Our "right-wing" party, the Conservatives, have chosen a famous professional victim feminist as the Department of Education's Mental Health Tsar. She has used her new power to "call for a strict and rigorously enforced age limit of 16 to be placed on gym memberships, unless accompanied by a supervising adult". Her reasons given for this are nonsense.
The attack on masculinity continues as always, but with two major differences:
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feminism is mainstream and professional victims are now becoming official government policy advisors above actual professionals and academics.
- the feminists have learnt to stop saying that boys/men do not have problems, and now will list accurately the problems that boys/men have, evening blaming feminism on some of it. But only as a preface to push their own agenda, which always seem to literally do the harm to boys/men they claim to prevent.
Here is Natasha Devon. There also are many images of her posing in a bikini on google images, as she is very body-positive and proud of her currrves. Good on her, but maybe she is not my go-to #1 expert person when it comes to the topic of nationwide fitness legislation.
Now lets dig in to the article she has written for the Daily Telegraph: https://archive.is/ClTgi
We now skip the first 4 or so paragraphs which are naturally about her, and get to:
Ostensibly, there's nothing much wrong with this. It's incredibly difficult to be a young man in today's society. The increasing prevalence of mum-only one-parent families, plus the relative dearth of male teachers, has left many teenage boys without real-life role models. Aspects of the new wave of feminist thinking in our culture have also meant a lot of young men are struggling to find a sense of identity.
Wow, this is great. Those are real issues and we have a feminist actually acknowledging it. The pendulum really has been starting to swing the other way these last 2 years.
Educational psychologists will also tell you that boys tend to crave structure and routine more than girls, and like to work towards a tangible set of measurable short-term goals. All of these needs can be fulfilled somewhat by the gym. It's a testosterone-fuelled space where teenage boys can find older men who will instruct and induct them into the ways of fitness culture. It's little wonder they're seeking gym memberships in their droves. So why, then, in my new role as the Department of Education's Mental Health Tsar, have I called for a strict and rigorously enforced age limit of 16 to be placed on gym memberships, unless accompanied by a supervising adult?
I'll make this note here: I think young teens SHOULD have a supervising adult for their first few workouts at the very least. Good parents should pay for a PT. PE lessons in school should give condensed copies of starting strength. There should be school tests on the material at http://simplesciencefitness.com.
But I believe that banning gym access outright for teens (that know what they are doing) would destroy school athletics, lead to dangerous home-gym constructions, and possibly be set as a precedent for further increasing gym bans for all of the wrong reasons. The reasons she gives for banning under 16s are not age specific and can be used on under 21s.
My reasons are numerous. Firstly, it's because young men are vulnerable and dangers lurk beneath the gym's friendly edifice. Less scrupulous fitness professionals 'up sell' protein shakes, energy drinks and even illegal steroids to impressionable gym-goers. Experts warn that excess protein consumed during teenage years can not only lead to kidney failure, but also inhibit the growth of the skeletal structure if too much muscle is bulked onto a growing frame. Energy drinks are in fact mainly sugar, which rots teeth and the potentially fatal consequences of steroid use have been widely documented.
All of this is clutching-at-straws. There is nothing wrong with protein powder and energy drinks (in moderation, as with all things). You aren't going to get kidney failure from eating more protein (unless you have CKD, which you and your doctor would know about). They sell Gatorades everywhere, and protein powder is in super markets now - you shouldn't stop teens going to the gym because they can buy supermarket products there. Christ, taking an energy drink after a workout is probably the only time you should be taking one.
As for steroids: this is very rare, and you get in serious trouble for selling them already, ESPECIALLY to a young person. Banning gym access because you might bump into steroids is like banning nightclubs as you might bump into cocaine.
Also she came into this discussion as a "Mental Health Tsar", not a fitness expert. We don't need to be told that sugar can rot teeth.
Secondly, there's the potential for distorted body image. Over the past decade, ie since gyms went mainstream, male hospitalisations for eating disorders have risen by 70 per cent, according to excellent charity Men Gets Eating Disorders Too. This is not, I believe, a coincidence.
Based on just a hunch she creates this link. You don't get eating disorders for eating 3500kcal of chicken, broccoli and brown rice. That increase in eating disorders is either coming from anorexia or perhaps there might be some sort of 'obesity epidemic' or something going on. Beats me. It also might be that increased awareness is actually encouraging boys to get help, and that is driving the numbers up.
Usually if you come up with a theory about a correlation like this you would look into what those eating disorders actually were, before pushing a motion to parliament and writing for a national newspaper.
Obsession with being muscular is not the same as wanting to be healthy and whilst gyms can undoubtedly assist men with the latter, they can just as easily fuel the former.
Muscles are not healthy! You are too big! Its the kind of shaming you expect from your friends and family when you start putting on size. Crabs in a bucket.
Its great seeing swole shaming come from this woman, of all people. Like any Real Feminist worth her red hair dye and thick rimmed glasses, Natasha Devon has been on TV numerous times to talk of her body image and twitter victimhood. Usually this happened after paying for a professional photoshoot of her oversized body in a bikini then posting it on twitter, which seems to keep happening, for some reason. Its almost as if she deliberately.... ah forget it
The man in the mirror: gyms are a feeding ground for male narcissim [sic]
She equates loving-your-body with narcissism, yet she got famous from posing in her bikini and loving-her-body.
This line is also the closest to the truth we will receive from her. Narcissism from swolenesss is an abundance of body-positiveness. She knows that men would feel better about their bodies with more muscle and less fat. She just doesn't want them to reach that stage, as they wont be beta and controllable any more.
Take a moment to think just how disingenuous and truly evil this is. To be acting as a body-positive ambassador for the government and for male mental health, and to want to ban gyms as it may increase body positivity a little too much. All the while doing nothing else to help.
Recall Robert Conquest's third law of Politics:
- The simplest way to explain the behaviour of any bureaucratic organisation is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its enemies.
This shouldn't be read as a tirade against gyms. After all, I'm a member of one and find it an incredibly convenient way to stay strong and fit.
'Incredibly convenient' must not be convenient enough. Here she is posing for BeyondChocolate.co.uk, where she wrote a guest post earlier in 2015. She concluded her guest post with the wisdom "My advice? Tune into your internal voice, learn to distinguish genuine and emotional hunger and then trust your body enough to eat whatever the f*ck you fancy." - Surely she doesn't mean sugary foods?? She saw the sugar in energy drinks as a reason to ban teens from going to the gym, in case they bought Gatorades and their teeth rot.
