"Top red pill blogger writes about how women set social custom to get genes from alphas in her youth, and only put up with their husbands later on for provisions."
We're the boogeyman other communities talk about. Rarely do people mention our content when they spread their ghost stories about us. No, they're far too content attaching labels to us in attempt to make TRP the monster they've imagined. Attacking our arguments and logic is too big a challenge for most...
But yesterday, some fellow sure as hell did try:
Unfortunately, he picked the wrong article to ridicule. The concept his title derides is actually a theory from a reputable Sir Ronald Fisher. It's called the Sexy Sons Hypothesis (alt. Good Genes Theory), which has been commonly accepted by the scientific community since its inception 85 years ago.
So, people came to laugh at Red Pill nonsense, but instead they found strong logic based on established sciences. This is a problem. Are we not supposed to be idiot misogynists? They've long since believed that everything RP says is evil and wrong. But now, confronted with such a basic truth, they have to reevaluate that belief.
To make things even better, along came GLO:
Congratulations you just advertised the Red Pill and gave it at least an extra thousand subs this week. Also the "Sexy Sons" Theory is pretty standard and held by many biologists who have nothing to do with the manosphere.
- GayLubeOil
Clicking his link reveals that the OP is a 40 year old virgin and a regular SRS poster. But hey, his life isn't so bad. At least he gets to participate in the oh-so-important Cringe-Style Takeover of the TiA subreddit. Posts making fun of Tumblr feminists have been banned for being too political, I'm sure their stunning victory is at hand any day now.
For those new to TRP thanks to this free advertising, please read the sidebar. The Introduction would be a good place to start.

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TBP posts my comments from MRP and here all the time. All it does is raise our profile. Men specifially write me for personal advice because they see me trolled
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redpillschool Admin 10y ago
Not on my watch. We have contingencies in place. I've been preparing for a hostile takeover since the inception of this sub. I know we're unpopular and a target for attack, so I made backup plans for our backup plans.
I don't think that's a very big risk. Worst case scenario I will go full Hitler until I find new mods.
BetterBadIdeas 10y ago
There's still a lot of healthy feminist mockery on TiA, last time I checked. Not dissing your post, just wanting to know more about what you mentioned at the end
BetterBadIdeas 10y ago
I saw that headline on TIA and knew that most of the people who read it (remember were already working with the jaded TiA crowd here) would read it and be like "we'll that makes sense"
RXRob 10y ago
That 40 year old virgin just had me laughing on the early bird train like a woman reading Heat magazine.
He is literally the caricature of a blue piller. He's had one relationship in which they never got physical but being open meant she had a lot of suitors. He's respectful. He doesn't rock the boat.
If you're reading this ThalesToAristotle (I will not link his name here) then I'll be sure to let one of my four dates this week know that there's a swell guy I know on Reddit who'd love to respect a girlfriend.
antariusz 10y ago
I'm so confused by the 40 year old virgin thing.
I mean, sure, I was a bit slow on the uptake about "reality" because I was a virgin until 25, but then started listening to advice that worked, found some PUA stuff, and slowly started the path towards enlightenment...
BUT that was because I was so depressed at the age of 24 because of the world not working how I thought it was supposed to, I was willing to try anything and everything different to what I had been doing. 10 years ago, PUA was just gaining popularity online, and I just had never HEARD of the methods that people were using to get laid. I mean, I worked around 95% guys in the military, and I played WoW all the time, I just wasn't EXPOSED to the information. Once I had a plan of action, I knew how to implement it, and there was definitely a learning curve, but it WORKED.
Granted, I still had a really really cringeworthy blue pill understanding of the world for another 5 years after I lost my virginity, but how do you get so far down the wrong path that
Becomes a possibility?
CornyHoosier 10y ago
The women in my family would fucking hate this guy. He is treating women like delicate little glass sculptures that can't think and act for themselves. Twenty bucks says my 22 year old, female cousin could whip his ass.
antariusz 10y ago
Physically, she wouldn't need to, socially and mentally, she already has. He's already been selected out of the gene pool because of his lack of social intelligence. She may have sympathy for the disadvantaged, but she is not turned on by a retard. Even if he compensates for it in other areas, his glaring flaw is just too much for him to overcome. Results speak for themselves.
thefisherman1961 10y ago
I really wish people outside of this Sub and blogs associated with it would shut the fuck up about The Red Pill. I don't want free advertising and I don't want more people subscribing to it.
xfLyFPS 10y ago
Don't give them ideas. They read shit like this and know exactly what to do - dilute the community into purplepilldebate.
