A little background from me first. I used to be heavy conservative christian due to my upbringing. I've denounced all religion. However, I do have an interest in them.
I was attempting to nap when I reflected on biblical passages as a child and TRP truths. TRP is ultimately natural law applied to the modern world and I believe religion was an attempt to explain natural law to the simple-minded of the time. I could not recollect what the bible had to say about women in hell. Do they suffer because they give into their emotions and sin so well? Are they given a pass? I did a quick google search and found a passage of Islam that I found interesting:
It was narrated from ‘Imran ibn Husayn that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I looked into Paradise and I saw that the majority of its people were the poor. And I looked into Hell and I saw that the majority of its people are women.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 3241; Muslim, 2737)
Well I'll be damned. It would certainly seem that way seeing how woman are deceptive and manipulative in nature. Without missing a beat, another passage re-iterates this idea:
It was said, “Are they ungrateful to Allah?” He said, “They are ungrateful to their companions (husbands) and ungrateful for good treatment. If you are kind to one of them for a lifetime then she sees one (undesirable) thing in you, she will say, ‘I have never had anything good from you.’” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 1052)
I found it surprising how Red Pill that previous excerpt was. I know the christian Bible has RP excerpts, but none that I could recall about women in hell.
Thought I'd share. (Note: can we add an "Off-topic" flair? Would may be more appropriate.)

MyLittleAtomBomb 10y ago
Human nature. Human nature never changes.
onepill_twopill 10y ago
And that's just from the one book. I recall that somewhere in the new testament, one of the disciples advises people to become priests, since it is much easier than marriage
Gawernator 10y ago
Talk about old school wisdom.
a_chill_bro 10y ago
A.K.A., The Hamster. Couldn't stop laughing at this one.
Specter242 10y ago
Ever wonder why Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines, cuz he was looking for that unicorn but never found her xD
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antihostile 10y ago
Adam and Eve.
Samson and Delilah.
Lot and Lot's Wife.
"She eats and wipes her mouth and says, ‘I’ve done nothing wrong.’"
Just saying...
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[deleted] 10y ago
Job's wife (and family) who deserted him, when the shite hit the fan.
maestro_g 10y ago
So we've gathered that at least in Christianity and Islam, women are a bearer of evil. Now not to jump on the bandwagon but... That's pretty Red Pill since the days on Christ, therefore Christianity and Islam are Rep Pill religions ;)
Ninja_Wizard_69 10y ago
The Greeks had Pandora and her box that she opened, unleashing misery upon the world
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Even though I'm non-religious, I will admit that you can learn so much about women and human nature from reading the Bible.
Troll_Name 10y ago
Any kind of ancient book is going to be half idealism and half repeatedly-rewritten history. Assuming there to still be at least a drop of truth left in the history, we should believe that plenty of it will recognize women for what they are.
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I took a Bible studies course in college, an academic course not a Sunday school type thing. Coming from a very Catholic family it was interesting to see the text interpreted largely as an attempt to instill values that would lead to a productive society in a time when might was very truly right. When you start thinking of things like Kosher as primitive health code or banning homosexuality as a way to keep your population up when you need to not get blitzkrieged by the Egyptians and Assyrians it all actually starts to make a lot of sense why leaders would be all about making sure people believed this and took it as seriously as possible.
El_Serpiente_Roja 10y ago
Yes definitely, studying the historical context and truly thinking those terms helps to paint the entire institution in a totally different light
MorpheusGodOfDreams 10y ago
you forgot the most important one:
while I was still searching but not finding-- I found one upright man among a thousand, but not one upright woman among them all. Ecclesiastes 7:28
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I prefer the King James Version:
"Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found."
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Borsao66 10y ago
I love the book of Ecclesiasties and never caught that one. Good find!
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If you like Ecclesiastes you might enjoy the Daodejing too. It's fascinating how so many traditions spawn from divergent premises and end up reaching a lot of the same conclusions regarding fundamental aspects of the universe, human nature, and the interactions between the two.
Borsao66 10y ago
Another excellent read. I spent 15 years in my 20s and 30s studying Buddhism and Zen.
FLFTW16 10y ago
Better to live in a cold, dark, dingy corner. A man cave. They are alluding to a man cave.
vengefully_yours 10y ago
Fuck a man cave. It's my house, I own it, I built it, she isn't in control of it. However I prefer to spend my time in the shop, girl in my house or not. Girls say they like the shop, but work happens there, so they're loathe to persist in it.
FLFTW16 10y ago
I agree. A guy that has to set up a mancave is retreating from his quarrelsome wife. He gets a "corner of the housetop" rather than his whole house being his castle where he reigns king.
vengefully_yours 10y ago
That's why I will never allow a woman to live with me again, she can get her own damn house.
doublereignbeau 10y ago
Whore. Whore never changes.
PliskinRed 10y ago
Whore has changed. It's no longer about getting dick, and having fun. It's an endless series of validation, fought by whores in social media. Whores and their consumption of social validation, has become a well-oiled machine.
Whore has changed. ID tagged whores use ID tagged apps to check into ID tagged locations. Hamsters inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Sex control. Validation control. Beta bucks control. World control.
Everything is photographed, and 'liked'.
Whore has changed. The age of information has become the age of control. All in the name of equality against cis privileged men. And he who controls the pussy, controls history.
Whore has changed. When the battlefield is under total control, men... become beta.
ThereAndBlackAgain 10y ago
Whore hasn't changed, we just took the safety off
vengefully_yours 10y ago
And the state encourages whoring
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[deleted] 10y ago
As a former christian who is VERY salty about that religion,never in my life would i see myself upvoting a post filled with verses of their book after breaking free...
Snivellious 10y ago
Proverbs and Leviticus are full of useful things, just as long as you don't slip up and get involved with any of the religious stuff. Lots of it is outdated, but it was at least a pretty good guide for avoiding herpes and dysentery.
vengefully_yours 10y ago
A more glowing report on the bible had nary been conceived nor penned!
To paraphrase: Is a good way to avoid herpes and dysentery, leave the rest.
Snivellious 10y ago
I may be a touch cynical, I confess.
Still, I really don't want herpes, so while my praise may be faint it is not hollow.
vengefully_yours 10y ago
I'm exceedingly cynical, and I also do not wish to contact herpes.
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RedBigMan 10y ago
Well many of those rules did make sense in the time period they came from. Pork requires adequate refrigeration which was not readily available in biblical times.
I found it interesting when watching some Doomsday Preppers show... This guy was preparing for the end of the world and was Jewish and he basically noted that the jewish religion says in an end of the world/emergency scenario if the choice is to break these laws or die of starvation you'd be allowed to break them. They were raising I think rabbits (which are not Kosher) as potential food in a disaster scenario.
this_guy2001 10y ago
I had a Muslim co-worker tell me the same thing about them being able to eat pork if there is nothing around to eat but pork.
this_guy2001 10y ago
Don't eat chicken, no risk of getting salmonella.
hugeveinycock 10y ago
Don't eat pussy, no risk of syphilis
earthforce_1 10y ago
New testament gold:
1 Timothy 2:12 "I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet"
Good for shutting up bible thumping ladies.
this_guy2001 10y ago
They will hamster their way around it, just like most preachers have.
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Redasshole 10y ago
This is why I decided Christianity is a big fucking joke. I saw a pastor saying on TV the other day that : "there is a lot of rubbish in the bible!" (it was a talk about how women should be treated).
Same in r stoicism. Last time I checked they had this big annoucement which was something like
I mean come on. Those fuckers, both christian pastor and the people at r stoicism are so conditionned that they deny their own religion/philosophy and hamster it away. I mean how can one take this religion seriously after that?