Thirdly and most importantly, gyms are currently providing a need which should be being met elsewhere in the community. The average state school child does just a single, one-hour session of PE per week. This is nowhere near enough. My group, the Self-Esteem Team , are currently researching in all boys schools to ensure we convey our mental wellbeing message in a way that will resonate with them. Teenage boys are telling us that the lack of physical activity their average school day involves actually impedes their ability to concentrate in class.
Well thats nice and thoughtful of you, but a lack of physical activity outside of the gym is not a reason to ban gyms!! Its a reason to keep them!!!! What twisted logic is this!?!?
If she wanted and cared about having more PE time in schools then she would be campaigning for that.
Throughout the UK, community sports clubs have been closed in their hundreds. Team sports like rugby and football are not only great exercise but teach players the value of teamwork and improve social and communication skills. Much more so, I'd argue, than swapping tips for bigger biceps.
It is feminists that have worked so hard to remove these male spaces. Now that the men have moved to a different one they wish to push them to more controllable places. If the men were all in rugby clubs we would be hearing about 'lad culture', 'why cant women play on the same teams' and 'why must men hurt each other?'.
The changing landscape of feminist policy/persuasion
I have been on TRP for 2-3 years now, and believe it or not, a lot has changed in society. When I first was here you could not speak against feminism in public, it was crazy. It was like being really racist. You would lose a lot of friends. You couldn't speak on reddit either. TRP was hated waaaaay more than it is now. About a year ago we started getting the odd video of extreme feminazis.
Move forward to today, and even leftists acknowledge feminists can be crazy, and that they hate men. I had a crazy leftist trying to tell me why we needed open borders and basic income for all, but in the middle of the discussion he told me not to associate him with feminists as they are crazy. The number of girls comfortable calling themselves feminists is plummeting too.
Smart feminists no longer ignore the plight of men like they did two years ago. They are now forced to pretend to care. They then use it to get attention for their own causes, such as removing male spaces.
This trend is increasing. Here is another example: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/20/feminists-complain-green-party-poster-sexist-men/ . They claim that the advert is sexist against men. Thats a new one. They trojan-horse it, by pretending that they are fighting for men, when really its about women - "The sexualized representation of people (mostly women, but increasingly also men) is the most common and visible form of sexist advertising,". The "victim" was the guy who made the advert!
Currently government and policy are getting more feminist, but popular opinion is shifting. The most widely circulated paper in the UK had a 'feminazi' story on its front page last week. The pendulum will swing much sooner for our governments than I first expected back in 2013.
This all really goes to show the genius/wisdom of 'The Misandry Bubble' in the sidebar. I thought 10 years for a full cultural-battle-arc was way too short, having never lived through one (that I was adult enough to be conscious of). But its 2015, we are halfway through, and its no longer a hate-crime to criticise feminists. They are having to resort to actually acknowledging our problems before pushing their agendas. This can only be good. You can control acceptable opinion but the average member of the public eventually catches on if its too far detached from reality. Most people arent pure psychopathic rent seekers.
The bubble wont burst, but it will be deflated in a controlled manner. Some bits will inflate while others deflate. The pendulum wont swing all the way back: it will swing to a new place; but one where men aren't simply hated for the essence of who they are.
The Big Question
How do we make money from this?
wanderer779 8y ago
You are right things do seem to be changing. I'm skeptical of my own sense on this though since my viewpoint is pretty skewed. Most people are just waiting for CNN and WaPo to tell them what to think.
If it is true then the only thing I want to know is how to make money from all this. Often a time of great change can be a source of opportunity for the early movers.
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Ifuckinglovepron 8y ago
I'd fuck that big tittied faux redhead milf.
Or was there something else she was saying?
Adolf_ghandi 8y ago
You don't fuck with the swole thus you have to stop them before they get swole.
sigh...
Xemnas81 8y ago
She may be Leader of 'Team Self Esteem' but she clearly fucking wants an Alpha based off her list of '10 dating mistakes men always make'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/relationships/10961939/Ten-dating-mistakes-that-men-always-make.html
RedKnight1990 8y ago
She better have some fucking research to back those statements.
bad_pattern8 9y ago
it is the current year. I think we can all agree it is time for a national conversation about assault biceps
how can any civilized society allow unrestricted access to free weights
what is needed is a federal program of gym licensing. only sufficiently progressive men, who have a proven track record of checking their privilege can be allowed access to exercise equipment
Rebikhan 8y ago
Thanks you... every time someone says "It's 2015, we should..." I cringe a bit. Chronological snobbery, chronological snobbery everywhere.
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87GNX 8y ago
You mean like these guys?
RXRob 9y ago
An army general has already threatened a coup should Jeremy Corbyn get into power.
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axis77x 9y ago
Yay i'm excited too. Though if the bubble bursts, I would just stand and watch.
MaybeDefinitely gonna make money out of it.GIGANTIC_NIGGER_DICK 8y ago
How are you going to make money off of it?
internet_terrorist 9y ago
You might have noticed the quintessential flag of rebellion has been preemptively banned.
haxurmind 9y ago
Could always make a new flag, the Jolly Roger in deep red instead of black would be a good starting point.
ChadThundercockII 8y ago
Advertise for safe home gym equipments. They maybe cheaper than a three year gym membership.
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GIGANTIC_NIGGER_DICK 8y ago
I am incredibly jealous of your 15 year old self
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Philhelm 8y ago
Good on him for taking the time to do that.
ChadThundercockII 8y ago
Now I know why you are so awesome. Here, have a pat on the back, yes, that ripped back.
Dustin_Bromain 9y ago
That's incredible. Man is a legend.
oldredder 9y ago
So to speak. But in a sense the man is just a man... his dedication is legend, one among a few.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 8y ago
def second person on my list to meet right after Arnold
Philhelm 8y ago
It's funny that people tend to make fun of Arnold, but the man has been amazingly successful in life to the point that I'm ashamed. He comes to the U.S., becomes a bodybuilding legend, switches to acting and becomes the most legendary action star ever, and then switches to politics in order to become the executive of a U.S. state with one of the largest economies (if not the largest). In comparison, I'm not even a jizz stain on his jockstrap.
