Summary: the latest trend in "enlightened" parenting seems to be raising a child in a genderless environment and allowing the child to dictate his gender.
This question comes from Quora, the bastion of "progressive" thinking:
Parenting: Should I try to raise my child genderless?
This would involve basically not telling anyone else whether they are a boy or girl, but rather just explaining to the child what their genitals are and what genders are and leaving it up to them when/if/how they want to identify. (Similar to Remember Storm? We check in on the baby being raised gender-neutral | Toronto Star)
Now, had this been posted here, the reaction would have been predictable - instant facepalm followed by a collective "WTF are you thinking you idiot?" bitch-slapping.
Sadly, due to the nature of the intellectual "open-minded" posters at Quora, this person is actually receiving encouragement. Here's the top answer:
I think it's a great idea, and my wife and I have been raising our twins (currently 7.5 months old) this way. We generally refer to it as "Gender Neutral Parenting", as this tends to raise fewer hackles and more accurately describes our actions. So far we have received only positive or neutral responses from people, which was pleasantly surprising given the vitriolic responses described in the Storm story. Then again, we live in a fairly progressive part of the US and haven't had any newspaper articles written about us, so maybe not so surprising.
The question contained a link to an article in the Toronto Star about parents who are raising their kids as gender neutral. The result?
Her eldest son, Jazz, now almost 8, always gravitated to dresses, the colour pink and opted for long hair often fixed into braids. Jazz’s questions about gender were, in part, what inspired the couple’s controversial decision about Storm.
Recently, Jazz requested to go by the pronoun “she.”
“And for now we honour that,” says Witterick.
As for Storm, “sometimes Storm says ‘I’m a girl,’ and sometimes Storm says ‘I’m a boy,’” says Witterick, emphasizing the point that, contrary to what one might think, the topic of gender doesn’t actually take up a lot of air time in her family.
Note that they are homeschooling their kids to further reinforce this gender-neutral upbringing. Something tells me that if Jazz were going to school, the other kids might have a few things to say about his gender-neutrality. I'm not a fan of bullying but early socializing has the benefit of giving you a gentler preview of what is to come later in life - a benefit Jazz is not getting at home.
Well, at least the mother is getting to write a chapter in a book called Chasing Rainbows: Exploring Gender Fluid Parenting Practices:
Plus, she really liked the idea of the book, which is rooted in feminism, and its editors, two university professors who were inspired to put together the collection because of the interest and debate that sprung from the Star’s 2011 story.
“I know I have celebrity status and if that helps get the book out there ... but it’s not like my chapter is the best one!”
This is what feminism looks like - declaring that gender is a social construct and denying the biological reality, and then using this flawed theory to confuse children about their gender during their formative years.
It's hard enough to be a man in the modern world with the lies and mixed messages we receive every day. Raising a boy as a gender-fluid individual until adulthood is akin to making them play Monopoly with no money - the disadvantage in life will almost be insurmountable.
EDIT: Interesting reading from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_and_sexual_orientation#Childhood_gender_nonconformity
Peter Bearman showed that males with a female twin are twice as likely to report same-sex attractions, unless there was an older brother. He says that his findings support the hypothesis that less gendered socialization in early childhood and preadolescence shapes subsequent same-sex romantic preferences. He suggests that parents of opposite-sex twins are more likely to give them unisex treatment, but that an older brother establishes gendersocializing mechanisms for the younger brother to follow.
Lessons Learned: if the feminists get their way, we're looking at a future where men and women have a blurred gender identity due to being raised "genderless" by enlightened parents.

Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 10y ago
This is practically child abuse.
Children are stupid. That's why it's not legal to turn them out on the street and let them fend for themselves. They can't. They can't do shit and don't know how the world works. They require parents to guide them and teach them how to do shit and how the world works.
It is your job, as a parent, to protect your children from their own stupidity and ignorance. When your young boy - a child - asks to wear a dress, he's not exploring his sexuality. He doesn't even know what sex is. He's not asking because he wants to identify as a woman, buck societal gender roles, and make a statement. He's asking because he's ignorant and doesn't know gender norms. Why would he? Nobody's taught him about those yet.
If you let your boy go out in a dress, he's not the one making a statement. You are. You are taking advantage of your child's ignorance as a bid for attention. "Look at me! I'm so open-minded! I'm so modern! Look what I let my kid do!" You are making a political statement in favor of liberal gender ideology and using your ignorant child to do it.
If your child is old enough to understand sex, understand gender norms, and understand what society expects of him/her, because you taught your child well, and he/she makes an informed decision to buck gender norms even though your kid's going to have a harder life for it, that's great. More power to your kid.
But if your child is ignorant of what society expects of him/her, and you don't teach your child these gender-normal expectations, then when your child makes a decision out of ignorance and has a hard time and is less happy for it, you fucked up. You failed to protect your child and educate your child properly, and your child was less happy for it. You fucked up. You sacrificed your child's happiness in the name of your liberal ideologies. What kind of abusive parent does that shit?
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As a first time father of a one month old son, this shit is all dead on! I cannot believe the amount bullshit advice I get to raise him.
Turkerthelurker 10y ago
They are so open-minded that their brains have fallen out.
Red_August 10y ago
Well put. The children are being subjected to a process of acculturation. By living off the grid, and homeschooling these children, the parents are attempting to sever with the dominant local culture, and substitute a new one of their own which has a different referent associative matrix in regards to gender. To be exact, this new bubble culture specifically offers no (null) referent associations in regards to the sex of each child.
You can rest assured however that the boy wearing a pink tutu will still attempt to climb that tree highest. He will be boisterous, and will want to push and shove. He will build things. He will observe, and attempt to understand, deconstruct, and transform the natural world surrounding him. He's more likely to break a leg, albeit he'll be wearing a pink tutu whilst doing it.