OneRedYear 10y ago
take it serious by using it to control people. You don't have to believe in it, you just have to control those who do with a bit of lip service and not getting caught breaking the rules. The dark triad alpha atheist sits in the pulpit the beta atheist denounces the shame from outside the church
karpathian 10y ago
You just say it as if you're scolding a child and ignore them, turn away as if you were done with their shit.
this_guy2001 10y ago
I agree. I have changed my ways and see that, where I went wrong is to attempt rationalization. As we know, she was simply motivated by emotion, not logic. On the flip side, at the time, so was I.
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Its incredible how well religious people can rationlize the most terrible deeds in the bible as OK cuz GOD did it.
Job can get a new family, its OK to kill all his loved ones to prove a point to the devil.
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[deleted] 10y ago
Muh historical context, muh speaking to the audience at the time it was written. You can interpret most ancient religious texts as condoning fucking genocide if you take them literally enough, if theists can cherrypick their way out of that they can cherrypick their way out of women not being teachers.
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Yep, I can't take religion seriously anymore.
[deleted] 10y ago
Yeah. I still think it makes a lot of sense in the perspective I mentioned above. Nothing like promising a reward you'll never have to make good on to get people to follow your rules, but once you see it in the respect it is a hard notion to get past.
Seducibledotcom 10y ago
What's wrong with genocide?
Mintaka7 10y ago
It's not politically correct.
waldo888 10y ago
when your on the wrong side.
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The whole killing thousands of innocent people because they fit the wrong label thing.
Seducibledotcom 10y ago
It's not that black and white but nice try.
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What do you think is an instance of a justified genocide?
Seducibledotcom 10y ago
Any genocide of human animals that makes the human species as well as the planet better is not only justified but objectively good.
vengefully_yours 10y ago
Sure but in the bible it's encouraged. As is slavery. Yay for bronze age texts!
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Yeah that is what I said just a few posts above this.
vengefully_yours 10y ago
How does one decide which parts to follow? Oh wait do we all have our own moral compass that isn't created by religion?
Nah, can't possibly be that.
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Again that is like pretty much exactly what I was saying above. I'm not sure what your point is.
MattyAnon Admin 10y ago
Let's hope misandry is a bubble that will pop soon
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It's part of a cycle. I wouldn't be surprised if it goes significantly further before swinging back, but it will swing back. It's just that these cycles occur on timescales bigger than 1 lifetime, so settle in for the ride, stop trying to change the world, and position yourself for success.
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Kathulos 10y ago
I think it is starting to swell up not sure if it's going to pop anytime soon; although that 2020 futurist prediction does look a little more accurate every day. At work the other day my coworker was debating other coworkers about how shitty a deal child support is for men a how it shouldn't have to be paid. Just the way he talks about his girlfriend lets me know the rest of him is blue.
A buddy from the local pub is paying child support on a kid that isn't his(he has a DNA test). Lots of people are talking about that situation as he is being quite vocal and trying to smear the deceptive bitch by making her court approved extortion public.
It's just anecdotal evidence but I think that more people are starting to realize what a raw deal men get when involved with the family court system.
thefisherman1961 10y ago
Discussing politics at work is a horrible, horrible idea.
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Only if it's discussed seriously. I'm joking about why child labor is important, and why we should send immigrants to antarctica.
Kathulos 10y ago
Yeah I'm aware. I debate all the liberal fucktards at work anyway. Why? Bc it is a dead end bouncing job and in a few months I should be on the other side of the country.
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out of curiosity, what is the story there?
Kathulos 10y ago
Black guy got fat white girl pregnant. Its a black baby so he thinks its his. They live together for almost 2 years. He finds out about other guy. Gets DNA test. Kid isn't his. His name is on birth certificate bc for quite some time he thought he was the father. They break up. He is paying child support and the bitch refuses to take his name off the birth certificate and ruin her income stream. He goes to the bar and drinks about it. That's about all I know.
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Haha American court system rewarding this shit.
MattyAnon Admin 10y ago
This should never, ever happen unless the man has formally agreed (in writing) to adopt the child.
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There should be a clause when you claim paternity that excludes you from child support if the child is later proven to not be yours biologically. It should be the default, and if a guy knowingly wants to be cucked then he can waive that aspect of it and claim full responsibility.
MattyAnon Admin 10y ago
It's mental that a man should claim paternity - it's the woman who should name the father if you think about it...
Kathulos 10y ago
She won't take his name off the birth certificate and they have been together for quite some time he thought the kid was his. I think the kid is almost 2.
That is my understanding of the situation. I'm sure he intends to fight it in court but in the meantime he is stuck writing a check to the bitch.
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oh, well wtf, don't put your name on a birth certificate stupid
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HappyScribe 10y ago
Something for you to read:
http://imgur.com/gallery/GbaTmKX
MattyAnon Admin 10y ago
Yeah, this sucks that women are legally allowed to dishonestly cuckold men, even to the point of claiming child support after the guy finds out it's not his.
As I said - no adoption, no child support should be the law.
And women lying should have to repay the money deceptively gotten from the father.
But in this blue pill world - men have to pay for women and children, regardless of whose they are.
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RedBigMan 10y ago
This is what being the 'assumed father' bullshit is. In absence of a DNA test if you act in the role of daddy you get stuck with the role of daddy. This is why red pill men should always DNA test their suspected offspring. AWALT and you're god damn unicorn princess could have gotten dicked by Chad unless you have her locked away in the highest room in the tallest tower of your castle guarded by a fire breathing dragon.
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wish I could marry that TV next time I go to walmart
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FLFTW16 10y ago
I wouldn't put up with that. There are a number of things a man can do to fight back.
Follow her around protesting her. Protest her workplace. Protest her parents. Protest in front of the courthouse and invite the press. Tell them the disgusting details and even make up some. They will love to print a nasty creampie cuckold love tryst fueld by coke and booze. The story will embarrass her to her friends and family. Roll around with the pig in the mud and enjoy it.
Refuse to pay. Make a demonstration of ripping up the check and lighting the pieces on fire. Have people recording it. Make up signs. Pay actors to protest with you if you have to.
Leave the state. Leave the country. Hide out in Hong Kong or Thailand or Vietnam or any fucking place. Take your precious pieces of fiat paper with you. Spend them on asian hookers and beer. ANYTHING other than spreading your buttcheeks for the state to give you a deep financial dicking for a woman that lied.
Or go full commando and scare the fuck out of her. Intimidate her. Slash her tires. Spray paint her car. Put all of your assets into a bitcoin brainwallet so the state can not simply seize them without torturing you first.
If a man just rolls over and allows himself to be raped then the situation gets worse and worse. I think the woman smelled a bitch and figured this guy will never flip out. He'll take it. Don't be that guy or at the very least make like you will flip out to make people think twice about fucking over you.
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I never use social media. Giant waste of time, but I might try to shame her out of it. She values her reputation more than almost anything. I say make a video of you showing and explaining the DNA test and explaining that she is still making you pay child support. Send her the video first and tell her you'll post it and send it to her mom, siblings, and friends if she does not cease the support payments. She'll most likely stop it before you do unless she literally can't make rent without the payments. Even then she might find working an extra job preferable to that level of embarrassment. You really don't want to have to go public though. Regardless of how well you do it, it's going to get you involved in a shitstorm that will affect your reputation as well.
The rest of your ideas are really just self-destructive.
Lose your job and likely a huge percentage of your income and way more than you were paying for child support just so you're not "lying down."
Good way to get sent to jail.
PlanB_pedofile 10y ago
Just the act of not paying will land him in jail and labeled a dead beat. The media and society is pined to turn men into financial backers of single cc riding moms.
Dude's best bet is to learn spansih and go down to mexico
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While some of this is illegal which hurts his chances, I do think there is a lot of legal recourse for the guy.
For example, protesting, paying employers not to hire her, paying other guys not to date her, paying her friends to act trashy to her, making sure everyone on her facebook and family and friends know, paying people to follow her everywhere she goes to heckle her and tell everyone about her, etc. make her life a living hell.