Sdom1 8y ago
California is the US's largest economy. In fact, if you separated Cali from the rest of the US, and ranked it on a world scale, it would be the fifth largest economy ON EARTH. With 38 million people. There's so much money there it's insane.
Ranking:
Rest of the USA
China
Japan
Germany
chances_are_ur_a_fag 8y ago
have you read his book? it's a blueprint to success
QQ_L2P 8y ago
I'm still holding out in hope that Demolition Man's prediction comes true.
ColonelMitchell 9y ago
Absolutely disgusting. Wtf is wrong with Europe
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This, as a man who had an eating disorder when he was 15, is ridiculous. you know what cured my eating disorder? Being told how to use the gym correctly, and being told that if i want to look good, i have to eat more, and weighing more is actually OK. after being taught that by a personal trainer at my gym, i slowly got better. took a while to actually get rid of the fear of weight gain, but it was the constant reminder in my head from the pt telling me to eat more that got me better. I don't know if i'd be ok nowadays if i hadn't gone to the gym.
So fuck this. I got anorexia somehow, not via a gym, and the gym helped me with my body issues. I will admit, having a decent, strong body is now part of my identity, but i wouldn't call it unhealthy. I would call my diet (lots of crap, mcdonalds etc) and my smoking and drinking habits unhealthy, but they are mentally healthy in comparison to when i wouldn't touch alcohol because i was scared it would make fat.
Also, all that shit about protein and energy drinks being dangerous is bull, and the thing about steroids being pushed on you? bullshit. I have been lifting heavy shit for 5 years now, in some pretty serious gyms, and none of the trainers ever offered me anything of the sort. they didn't even try to sell me protein for fucks sake. If you want steroids, you have to look for them. You won't just get offered them unless you are in a dodgy fucking gym.
no evidence exists to show weight training will stunt your growth, bs. If anything, they need to be teaching children under 16 correct technique and form and nutrition, not limiting them from the gym. that is just stupid.
i got my eating disorder because i knew girls my age liked abs and i got abs from eating less, and something felt good about being in control. eating disorders are a lot of the time about control, i liked knowing how my body would look, i liked knowing it was ripped as fuck (actually looked like a skeleton but the illusion was there). I have so much more body positivity now that i know i'm doing it in a healthy way, and the control is still there, that's the beauty, if you lift, you will stay muscular. i let myself get lazy every now and then, and i don't keep a strict diet because IIFYM and i have a small appetite so i eat calorie dense foods, but if i did have a strict diet i'd allow myself cheat days for my sanity. This is incredibly counterproductive and an all too reductive solution to a complex problem.
Snivellious 9y ago
Aside from any gender issues, I'm disgusted by the hideous abuse of actual medicine. I can't find a single example of a teen running into serious health issues from gym-induced protein overconsumption. This is pure demagoguery, abusing every shred of evidence, logic, and science to arrive at the predefined conclusion.
The utter absurdity of blaming gyms for male body image issues is also jarring. After acknowledging that men today lack role models and a place in the world, she suggests that mental illness is somehow the result of the gyms that only a fraction of men under 16 even consider joining.
This is utter idiocy under the guise of patronizing (matronizing?) decency.
Metalgear222 9y ago
I kept thinking about patrice o neal. You can't fuck with the truth. Now that people are noticing feminism for what it really is and its damaging tendencies, It's only a matter of time. Rest assured brothers. We're all gonna make it.
oldredder 9y ago
No, quite a lot of men are going to be trapped with pregnancies, false rape accusations and more.
Just a few of us are going to make it. Isolate, emigrate, lead. Conquer. One of those will work
hotyorgi 8y ago
I think he meand the ones who swallowed the Bitter Pill
drallcom3 8y ago
Yeah, he could accidentally become an alpha and see through all the feminist bullshit. The people in gyms are incredibly nice, despite their looks. Last week I've seen the biggest man in there giving an 18yo a lesson about confidence. Exactly what he needs.
Except that you need the gym to be good at those sports.
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What is too much muscle for the skeletal body
chances_are_ur_a_fag 8y ago
anything more than what she has
rockumsockumrobots 9y ago
Question: "Is it OK for men to go to the gym?"
Answer: "None of your fucking business."
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There is other side of this. They need to invent more work for single mother. Children since 10 are pretty capable of taking care of them selfs. But if children needs constant supervision until 16, 18 or even 21, there is more money for women.
ErasmusOrgasmus 9y ago
Stupid cunt.
Regular exercise has been proven a thousand times over to improve mental health and lifting 3 times a week makes me feel fucking awesome.
oldredder 9y ago
curves- BARFFFfff
She wants to make sure if she and women like her are going to be fat and unhealthy that no man should be hot enough to dismiss them and get the ACTUAL hot girls.
getRedPill 9y ago
This is so similar as the situation in Clockwork Orange with Alex DeLarge being jailed and that
pussysterMinister saying society can't punish criminals, "society" should rather treat them as poor victims and thwart male drive and male nature instead.This shameless prick was even fed in the mouth by the said minister himself while lying laying in bed. We all know how bad things turned for Alex anyways, he ended hating himself as much as a woman hates the nicest of the nice guys. He felt nauseated by himself.
Ah, what about said society? Nothing went better for society. People didn't became better, crime rates didn't went down.
CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 9y ago
Ive never actually seen the film but now I know I have to. Thanks
_beep_boop_ 9y ago
Serious question from someone who hasn't read the book nor watched the movie. Are they both of the same premise?
getRedPill 8y ago
What you mean? Book and movie have differences but you should watch it and read it. Both are worth the time
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I liked the book and was also horrified by it when I was younger. I couldn't stand the movie and couldn't watch the whole thing. Mostly because it was so dated. The music, cinematography, and costumes just killed it for me.
Kale_Eater_Bro 9y ago
That's draconian and disgusting. I'd bench press her desk in response. Might have to clear off the 'Live Laugh Love' crap though.
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ABC_Florida 9y ago
For the record, how many of you have seen groups of women with a PT, being in the gym not to get fit, but to flirt with the PT?
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CowardlyPetrov 9y ago
Because you're evil and your ideology is evil.
ajax80 8y ago
16 is pretty young imo, but at the same time why the fuck does she care?
I totally agree that things like rugby etc are better for teenagers, in fact I honestly think the gym should be supplementary to other shit whether it be sports, martial arts, or even a job that requires heavy lifting.