The girl, even though she may use a few
GIJoesanatomically correct male dolls as proxy dolls, she will still attempt to create a playtime social storyline with intrigue, drama, and the usual web of ad hoc rules, social shaming scenarios, and conversely, doll care-taking, and nurturing scenarios. There will be a lot of words, and conversations during her play. That big magnifying glass? She's not burning leaves with it, she's looking at her reflection in it.Should this family grow substantially or form a commune, the older siblings will also likely set new precedents to fill the void of referents within this bubble culture. If there is a dominant older boy constantly wearing a pink tutu, you may find the youngest boys evoking a desire to have their own too along gender lines. Culture has formed, and aligned with sex throughout our history, and throughout the multitude of human tribes. We are sexually dimorphic, and culture builds on nature.
The children will be penalised if they are re-introduced to the mainstream culture in the same way that an Amazonian tribe teenager will suffer a cultural adaptation by moving to Detroit. The attention-whoring mother is abusing her child by removing the pillar of being culturally adapted - the teenager will have to rebuild the pillar on his own in order to understand, communicate, and move forward. I see no upside to her exercise, even a peripheral one. (Although his notoriety, and name may secure him a job as an MTV VJ, but I digress - she's not helping him.)
/the_number_2 also raised an interesting point in the comments here about the likely pro-feminine environment. I'm pretty sure that you can be almost certain that as this comes from an attention-whoring feminist SJW - violent play would be discouraged. There would be no guns or swords (or sticks allowed to be used as such) for toys. Magnifying glasses would not be allowed to be used to burn ants, etc. This deficit of male play tools, and spaces to exercise dominance would in fact tilt the bubble culture to a pro-feminine culture. Any boys coming out of this would thus have an even wider chasm to cross.
redpillbanana 10y ago
Damn straight. Reminds me of a classic The Onion article:
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So.. how do we stop this? I get that we all see the problem here. But how can we actually stop it? How can we frame the argument to point out that these activists are the real oppressors and manipulators?
For example, people say that if you're opposed to gay marriage you are a bigot. But if you are pro-gay marriage, doesn't that necessarily mean you are anti-children? Since you are implying that a family doesn't require a mother and father (gay marriage) and kids therefore don't need/deserve/get to have one of their parents in their life. So by being pro gay marriage, aren't you by default also anti - children and anti - biological parent?
This is the way we have to frame these things in order to get traction. In other words, trans acceptance is the same as demonization of normal, non gender dysphoric people (99.7%). So we need to redefine trans and gender neutral as anti-normal.
The progressives are winning only, and I mean ONLY, because they use emotional language very effectively and most people are too stupid to use critical, rational analysis. If you tell young people who didn't grow up with a father and don't know any legitimate boundaries in their life until they reach college, that gender is made up and oppressive, they are going to believe you. Especially girls. Girls are so easy to manipulate because of their emotions. Have you ever seen a hot girl with a butch as dyke? Its because you can manipulate a woman into thinking you are a man just by looking and acting like a man. That is why women/fem bots and their beta enablers are pushing this genderqueer garbage. No rational man is going to buy into gender neutrality, transcult or any of this other feminist garbage. Women buy into it because they are incredibly easy to manipulate through emotions. It has the same effect as a mind control serum on their brains.
recon_johnny 10y ago
The kid's names are Storm and Jazz, for fucks sake.
How do you think this is going to turn out? They ain't got no shot.
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He will be sucking dick in gay bar for a mojito and a burger.
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Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 10y ago
You got me there. Thanks for sharing your expertise. I think the internet should disregard everything I say due to this point you made that addressed the core substance of my content rather than a tangential hyperbole.
SlappaDaBayssMon 10y ago
This is what they seek to change the social currency to. Before RP, I thought it was all of my 'informed views' and 'niche interests' that set me apart from other dudes. "He may have muscles, but I have opinions and obscure references".
I fell down that Illuminati hole hard when it was gaining popularity years ago. I thought I knew stuff about that everybody was willingly choosing to remain ignorant to, and I thought I was better than other people because of it.
It's strange how similar those "truth movements" were to modern day feminism and the culture surrounding the two. It's a constant struggle to be the perceived as the "rightest" about the issues. I bought it all hook, line, and sinker, because deep inside I knew I couldn't compete with other men on their level. So I re-drew the rules of the game that puts me in a position where I have some power.
Everything we human beings do is always in some part going to be about sex and status even if only a subconscious level, and in today's world where you average American can't be bothered to eat a fucking salad and hit the gym, social gerrymandering is happening more than ever.
Most of these people wouldn't give two shits about gender, social, sexual, or race issues if they didn't think they would gain any higher social status out of being seen caring about these issues.
TL:DR: People would rather gerrymander society and the SMP for status than attempt to compete within it. (Although, maybe that's because they were never truly taught how to compete)
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Do you know any legit resources that one can use to try and convince their friends that the whole illuminati thing is nonsense? I know a person who has fallen into that hole super hard and I don't know what to say to show him that is a bunch of sensationalist, paranoid garbage.
SlappaDaBayssMon 10y ago
Not really, I just kind of realized that altalternative media is full of all the same dirty tricks as the MSM. After you hear Alex Jones cry wolf over martial law for yhe the twelfth time, you get a little suspicious. Also, simply learning about power and how it works helped a bit. The worlds elite families do not all get along and work together toward a common goal, they're out for themselves.
TRPn00b 10y ago
Seriously. Jesus fuck. What the fuck is the point? To not hurt the kid's feelings just in case it's a one in ten thousand (or whatever) actual transgender?
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What is actual transgender? You think that you are a male because you think you're a male?
SwimmingToTheSurface 10y ago
Fuck whoever downvoted this guy. Is a legitimite question.
TRPn00b 10y ago
To my understanding, someone who is wired wrong and has the wrong sex brain in their head.
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You think gender norms are taught?
Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 10y ago
Yes, assuming we mean the same thing by "gender norms."
In Rome, men wore togas and sandals that went way up their calves. Today, that would be girly. Hundreds of years ago in Europe, artsy-fartsy types and musicians were manly-ish. But both before and after that stint, singing and poetry were a woman thing.
Gender norms change, at least somewhat, based on the times, the local culture, etc. If you don't teach your son that wearing dresses is unusual for a boy given the current culture, he might choose to do so out of ignorance.