I've often wondered about starting a company that legally ruins a person's life, for a price of course. Things like rape accusations, pizza deliveries, sliced tires, employers not hiring you, anonymous webpages and blog posts destroying your online reputation, etc.
Polaris382 10y ago
For some reason even that would probably backfire. Watch harassment or libel charges (even though its legally not libel if its true) be pressed, and some white knight/liberal/feminist judge rules in favor of the poor damsel in distress.
Eyezin 10y ago
Money solves all the world's problems it seems
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not really. purchasing power is a better metric than money. If everyone in the world had an extra million dollars of money, believe it or not, their purchasing power would mostly remain the same due to instantaneous inflation. Not everyone in the world can have high purchasing power even if they could all have money.
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burbor290 10y ago
Read this many times growing up and going to Sunday school.
Surprisingly first time I heard it was at a lecture for Muslim women on how to be better wives. The very first topic was being grateful and keeping a journal.
It's commonly frowned upon for women to be ungrateful in the Muslim communities. However, recently there have been "progressives" and "feminist Muslims" that have tried to challenge this. Good news is there's more female Muslim women that ignore feminism.
rpslim 10y ago
This is absolutely correct, at least as far as I'm concerned. Feminism is slowly but surely crawling its way through the country but fortunately a lot of muslim women are opposed to it. "Feminism" however is a loose term in this case. Female right activists receive support from both men and women, but these actually push for reasonable goals (within the boundaries of Islam that is) like educating women and ensuring they get their share of the inheritance, and also fighting against the discrimination against women who wear the hijab. The reason why men encourage this is because their sisters and cousins get screwed over if they end up marrying someone of doesn't take care of them as he should. More on this below.
People who think that Islam is sexist because wives must be submissive to their husbands tend to forget a couple of important concepts :
Mothers are given a lot of power in comparison to fathers, there are plenty of verses and sayings to support this. It can really mess with your head if your mother is a narcissist.
Women who are obedient to their husbands are said to automatically go to heaven, no questions asked.
A woman is entitled to her share of the inheritance regardless of whether or not she works (has a source of revenue), and that share is hers to spend as she pleases. Note however that that share is smaller than that of a man, that's because a man will generally have more mouths to feed. This is actually one of the things feminists tried to abolish, they wanted women to inherit the same amount of money as their brothers even if they have husbands that provide for them. Not sure how that turned out, it was too cancerous for me to follow.
A mother's role is difficult indeed (pregnancy and whatnot), but it gets easier with time. Once the children have grown, she will have a lot of free time and her (by then capable) boys are added to the pool of "men who take care of her". Refer to point #1 for why this favors women over men.
In fact, I know many stay at home moms who, once the kids are grown up, take up a feminine hobby like cooking, sewing, teaching, etc. and make a small business out of it. This is one of the main differences between marrying a woman who remained chaste and marrying a woman who rode the cock carousel throughout her youth. CC wives, when bored, will reminisce about old times and will be tempted to cheat. Wives who never rode the CC don't know what they're missing, so after they tend to focus on productive activities that help them and their community.
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haha, feminist muslims can be kicked out.
awalt_cupcake 10y ago
Makes me wonder why women had "diaries" to begin with.
_nrm 10y ago
Probably to remind them for all the dumb shit they've done.
RedBigMan 10y ago
Probably to keep their lies consistent.
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cashan0va_007 10y ago
I would join the RP Christian Crusade in an instant. My favorite movie is Kingdom of Heaven with Liam Neeson and Orlando Bloom, great movie about the crusades if you haven't seen it. Fuck the degenerates. I've been fighting for valor, honor, fairness, and the "right way" my whole life.
slerpaderp 10y ago
Conservative religious communities still exist, and though I'm agnostic (with a spiritual leaning) I have to say after interacting with a local chabad community that they are not as wacko as mainstream society seems to think. Really, they are just living by RP ideals, and they are normal people like anyone else. Sure, there's some other traditions to it, but every day living in the devolved western society makes those religious communities seem more appealing. They're not amish, they just value traditional gender roles and place importance on honor, truth, love, and strength of communal ties.
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waldo888 10y ago
don't need religion to have a good society or be a good successful person. Look RP figured it out, many men figure it out through their lives and most people learn and want to be better naturally. Talking about crusades and genocide kills the naturally good people and leaves the base primitive animals who need devine authority to make good decisions in their lives.
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J_AsapGem 10y ago
Did you guys knew that the bible prove the first sin was adultery? eve had sex with the serpent ( he wasn't a serpent before ofcourse ) but that's how we got the reptillian side in our brains that science is talking about. Makes sense if you think about it.
waldo888 10y ago
original sin is disobeying god, or learning that you could disobey god if you CHOSE to do so.
red_gerb 10y ago
god set the whole thing up. If they disobeyed, they passed the test. too bad he kicked both of them out of the garden. Poor Beta adam took the fall for Eve. He should have asked for another bitch. "this one is defective, god". I suppose it's hard to have abundance mentality when she's the only snatch on the globe.
J_AsapGem 10y ago
true, but the act was adultery.
waldo888 10y ago
I don't know, I think is was sex for pleasure instead of reproduction. The hind brain tempted them to seek pleasure instead of purpose.
Thotwrecker 10y ago
The reality is that people - men and women - are equally shitty. Women ping off of male leadership and are as good as they have to be. Women being shitty today is a product of lazy beta male degeneration and pussification from the 70s to today. Men built and controlled society; that we have handed it over to such a degree of female influence is our weakness, not theirs.
It's interesting that the quote also puts the poor in heaven. This is called beta male wish fulfillment - most people are poor and having a shitty go of things in life, and they rationalize that it MUST be that they are destined to have bliss & riches in the afterlife. It's hamstering, it's like how broke people invent these intricate narratives about how the "evil rich people are holding them back" and they'd be millionaires if it wasn't for "the 1%ers".
Islam can be pretty RP at some points (hell, chunks of the Qu'ran are basically directives on how to manage your women and reward / punish good and bad behavior from them). But I wouldn't say this idea is one of the RP ones; this is the same intellectual frequency as guys who come on here embittered and blaming women for everything.
Overkillengine 10y ago
I would posit that male thirst has been weaponized by our own gender in order to enslave the bottom majority of men via convincing them to self sacrifice to the point of lunacy.
Women in the short term benefited from it, so being human, they went along with it. Long term thinking is hard and humans are lazy.
And so here we are.
darksoldierk 10y ago
I think this is where the whole anger phase comes in. Men tried to be fair to women, women took advantage, men now realize that in retrospect, they shouldn't have tried to be fair
TheRedThrowAwayPill 10y ago
I think you're a bit mistaken. In Islam "the struggles of the downtrodden are heard the loudest." It's not surprising there are more people struggling among the poor. As for the rich, their success actually opens up a new set of problems that make them susceptible to different types of negative behaviors (ie; first class problems).
So the math of it is the rich have a terrible burden they have to be wary of; while it goes to follow the poor will more readily accept their fate in life. (Remember these are agricultural societies where not many tech start ups were appearing in their valleys).
But that doesn't mean you're not supposed to try and be successful. Or avoid money or wealth. It doesn't want you motivated and driven only by greed at the expense of society as whole is all that is being warned about when it comes to wealth gathering.
aazav 10y ago
Nope.
As I just mentioned…
They don't have power, so they resort to lies, manipulation and deception to get their way. This means that women lie not as a habit, but as a rule in the interest of getting things their own way.
RedBigMan 10y ago
There is a difference between being poor because you can't make any money and being poor because you choose to work less because you need less to survive.
It's basically the difference between MGTOW and TRP MGOTW. The latter could be slaying pussy and whatever but they don't need pussy to survive which is fine. More pussy for Chad.
nomorelulu 10y ago
Yup. We (males) ultimately did this to ourselves. We failed the ultimate shit-test (feminism, women's rights movements, etc.), and now we're stuck with this hyper-feminized world that seems to be controlled more by women than men.
bluedrygrass 10y ago
No, that's just your ignorance on the subject, or basing your reasoning on second hand parts picked around randomly.