But that's also just my opinion.
People should be able to do whatever the fuck they want if they aren't infringing on the rights of another human.
What is it with these people...
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"inhibit the growth of the skeletal structure if too much muscle is bulked onto a growing frame"
This is the female "I don't want to get bulky muscles" excuse reformed as government policy.
lolypop103 9y ago
Emphasis mine
That's a new one, now sexism isn't just toward others, he can even be sexist against himself. It's like saying you're racist against yourself, ya works wonders.
Prinz_von_Kirchberg 8y ago
It was due to this poster:
http://images.derstandard.at/t/12/2015/09/07/schmid-gruene.jpg
QQ_L2P 8y ago
They literally divided by zero. 'Grats.
[deleted] 9y ago
Aren't they already saying that you can be racist against yourself with wordt like Uncle Tom?
Wolfsdorf 8y ago
To be honest, that defines the whole of the SRS crowd; white dudes hating themselves for being white and male.
[deleted] 8y ago
How about the teenage guy recently arrested for "child porn" because he had nude pictures of himself on his phone?
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wanderer779 8y ago
16 is too young for the gym but once you are 18 you can go to war. That is a helluva transformation for 2 years time.
nzgs 8y ago
The last couple of generations have been raised on a diet of government, government and more government. Any party that even contemplates shrinking government is met with a unified barrage from journalists, lobby groups, the BBC, social media and of course academia.
commentatorX 8y ago
The UK is like a natural Alpha who let the rest of the world shame it into being/pretending to be a Nice Guy.
axis77x 9y ago
Not to mention that 16 is usually the time when a boy is most eager to change things in his favor. 16 was the time I thought of learning most of the things I know now.
If a boy misses that small window of immense motivational boost, he's gonna need a whole lot of discipline to improve later on.
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Larqus 8y ago
What exactly makes the age of 16 so crucial here?
axis77x 8y ago
There's really no exact age, but its around that time that you get a sudden awareness of yourself. Aware of where you stand in relation to others.
BlackHeart89 8y ago
I thought it said no one UNDER the age of 16.
Still. The law seems like a waste of resources.
Obio1 8y ago
The UK has a serious problem, but it's not men. It's that women in the UK are the fattest in Europe.
Ayleir 8y ago
The comments on that article are pure gold.
So many rustled jimmies.
Solomonceed 8y ago
The fact that the men are allowing this makes them part of the problem.
Squeezymypenisy 9y ago
Losing it? Uk has lost it for years. A shadow of its former self.
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Britain has been a shadow for some time; we are a shell of that shadow. We might talk of a pendulum slowly shifting back on gender, but the country is as socialist as ever.
Larqus 9y ago
Just imagine if the Great War never happened..
rp_valiant 8y ago
the real change came with the Suez crisis in 1956 - we were screwed over by the USA and first confronted with our new status as no-longer-a-superpower. The theory is that Suez caused a national depression that has never really lifted. Of course this all derives from the destruction of the Empire arising from WW1 and the colonial independence movements.
QQ_L2P 8y ago
Nah, you're thinking of the fact it never stop drizzling here. Not dry and not proper rain, just that really annoying light shit that causes haze, specks up your glasses and spits on any exposed skin making it juuuuust a tad too cold to ignore.
rp_valiant 8y ago
haha well that's certainly a factor - there's a reason we always talk about the weather and how shit it is.
IllimitableMan 8y ago
I don't understand why we just started granting everyone independence after expending all that energy on colonisation in the first place. And then after giving people independence, we invited Pakistanis, of all the people in the commonwealth, to come over in droves. I would have much preferred Indian Hindus or even Sikhs because they are FAR MORE peaceful people than Muslims. I mean for a book that says to deceive non-believers and slay them where they stand.. no thanks. I don't think we want to give you homes and jobs in a more technologically developed land just so you can undermine our culture.
What exactly were they thinking when inviting tribesmen from Kashmir to come and live in England? All of that was just the precedence for Rotherham and the muslim pedophile sex gangs grooming girls as young as 11 up and down the country, "sharia controlled zones" - where muslims try to impose their values on non-muslims passing through and all the bullshit Enoch Powell warned of in Rivers of Blood, but was utterly condemned for.
Islamification is a sickness that feeds on the dying corpse of western civilization. The future of Europe hangs in the balance when muslims are fertility positive and ethnic Europeans are not, because they've lost religion and replaced it with feminism (which is not compatible with ANY religion.)
RedBigMan 8y ago
The UK/England was basically forced to grant independence to nations after WWI and WWII because the world seen the truth that England's power wasn't it's own.
Commonwealth countries paid for their independence in blood. But not the way it had been previously. They fought along side England and lost so many in those wars. With a debt of blood that high there was little they could do but say yes when commonwealth countries asked for their freedom. Because they did this England was the only nation that survived it's own Empire's collapsing.
Philhelm 8y ago
Multiculturalism only serves to act as a Trojan Horse to destroy the host culture. Western culture has reached an insane point in human history in which it seems hell-bent on its own destruction. A successful civilization will export its culture to other civilizations, rather than be consumed by imported cultures. Madness.
Also, it's funny that when white people emigrate en masse it's colonialism, but when other people emigrate en masse it's simply immigration.
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Sdom1 8y ago
For some of them, they got brainwashed by leftie arguments, which are essentially very basic and emotionally based. For the marxists that supported all of these immigration measures all over the west, it was to introduce instability and undermine traditional local cultures.
Both groups are active and at work today.
Raudopilos 8y ago
I must admit I do worry about the way the tide is turning. I'm South Asian in origin (what is now Pakistan, then India, we're Sikhs and Buddhists), family came over some three generations ago. I'd say I'm pretty establishment: speak English as a mother-tongue (also Hindi), attended Oxford, middle class position etc etc.
Yet sometimes its hard not to wonder whether people around you really, really, don't want you there.
Sdom1 8y ago
I'm American, and at least here I never hear anyone worrying about Sikhs, Hindus, or Buddhists. The worst anyone ever says is that Indians can be a bitch to negotiate with. Maybe they don't like curry? You get the idea, minor gripes.
rp_valiant 8y ago
exactly right. Not only have we fallen from the lofty heights of Most Badass Nation in The World(tm), but now thanks to leftist politics we're bending over and taking it in the ass from people whose culture has no quarrels about assimilating foreign countries and slaying the nonbelievers. If you went back in time and told King George VI that the black flag of ISIS would be flying from London tenements, he would've had you killed for slandering the name of the Empire. Even the Conservatives are cowtowing to leftist moral outrage and there's nowhere to turn but UKIP/BNP, the latter of which is much too far in the opposite direction for my liking.