It's our job as parents to educate our children about society, so that they know, very clearly, what's expected of them and what the consequences may be for deviant social behavior. If they choose to deviate from those expectations and reap the consequences, that's great. That's their choice. But if they're ignorant of what's expected of them or ignorant of the consequences, and they do something and reap unintended consequences for it, that means you fucked up as a parent.
Deliberately not teaching your child what society expects of him and allowing or even encouraging him to act in gender-abnormal ways is going to make him less happy in the long run when the rest of society shits on him.
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Miheegz 10y ago
Exactly!
Kids brains are no where near fully developed at 8, they have practically zero knowledge, and are very easily influenced. A kid could see a wizard in a cartoon wearing a robe and then want to wear dresses. It's ludicrous what these parents are doing. It's not Gender Neutral Parenting it is a Lack of Parenting. You might as well not force the idea of what is healthy onto your kids and let them decide their meals. When you end up with 300lb transgender offspring who are societal outcasts and have deep emotional problems, it'll serve you right! Poor poor kids.
the_number_2 10y ago
Dresses are the realm of girls, but everybody wears pants. Wouldn't the proper "gender-less" thing be to outlaw dresses for both son AND daughter? Go a step further and ban action figures and dolls, leaving playtime to include stuff like puzzles and board games (as long as they're properly gender-neutral).
Essentially, they're not going "gender-less", they're going "pro-feminine".
DarkLordoftheShit 10y ago
This needs more visibility.
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Double meaning, because it needs to be seen more as a comment, and it needs more visibility for the parents of how "gender-less" they are.
[deleted] 10y ago
This sounds like shitty parents conducting a psychological experiment on their children that can have horrible consequences like the child commuting suicide since trans gender weirdos have the highest suicide rates in the world.
EvilPenName 10y ago
Why is it always a little boy in these stories. I swear I never read how they dont want their little girl to be a girl but if it is a little boy some how they always try to remove his gender.
Uptonogood 10y ago
It fits into their "toxic masculinity" agenda.
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And as we know, men aren't born like women are , they're made. So the damage is far more extensive than if done to a girl.
forgtmnot 10y ago
Because girl to boy is seen as empowering by most. The worst a girl could be called is a tomboy, the worst a boy could be called is a sissy. One label is rather negative and shocking while the other is seen as 'meh' and not worth a second glance.
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Woman divorce-rapes husband, takes son, moves. Father burdened with alimony disguised as child support has all the authority of responsibility stripped of him but still left with the burden. Now you have a woman running the family who has no idea how to teach a boy to become a man, so he grows up effeminate. Que the hamster, and the term "emasculation" is replaced with "gender neutral".
[deleted] 10y ago
Boom. Couldn't have said it better myself. Have my fist ever upvote here.
NecroticFury 10y ago
its too early to know any realistic statistics, but it definitely looks to be the case. I dont think Ive ever seen a female to male version of this gender neutral stance at all.
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I don't think its about curbing population growth because their ultimate goal is to remove biological procreation all together. They want to artificially create children in labs, and sell them off ass commodities to whatever "family" pays for them. This is literally true. Look up genetic children of gay couples, or anything along those lines. The idea is to eliminate the biological family and replace the father with the state.
Perhaps we're half way in agreement. It could be that the goal is to control population growth by only allowing children to be created artificially, and then having a court or bureaucracy determine who is 'allowed' to have them, and who their 'parents' are, etc.. Its ultimately about giving all control to the government, because... the government is allowed to use FORCE.
It all comes down to force. Fem bots, betas, trans, etc.. have no power. They know all true power comes from the threat of force of some kind. They know the ultimate threat of force comes from the government, and to gain dominance over whatever they don't like (natural men being themselves), the need to convince the government (by codifying into law) to use force against us and any of their other enemies. This is why frankly I just don't give a fuck about fem bots and tumblerinas opinions on anything. I care about the fact that laws are being written to support these people. Once a law is on the books, you have an entire arsenal of government force as your disposable to punish non compliant people.
[deleted] 10y ago
I think back to my unplugging and the events that had to happen for me to wake up from the brainwashing bullshit men today endure.
It wasn't the women who left me. It wasn't the 3 women who "got pregnant". It wasn't the woman who accused me of attempted rape after she "changed her mind". Wasn't even my lying and cheating wife.
It was when my son's mother wanted him on Ritalin because he was hyper. An ordinary boy who looked up to me and would do anything to please me. A boy who trusts the world is ok because I am here to protect him.
Yea...he gets up from dinner table unexcused and doesn't like to do homework. He writes terribly compared to his math skills. That "asymmetry" was all some dyke officially needed to slap a label on him making him "a candidate for meds"
Women run the schools and at least 90 percent of the homes in America. The pharmaceutical companies are doping boys to make them behave like girls and getting away with it because fem dykes have pathologized emerging masculinity in our little brothers.
It's one thing to fuck with me my whole life but when feminism tried with my son I found TRP (more accurately...TRP found me) and have never looked back
Jesus Christ the anger can come back. I'm pissed off again
[deleted] 10y ago
Wow I'm fucking enraged. I hear you man, doing all that bullshit to me? I can deal with it. But Jesus that hit home hard.
Barrebaron 10y ago
If this takes hold its gonna make a generation even more broken than the self esteem movement did.
killcat 10y ago
Whats the bet the parents were giving covert gender signals, "boy is bad, girl is good" sort of bull, given their feminist beliefs.
changshuaidiao 10y ago
Millenials are going to somehow raise a generation of kids even weaker and more useless than they are.
Countpudyoola 10y ago
This shit strikes such a nerve with me. I ranted over at mrp but I'll post here ,too.
Me and my daughter bonded really well, when she hit 3 she wanted to do all sorts of "boyish" things, and of course I was all for it since if I had my choice between talking Barbie play or setting up tracks for hotwheels I'd grab the cars.
We always figured a balance was good. She was a bit tomboyish which we didn't give a shit about. But at some point it started to take a different path.