Being poor is not a virtue in itself, in the bible. Jesus hanged around indifferently with rich people or poor ones. That's one of the thing people found scandalous about him, that he went to eat with rich people.
To be poor is simply an help in being more rich in virtues, that's it. If you think about it, it totally makes sense. Think of top level brokers, managers, ceos of international companies. To reach that level you must lie, steal, push down others, corrupt, lie, steal, don't care about anything else, put others down, lie and steal.
Any fortune 100 person is basically a psychopath (let's not be naive, we all known that). Sure there are very rich people that repsect other's lifes, and don't try to fuck other people up for their own well, but they're rare.
While poor people, while often being shitheads too, are generally more inclined to be less harmful to others, if nothing else due to circumstances.
That's it. To be rich is a good thing, it's not a bad thing at all. To be rich based on treachery and hurting other people, is not.
But people conveniently ignore that aspect even when they know well about it, because it's a weapon to be used against Christians: "oh you're a Christian? Then give everything to me, you have to".
While that's only a distortion of the original message, like 90% of the common things said against Christians.
Jesus sometimes suggested to give everything to the poors and remain with nothing, but that was in the specific cases it would have helped one's spiritually. In most cases, just giving everything away does nothing to one's spirituality, he remains the same jackass he was before, just that now he's poor, too.
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Redasshole 10y ago
Men and women are not shitty. They have a shitty nature. Then, they follow their nature. But it's not being shitty to follow one's nature.
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juliusstreicher 10y ago
Wrong. A simple look at Bill Gates gives the lie to your proposition. The world economy grew stronger at the same time that he did. You want wealth equality/redistribution.
Also, classical economics is not equipped to handle anything; saying what you said is saying that the sun is not equipped to regulate weather.
waldo888 10y ago
I think it more means that the poor find other ways of being fulfilled without needing material possessions or power. The bible is always talking about the weakness of the flesh. Religion IS about spirit being more valuable than substance.
PlanB_pedofile 10y ago
Theres been a lot of observations that death is eternal and both the master and the slave will end up in the dirt at the end.
Solomon had the grandest of temple covered in gold, time has taken it away. Kings with over 70 sons all killed and his family line extinguished. Palaces fall, wealth gets squandered by the children, everything is finite but the lord is eternal.
Sure the king had a good and rich life but in death he becomes bones. The servant toils and works jard and in death he becomes bones.
onepill_twopill 10y ago
This is true for modern day people, but pre-1800s and even 1900's it was actually this hard for people. You, a peasant farmer (80% of the pre-industrial population) must work every day for food. Dawn till dusk. This means no time for self improvement, no time for investing money in anything, just farmwork. For most people it was legitimate grievances in the old days
Thotwrecker 10y ago
That is true. I think it's also a big part of why caste system societies (Hinduism, for example) tend to have more polarized "afterlife" narratives. Grin and bear it, lose attachment to material possessions, and in the next go you'll be a king. Meanwhile the dude who won't touch you will be a cockroach.
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awalt_cupcake 10y ago
Exactly why I am ex-Christian. This mindset kept my family, myself, and many good friends back in life because of this internalization. It's like the Nice Guy Syndrome. "Maybe, if I try harder, things will get better" = "If I just stick it through these hard times, I will be rewarded in the afterlife."
PlanB_pedofile 10y ago
Well back then unless you were born into it, the good life was impossible to achieve. If born a slave you died a slave.
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Kathulos 10y ago
We would be better off except for the .001%ers. Fractional reserve banking system and enforcement of the petro dollar don't benefit the vast majority of Americans and actually are pretty detrimental to the financial well being of just about everybody.
They only help our chosen representatives and their chosen friends. If you catch my drift.
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TheYellowPill 10y ago
Wow, I'm seriously glad and surprised someone in TRP knows about fractional reserve banking. I would argue that as eye-opening as TRP is the rabbit hole goes even further.
Many people don't understand the true evils of fractional reserve banking. This welfare / warfare corrupt system would not be in place without it. In addition, natural law = free markets. The sexual market is tainted by transfers of wealth from big daddy gov't making the BB attributes significantly less valuable. Therefore, making AF attributes significantly more valued.
fingerthemoon 10y ago
Don't forget fiat currency and the Federal Reserve.
Money_Bags97 10y ago
Lol at age 16 (18 now) I was really into economics and had researched all about fractional reserve banking, petro dollar system, hyperinflation, gold standards, etc.
When I found out how our monetary system in the US actually works I was shocked and to be honest a little scared. At any point it could come to a stop and just collapse completely, while the 0.001% skim their profits off the top.
thefisherman1961 10y ago
Fractional reserve banking is the largest cancer that exists in our economy. So many of our financial problems would be solved by legalizing Free Banking and competition in currency.
AUAUA 10y ago
Check out bitcoin, the redpill of money
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Nothing dries up puss faster than that topic. Not even the most desperate, thirsty beta action. Which is too bad because it is destroying our society. Ben Bernanke/Janet Yellen public enemy #1
Polaris382 10y ago
Bernake? No, he's just a face/puppet, and isnt really shit in the grand scheme of things (Rothschilds, Morgans, Windsors, etc)
thefisherman1961 10y ago
Fractional Reserve Banking is something that most people have no clue how it even works, take it for granted, and don't realize that it's probably the biggest threat to the stability of our economy. Most of the time I'd agree with you but some chicks who are into politics (rare) get turned on by a guy who understands stuff like that and can blow their mind while simultaneously holding an extremely controversial opinion on the topic.
It's the intelligent bad boy persona, you just have to not sound like a nerd when you're talking about it. If you're beta then they will dry up no matter what.
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If I'm ever at a bar in Hyde Park, I'll be sure to try my luck with this topic of conversation.
thefisherman1961 10y ago
Don't be daft, you know I didn't mean that it's a good topic when you're trying to pick up. I meant if you're having a conversation with a plate/gf/some other chick you don't care if you fuck
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Whatevs dude, next time I'm out, I'm going for it. I'll let you know how it goes.
AUAUA 10y ago
Bring up bitcoin too! Bitcoin is the long term solution to fractional reserve banking and it dries up pussies so fast. Of course, ten years from now, they will want some, but they will have to get it from a nerdy beta male lol.
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Roshambo_USMC 10y ago
Ezekiel 23:20 "She lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose semen was like that of horses."
Classic Chad
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I agree about the off topic flair, like theres a symbol for it at top even.
I htink the best example is how eve lead adam to sin then tries to avoid taking responsibility. Right at the beggining and most people know it.
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bluedrygrass 10y ago
Another feminist bullshit. Without the semen of life, women are as fertile as rocks. Women don't create no life, they feed the life that is created by the fusion of the sperm and the egg.
No sperm = no life, amazing how 95% of well educated people don't seem to be able to grasp that basic concept.
Redasshole 10y ago
MGTOW is great actually. You bang a chick every once in a while, you never hear from her again, you don't get bothered by any woman and you spend your time doing what you love with your buddies.
rrealnigga 10y ago
You sound like a poopy head
Sir_Distic 10y ago
It's not the power of procreation that they are corrupted by. But by the power we men give the pussy. We'll lie, cheat, steal, buy them things, fight, even kill for pussy. And they know this. And they know we want it so bad we're easy to manipulate. That's what they do. They use pussy, or the promise there of, to manipulate men into doing what they want.
But Red Pill men see past that and are awake enough to not allow themselves to be reduced so easily.
dr_warlock 10y ago
Tl;dr women only do what men allow them to do.