666Evo 10y ago
I'm confident the mods will combat that to the last. We'll be banned before we're diluted.
MyMovieSucks 10y ago
What is a good example of purple pill debate?
xfLyFPS 10y ago
Check out the sub with that very same name.
I'm thinking that blue pilled people would migrate here en masse and start debating simple concepts like AWALT in every thread. So there would be a 50/50 division in content and the newer red pillers would be misled by them into believing that TRP is just a childish phase or whatever the fuck. Mods wouldn't be able to pick out individual shitposters like they do now since there would be so many blue pilled people from Salon or whatever shit the nu-males read.
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"Living well is the best revenge." - George Herbert.
"Win through actions, not argument." - Rule 9.
The amount my life has improved in the last 12 months, I can't even summon the least bit of energy to argue with posts like these. This guy is a literal 40 year old virgin. We've already won.
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I feel bad but at a certain point, it's like...go ahead keep being BP, it's obviously working so well for ya.
[deleted] 10y ago
Why? He's clearly aware of the red pill yet has dismissed it as bullshit without any consideration. To me, every failure this "man" has is now his own fault.
CornyHoosier 10y ago
I feel that most of the recovering-BPers here (myself included) took the time for self-analysis and came to the conclusion that: the problem is ME.
These people are so used to blaming their woes on others and being victims that they don't have the ability or personal responsibility to think that maybe it's their actions that are incorrect.
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What you're describing is being able to see past the ego. Insecure and little men can never admit that they're at fault. However, if they've seen the right path and their ego has stepped in, whatever follows is now their fault (in my opinion).
Also, just for future, i would not recommend starting posts with 'I feel'. I used to do it a lot myself but that's how women debate.
Linrraba 10y ago
I used to follow tia. They really screwed up that subreddit .
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I've been on it recently, it's getting SJW dude..
Uptonogood 10y ago
I used to post there all the time. People there were ruthless. WTF happened to that place?
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Uptonogood 10y ago
I pray that this place doesn't end up the same.
We must be very watchful of any attempt to make this place more "palatable". Constant vigilance is one of the prices for freedom.
redpillschool Admin 10y ago
Over my dead body.
CornyHoosier 10y ago
That's why I'm fine with the way people talk here. It's a space for men to speak freely or vent. I may not agree with them all the time, but I want to know that someone in their anger stage has the ability to say what they need.
This is why /r/mensrights is likely going to fail. They're trying to be inclusive so will stifle what their members say.
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Oh shit, that analrape from /u/Gaylubeoil, he didn't even tell him to bite the pillow, just went in dry with 17 inches of Russian muscle.
It's like they say, no publicity is bad publicity, I think this goes double for TRP, our detractors don't spend much time here and just moan about us on SRS, but the men looking for answers find out how deep the rabbit hole goes.
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TogiBear 10y ago
If GLO posts about you and feels sorry about it, you REALLY need to reevaluate your life.
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gmflag 10y ago
Sadly they don't even take the time to think. I still don't understand why some red-pillers go to the TIA sub, let alone the purple pill sub. A lot of the blue-pillers just want to get validation and not have their beliefs and thoughts challenged.
Squeezymypenisy 10y ago
In the case of GLO, he is a blogger/writer and he's building a base of followers and fans to eventually release/write a book. He's said it himself he plans to write a book. My guess is he will either show a publisher he has the followers to get successful book sales or he will self publish and use his vast fan base to start a series of books. I know he likes to do public debates which can help raise his profile.
rporion 10y ago
You do not debate to convince your opponent, you debate for the audience.
If your opponents are as you described them, the audience sees that and some will come here to see for themselves.
I don´t know about you, but if I can convince one to come over here and maybe develop a more realistic picture of what the world is really like, I will do it.