IllimitableMan 8y ago
If there is even a chance in hell that anybody in politics will make any remote step whatsoever to make this country great once again, it's Farage. It's a crime he didn't win the seat for South Thanet, I'm calling bullshit there. Something is fishy.
rp_valiant 8y ago
I think it'll happen next time. The country has collectively dipped its toe into right-wing politics with the Conservatives but it's clear that they're focussing more on the "trad" than the "con". I suspect UKIP will get its chance come next election, and I'll certainly be doing my bit for them.
Philhelm 8y ago
I was born in England (to U.S. citizen parents, although my grandmother was bona fide English) and was named after Prince Philip, so I'm almost royalty. If I were your king, my first act would be to slay the Prime Minister with the sword of King Richard I. I would then dissolve Parliament, burn the Union Jack, and hoist a red banner with a golden lion rampant.
All of the weak, nanny state bullshit would be eliminated overnight. There would be an immediate freeze put on all immigration save for Swiss mercenaries and Italian artists. I would conquer Ireland since I'd require a small island for my summer estate, and I would press my hereditary claim to the French throne. I would also begin negotiations with the Pope regarding the reinstatement of the title of "Holy Roman Emperor" in order to counter the European Union.
That would be just the first month of my reign. What's the point of having a royal family if they just sit around posing for photographers? At least I'd give you something for your money.
Edit: I've seen some videos of Nigel Farage; we could use some more people like him in the U.S.
Sdom1 8y ago
How is that too far in the opposite direction? I'm American, so I am just looking for context.
rp_valiant 8y ago
BNP, or British National Party, is a quite-far right-wing party - they're the standard nationalist party, being kinda racist and having some fairly extreme opinions on what we should change within the country. UKIP are the more populist right-wing party (besides the trad-con Conservatives), working on a platform of "Britain for the British" - cutting down immigration in a sane way, reducing benefits and getting people back to work, seceding from the EU and its vice-grip on our legal processes. All sorts really.
Rasalom72 9y ago
One thing that you failed to notice is that her first name spelled backwards is "Ah Satan".
should_ 9y ago
Look who's talking, Molasar!!1
Rasalom72 8y ago
ROFL! Nice! You got downvoted by people who haven't read the book..
ChadThundercockII 8y ago
franklyforthright 8y ago
I am more troubled by your desire to expoit your fellow man for profit. Rid yourself of possession, you should be looking to improve all aspects of life instead of grovelling in this sick system.
Be the change you want to see in the world "Gandi"
TylerX5 9y ago
Your post is paranoid. Children under 15 (in general, some bodies mature faster than others) shouldn't be pumping iron anyway.
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Everyone is really getting sick of this liberalism run amok. We just had a South Park episode on it lol. Even more grotesque is how government institutions have become saturated by this progressive bullshit, and even creating positions to increase 'diversity' which really just means more PC police. We get it here in the States too from the cultural marxists who seem to always major in Chicano Studies/Women's History/Artsy-fartsy majors. It's now the norm in some colleges to pander to the vocal minority in fear of being targeted for a witch-hunt that the media will jump all over because media in America loves any and everything that has to do with racial division.
dr_warlock 9y ago
I just recently had to watch a video regarding privilege and had to write about my privilege and
anti-whitediversity for class. Another professor recites passages in a book regarding male locker room talk in a mocking tone. He makes fun of 'macho' masculinity. Then another professor, a BUSINESS professor (PHD) says "how come there aren't that many female CEO's? What's up with that?". She congratulates even the most general nonsense of answers like "team work" and "innovation". A basic bitch indeed.This disease has festered, this cancer of feminism and other SJW retardation has metastasized into the education system. It's awful. It's getting real bad._beep_boop_ 9y ago
Seriously, read the Protocols of Zion if you haven't already - it's about how to use liberalism as a weapon against civilization.
Sdom1 8y ago
The Protocols of Zion is an antisemitic hoax. Liberalism isn't a Jewish phenomenon. There are many prominent Jewish liberals because there are many prominent Jewish [FILL IN THE BLANK] due to their academic and business successes.
One problem people have with understanding leftist/liberal thought is that leftists look at societies as systems which they have to undermine in order to control. They set out to infiltrate its various institutions, especially the ones which allow them to spread propaganda. Media and education are two industries that are almost exclusively leftist dominated for that very reason. I don't know about anyone else, but looking back I was exposed to a LOT of leftist propaganda in schools.
How do they dominate these industries? Easy. They get in, work their way up and when they get into authority run all conservatives out of that business. The McCarthy era is famous for blacklisting, but the reality is that the communist writers in the industry were the ones who first used blacklists - they were just furious when the tables were turned by Jewish studio heads.
If you think I'm kidding, find a conservative who works in education or media and find out just how quiet they are about their political beliefs.
_beep_boop_ 8y ago
The media in the west is primarily controlled by Jews. I don't see how that refutes the Protocols, especially when the protocols talks about creating media dominance in order to spread liberalism.
Sdom1 8y ago
Well, if Jews are in control of liberalism, they're doing a lot of counterproductive things, don't you think? They're busily importing millions of people to their nations that want them dead (Muslims). Look at France, the Jews are all starting to leave because of the atmosphere there.
Again, the protocols of zion are a proven hoax. Jews are represented in all high-paying fields, not just media. There's no Jewish conspiracy on that kind of macro scale.
_beep_boop_ 8y ago
I'm just saying - I have an easier time believing the Protocols are real than any of the leftist hoaxes: racial/gender equality, the patriarchal conspiracy to hold women down, critical race theory, privilege theory, etc.
Also, how can you prove that the Protocols are fake? Just because people complain and say they didn't do it, doesn't mean that it's not happening. A Mexican cartel leader could say "there is no Mexican drug trafficking conspiracy". But, what of it? We've seen the tunnels. We've seen the shipments of drugs. We've caught ringleaders. What about the Protocols? We've seen the growth of "social" pseudo sciences. We've seen the progressive taxation. We've seen the relentless promotion of liberal values through Jewish media. We've seen the way the media is used to discredit all religions except Judaism. We've seen how the media plays the races against each other (Ferguson and Detroit are good examples). So, sure, say it's a hoax all you want, but I'll need pretty good proof of that.