She started to hate anything girly and girls. She started talking about how girls were stupid, etc. she'd throw a fit if we'd call her supergirl vs. superman. She generally started to associate negative things with girls. She'd totally shun hanging out with girls in pre-k.
We're a one kid family and biological grand kids would be nice (yes, I get you can do all sorts of wonderful science and I'm sure that in the future it'd be even easier, fuck the easy way right?) She was born a girl and we felt like we were misdirecting her to cause her angst even at 3-4. The part that bothered us most is that she seemed upset about who she was born as. These were all little opinions formed from her interaction with world. And she was starting to define a gender as negative by it's lack of positive influence in her life.
Again, not that it needs to be stated: I'd still love my daughter to death if she was a lesbian and not give a shit, but we felt too much like we were pushing her into a different gender just by playing along with whatever was fun at the moment. The negativity is what really got our attention. KIDS ARE FUCKING MALLEABLE.
One night when she went to bed we went through and bagged up any and all toys that were strictly "boy" toys and clothes. What we were left with wasn't necessarily 100% girly, but we felt it was close enough. We didn't brow beat her to act or be OK with being a girl. But with the "boyish" toys, clothes books gone. My wife started including her more in a lot of the female type activities and tasks etc. we had to start actively pointing out prominent females with accomplishments. We gradually started to see her shift back to being comfortable with who she was. THE SAME BUT OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF WHAT TRANSGENDER ADULTS COMPLAINED ABOUT FEELING AS A KID.
Several years later and she still is a bit rough and tumble but she gravitates more towards hanging out with girls and has taken a distinctly hetero interest in boys.
The douchebag SJW's will tell you this would have happened anyway. But the, yes, "anecdotal" evidence from our own inadvertent experiment with our daughter told me she was still heavily under environmental influence and is proof enough in my case trying to force gender neutrality or opposition to standard gender roles will cause angst in even a 3 year old.
So take that their step further and let a kid who can't decide what they want to eat for dinner decide they want gender reassignment and start pumping them full of hormones? Remove gender from discussions and pretend it "naturally" wavers back and forth? Now who the fuck has an agenda??!? Any wonder all of that shit is getting pushed for in higher percentage areas of transgender and non-standard sexual orientation populations like San Fran? Of self-serving bias to create more of the same type of people? Gender confused or "fluid" (fuck that term by the way).
My kid was born a girl.
If she wants to play more rough and tumble : fine.
If she likes the color blue over pink : fine.
When we saw her having any gender issues as a kid we steered back towards her biology.
But to ignore that biology and gender don't exist and can be influenced one way or another by social pressure and to CHOOSE to go against 200k years of natural inclination and obvious reproductive organs is social eugenics. Fuck them. It's a SJW agenda.
Replete with emasculation of males in service to what is statistically a biological abnormality.
An abnormality, which is fine by me unless forced (I think there's a lot to the gay-uncle theory of Richard Dawkins ). If you're different than the norm what would make you feel better? Making your template the norm.
Nothing more sinister to me than trying to hijack kids away from their parents and enforce a belief system that undermines individual parental influence.
If you're a fucktard that subscribes to screwing with how your kid was born in order to be seen as progressive to your bisexual gender fluid peers, then it's your gene pool you're fucking with. But keep your values the fuck away from mine. Until a kid naturally progresses without chemical aid through puberty, ANY additional hormones or surgery will change who they would have been. There's a small percentage of instances where there is a reason for hormone therapy (biologically based) but it crosses a line when it's ideology based.
So the war becomes who defines abuse and maltreatment so that they can influence the other kids in the village. I just don't see their dynamic holding up to scrutiny over time.
dr_warlock 10y ago
Why is this being downvoted?
Gentlmen, you are literally witnessing the next phase of systemic indoctrination.
Step one: brainwash the women
Feminism firstwave (Women's suffrage - WWII)
Feminism second wave (WWII- Sexual Revolution in 1960)
Feminism Thirdwave (Power grabbing + gay, beta, and mangina useful idiot allies)
Step 2: Force businneses to submit
Corporate Board and Politcal Female Quotas: Coerced coexistence of the female and PC and lower discourse to the weakest link in the chain with PC nonsense
Step 3: go after the kids
College Campuses (LGBTXYZ..., gender studies, wage slave, and Yes Means Yes)
Step 4: go after the children in a closed, no parent supervision, forced attendance environment
Grade School ( Gender Studies, rare whacky sexual orientation acceptance)
Step 5: go after infants
L0rdMaul117 10y ago
Yes! Once more The Sith will rule the Galaxy!
No no, but yeah. It is quite disturbing.
NecroticFury 10y ago
its useless, men will always be dominant.
Edit: Women's current "power" over men exists in the courts, feminism, white knights, mainstream media, education, and whatever is left of their minds after recent "gender is a social construct" brainwashing sessions. These things are current and based on culture, therefore can be removed at virtually any time. Men created this society and only they can rebuild it at this point. From here on its just a matter of how fast we degrade.
[deleted] 10y ago
Yes, because our biological addiction can be satiated with simple coitus, therefore we are more able to pursue liberation. Whereas the female biological addiction is much more complicated and difficult to satisfy, leaving far less energy for emancipation.
[deleted] 10y ago
Makes me not wanna have any fucking kids, I don't want my children to be influenced by these people.
Squeezymypenisy 10y ago
Their kids will be fuckups. Enjoy poverty.
[deleted] 10y ago
Yes the idea is absurd, but it is not a "trend". These are a tiny group of deranged idiots. The dads are spineless wimps and the mothers are ugly feminists. There is no "trend" here, just some isolated examples of some fucking morons trying to force their degenerate ideas about society onto their children. It is child abuse, it is insanity.
Sdom1 10y ago
There's an post on The Last Psychiatrist that examines this very issue. Here's a couple of great quotes:
He then goes on to say that, while Beck's son's school district forced him to be identified as a boy, she made them let him wear a girl's blouse, which, as TLP points out, is not gender neutral but transvestism.