Women are designed to manipulate and men are pre-disposed to allow it. This is weaponized with intentional indoctrination, censorship, shaming and betatization on a systemic level.
waldo888 10y ago
the power of the pussy is the power of procreation. No matter what they have the power of the species. They do not need to do anything else.
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this is also why women hate prostitution. it lowers the cost of pussy, so takes power away from women.
PlanB_pedofile 10y ago
Instead of spending $300 on a game station and use the money to get their dicks wet, there would be less blue pill men.
Women crave money and attention. Prostitutes get this for a shelf price.
Instead of Tindr that provided a CC for the average woman but only benefits the top 10% of men, imagine a Tindr app of prostitutes where you can bid and offer.
Only the top 10% can get pussy from an online profile alone, but any man can put down $500 and score a decent woman for a night.
Oh no.... all those beta bucks are now purchasing sex and the common woman will lose her orbiter and pussy power to a prostitute.
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Yes, that's how cartels work.
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TheRedThrowAwayPill 10y ago
Allaahhuuuuaaakkkkbaaar....errr..I mean, hey, wait a minute ...
pag_el 10y ago
I get what you're saying but you're way off. TRP is about recognizing the difference between the sexes and their behavior, using the knowledge to our advantage. TRP also cherishes woman nature rather than bash it like feminists do.
Islam on the other hand might seem red pill, but in reality it's about establishing masculine power (which isn't too bad), and degrading women to get there, which TRP doesn't do at all. We simply use the biological differences to our advantage (being alpha, stoic, it makes women want to listen); Islam forces women to behave (and will rape and kill you if you dont).
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DforDeadpool 10y ago
As a Muslim, yes it's true there are hadiths like this. Also Quran states that men and women are different, and a man is allowed to take up to 4 wives.
"..So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. .." (Surah An-Nisa 34)
anibustr 10y ago
Hey muslim here. I was going to bring up this topic but since you did... There's even more.
Quran knows women are hypergamic, how a woman is naturally wired to look up to her man. Teaches men not to be needy and maintain control over their women and marriages.
Quran knows men are polygamic, allows you to marry up to four women (with the condition of treating them equally and romantically loving only one of them).
Also 2 women witness = 1 man witness. Because: 1) To take away women's burden 2) Lie and gossip are common among women. There are more but can't really remember right now. Basically it tells society to give men more responsibilities and more rewards while protecting women.
Also marriage favors women in Islam.
fdsdfs89 10y ago
As a Christian, I was always confused and offended by how women would try to change the meaning of things in the Bible that told them that they where to submit to their husbands, but the men always had deep discussion on how they were to act as men and took it seriously. Now that I have a better understanding it is clear what is going on, but I still get annoyed with Christian women who deliberately ignore it. But I can also identify the precious few women that do listen. They and their husbands are happy, and it's almost always older couples, showing me the sad decline in quality women. I know I'm the odd one out being a married Christian man in redpill, but I figure it adds value to the discussion.
cashan0va_007 10y ago
Single RP'er and Christian man here. My cost of admission was one engagement and ring lost to a beautiful but ignorant woman, who now is a call-girl to my knowledge. She abandoned all education and hope of a better life without me, and now her path is that of sin, the only thing she knows best.
FirstnameLastnamePKA 10y ago
I remember my mother would read the bible to me when I was young and her telling me that it was a mans job to be the head of the household and the woman to do womanly things. She was more redpill than my dad is.
this_guy2001 10y ago
Absolutely. These preachers take creative liberties with what the Bible says to please everyone. My ex was a "big time Christian" but would blow me off anytime I quoted the bible when she would go against the teachings. She would completely ignore me.
fdsdfs89 10y ago
The funny thing is, none of the preachers that I gave any amount of time to took liberties from the bible. If any pastor I go to deviates from the word, I'll walk out. What I observed is a direct result of feminism. Feminism that encourages women to disrespect their husbands. Feminism that has no place in any church I will go to.
J_AsapGem 10y ago
yea same here bro, don't want to sound too religious for the other RP men, but the bible talk about this happen people going to turn away from the truth, so that's why a lot of people seeing christianity as wrong, a lot of ridiculous pastors too, using christianity to make millions
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It's no wonder that women in modern culture are much less happy than ever historically speaking, and men are much more happy. as feminism ramps up more, I think women are going to realize that working isn't all it's cracked up to be. When are women going to start paying for dates and start approaching guys in bars, thats what I want to know. haha.
skoobled 10y ago
That will never happen. Also, have a great time waiting for a woman to admit that she made any bad choice that she can't turn back from.
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Haha, I don't think that's going to help her.
TheRedThrowAwayPill 10y ago
Resident Ayrab Muslim here:
I'll admit that when a women in Islam goes out of here way to avoid the lion share of sexual and social issues that afflict women in our society today ... it makes her worth and your time with her as your wife a lot easier and lot more rewarding. Don't get me wrong, there are still pitfalls within a marriage but at least you have someone that is marriage material in the first place. Otherwise if the bulk of women are whoring it up and I had to choose from among them ... life would be worth less.
If TRP's Axiom is "Don't Get Married" and thus all other aspects take this into consideration; then Islam's (in which marriage is 1/2 the religion) Axiom is "Make Marriage Work" and everything else is predicated on affecting culture to meet this end.
It's why I have been fascinated by TRP since finding this sub: everything we discuss here about broken women, red flags and which women are wife/gf material; along with all those pua, rapport, game suggestions; are uncannily similar to all minutiae of the rules and suggestions in Islam of what not to do in the realm of sexual relations in society (ie, the SMP).
That is to say do you want to know how Islam wants society to lean towards all that produces healthy marriages? Easy : ask TRP what would be the societal conditions under which a man could safely get married? Most of you have seen what this looks like, probably in your (great)grandparents' generation.
Islam is centered around marriage. Then it is no surprise it aims to diminish the negative behaviors of both genders (like gossip & back talk for women from OP's example) and promote positive outcomes that benefit family structure in society (ie, 0 n-counts; no other sexual relations; avoid her spending lots of time with unrelated marriageable men; defer to the husband on family matters at the end of the day; etc).
I don't know, TRP, sometimes I think you guys are going to take over the world and it'll happen because you'll be the only group of men out there who can deal with woman; but it'll be too late because Western society would have turned into a hollow pit by then and there will literally be no women that are worth marriage anymore.
Enjoy the decline?
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waldo888 10y ago
red pill men raising redpill children who make alliances with other redpill men and women will drastically change the world.
PlanB_pedofile 10y ago
Hard to do when redpill men rather not breed or if they do have kids, are kept away from and become financial provider only.
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Roshambo_USMC 10y ago
Confirmation bias is likely what you're after. It's generally when you count the hits and dismiss the misses, usually without really knowing it. Someone will count a result/study/news story, and dismiss all the ones that are contradictory to it.
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thebigred13 10y ago
Islam is a joke. Bunch of beta pussies.
TheRedThrowAwayPill 10y ago
Hmm, I would think they cover the full spectrum of characters enough to not be able to bucket them like that.
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Redasshole 10y ago
Go tell that to feminism who made harem possible once again..
TheRedThrowAwayPill 10y ago
Only about ~5% could pull of multiple wives. Too much is asked in resources to pull it off.
By and large (~95% of society) is still only 1 wife ... or 0.
(HINT: zero wife = chaos)
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TheRedThrowAwayPill 10y ago
Damn dude that's a lot of unrealistic multiples. (Could pull off doesn't mean they all have 10 wives.)
Think of it the other way around : some bottom feeder guy is just not gonna get a wife at all. Now there's an additional women on the market. She just gonna stay there? No. She's gonna get married to someone, anyone that can provide. Eventually she does. That dude is still going nowhere, maybe homeless now.
So let's say there is an economic malaise. Now you have a flood of women available and nowhere near enough men to even marry them. This is the critical mass numbers you should be worrying about. This is where angry young men will tear down their own walls ... or better yet, invade the neighbors.