Zinamam 9y ago
Unfortunately you get authoritarianism regardless of whether labour or conservatives are in power.
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ledditor_1337 9y ago
UK is such a cuck country. Absolutely disgusting.
Tall_Irish_Guy 9y ago
Getting worse everyday! Planning my escape..
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[deleted] 9y ago
Another example of radicals trying to get rid of male spaces that could potentially build more testosterone fueled bodies.
Sdom1 8y ago
I do think that lifting weights too early can cause more harm than good biologically, and there are retards in gyms that sell steroids to high school kids. How do I know? Because half the guys on my football team in high school were using, and they got them from a local gym where some of them worked out. If you really get into lifting and get to know bodybuilders and powerlifters, many of them were on steroids quite young.
But, and this is a big but, I don't know if the UK is different, but in the US most guys start lifting weights at school, whether in gym class or through their school's athletic program. Generally this means you start lifting with at least somewhat competent coaching. At my school form was emphasized over all else, since they didn't want their players getting injured. In that light, lifting was a positive. I will say that I didn't get much out of weight lifting until I began my final transistion to an adult around 15, so that's why I think it's a net negative before then - no results plus injury risk.
Like I said, the UK could very well be much different.
Nebulose11 8y ago
Gamer Gate showed the crazies for what they are. It has been built up from there. Allowing us to talk to colleagues about femnazi bullshit.
[deleted] 9y ago
Getting cozy in here. We got feminists, global warming, financial crisis, and now immigrant crisis.
Honestly, when I saw muslims beat up feminists in France I did not know whether to cry or laugh.
[deleted] 8y ago
Are you speaking of that time when naked femens burned a flag in front of the Grand Mosque of Paris while screaming insults ? Because it was not a beat up, it was merely a little kick.
Here, the picture :
https://actualitechretienne.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/femen-islamistes.jpg
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Nope, I meant when they disrupted an event, a rally/speech of sorts, but may have been the very same thing since they did not show the outside of the building.
Sdom1 8y ago
I know, right?! In a Muslim country they would have burned them alive. You know, because they're so peaceful and advanced.
[deleted] 8y ago
Well some femens did some shit in Morocco and they didn't get stoned. One of them had been put in a mental institution for a few months by her familly, but that's it.
Sdom1 8y ago
So, your argument is that because someone got away with it in Morocco, they would get away with it all over the Muslim world? I would disagree, though I'll grant that the probabilities are different in different places. Try that same stunt in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran or Saudi Arabia and see where it gets you.
Hell, Saudi Arabia is going to literally crucify some kid for taking part in a protest. People in Afghanistan get stoned and burned alive all the time for smaller accusations than what the femen protestors did.
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ChadThundercockII 8y ago
I am from Morocco. Those bitches did it like in a minute or two and disappeared. The bitches got naked in the square of a historical mosque. Between you and me, if we had caught them, we would have beat the shit out of them like we did to some homosexuals and a trans-gender. We have NO CHILL, homie.
Tall_Irish_Guy 8y ago
Tell me you're being sarcastic. You fucking better be.
ChadThundercockII 8y ago
Nah bruh, I am not. I told you we have no chill.
Tall_Irish_Guy 8y ago
Seriously if you aren't being sarcastic or satirical then you can gtfo you damn retard. Good luck ever having a functional relationship with a woman.
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Tom_The_Human 9y ago
What the Muslims did was wrong, but expected. Furthermore, they are our brothers in this plight - why exclude them?
ky_windage 9y ago
Because redpill ideas are worth less than a yasidi sex slave to muslims. They're also compulsive liars, stuck in teenage rage fits when faced with minor slights, and are straight-up animals when it comes to thousand year old feuds.
Source: brother skypes every week from living in the most populated Arab country for the past 2 years.
_beep_boop_ 9y ago
because they'll kill all of us the first chance they get.
Dr_Killpatient 8y ago
My brother doesn't rape 7 year old girls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9cid-8eW3g
[deleted] 8y ago
What others before me stated, and for the fact that violence won't solve issues with feminists, especially not on camera. It'd give you bad press, which we see with islamists.
In case I had to choose, I'd rather have no children in a feminist society than have no head in an islamist one. Let's see in 30-40 years.
slothsenpai 9y ago
As someone who'd had major insecurity issues regarding body and how women perceived me, as someone who'd dealt with an eating disorder due to those factors and not "feeling good enough" for anyone, I can't tell you the incoherent rage I'm experiencing, particularly when bodybuilding and IIFYM (if it fits your macros) had got me out of that unhealthy eating pattern and gave me a more positive outlook. My older sister (who's an ultra-PC, feminist nut) had disparaged me from trying to workout and had ridiculed me for eating healthier when I was desperate for a six-pack. She'd tried to make that assertion to me that women don't care about muscles, they love nice sensitive guys and it was her way of trying to keep me in this beta stage since they're easier to emotionally manipulate.
To this day, I can say that going to the gym has got me the most utmost respect from even guys who used to bully me or treat me like dirt. Every time I get my dick sucked by a girl, it's cause she loves me abs and my muscles and not 'cause "urr succhh a niicee guyy".
CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 9y ago
Great work mate.
It annoyed me a lot too, hence my long post.
I went through some mental illness issues some years back. Paranoia, anxiety, and a severe debilitating depression. It took therapy and meds to help me out, but I will never forget the role that deadlifts played in that recovery. They rewire your brain like nothing else.
That people are trying to stop people in my position from recovering from what I went through................. bugs me
PedroIsWatching 9y ago
Fuck dude. How can you even stand talking to her?
oldredder 9y ago
True. Though where I live it gets fucking cold. My abs won't show unless I cut hard and that same fat lost is what keeps me not dead and not suffering in -30 (C) winter. Some shit's not worth it. I build my muscles & decide my fat level for my personal best needs, not what women think is desirable. Women are, after all, not that bright on average when it comes to fitness.
I know I have a choice: if I want my abs to show I have to cut fat to a stupid degree and I have to get seriously dehydrated on top. That's not for me. My muscles work if they're fit and if they show less I don't care.