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rporion 10y ago
I don´t want to "convert" anyone either.
However, when I was 18,19,20, there hardly was an Internet.
Each and every one of us that "did not get it" sat alone at home at the brink of being suicidal.
I cannot get those years back, but I can bestow them with some meaning retroactively if I give at least some young men at least the chance to see that there is another way.
CornyHoosier 10y ago
Instead of promoting the Red Pill exclusively, simply take more of a role in young boys lives. For whatever reason, men have seemingly given up on boys in this country - likely out of apathy. Three very good avenues to donate your time to boys are: Boy Scouts, Big Brothers & Big Sisters and The Boys and Girls Club.
I was raised by a single mother. Those were three organization I was apart of that, to this day, I still remember the men there who lead everything. That's how much my younger-self unknowingly needed a strong male figure in my life.
rp_valiant 10y ago
some people just want to guide new members into TRP because they wish someone had done that for them. Many guys here found TRP later than they would've wished.
gmflag 10y ago
I was one of those guys that wished I knew earlier; however, even if someone introduced it to me earlier, I probably would have written those guys off as "misogynists shit lords" etc. I wasn't ready to be introduced to it until the moment I was. I had to go through what I had to go through to truly and fully accept the red pill.
My philosophy is that I will not introduce or talk about the red pill (some of the concepts I might introduce here or there sparingly) unless the audience I am with is amenable or ready to be introduced. How do I know? When they ask me the right questions.
Sir_Distic 10y ago
This exactly! I wish I had been introduced to The Red Pill 20 years ago.
But even 10 years ago I wasn't ready for it. I would have actively refused it. Blue Pill.
But I do wish a man had come along, took me under his wing and taught me this real stuff here. My life would have been 100% different. Instead my life started when I accepted the Red Pill.
RedBigMan 10y ago
Easy because trolling is fun in moderation. Also it still brings in fresh blood as someone sees a TRP guy trolling and goes and looks around here and find it makes sense.
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I actually can't tell if ThalesofAristotle is a troll or not. Poe's law and all that of course. He claims to be a 40 year old virgin, which is his first post on that account. And he says some things that are beyond white knight parody. If he's a real person that I am infinitely sad that such a person can exist and mock TRP without a hint of self awareness. If he is a troll then good job.
iamz3ro 10y ago
This hit hard. Seriously. There are males, in this world, that ACTUALLY THINK that they CANNOT let a woman know that they want sex. We have gone deep. The state of man is very concerning. I feel so sorry for him, honestly. In this very moment, I want nothing more than to see him come over the TRP.
CornyHoosier 10y ago
They've had the veil over their eyes so long they don't understand their fellow humans. People, both men and woman, enjoy being told they are wanted. It doesn't matter if the "want" is professional, relationship related, a hobby or anything really.
Dustin_Bromain 10y ago
He's too far in it. Some betas just can't be saved, to be honest.
ironblacksmith 10y ago
I love comments like this. The MACH runs deep.
redpillschool Admin 10y ago
Ironically, OP is actually a self-admitted virgin of 40 years.
But wait, if you can only come to the wrong conclusion because you're a virgin...
sourdieselfuel 10y ago
Which ironically sounds exactly like the guy who wrote the article.
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Yes I have been close enough to SOME women to realize that SOME of them are manipulation machines..
I love how this poster thinks that the dynamic of a friendship isn't any different from a sexual relationship. Also, they completely miss the concept of TRP. It's not like we think that all women are universally the same carbon copy clone but there are some generalities that most women share in common and having a "good guy friend" dynamic with them (as in it's like hanging out with your buddy and shooting the shit) isn't the way relationships work. Life would be a lot fucking easier if it was!
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we do agree they aren't generally logical or able to think abstractly... so I guess it's expected
thefisherman1961 10y ago
Wrong. The average woman is capable of thinking just as logically as the average man. But logic is not their default programming; emotion is. When emotion and logic contradict each other, emotion wins out in the mind of the average woman way more than it does in the mind of the average man.
niczar 10y ago
That might be why men are 5 times more likely to be autistic than women.
widec 10y ago
Seems to be lacking some basic basic reading comprehension
HeatseekingLogicBomb 10y ago
Refutes own criticism anyway with the conclusion.