Now let's say there is an economic boom. Every girl that hits the market can be snapped up. Yet those top few % of men will try to get a 2nd. But everything's not falling apart. Why not? Because the market can bear a few % of men not getting anything (they're that guy in the first example. He was gonna be loser regardless).
cmkinusn 10y ago
Polygamy is a game of the rich to take from the poor, in this case to monopolize the good genes (women) in a society.
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earthforce_1 10y ago
Back then they were known simply as "slaves".
endogenic 10y ago
How do you explain natural law to a well trained student of ancient philosophy, modern science, or mathematics?
HAMMURABl 10y ago
From that perspective, an explanation is be found in the origin of species from darwin or some works from galton. Happy reading.
Lesninore 10y ago
Hell is separation from God, women are not as philosophical as men, and all philosophy, imo, aims to reunite creation with creator, women largely worship creation but they do not worship the creator. Hence why you need proven merit to woo women -- remember -- women are twice removed from God, whereas man is one step removed from God. God represents absolute truth, man, subjective truth, and woman, relative truth.
Relevant blog which touches on some of this http://no-maam.blogspot.ca/2012/05/empty-vessels-and-relative-truth.html
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Subjective and relative pretty much means the same. Centered upon one specific entity or another.
But i agree that the symbol of god represent objective truth.
I guess what are you trying to say is "man believes based on himself and what he knows" and woman "believes based on context and what she can benefits", but both are subjective and relative imo.
May be wrong tho. Oks, my aspie happy hour is over /s
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Lesninore 10y ago
Philosophy tends to break the illusions cast by the passions, the passions which place a emphasis on humanities base nature, rendering him no better than the simple beasts, which is why I say, that in the end of this road there is culmination that unites creation with creator. The creator being in eternity (where the spirit resides), while the passions being fervent only in the temporal (where the body resides). philosophy places value on that which is eternal (such as love) and shuns things which are temporal (such as lust). it seeks to break down the discord between body and soul in favor of the soul, the soul being where the heavenly father resides. The end of this road is uniting creation with creator; uniting father and son.
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Lesninore 10y ago
I don't think philosophy should be separated from spirituality anymore than you would separate rhythm or melody from a song. Philosophy points to spirituality because it see's that our bodies tend to deceive us, whereas the soul is perfectly consistent. They say that the beginning of wisdom calling things by their true names, but I would add that it is callings things by their true names in relation to their place in eternity, where the father who represents absolute truth, waits.
Society tends to emphasize vertical knowledge as opposed to horizontal knowledge which is probably why you would try to separate philosophy and spirituality, personally I don't think you can separate the two, they might be separate doors to the same chamber that holds the soul, but they are interconnected nonetheless. My belief is that this chamber has a not-so-subtle giant staircase which sits at the base of a throne, so any endeavor to retreat into this chamber will ultimately lead to the discovery of said throne (or at least a desire to find it).
waldo888 10y ago
philosophy doesn't necessarily accept that spirit is real. you cannot merge the two without bringing philosophy out of a rational objective science and into the realm of faith and bias. Having said that, can you have any philosophy without bias?
redestofthereds 10y ago
They're pretty insolent when it comes to women in authority. Watch this shit right here This video was posted in 2011. I wonder how the town of Shelbyville is doing right now.
arrayay 10y ago
For real? Because this exact passage has been brought up and discussed here on TRP a few times now. My cynical side says I should just keep a log and I could farm things out...
It's good topic for discussion, but you aren't adding to it...
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To be fair, women are entitled to a slight get out of jail free card due to having such compromised intellectual capabilities. Sure they know right from wrong as much as any child would, but they don't have any kind of true cognitive prowess that could facilitate a higher level of function and resourcefulness. They're dishonest and shady due in large part to being so daft. They have no other tools to fall back on in crafting the kind of lifestyles that men can effortlessly attain. If only you could get them to just sit there and smile pretty. They never seem to open their mouths for the right reason.
awalt_cupcake 10y ago
This is an interesting perspective. If women are like children, does a god view and treat them as children after death as well?
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That my friend is one for the theologians.
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Here, ladies and gentlemen, we see a bitter neckbeard who's so dedicated to believing in his own superiority that he discounts half of all people as intellectually lesser--merely due to the fact that they won't let him in their pants. Sounds like women are pretty smart to me.
/cue people accusing me of mocking and shaming while they treat an entire gender as less than human because "lolz women are stupid even though all objective research shows that's not true. fuck science man."
It's in human nature to be delusional and suspicious of those who are not like you. But seriously, tone it down a notch, bro.
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The stats kind of reflect it bud. They have more scholarships, quotas, ect. and they still don't outperform men. They have invented a minuscule amount of things in comparison with men, even today. Deep down you know that women are different than men. We are not equal.
One sex is the reproductive sex. There's nothing wrong with that.
Roshambo_USMC 10y ago
It is an objective fact that women, intelligence-wise, fall near the mean in intelligence tests (IQ). Men are a spread mostly filling both the top and the bottom. This is why men dominate all intellectual spaces (chess leagues/inventing/tech pioneering) but also why they fill the prisons.
Look at every historical or technical invention that has changed the country/world and you will find a man dreamt it up, tested it, manufactured it, and deployed it. This isn't to say that there aren't very smart women, there are (Marie Curie as an example). However, if you do a search of the top 50 inventors, philosophers, tech pioneers, you will find the vast majority, if not all, were men.
Also, you straw manned his argument. Do try to avoid logical fallacies as it makes you look ignorant.
Gawernator 10y ago
Nobody will take you seriously when you rely on logical fallacies and ad hominem attacks to try and make a point. Btw it's scientifically proven that men are at the top end of IQ distributions.
aazav 10y ago
They don't have power, so that's what they resort to get their way. This means that women lie not as a habit, but as a rule in the interest of getting things their own way.
Remerez 10y ago
Jesus fuckin christ. This is the worst hamstring I have seen on TRP in a long time. Are you fucks honestly trying to source religious text to validate yourself? There is no educational content on this post at all.
By this posts assumption that most women go to hell it is only logical to assume your mother is going to hell or is currently in hell.
Edit: a word
anti_erection_man 10y ago
I'm pretty sure people are not trying to validate themselves here. It's just interesting seeing how some TRP core ideas are so old school, that they come up in religions. Showing how women were portrayed pretty similarly even back then. A lot of people here are areligious.
Remerez 10y ago
Bringing religion to the red pill is a big issue. The Bible says you can't mix fabrics or eat bacon, or tear your clothes, or get remarried after a divorce or have premarital sex. The bible straight contradicts TRP; so are we honestly trying to cherry pick the bible to meet a personal narrative? Cause that's called seeking validation.
hugeveinycock 10y ago
Your mother's in hell and so are your balls.
Remerez 10y ago
Only partially correct. My balls are in your mom's mouth in hell.
hugeveinycock 10y ago
My balls are in your mom's mouth in Heaven while Jesus and John the baptizer play the harp
Remerez 10y ago
Mediocre. You're going to have to do a lot better than that, kid.
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Rp is not an ultimate lens to see reality or some quantum science. Stop sucking your own dicks. It's a praexism. There are still exceptions because humans have a dose of chaos and unpredictability.
RowdyRoddyPiper 10y ago
Souls may not be "gendered" as we would understand it.
eddiae 10y ago
i never understood why do we keep the word allah in our english translations instead of God, i thought allah was the name of the muslim god but it is the equivalent of the word God in arabic, christian arabs use it. its very confusing unless you research it.
PlanB_pedofile 10y ago
Yaweh is the name of God. But there are also many other named Gods. By naming God, God, it makes any other named God to be lesser or false. Especially when the religion preaches only one true God and that god goes by god
TheRedThrowAwayPill 10y ago
That's the difference; intent.
quixoticme1 10y ago
I am Arab Christian (Antiochian Orthodox) and trust me, we don't. A few might but we say God
darksoldierk 10y ago
Uhm, I believe that "god" translates to "Rab", with the "a" being pronounced quickly instead of the elongated "a" in the english language (such as the word "tall"). Allah is the name of the muslim god.