This fucks up a lot of kids - parents using them to say something about themselves. Dad's a football coach, so his kid has to be the star player. Or Dad plays in a symphony orchestra, so even though his son wants to play football and crack skulls, he isn't allowed to. And so on.
un-affiliated 10y ago
I went back to find the post as soon as I saw this. I think everything that needs to be said is in there. http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/01/couple_reveals_childs_gender_f.html
Also what I think is telling is that every story like this is about a boy being given a female role. What happens if you give a girl army men, take her camping, dress her in jeans and t-shirts? Absolutely nothing, and no one cares. She won't be an outcast and when she hits puberty she'll do more girly stuff and she'll be a "cool girl" and suffer no consequences.
Gender neutral parenting is just a different way of saying you're going to fuck up your son's life as a shitty experiment or to get attention for how progressive you are.
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Yep and good point, always the son who suffers. Fucking misandrists.
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hence why the fucking kid says 'im a boy' AND 'im a girl' he's not fuckin gender fluid you abusive fucks, he's 8 and pretending. Thanks for taking your kid out of the gene pool. You're ilk won't be reproducing.
NecroticFury 10y ago
evidence shows that parents arent much smarter than their children, probably because they are blood related. The only way to stop stupid people is to stop them from reproducing. Forget trying to convince them one way or the other.
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Right, terminating a pregnancy is totally ok, but raising a boy or girl to be a boy or girl is tantamount to abuse. This is how libs think. God I can't wait to get out of CA.
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And the therapist offices just fill up even further.
Uptonogood 10y ago
These offices are filled up with feminist women. Most psychologists and their new age quackery comes from women.
They go there and get even more confused. Hell, they might even incentive this bullshit.
There is a reason why leftist psychology is so against evolutionary psychology and psychoanalysis. It goes against their "everything is a social construct" dogma.
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Men will conquer all those who cannot be men. A band of 50 men armed with nothing but wooden clubs will be able to drive out entire towns if everyone represses their masculinity. Do you really think these vitriol spewing radical feminists understand where authority derives from? I sure don't think they do. Talk is cheap, and for some reason our society is completely forgetting that yelling and screaming without the authority to back it up is nothing more than a screaming child.
One thing I respect about ISIS is that men are banding together to conquer, even if we disagree with why they're doing it, this is the way of the world since the dawn of our ancestors. If we forget to understand this, we will lose entire countries simply because the people would rather be conquered and castrated like sheep than to fight for their survival. Western society is imploding as we move towards the feminine. If a modern day Attila rose up internally in the western countries that cave to the PC movement, the ruling class would be homeless within a week.
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That's true, which is also why I cannot understand the liberal pandering to muslims. Muslims are the most conservative fucking community on earth. There is no group of people anywhere that have more stringent socially conservative beliefs than muslims. Not only that, but muhammad was a conquering warlord who took child brides. I mean, he couldn't fit more into their image of all that is evil and yet they bend over backwards to praise muslims and let them into European countries which they are destroying.
a1004 10y ago
This is as abusive as growing a child on ridiculous crudivorous/vegan/vegetarian diets. As those diets can sometimes be balanced, they are probably too risky for children on their developing years. Just because there is a risk they are not optimal, is a total irresponsibility.
We all know how difficult turns things in life for shorter men, this is the most probably outcome for a vegan born man.
popthatpill 10y ago
This shit is just yet another negative externality of betas: betas don't stand up to the moronic virtue-signalling behaviour of women.
The obvious guess as to why is because they're trying to buy female approval/affection/sex by going along with their every stupid idea.
abdada 10y ago
Ugh if you let xim call ximself "boy" or "girl" you obviously are still part of the Patriarchy. Hopefully xey will grow up to understand there's no need to label xemselves anything but "humyn".
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The next generation of coeds is going to be hilarious when the universities are packed only with career focused women and gender-neutrals.
Get a trade skill, young men.
To be honest, this shit isn't really a part of feminism 1.0. This is pure statism hiding behind the label of feminism. The Jacobins knew all along that the best way to control a man is to make him appear useless to women.
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Of course it's okay to be a career driven woman! But suspectly, the trans are alwaaays the boys. Hm....
redpillbanana 10y ago
Not sure which wave of feminism is responsible for this "gender is a social construct" thinking, but it is definitely a core belief of feminism.
Agreed that feminism is a very useful tool for government. Feminism's encouragement of censorship based on "hurt feelings" is an especially useful tool for government.
abdada 10y ago
With most of college paid for by government subsidizing and guarantee, it is no wonder that even private colleges are now puppets of the state and running the banner slogans.
I'm colleagues with some old school feminism 1.0 bitties and all of them hate the term feminism because "this isn't what we fought for".
None of them look remotely like today's legbeard XXhomosomes blue hair. They look more like Mrs. Brady.
From an employer's perspective, I can't even hire male college graduates anymore -- and I've tried. Their acceptance of the gender neutral everyone equal don't be aggressive mantras makes them useless in a high pressure sales market.
But then again, this is the state's goal. Make more drones in the cubicle who happily pay 60% of their gross income to government. Get them married, get them mortgaged and get them 401K'd so you control them cradle-to-grave.
I'm happy with the outcome. One more yacht, one more vacation vista, one more silver coin I didn't have to work that hard for.
redpillbanana 10y ago
Good point. Not just colleges, but K-12 education as well. The state is basically raising children for 17 years, kindergarten through college. This is why it is so hard to deprogram folks who have swallowed the government kool-aid.
Enjoy the decline.
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I didn't go to college. I think this is why I am so flabbergasted by this shit. It fully smacked me in the face one day when I saw the praise for bruce jenner's body mutilation all over facebook. I was like.... what the fuck happened in the past 10 years.
abdada 10y ago
I'm fine with it all. Creates more suckers to hand brew my coffee. Creates more plebes to cover my 75% off outlet clearance sales. Reduced competition. Enhances my vacations as everyone is now in the service industry.
Good riddance to the middle class. What a mistake that was.