There is no beta stage. Submissive men are beta. It's hard-wired. It can't be changed.
gnt_1 8y ago
Mental Health Expert who's also a feminist?
ayy
thereddespair 8y ago
mental health patient is more like it
the_optiomal 9y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynKzk994joQ
Dymit 9y ago
As with any "problems" that these people try to legislate for, the solution is education not legislation. I don't feel this is an ideological war on men, more just an idiot who wields power.
bizinmymouth 9y ago
Somewhat of an unrelated question, but is there such thing as an unhealthy amount of muscle? Specifically for a sport that requires a lot of jumping and is one where the majority of the players are usually on the skinnier side.
PedroIsWatching 9y ago
You're not going to accidentally bulk up with tons of muscle dude. Gaining requires willful planning and a lot of willpower.
CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 9y ago
You cant reach an unhealthy amount of muscle without steroids. And even then it isn't the actual muscle thats unhealthy. Your body has a natural limit for amount of muscle you can put on without steroids.
For endurance sports muscle mass can slow you down. For fast sports (sprinting) they have huge muscles everywhere, even in places you would think it wouldnt be needed.
If you do ultimate frisbee or basketball then you should maximise your squats for a huge high jump / long jump.
bizinmymouth 9y ago
I play volleyball and am trying to play in college. I dont want to add extra bulk that would reduce my vertical jump or reach. Any advice on what lifts I should primarily focus on?
CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 9y ago
http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/jumphigher.html
Go to "high to jump higher in a nutshell" and look at the excercises there.
You want to do a strength training routine. This will put on muscle but it will all be functional muscle. You arent bodybuilding but you are strength training (they actually are basically the same thing for the first year, you cant bodybuild very well without a strong frame).
Its much more important to worry about gaining strength/muscle than it is to worry about keeping your weight low. Here is an image of a powerlifter (very strong, but very heavy) - https://i.imgur.com/RhGVFmo.jpg .
you should consider booking a session with a personal trainer
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Dead lifts, cleans, jump squats, plyometrics, heavy weights, low reps
And don't forget, dynamic stretching
sweetleef 8y ago
"bulk" doesn't seem to have hurt these guys' jump too much.
http://ukolympicweightlifting.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/huster_jump.jpg
http://www.womensweightlifting.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/10008_495917333796429_273056645_n1.jpg
milescowperthwaite 9y ago
tL;DR -- Anything that gets those stinkin' little shitheads out of my gym is fine. They piss on the toilet seats, dont' wipe the equipment when they're done, they stand around in giggly gangs staring at their phones, blocking the weights/machines and they smell. Go home...Fuck, go do cross-country running and blow the smell off of yourselves.
RedAccount1330 9y ago
Lot's of men are in rugby clubs and it's a great male culture. I'd recommend joining one if you enjoy a bit of physicality and a pint every Saturday afternoon.
Dustin_Bromain 9y ago
I simply don't understand this. Gyms help to make Chads, and Chads create tingles. Why would women want to get rid of these Chad factories? Does anyone have some insight on this?
EleriumAvenger 9y ago
Gyms are male spaces. Gyms are an environment were men come to improvement themselves. First spaces were alphas and recovering betas mix have the danger of CC rides being shared. This endangers future beta bucks. Second there will always be natural alphas to screw but the idea that a beta could use the gym and become a fake alpha is repugnant to women.
popthatpill 8y ago
My guess is that it's to increase women's confidence that alphas are genuine. The logic is that if a guy manages to evade female betafication efforts, he MUST be genuine.
Milito3515 9y ago
Actual Alphas will have less competence :)
CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 9y ago
Its common and a core part of The Red Pill theory. Probably in the sidebar somewhere. Women have an instinct to make men beta, and prevent men from being alpha.
Imagine being a girl who wishes to tame a wild horse. Women have this instinct deep within them. They want to tame the alpha and make him their beta lover. Many women want lots of betas circling around them, telling them they are pretty, giving them emotional and financial support. Its like a bird's instinct to create a nest.
This effect has happened en masse with feminism. Women work together very well, and have pushed for what feels right for them: emasculating men, preventing men from having their own spaces to talk to each other (information is power, women know this better than men), telling them not to put on muscle. Telling men that the way to a womans heart is to be nice to her, buy her things, bend over backwards for her.
They spend 99% of their time focusing on the betas. They only need 1% of the time to get an alpha to have sex with them. Now they have the highest quality sperm with the ultimate support for the child, and have won the evolutionary game.
Dont hate it, dont love it, just accept it; its their instinct.
Dustin_Bromain 9y ago
Incredible stuff. But fuck the female imperative. This only makes me want to hit the gym even harder.
Red_Swords 9y ago
Damn.
And here I thought the US was bad.
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dr_warlock 9y ago
The goal is to give Planet Fitness a legal monopoly on public gym services.
PedroIsWatching 9y ago
I don't think planet fitness is a thing across the pond
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ky_windage 9y ago
" ... men [won't be] simply hated for the essence of who they are."
Dial back the wishful thinking and you'll be spot on.
Tom_The_Human 9y ago
Psst! Hey kid! Wanna buy some proteins?
I think this bitch forgot to put "/s" at the end of her article.
Gay people can't wear lipstick?! Bigotry!
Rhenthalin 9y ago
(How do we make money from this) Create after school gym programs that fulfill the adult supervision requirement of the gym and provide instruction to kids who want to get stronk
Merwebb 9y ago
She can say all that but, does she has the power or influence to make it happen?
Shankar_ 9y ago
"Enjoy the decline" as they say
my_redpill_account 9y ago
I didn't believe it at first (enjoy the decline comments) but being a republican, or white and male is pretty much going to mean you don't matter. (Yeah males are disposable already but you get what I mean).
The second you state you're republican you're lumped in a group as a religious uneducated science hating bigot douche assholes who love war and whatever else people love to state republicans are.
Being a white male you're a privileged piece of shit asshole rapist racist misogynistic fuck whatever else they throw out there.
Maybe because I keep hearing about feminism and other super coddling communistic crap I have a warped view but it's fucking obnoxious. The way I see it, is that Hillary or some schmuck is gonna win presidency and it'll only get worse.
At this point I'm just trying to enjoy my life as it is until something super fucked happens.
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my_redpill_account 8y ago
Yup. Which as why, as an atheist conservative who doesn't believe in giving anyone money without explicitly earning it, will get down voted. I don't even try anymore.