Culture is a byproduct of natural order. And to imply the biological clock isn't a real thing just shows you aren't going to find any good argumentation. It's just resentment for a natural process. It doesn't change anything.
rp_valiant 10y ago
I think the key misunderstanding is thinking that TRP ascribes AWALT to a conscious process. Granted, it's not something that's directly talked about much, but it's pretty obvious that all evolutionary psychology-derived behaviour is subconscious and is later rationalised to make sense to the conscious mind. Like how we never think about why we are drawn to eat chocolate, but when we do think about it we just come back to "well it tastes good". Disregarding that the draw towards sweet foods is much stronger than a conscious decision like "I might eat some chocolate, I enjoy the flavour".
HeatseekingLogicBomb 10y ago
That's what TBP relies on. Nearly everything they say is a strawman that demands AWALT as a necessary logical extension to conscious thought, deliberately misrepresenting the context of the statement (which is admittedly a practical generalization and not an absolutist decree).
a_nus 10y ago
In my experience, very intelligent girls who actually analyze their own behavior catch on to this, and do do it consciously. I've talked to a few friends of mine who admit they do this.
There's very few girls who analyze their own behavior (hence why I said the intelligent ones.)
rp_valiant 10y ago
generally we'd call those girls "lucifer's daughters" after /u/illimitableman's blog post. They're the female equivalent of Dark Triad.
Soriq 10y ago
In other words, bitches don't want fake alphas.
Think as you like, but behave like others
peoplearejustpeople9 10y ago
It's funny that they hate fake alphas but isn't that the epitome of a partner? A partner who feels empathy like a beta but will act like an alpha to keep the woman's tingles cumming. It's like a win-win.
Dustin_Bromain 10y ago
This is exactly what I always wonder!! Women literally idolize the man you just described. A guy with an Alpha body, and an even mix of the Alpha/Beta mindset.
peoplearejustpeople9 10y ago
I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this.
Dustin_Bromain 10y ago
Seriously man. I don't get it. It takes time and effort to be an alpha.
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I think i got cancer
[deleted] 10y ago
That dude's 40 yo virgin post reads like a textbook example who's just about to search is out. It's almost sad he's so entrenched to not see the dichotomy of what women say/do
[deleted] 10y ago
I've noticed more feminists on TiA it's getting fucking wack.
RP_is_mainstream 10y ago
This 40 year old virgin openly hates TRP (tries to get cool points by forcing content with mod powers on an unrelated subreddit), yet is the exact stereotype of what people "wished" your typical TRP user should look like.
That's some high level irony right there.
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Upon browsing TiA there seems to be a lot of TRP content being submitted recently. When I looked at the users submitting they were all TiA mods. When I looked at others ubs they modded is was all very much linked to the SRS Fempire. Politics at work.
DRMMR76 10y ago
This is basically how I discovered TRP. I was over on Fark, and someone had posted something about how the friendzone doesn't exist and anyone who thinks it does is a misogynist who thinks he's entitled to sex. I responded with a story about my experiences of being manipulated so thoroughly by a girl I thought was my best friend it's like she was doing it off some playbook. Got told I "sounded like one of those red pill assholes". So I googled "red pill" and "friendzone" and here I am.
Dustin_Bromain 10y ago
Perfect. And now you're here and becoming a better man with the rest of us. I find it highly amusing that their attempt to beta shame you back into submission has led you to find a place so infinitely helpful for you.
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Advertising is not a positive
redpillschool Admin 10y ago
How'd you get here?
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TooMuchToDoo 10y ago
Disagree. self advertising is not a positive.
awalt_cupcake 10y ago
I agree. You do not talk about Fight Club.
SW9876 10y ago
There's no such thing as bad press.
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We aren't selling a product, it's just guys swapping notes.
Making it a product ends up with smart people selling shitty products that placate stupid people, making a lot of money in the process.
Be glad it's just glo selling t-shirts right now
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MrRexels 10y ago
Tumblr in Action should stick to mocking bipolar teenager girls. Mature, intellectual men are way out of their league.