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[deleted] 10y ago
The rules of nature can't be beat no matter how hard we try. Once you understand and align yourself with the law of the land you can prosper.
wanderer779 10y ago
I think some of this is because life has gotten too easy in the west. In '08 I was half hoping they'd let the system fall apart. A lot of BS thinking gets rooted out in tough times. Can you imagine a manspreading campaign while people are standing in bread lines?
raceAround126 10y ago
There is going to be some FUCKED UP kids in the future. I hope the NHS has plenty budget for nut houses.
On the plus side, the myriad of brand new types of psychoses and crime categories should make for some pretty cool psychological horror type movies. Maybe girl goes crazy and kills men to make a penis suit....
ZioFascist 10y ago
welcome to talmudic social programming GOYS!!
shuritsen 10y ago
These gender neutral children will develop psychological trauma from the beatings they'll get from other children, as well as an extreme sense of cognitive dissonance, only reaffirming these genderless kids' belief that their way is the right way.
Humanity is nosediving.
IronMeltsinmyHands 10y ago
I'll say it for everyone.
Shit didn't work in the '70's, it won't work now.
FLFTW16 10y ago
I agree with your conclusion. The more that the system is rigged against hetero men, the more they will check out and opt to become fuckboy Alpha lovers, or, alternatively, MGTOW. The more men wake up and swallow the red pill, the more you will see this gender neutral shit rammed down society's throats. Why? Because they need the support of more betas. They will double down on their ideology and push it to new extremes and brainwash boys even younger because the system needs to be propped up or else it will collapse. Feminized, weak, supplicating, celibate, cuckolded, brow beaten, eunuch males are beneficial to the system that contains ever more parasites that need blood to survive.
alisonstone 10y ago
It's funny looking at the severe cognitive dissonance. Feminist believe that men have it better because of the current social norms (i.e. "The Patriarchy"), but they choose to not let their sons have this supposed advantage. Instead, they do something that will almost certainly result in creating a low functioning social deviant.
I mean, even if you truly believe that society would be better if it were genderless, you can't be stupid enough to think that these genderless people will be well functioning in the status quo. The kid will be bullied and ridiculed. He will have difficulty finding a job. Girls would not want to date him.
Many immigrants choose celebrate Christmas and other western holidays and partake in western culture, despite it being foreign and bizarre to them, because they want their kids to be assimilated with the culture that they will grow up in and will have to function in when they become adults. If you intentionally do the opposite, you are going to create social deviants that cannot function in society.
The parents sure do seem to be enjoying their freak of the week status and they are capitalizing on it by writing books.
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The problem isn't this one kid or these parents, its the fact that it is loudspeakered all over social media, the news, google searches, university courses and pamphlets, and slowly infiltrating our laws. I personally would not spend a second of my time worrying about how parents are abusing their children. Child abuse happens every day all over the world in every country and every city. I simply can't be bothered to care about other individuals personal lives. But when you start to project that on to me, my family, my community and my every day life, is when it becomes a problem. And now I want to join an activist organisation that fights for the rights of 'traditional' humans. Men, women, biological parents, families, etc...
I do not want to live in a world where non-nuclear, non-biological families are considered optimal, and 'non-gendered' individuals are considered normal, and normal humans considered 'backwards' or 'bigoted' or 'cis' or whatever the fuck. I want to live in a normal fucking world. I'm so sick of mainstreaming fringe delusional and dysfunctional aspects of our population. Fucking sick of it. Want to end it.
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All the while believing that they're somehow helping society and therefore maintaining their self-riotousness.
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Some of us are angry because we don't want to lose the very basic aspects of what makes us humans and allows us to lift ourselves up.
I often think to myself "I am a man, a man takes care of business." I had a father who was a magnificent example (not perfect) of what a good, strong husband and father does. I am sick to my stomach that men like my father and families like mine, and sentiments such as "be a man" or "man up" are oppressive or wrong. I am angry that on top of all the other bullshit all of us have to deal with every day, now we have to fight this unnecessary battle to reclaim basic observable, objective aspects of our humanity. I/We just have no fucking time for this shit.
Di-onysos 10y ago
If I were in charge this shit would result in criminal charges for child abuse
Philhelm 10y ago
If I were in charge, the boys would get every GI Joe, Transformer, and He-Man action figure ever made, and a BB gun.
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lol. If I had a boy I'd be like the kung fu master that sneaks up on the student from time to time and kicks his ass unexpectedly.
What_The_Shoe 10y ago
Just give them a .22 rifle when they're 4, an AR-15 when they're 9, and a Ford F-250 when they're 13. And make sure to feed them at least half a pound of steak and 30 fl. oz. of Bud Ice every day.
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I agree with everything but the Bud Ice. Get em on an all meat and vegetable diet and hit the gym instead of beer.
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mystikcal1 10y ago
Beer is love, beer is life.
redpillbanana 10y ago
Good idea. They should also get a mandatory copy of Predator and be required to memorize this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcIjFeWE4fE
Philhelm 10y ago
Let's not forget Aliens and The Terminator. I consider Aliens, Predator, and The Terminator to be the triumvirate of 80's action sci-fi.
redpillbanana 10y ago
Good choices.
I'd also throw in Commando for the one-liners and Running Man, again for the one-liners.
And Rocky IV for Ivan Drago. Heck, throw in all the Rockys except for Rocky V.
I'd also throw in First Blood - great movie about masculinity, authority, and how a country will throw its heroes under the bus.
Damn...now you got me started...
Philhelm 10y ago
The only problem with The Running Man, is that it had a huge, gaping plot hole. Just how did Amber hide the original video?
I actually lived in Bakersfield when I first saw the movie, so that was cool.
OneTrueChaika 10y ago
"Play Stupid Games, and Win Stupid Prizes"
Seriously what the hell is going on inside these
adultsTeenagers with kids heads?What_The_Shoe 10y ago
I'm scared out of my fucking wits now. I never expected feminism to be anything more than a bunch of annoying fatties with problem glasses, but now they're just throwing torches at the wooden platform that is the foundation of society.
Uptonogood 10y ago
Don't worry. Masculine men will always be at the top. You can't reprogram nature like that.
All this does is make it easier for people who know the right things to succeed, because these people are purposely hindering the competition.