I've become nothing but conservative after getting a real job and working hard, and after browsing reddit. May seem stupid but seriously I fear for our country.
I think taxes should be the same but you choose where they go. See how fast welfare dies or free money socialist programs die. Liberals are great at spending other people's money.
I work for mine and expect others do the same but they're too busy pretending the reality of things are the governments responsibility. I don't care. I'm fine where I'm at I'll just enjoy myself until I'm fucked by them and have to move outta the country.
I'll get down voted or whatever. I'm a realist.
Nebulose11 8y ago
Stop saying republican. You are conservative.
You don't toe the republican line do you? I hope not cause they are fem feelz>reelz bitches just like the left.
[deleted] 8y ago
The "conservative" label has been ruined. The vast majority of conservatives support a massive government, from military adventurism, to the drug war, to the surveillance state, etc.
As an advocate for government that is actually small and limited (not just baseless rhetoric), I consider myself a libertarian.
my_redpill_account 8y ago
I guess if you want to be technical about it, you're right. But I think people get the general idea of what I meant. I'll use conservative from now on if it makes that much of a difference. Kinda hate labels (as non conformist teen angst sounding that is)
axis77x 9y ago
It's mostly just sexist&racist. The two most used word by a libertard(99% of reddit). You always see those two words in the first or last sentence; which my english teacher says contains the main idea of a paragraph.
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[deleted] 8y ago
I just had a hearty laugh from that. Thank you, good way to start the day.
CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 9y ago
I always felt that 'enjoy the decline' was a bit defeatist. Like "happy wife, happy life".
These days I use "Ride the tiger" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUzpcEVQu6w
(check out the first few chapters of this book if you get time: http://www.cakravartin.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/Julius-Evola-Ride-the-Tiger-Survival-Manual-for-the-Aristocrats-of-the-Soul.pdf ).
[deleted] 9y ago
That's an awesome book, got anything similar? Thanks for posting it!
CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 9y ago
Here is Jonathon Bowden talking about Evola: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YqKf3v2aPs
I cant think of any book recommendations off the top of my head atm. Evola has a lot of other work worth looking at. This is the only book I know that is like a guidebook. You might find some good book recommendations on r / darkenlightenment
[deleted] 8y ago
Sweet, gonna dive into that sub, as well as look around for more Evola material. Thanks mate!
_beep_boop_ 9y ago
I quite like "Fascism viewed from the right"
Also, somebody mentioned Jonathan Bowden. There's a book of his speeches called "Western Civilization bites back" that I would also recommend.
Here is a snippet from one of his speeches from Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR4MvD9IEAE
[deleted] 8y ago
Thanks man, seems to be a good read.
csehszlovakze 9y ago
Let's see them try banning bodyweight fitness or any other kinds of sports like football. Lifting can suffer because it doesn't have the huge mainstream "fuss" as do other sports. Most of the mainstream won't give a shit about it.
TheDialecticParadox 9y ago
Next the feminists will have men lining up to get their muscle/fat percentages measured so they can administer estrogen and destroy those pesky chads' selft-esteem. That will teach them for pumping and dumping them when they were 22.
rporion 8y ago
You think you are joking...
I won´t ruin the surprise but googling something like Sweden, bodybuilders, steroids might be entertaining...
Ah well, here is a link:
http://www.rxmuscle.com/articles/latest-news/2607-a-swede-talks-about-muscle-profiling-in-sweden.html
Muscle profiling, no shit.
TheDialecticParadox 8y ago
Well, shit. This is just plain evil.
ChadThundercockII 8y ago
Become a religious nut Go to Sweden Get swole on juice Claim it is a religious duty Benefit from their stupidity.
thedeathofgod 9y ago
Wait what was that part about when she said it was only in the last ten years that gym's went mainstream? I have literally never heard this.
CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 9y ago
Weightlifting in the UK has picked up a lot in the last decade. Protein powder was not a thing before, now its in supermarkets. Health shops sell creatine on the high street.
I dont really know the numbers though, it might be confirmation bias.
Snivellious 9y ago
How do we make money off of this? Well, I suggest 'informal' male spaces.
Obviously the words "Men's Club" are grounds for protest, but as you say, feminism is changing its battle lines. There are some things it can no longer stand against directly. Perhaps a space to counsel men about body image issues - a space with a good barber and some weight lifting equipment. Perhaps a space to give men strong role models - tutoring by men for men, and masculine experiences in the vein of Big Brothers.
The sorts of things that help with acknowledged problems in actually effective ways, not just lipservice while advancing some other agenda. There's going to be real money there, solving the catastrophe that is modern masculinity. It just has to be done, at the moment, in ways that aren't directly oppositional to feminism.
jm51 8y ago
There's a manspace barber in my city. (UK) Expensive but good. If a guy comes in with his gf, they tell her to wait outside.
Talked to the guy cutting my hair about it, he said it's not because they are women. It's because they aren't a customer and they make the queue look longer than it actually is.
[deleted] 8y ago
Make money. Create hobby/spaces spaces that do not cater directly to women. Guys bond over doing stuff. Radio Control anything; Racing cars, motorcycles, boats (driving to mechanic), mens sports leagues etc... granted once a guy succumbs to marriage you'l lose a customer for a while.
For dads that are still in the picture, get your sons involved with scouts, sports or your more age appropriate hobbies. If mom tries to nix that, implicate she is hurting the child.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 8y ago
europe in general is an ultra progressive shithole that I just fly right over when I travel.
rockumsockumrobots 9y ago
Just like any ban, sell the contraband.
*Home gyms
*protein shakes
*"Child Athletic Associations" not calling them "gyms" to skirt the law?
Good luck Britbros.
sgt-pepper12345 9y ago
Ok, for once I'm struggling to see the issue with an article, and the one problematic part relating to narcissism could quite easily have been an editorial choice rather than the writers'.
She could be accused of being a little heavy handed and statist, obviously - but as far as I can tell there are legitimate concerns for men in both health and education brought up here.
When you're developing in your teens you don't want to be purely lifting, and definitely not chugging protein shakes. The suggestion to have sports each morning to start off the school day is actually a very reasonable one, encouraging proper cardio fitness, and developing young men to compete and work as a team.
I'm all for remaining vigilant of feminists attempting to emasculate men by the back door, but I really don't see this article as an example of one of them.
oldredder 9y ago
Betas work as a team. Leaders lead the team.