TheRedThrowAwayPill 10y ago
No. "Rab" means "Lord". As in "Rabbi" ("My Lord")
"Al-Lah" literally means "The God" (as a superlative for the one and only, etc) and is also used as the name (as a noun).
bluedrygrass 10y ago
Because it isn't the same God. Christians and Arabs intends different gods with that word, their religions are different and incompatible, so using the same word for both would only generate misunderstandings. Even if many people pretends it's the same thing. But then, for a feminist using "rapist" and "men" is the same thing, and probably some one somewhere proposed to use the term "rapist" to define all men. But for you, is it the same thing? Would you like it?
eddiae 10y ago
irrelevant, we do not change the meaning of a word to suit our apish desires, or what we 'feel' is right
awalt_cupcake 10y ago
Well, it's like the Hebrews use Yahweh instead of "God". Many prefer the name given in the language scripture was believed to originate from to give it a sense of purity. Others firmly believe they are all different.
eddiae 10y ago
Well this is exactly the misconception that im talking about, yahweh is the NAME of the God of the ancient kingdoms of israel,in hebrew god is elohim, yahweh is a special name; while Allah has nothing to do with islam, it means God,its the word god in the arabic language, independant of religion or anything , just like the word tree,or the word god in english,it's used by arabs of different religions. you cannot translate yahweh, does the bible translated to arabic keep the word GOD ? no they translate it to allah. well the same thing should be done with allah.
anibustr 10y ago
Indeed.
Allah = El Ilah, meaning "THE God"(one and only god). Or Eloah or Elohim in Hebrew, almost sounds like Allah. Same origin afterall.
Ilah = Jah in Hebrew. Very similar.
There's no reason it shouldn't be translated.
Pornography_saves_li 10y ago
Allah is not God, thats why. Which is why they say 'allah akbar', which means 'allah is greater'. Then who, one might ask...? Allah was a babylonian god, one of many, in this case, of the moon. And war.
But, ask Walid Shoebat, and Im bettin you hear Allah is just another name for Satan.
So, basically, thats why.
TheRedThrowAwayPill 10y ago
Sooo, you're saying this God of Abraham is broken up into many parts, eh? Huh, that's a new idea . Interesting.
Pornography_saves_li 10y ago
You couldnt have twisted that more if you tried.
darksoldierk 10y ago
When they say "god is greater" it isn't that he is greater than other beings, but rather, that he is greater than everything. In other words, his will is greater than your wills. It was made in order to tell people that they need to not do what they want to do and do what god wants them to do. In other words, if you want to....lets say, work during prayer time, well you couldn't because your will is lesser than god's, and god wants you to pray instead of work.
TheRedThrowAwayPill 10y ago
If you have to miss prayer due to some important reason .. then you're gonna miss it. If you're a 'traveler' you're excused.
Pornography_saves_li 10y ago
Not according to, say, Walid Shoebat. And, since he has the Quran and the Bible more or less memorized, ill accept him as authoritative on the subject...
htbf 10y ago
Same in every langage. I think it's because "christians langage" refuse to admit that the God of Islam is the same God of christians. Calling him Allah making him more foreign and different.
PlanB_pedofile 10y ago
Allah is God's name so is Yaweh is God's name. Zues is also Gods name. But God is God
darkrood 10y ago
There are enough division within Christianity.
Accepting Islam will just dilute their congregation, lower the political influence, and cut down the weekly tithing.
When in doubt, follow the money.
Batou_Red 10y ago
Probably because Christians and Muslims worship their God in fundamentally different ways. You might have noticed if you've read the news lately.
Pornography_saves_li 10y ago
No, he isnt. Thats an invention of the 'there is no absolute right or wrong' progressives.
TruePill85 10y ago
Probably because they're not the same
eddiae 10y ago
its not even about the same or not, allah can be used to refer to a greek god, an ancient egyptian god, the christian god, or the muslim god, its a word of the arabic language that predates islam. so it should be translated into God, not translating it makes it seem like allah is some weird name like toutankamon or vishnu etc.. its a bit misleading
htbf 10y ago
You're stating it as fact even though it's everything but.
If you ask a Christian, he would say no.
If you ask a Muslim, he would say yes.
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TruePill85 10y ago
The facts are there, do some research,
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Momo_dollar 10y ago
What do Arab Christians call god? I know that before Islam, Arab Christians and Jews called god "Allah"don't think they changed language after Islam came.
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Arab Christians do call god Allah, or alrab
The origin of the word is "Elah" which means "god", and muslims now do use both words. And were used by Arabs even before Islam, among pagans.
And the name "Abdullah" existed long before Islam, which means "god's servant".
In Arabic, the literal meaning of the word god is Allah, Elah, Alrab (or Rab)
So basically the word Allah isnt the name of the god, it is just the literal meaning of the word "god"
Pornography_saves_li 10y ago
Any Christian that thinks would call that blasphemy. Oh, and a lie.
htbf 10y ago
I have never met one but they probably call him Allah, since the word Allah is a pre-Islamic word.
Pornography_saves_li 10y ago
True. Babylonian i believe. Allah is a god. But he is not God.
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Religion is a pile of shite. If there is one thing I hate as much as feminism its some dude in a towel or a fucking stupid pope hate telling me how to think and to give him money for it.
Is there anything more Beta than letting someone who died 5000 years ago dictate your world view?
TheMGhandi 10y ago
Religion is fine, however people are not. They kept changing it to benefit themselves. Even in Saudi Arabia there are "scholars for dollars". Men hired by the government to issue rulings that they are given.
Our worldviews are dictated via male teaching. Teachings which haven't changed a lot for centuries. We live in modern huts, use modern horses, make modern gold, eat modern bread, fuck modern women, and fight modern men.
Shit...knowledge from 100,000 years ago can still be applied today.
[deleted] 10y ago
Yes it can. But pure philosophy. Sun Tzu. Machiavelli. Aristotle. Nietzsche. Not religious superstitious nonsense
Yoxinov 10y ago
The alpha uses religion as a tool to control others. Whether or not he follows the rules himself is irrelevent.
[deleted] 10y ago
What a load of bullshit.
Religion is the refuge of the beta. Why do you think beta christians force others into it? Because Beta mentality require that others follow
I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE 10y ago
You are both right. The message attracts betas, betas follow, but alphas run it.
[deleted] 10y ago
I'm atheist but you are overlooking the fact that a framework for Red Pill behavior (under a different name) spans all the major religions for the past 2000 years. That framework create a stable, functional society which got us here today. When this is all overlooked it's throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Just as we are learning that our modern food is killing us compared to the natural food of olden times, the modern hypergamous society is toxic for our society.
[deleted] 10y ago
Actually, we are living far longer. A redneck eating mcdonalds all day lives longer than some anglo saxon peasant eating mead and broth
dirtydog413 10y ago
But not because of diet. The peasant didn't have access to modern medical care and also probably worked dusk till dawn doing hard physical labour to feed himself and his family.
[deleted] 10y ago
Yes but religion is a propaganda network just like feminism.
Caligula; Aristotle, Tzu, Machiavelli, de Sade; were not religious
bluedrygrass 10y ago
Wow, what a bunch of nice people. Imagine if society was all like those.
FinallyRed 10y ago
You would be more correct to compare feminism to religion than vice versa. Feminism is under the umbrella of Marxism which is the religion of modern times. The difference between the religions of old and the religion of today is that the brainwashed used to conform blindly to ideals that reinforced the stability of their societies rather than to ideals that actively destroy them.
[deleted] 10y ago
True, but the ideals of today should be science and truth, both of which are red pill, simply because they are the truth.