Learn TRP, teach your children how to behave like a man, and he is sure to be successful.
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This is not true because technology is replacing our bodies. Pretty soon everything will be automated and simply being strong and resourceful and responsible will not be enough. The state will determine that only children created in labs and adopted by the 'right' parents will be allowed. They will create technology to artificially create children from skin cells or whatever of their "parents", as in two women's skin cells will be used to synthesize a 'genetic' child for them, with no father (although the actual father would be one of the women's father because his dna was passed to the women and would be his genetics that are passed to the offspring (you still need sperm). They will also create technology that will physically alter a persons body so much that they will transplant organs, bone structure, etc.. into people to give them 'sex changes'. Its only gonna get worse. I think humanity will segregate into 'traditional humans' and 'progressives'.
whenfoom 10y ago
Islam is taking over Europe because it has defined gender roles and isn't afraid to punish strictly and brutally. People don't understand the productive energies that are only released when you are in a society that demands you respect it. We Americans have a culture where parents look to their children for guidance. "Do you want pancakes or waffles, sweety?" Of course we have no respect for our society when those responsible for maintaining the culture through time have no backbones. It's not necessary that parents 'know best,' but it is necessary that they act like they know best.
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We care more about our cats and dogs than we care about children or humans in prison, for example. Disgusting.
Heatin 10y ago
Society really is going over the deep end. Can't even imagine how fucked the public school system will be by the time I have a kid
littleteafox 10y ago
Wow, those poor kids. There is a difference between accepting someone who is transgender (who fully understands what gender is, has reached puberty, and feels so deeply that they are willing to undergo expensive and invasive medical treatments to match their brain with their body) and another thing to promote confusion. A young child (Storm was 3 in that article) doesn't really grasp the concept of gender and is easily impressionable. A kid who fluctuates between being a girl one day and a boy the next doesn't really comprehend what that means.
Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 10y ago
Darn straight. A failure of this magnitude with a young child is practically abuse.
But if you ask these idiots, they'll tell you that the very act of teaching children what gender norms are expected of them by society is abuse.
"How dare you repress your child's natural exploration of sex and gender by preparing him for what the real world thinks?! You're just an evil patriarch homophobe who can't deal with a non-binary gender child!"
"Uhh...my kid's 3 and likes shiny things and toy cars. He thinks the difference between boys and girls is whether you draw eyelashes on the happy face."
"Why can't your little boy get lash extensions, shitlord?!?!? And why are you teaching children to draw happy faces differently based on gender? That's abuse. Someone call CPS!"
guest121 10y ago
This is abuse. There is a case (I will look up sources but I'm on the phone now) where following an accident in early chilhood a doctor decided that it's best to reconstruct a vagina instead of a penis. The boy was then raised as a girl. It was a nature vs nurture thing. He was always a misfit. When he got older and found out he had srs to become a man again. Then he married a woman. I don't know why but in the end he commited suicide. It is a very sad story. You cannot beat nature.
popthatpill 10y ago
Sounds like the David Reimer case.
littleteafox 10y ago
Oh wow, that article was horrifying and sad. Especially the "sexual rehearsing" he was forced to do with his brother! Ugh I feel nauseous.
my_sfw_alias 10y ago
A Law and Order: SVU was based on this story. Saw it over 10 years ago, and the story is still disturbing. The creepy doctor putting the kids in sex positions and the kids faces at the end.. How could parents think this was a good idea?
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The fact that a doctor can suggest that a sex change is at all possible, let alone suggest that a prepubescent child should be mutilated and brainwashed into thinking he is a girl is absolutely horrifying. How can you possibly cite science or medicine as the basis for our arguments when the experts in the field can't even back it up?
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AvoidinAnalBeads 10y ago
Not ruined per say, but their lives will be extremely hard.
Uptonogood 10y ago
They cannot change how biology and attraction works. No matter how cucked society is, women will ALWAYS be more attracted to masculine qualities. The alpha will always have his place at the top.
All this bullshit is doing is preemptively removing those children from the sexual market competition. You could even say all this shit is good for TRP men.
richnutz 10y ago
I think this too. I think it will be incredibly damaging to boy but not that much to girl. The reason is cause a girl just has to be a bit pretty and guys will like her no matter what.
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Yeah because guys will fuck a tom boy who's got tits and ass, but girls won't fuck a trans confused guy because they don't care as much about the body as they do about social standing etc.
[deleted] 10y ago
I wonder how long it is until they convince him he should cut his balls off. After all, a male puberty would do a lot of damage to their precious "girl"
Uptonogood 10y ago
Well, there's been a few cases of parents pushing for gender transition "treatment" as early as 10. A little kid and already taking hormones.
cue to female psychologists diagnosing gender dysphoria in every male.
NecroticFury 10y ago
yea that should be akin to drugging your children. Im sure it is borderline illegal practice in most places.
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redpillbanana 10y ago
Unfortunately their unshakable belief in feminist theory causes them to try - on their poor children.
100% agree. These parents are relegating their unfortunate boys to the bottom of the totem pole
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Which is a kind of perverse form of natural selection when you think about it.
redpillbanana 10y ago
Interesting take on it. If you're stupid enough to believe in gender neutral parenting, then your kids are the end of your genetic line.
my_sfw_alias 10y ago
A lot of kids do a 180 from their parents backward lifestyle and teaching. Hopefully this guy becomes the most embodied form of masculine to escape this social experiment. I hope for his sake it doesn't involve running away from home at age 14.
rcglinsk 10y ago
The power of ideology to hack and override basic biological instincts is kind of frightening. Reading this post I was reminded of something from Free Northerner
[deleted] 10y ago
Dude, I feel like I'm constantly battling my biology. Aren't we all?
TRP has helped me see that the basic root desire within me for tight young pussy isn't necessarily a flaw but rather an evolutionary fundamental trait that can be satiated without guilt
[deleted] 10y ago
The problem is ideology doesn't override biological instincts. It represses them. The the repression basically slow cooks them into festering mental illnesses.