[deleted] 10y ago
What are they trying to do? Change the entire sub to pro feminist??
probpoopin 10y ago
Have we ever even met a woman or been in a relationship? Lol, ask your girlfriend...
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[deleted] 10y ago
Ha, "finding yourself" is definitely a well understood term among women to mean sleeping around
AcrossHallowedGround 10y ago
That may have been humorous is said to the intended recipients and not into an echo chamber.
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Mr_Badass 10y ago
Blue pillers see attraction between people as destiny, fate, a happy accident, and/or it just happened. They want to believe in the "magic" of finding their soul mate / prince charming, and that the love spells come naturally. When they are told that there is no "magic" and attraction is a set of conditions they cannot accept it. It's telling them that attraction [love] can be controlled and not a natural phenomenon that just happens. Its like someone telling a red piller that they can control time, which we see as a natural phenomenon that just happens and not controllable.
CornyHoosier 10y ago
Disney really fucked this country up, huh? Ha ha! They should have stuck to singing animals.
waldo888 10y ago
I think love is separate from attraction, and that is what people have lost. The ability to stick with someone and help them through the hard shit was what marriage was meant for. When people cannot be in control of their emotions you have pure instinctual behaviours being perpetrated. I think people believe love is attraction, this is so base.
Cyralea 10y ago
Listening to the rationalizations of BP men and women for our existence is one of the most entertaining things out there. "Have they ever talked to a woman?", stated as if the entirety of TRP came about as the theory-crafting of a hundred thousand virgins, rather than the detailed analysis of the culmination of our life experiences. The best parts of TRP exist because of the men who have been with so many women were able to pick apart the commonalities.
Simple minds want simple answers, of course, so there's no sense in wasting time with these folk.
CornyHoosier 10y ago
Nail on the head.
I was the weak beta virgin who was massively overweight, never interacted well with women, dressed poorly ... and yes ... had poor facial hair grooming (neck beard). Why yes, I do work in IT ...how did you guess!?
When I decided to change myself I had never even heard of the Red Pill. What I did was start watching and emulating men who I saw as successful with women. I knew there had to be underlying current that I was simply didn't understand.
After a lot of observation I saw in them confidence, style and self-determination to excel at what they wanted to excel in. I saw that the men I wanted to be didn't work to appeal to women or men, they worked to make themselves happy.
I was Red Pill before I knew what it was. However, it wasn't until I stumbled on this sub-reddit that I realized I wasn't alone in my struggles and observations.
thefisherman1961 10y ago
The thing is that The Red Pill and its followers are an organized community. Blue Pill thinking, while far more prevalent, is extremely disorganized. You'd think the fact that we are so organized would lead them to think there's something to this Red Pill stuff.
larrythetomato 10y ago
I think here you hit on a deep issue. After a quick scan I have seen many replies of the form:
It's a weird world when the reader brags about not being able to read a complete page. What they are looking for is not carefully reasoned arguments but powerful emotional rhetoric. This highlights the new generation's need for extreme hyper-stimulation. This is something that I am sure I have, and am still looking for how to conquer it.
psionicsickness 10y ago
Is there a tl;dr of your post? I got bored reading it. /s
J_AsapGem 10y ago
the ignorance of some people is really astonishing, i say these people deserve to be used and manipulated for being foolish.
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Fantastic find. Anecdotally, what you're describing is extremely disconcerting to people these days. I can't really talk about stuff anymore in a way that isn't both conclusive and quickly digestible.
Everybody knows here that spewing comments after just reading the TL;DR of a post is wrong. It's dumb. Most people these days only want the TL;DR, and then they just start talking.
thefisherman1961 10y ago
It's the same reason that media faces and politicians keep their arguments to five sentences with a punchline. There's no substance to what they're saying, it's just designed to appeal to the most amount of people. Bitching about someone's argument being over a thousand words is basically just admitting that you're lazy, close-minded, and you don't have the attention span to read anything more than a bumper sticker to get your worldview.
RS73 10y ago
I think that speaks to the discomfort many feel when faced with the real possibility that life doesn't operate the way the SJW mob says it does. And it's just a lot more work to question and think for yourself. There's a lot less blood, sweat, and tears involved when you simply obey the SJW hashtag campaigns instead of seeking out as much info as you can and really coming to your own conclusions.