Red Pill is just science philosophised into a 2016 context. It is nothing mystical. On the other hand, feminism and religion are cults.
FinallyRed 10y ago
Except science and truth require open mindedness combined with critical thinking. It's a tall order bringing that to the masses. What should be isn't quite what is feasible.
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Uckcan 10y ago
Yea no thanks - I like my turn the other cheek and enlightenment.. The Saudis live in the 8th century
[deleted] 10y ago
Your 'enlightenment' opinion is also the one in which you can never be guaranteed a reliable wife and if you attempt it you're in with a 50/50 change of losing half of your shit.
Uckcan 10y ago
Huh? The enlightenment? Separation of church and state? Primacy of civil authority over religious authority? Science? Not there is one religion and if you don't believe what I believe you're fair game to get your head chopped off and I can hve sex with any woman in your family? That enlightenment
htbf 10y ago
Are you so sure ?
Sleeping with a single woman outside of mariage would land you and her a 100 lashes. If you're cheating, it's the death penalty by stoning.
It's true though that if everyone plays by the rules, there will be no need to be "alpha" and Sharia law would protect everyone, even lesser men. So you're kinda protected, she can't divorce rape you, cheat on you without impunity, or other shit like that, the kind of shit that drives people to here.
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htbf 10y ago
Yes, that's the social justice part of Islam, protecting the bottom 80% and making sure they aren't left to fend for themselves in the sexual market place.
The harsh punishments are there to make sure nobody is even tempted to stray from the social order.
[deleted] 10y ago
These all sound like reasonable stop gap measures to protect women from themselves.
earthforce_1 10y ago
So how would martyrs get 72 virgins if most of the women are in Hell? LOL Somebody's not getting laid in their afterlife big time.
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Easih 10y ago
easy; the martyrs vision of Heaven could our vision of hell.
TheRedThrowAwayPill 10y ago
(Sorry to break it to ya, there aint no '72'. Also, "virgin" is a relative term - "untouched" is more accurate. And they're not exactly "women" in our earthly sense)
earthforce_1 10y ago
I know, it's just a tongue in cheek response to the popular myth. But it's interesting to see how various religions try to square the circle.
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[deleted] 10y ago
Firstly, I am not religious but I do study religion in the same way someone might study history. Thought I would add some more great gems:
Proverbs 30:20: "This is the way of an adulterous woman: She eats and wipes her mouth and says, 'I've done nothing wrong.'
Also in Buddhism:
"In crossing the river [from Saṃsāra to emancipation] (...) crocodiles are a designation for women." Gautama Buddha, Majjhima Nikāya 3
"If it were not for women being admitted into [our order], my teachings would have lasted 1000 years, now they will not last 500." Gautama Buddha, Dīgha Nikāya 3
"Women, with their two-fingered wisdom [i.e. stupid], have a difficult time [understanding what I teach]." Gautama Buddha, Saṃyutta Nikāya 4
"It cannot happen that a woman may become a Tathāgata, a Sammsambuddha." Gautama Buddha, Aṅguttara Nikāya 3.14
Hinduism:
It is stated in the Bhagavad Gita that wonen are of lower birth rank than men. Also this quote is relevant to red pill perceptions of the state of women in the west:
"And when immorality prevails, O Krishna, the women of the family become corrupted; when women are corrupted, social problems arise.”
Judaism:
“3 set the value of a male between the ages of twenty and sixty at fifty shekels of silver, according to the sanctuary shekel; 4 for a female, set her value at thirty shekels; 5 for a person between the ages of five and twenty, set the value of a male at twenty shekels and of a female at ten shekels; 6 for a person between one month and five years, set the value of a male at five shekels of silver and that of a female at three shekels of silver; 7 for a person sixty years old or more, set the value of a male at fifteen shekels and of a female at ten shekels.” – Leviticus 27:3-7, NIV
a man may do whatever he pleases with his wife [at intercourse]: A parable; Meat which comes from the abattoir, may be eaten salted, roasted, cooked or seethed; so with fish from the fishmonger. [4]” – 1962 Soncino BablyonianTalmud, Nadarim 20b
OP/ MyLittleAtomBomb have already covered Islam amd Christianity so now we have some consensus from the big 5 religions.
waldo888 10y ago
it seems that every successful society is based around a similar principal. lmao were fucked.
freethinker34 10y ago
This is simply just evidence that there have always been butthurt men that felt wronged by women, even thousands of years ago. Men are the expendable sex, 80% of men are completely not even on the radar to women. This leads to frustration for those men, and back then they did not understand human sexual psychology so they came up with other explanations.
Beegsi_ 10y ago
The script awalt_cupcake quoted is from the narrations (Hadiths) of the Prophet (SalAllaahu 'alayhi wassalam) which is also a revelation like the Quran. Prophet Muhammed (SalAllaahu 'alayhi wassalam) was not butt hurt he had around 11 wives and after he died, none of them remarried!!! He was kind, merciful, fought bravely in battles and a Super Alpha people followed.
Also Muslims marry young even those who are poor and have a low SMV. There is no frustration this isn't the west.
"back then they did not understand human sexual psychology so they came up with other explanations"
^^ Men back then were more alpha and brave then men now. Men back then had better control of their women.
quixoticme1 10y ago
If one man can marry 11 wives then clearly not all men are marrying. Those who can probably marry young, but it seems like Islam facilitates and even exacerbates the 20:80 division more than the west could ever dream
no_face 10y ago
No. Quran is revelation (i.e. God's own words), but Hadith is used to explain the Quran, but was compiled many years after the death of Muhammed and is not revealed. Bhukari collected more than 100,000 hadith and concluded that most were false after investigation. People were making up hadith to suit their convenience. The final list of Hadiths were divided into sahih (authentic) and hasan (good) hadith (for example, the narrations concerning 72 virgins), in favour of maudu (fabricated) or da`if (weak) ones.
Muhammed was an exceptional character and historical figure, but his kindness and mercy were very selective. For example: http://answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/qurayza_jews.htm
Doesn't seem to be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_at_first_marriage
Well, yes if beating the wife is legally sanctioned and the state did not arrest people for it, things would be different here too.
bottomlessvoid 9y ago
According to Quran every word said by Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) is God's revelation.
The Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) was always kind and merciful but He (Peace Be Upon Him) was also Commander of Army and Ruler of state and had to act accordingly.For the tribe of Quraiza,see here http://www.answering-christianity.com/umar/banu_quraiza_stuff.htm
The wikipedia does not have stats of all the muslim countries.
Beating is not legally sanctioned....only appropriate physical punishment(one or 2 slap but not on face) and this is also not recommended but allowed
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I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE 10y ago
I like to tote guns, n' shoot dice.
hugeveinycock 10y ago
Pfffffftttttt I'mma be in heaven drinking wine with my nigga Jesus
FLFTW16 10y ago
IF heaven and hell are real--and that is a mighty big if--heaven is surely an eternal party, an unlimited gourmet buffet, a rave with no hangover, a non-stop orgy, warmth, security, fascinating conversation, and a ticket to explore the universe and its infinite dimensions and permutations with friends and family.
Hell is probably a dingy, silent, isolated prison cell locked in a stress position, no food or water, or hope of escape. Total despair and sadness.
foldpak111 10y ago
The latter is what most men in today's society feel like, so all hell would be is getting thrown back on earth.
Sir_Distic 10y ago
That is more accurate according to the actual bible rather then modern media, which gets the idea of hell from Dante's Inferno.
In the Bible hell is a place of cold loneliness far from God's love.
Easih 10y ago
Actually in the Bible, Jesus also mention that they will be not raised from the dead so we can assume there is only the void for the wicked.
Toxicbutt 10y ago
I don't think anythings been more oppressive to women than religion and yet they worship a feminist ideology thats stripped the modern women of any dignity and respect. The Kardashians are all going to hell poor Bruce RIP.