NecroticFury 10y ago
thank god. somebody has to be going crazy throughout all of this.
sgt-pepper12345 10y ago
My RP'd GF confided in me that she'd always felt too ashamed to admit in public that she cared far more about being a wife and mother than about her career, which I found pretty sad.
I think modern feminism is making both genders increasingly wary and embarrassed to express what truly drives them, and the further these 3rd wavers push, the deeper the push back from the culturally moderate centre ground will become. Fewer and fewer people already consider themselves 'feminist' already.
bigthrowaway23 10y ago
My current GF expressed the same thing to me and it was one of the saddest things I've heard. She actually felt ashamed for wanting to grow up to be a housewife...it's a fucking shame.
L0rdMaul117 10y ago
"Her eldest son, Jazz"
And that's all I need to know. Naming your son Jazz.... I mean, wow millennial generation. We really are a fucked up bunch.
CuntyMcFagNuts69 10y ago
Do you even Fresh Prince bro?
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That was his DJ name, not the name his mama gave him.
my_sfw_alias 10y ago
You saw how Uncle Phil treated Jazz! Tossed out the door! Don't feel bad though, I used to see him driving through Philly in a gold plated Lexus truck- He's doing alright.
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jerry_rigger 10y ago
Anyone else think Jazz is gonna be the next Buffalo Bill a la Silence of the Lambs?
Thursday088 10y ago
Those poor fucking kids.
First they name the kid Jazz, then they just bypass any form of structured parenting. They don't even realize how hard they are fucking up their children. I knew a few home-schooled kids that jumped to public school in late Middle School/High School, and to say these kids had it hard is an understatement.
I can't even imagine how these kids are going to cope. And the parents will turn it around and blame it on society as a whole.
whenfoom 10y ago
Men need to be willing to tell others - most others - "you aren't in a position to make an intelligent decision about this."
CuntyMcFagNuts69 10y ago
Fuck all that. If I decide to go the kid route, my son will be out helping me gather firewood and helping me work on the truck. I don't have cable tv and never will. Disney will not tell my kid mediocrity is OK.
L0rdMaul117 10y ago
Eh, sounds kinda lame and boring.
CuntyMcFagNuts69 10y ago
Those were examples. I snowboard, record music, play 7 instruments. I was saying if my kids has a penis dangling from his crotch area, I will raise him as such. A 5 year old doesn't identify, it learns from its environment
L0rdMaul117 10y ago
Okay, yeah. Boys are boys and should be treated as such. I agree.
Kite23 10y ago
Fucking ridiculous. Can't believe this stupid crap is dooming kids before they even learn to walk. The world does not have genderless order. It's a jungle and you need to play out to your biological part to excel.
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Imagine a future where the Western world depends on a couple of generations of emasculated, confused, young she-men like Jazz for the defense of our homeland.
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What_The_Shoe 10y ago
Quick, send them to North Korea and Russia so they can eat away at the societal infrastructure there and prevent them from being a potent threat themselves.
Uptonogood 10y ago
In Russia, supposedly school is really survival of the fittest. You either survive to become a badass stereotype Russian, or more likely become a drunkard.
L0rdMaul117 10y ago
Jazz has been forever subjected to Delta male status. Jazz will go through is formative years, and young adult years having lots of female "friends" and forever being friendzoned. While his male counter parts named Jack, John, Eric, Paul, Chris, Tyler and so forth smash tons of poon.
When Jazz reaches adult hood both physically and mentally (around 25) expect major cognitive dissonance and him either hating all females and/or becoming gay.
redpillbanana 10y ago
...and if Jazz ever swallows the pill, he'll disown his parents for screwing up his life.
L0rdMaul117 10y ago
Jazz needs to really be exposed to male centric and masculine things. Football, camping/shooting guns, martial arts. I mean, if not. He has no chance at being a confidant and sexually appealing male in the future.
I_Wear_Jorts5 10y ago
Or becoming extremely depressed/suicidal
It seriously boggles my mind that there are "parents" out there letting their children, who are barely able to add and subtract, be in control of their "gender." It's gotten to the point where some kids are getting put on hormone treatment therapy before they hit puberty. It's madness. I thought "ninja" was a legitimate occupation when I was 7. Imagine if my parents sent me to Japan so I could follow this career path...
L0rdMaul117 10y ago
Hahaha. That made me laugh bro. I needed that. Ninja, ffs. But yeah, it's true. They're failing their child, but I guarantee you that the father is such a bitch and weak. He's probably really, really liberal and PC and never been in a fight in his life. I mean, I just can't see as a man letting your wife do this to your son. I just can't.
Uptonogood 10y ago
Sending a kid through hellish martial arts training so he can be a strong and independent man doesn't seem so bad actually. Sparta had something like that.
I_Wear_Jorts5 10y ago
I guess it's a better alternative than assuming your 7 year old son wants to be a girl because he thinks dresses are cool
razorwan 10y ago
This is just liberal ideology trying to push itself into the norm. Gender-neutral parenting isn't, hasn't, and never will be the natural way of things. The only kind of man who entertains this idea is a mangina willing to push his edgy libertard ideology on a defenseless kid who has no idea about these concepts.
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But they are making laws and school curriculum that push this on your children. They are spreading this on as wide a swathe of the population as possible, as often as possible, for as long as possible. The fact that we are hearing about this already means its more widespread of a problem than we realize.
forgtmnot 10y ago
While I certainly wouldn't go so far as the whole gender neutral route where they don't even know if they are a boy or a girl, I wouldn't restrict my children to 100% pre-scripted roles either.
If my mini-me wants to play with a kitchen set, try to hammer in a screw with a rubber mallet, decide it's time to vacuum the house, then run around covered in mud... screw it it's fun for them. I do slant activities a little towards neutral when it comes to life-skills because in my mind girls should be taught in what direction to turn a screwdriver and boys should be taught by their parents know how to at least boil water. On the flip-side I'm not going to cram five courses of social neutrality down their throats until they're ostracized by their peers either.
Except for comics, all offspring must love comics and have a favorite super hero by five even if it kills them.
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