The SJW mentality runs the media, academia, and politics in America. Venturing outside of what society says you're supposed to obey is disorienting and scary for most people. It means placing yourself outside of the group and having to answer to that group for your nonsubmissive thoughts instead of simply agreeing with every single thing society tells you to think. Most people fear being an outsider. They'll support any idiotic or destructive bullshit society engages in even if they know it's false in order to remain part of the big mob.
CornyHoosier 10y ago
No! Surely you jest! I can't think of a single instance in human history where that has happened.
thefisherman1961 10y ago
I've always naturally distrusted the masses, even as a child it was easy to notice how people think in mob mentality and how fucked up it is. There's something about the majority of society that has always made me uncomfortable, and as an adult I now understand why. On the smaller scale, we have the majority of people being Blue Pill which is obviously false. On the grand scheme, we have the democratic majority that has totally fucked this country up by electing fucked up politicians. It's all tyranny of the majority in some way, whether literal or figurative.
So I always tend to have minority opinions on issues because I naturally distrust any majority. I have so much distrust for majorities that I believe democracy and government are vile systems that ought to be abolished. The free market empowers the individual (the smallest minority), so I am an anarcho-capitalist. That is a very minority opinion, likely even more minority than Red Pill thinking! But I do believe the two go hand and hand, which is why I'm not surprised to find a lot of An-Caps on this sub.
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Wow you're great at elaborating thoughts. That was some good stuff and I feel you on that. Like on facebook you'll see morons just uploading quick pictures of political stances. Look this person condensed it and has a view on it, this is my view now! I don't even have to think about it!
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PeanutFlavor 10y ago
When I think of the typical Reddit user--ESPECIALLY the typical BP Reddit user--I think of some dude who's about 5'9, has a pair of those standard issue black and white Vans sneakers (or Adidas Sambas), buys his jeans from Kohl's (overpriced, bad "cut"/fit, faux-premium brands), severe male pattern baldness at 24, skinny-fat, drinks Yuengling. That shit.
You KNOW this mother fucker owns a headset or a video game chair SOMEWHERE.
redpillschool Admin 10y ago
Seriously man, don't shit on Yuengling.
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Oldest brewery in the USA, small town Pennsylvania folk drink nothing else.
peoplearejustpeople9 10y ago
Those MGTOW fatties are bad too. They gave up on bettering themselves and just decide to blame women for their troubles.
thechariot83 10y ago
Hey now, Yuengling is a quality brew. lol.
redadactyl 10y ago
We have one of the Yuengling breweries here in Tampa and the tour is awesome.
kinklianekoff 10y ago
In that cesspool I found only one detractor with a bit of common sense. If what is found here is as absurd as is believed, there really shouldn't need be so much attention directed at alleged neckbeards living in their mothers basement writing thesis after thesis about trying to have sex with women, having sex with women or not having sex with women.
MyMovieSucks 10y ago
Do we really WANT advertising? Isn't this kind of better if we keep it as an underground secret club?
Dishmayhem 10y ago
LMAO
Thotwrecker 10y ago
I hope that as TRP grows, we avoid participating in the Reddit / social media game. I get that this is pretty funny, but actually debating and explaining to BPers is pointless. There are going to be more and more articles on progressively more mainstream websites about TRP, it's inevitable. I hope we remember not to bite and provide them with adclicks; no need to do our part in starting an online back-and-forth.
If you observe how society / feminist media has basically demolished and ridiculed MRAs to the point where you cannot talk about anything related to male issues without getting called a neckbeard misogynist loser angry white male... you can see what trying to debate and argue in their space results in. I hope we can all just leave the rest of reddit and the internet alone, and just focus on pumping out great content.
I sometimes see TRPers posting on relationships or even twox or askbetas / askhamsters trying to "save" their fellow men or "educate" a woman on personal responsibility, and of course, it goes as expected. Stop that shit.
Scizzler 10y ago
Dude, stop with the large font and bold. Just stop. It's the first sentence, people are going to read it regardless. Lame as fuck to use large font bud.