TL;DR- A newer plate has issues with an older plate and tries to cause problems.
“…And Lucy Tries Harder”
I ...had a plate named Lucy.
Bright blonde, blue-eyed definition of submission.
One of those “quiet as a church-mouse" types. The one’s that speak real soft and always look at their feet when they speak.
Lucy was jealous of Fine China (another plate).
To be more specific, Lucy was jealous of how FC looked.
Lucy'd seen one of FC's racier pictures on my phone. Fine China’s better looking and she knows it.
So she gets insecure. Comfort tests increase. “Am I enough for you?” “Why me?” Etc. etc. My plates know about each other so whatever. They just never bump into each other (Except Candy and FC but that’s something else).
At least until last night.
Fine China makes Katsudon (my favorite). She comes over and we eat. Lucy texts and asks if I’m available.
Om: no
Lucy asks why.
Om: busy
She begs. She pleads. Says that she has to see me tonight.
Om: chinas here
More begging. More pleading. I put my phone on silent. Me and Fine China get busy.
Not 10 minutes in there’s a knock at the door. Already know who it is. We ignore it. Another knock. We ignore it again.
By the third knock I’d had it. I answer the door. Guess who.
She just stood in the doorway. She just stares at her feet. Like a guilty puppy-dog. Doesnt say a word. Maybe she was cold.
”I’m busy.”
She asks if FC’s still here.
”Yes.”
She pours out this long. winded. schpeel. about some hoorrible thing some sleazy guy had done at the party just left.
The "horrible thing" was vague and ill-defined. Still don't know what it was.
Question 1: Does the oddly-convenient the timing of this “traumatic incident” and how it just so happened to take place immediately following her knowledge of FC being over fall under mere coincidence or as a means of justification of action?
a) Justification. It would be difficult for anyone to rationally believe that level of coincidence in timing and to overlook such an obvious plea for validation.
b) Coincidence. You weren’t there so you never know.
c) Neither. She just thinks you’re stupid.
(the correct answer was A.)
She makes a comment about Fine China.
“She’s pretty.”
Translation: She makes me feel insecure. Not used to being outclassed I guess.
“And?”
She asks to come in. Says she won’t say or do anything. That she just doesn’t want to be alone or at home.
Truth is she wants to cunt-block Fine China. I tell her
“No. Go home.”
Gaslighting comes next. She tries to guilt trip. “So you would leave some poor traumatized girl out in the cold when she needs you?”
…I close the door.
Standing there and talking to her would be giving her exactly what she wanted: giving her attention over FC.
And I’m not pissed nor surprised by it. Just sort of… done.
She knew what she was doing was crazy. No need to reaffirm that for her.
I come back and Fine China makes some snide remark, something about thirsty bitches and not enough Gatorade. I don’t respond.
We finish where we left off, she leaves after. I check my phone. 12 missed calls. 8 text messages. All from Lucy.
The first few texts were pretty aggressive and “gaslight-y”. Yadda yadda, I thought you were a better man than that. Blah blah, a real man wouldn’t treat a girl like that.
Then the comfort tests.
“…but I always know how to fuck shit up. Cuz that’s what I do. That’s who I am.” “I’m a pain in the ass and someone that no one wants. Someone that is worthless and replaceable.”
What killed me though (although it didn’t surprise me) was how not one of her texts gave any inkling of an apology. No “I’m sorry for showing up unannounced, but..” or “sorry for interrupting, but…”.
All she did was play the “victim”:
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I’m a pain in the ass
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someone that no one wants
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Someone that is worthless and replaceable
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some poor traumatized girl out in the cold
- doesn’t want to be alone
Question 2: Why didn’t Lucy admit or acknowledge guilt over her reckless, impulsive and sporadic behavior? (Experienced RPers, please don’t answer.)
a) Because she’s crazy.
b) Because she’s menstruating so it’s okay.
c) Because what she did was okay. Women should get a pussy pass because women are special and should always be treated with respect and chivalry.
d) Because she doesn’t feel guilty. And that’s the point. She felt justified. She felt bad not being the prettiest, she didn’t like it, she’s the most important person ever (to her) and so she was gonna do something about it and sort it all out later. So she came over with the specific purpose of cunt-blocking the girl that made her feel bad, failed, saw no fault in her actions but fault in us for not “sympathizing” with her.
(The correct answer was D.)
I step outside to smoke.
Surprise surprise. Lucy’s still in the parking lot.
I don’t look in her car’s direction. I finish my smoke, lock my doors, ignore my phone and sleep.
Lesson Learned
“Treat every woman like a loaded gun”.
All it took for Lucy was to know that the another woman being “prettier than her” for shit to get psychotic. You never know how light a gun’s trigger will be. You never know what might set it off. And we’re not Neo.
The only way for us to dodge a bullet is to point the gun away from us.
Consider Lucy nexted.
poochman 10y ago
Why in the world would you even respond to that text? When a girls asks if I'm busy and I am, they get a text the next day stating that. I thought that was basic RP.
ApiVat 10y ago
Dude I just love your stories and the values they provide. Please keep em coming
Regularguygamebrah 10y ago
Ommy. You cold bro.
This is why I'm 3 mns into TRP and I'm not jumping into spinning plates. You gota have it internalized to lvl Ommy if you think you can dog bitches the way this guy does. And if you don't have your framed dialed into Ommy, the quiet church girl will do everything to ruin your life.
Shit is real out here. Good point LaLa.
mrpCamper 10y ago
Who wants to bet that Lucy is also dating some beta bux guy who wanted to become exclusive and this was her last ditch effort to get OmLaLa to commit before committing with the second place prize?
RP-Doctor 10y ago
Hmmm... a "quiet as a church-mouse" girl who happens to be a dating and fucking a known "player" who doesn't commit. Certainly fits the bill.
RojoEscarlata 10y ago
It's a stereotype at this point.
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cucumber_vaccine 10y ago
Have you heard the phrase "extinction burst"? It describes this phenomenon perfectly: http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/07/07/extinction-burst/
fingerthemoon 10y ago
Just what I needed to read right now. Thanks.
notevenatthestart 10y ago
That's an excellent contribution; thanks for posting it. It's a phenomenon everyone knows about but it's very useful to see it laid out and discussed there. I don't know if it's already been covered but I think it'd make a good post of its own, tied in with this and expanded to include habit-forming behaviours in the "monk mode" phase.
cucumber_vaccine 10y ago
Thanks for the push, but I am not far enough through my own monk phase to give good advice about how to beat extinction bursts.
An_All-Beef_Engineer 10y ago
/u/omlala didn't you question her sanity at this point? That is insane.
EnragedParrot 10y ago
Surprised you didn't tell her she could stay if she didn't speak and joined in the fun.
That was the first thought I had.
Though in hindsight, it may have rewarded her behavior.
Shit.
SickSadWorId 10y ago
OP why did you say
what's wrong with saying "working" or "busy with family" they always work for me. It's just that telling a plate I'm busy with another plate is the last thing I would want to do.
Its_the_other_tj 10y ago
Not op but I used to do this. My gotos were family stuff or guys nights. Worked for a long time. 2 reasons not to do it. 1 You can slip if you forget what bs excuse you gave last time (or the dozen other times, they are keeping notes... Trust me) and 2 if they are ever around your friends/know your friends and or family they might start to probe them or their lady friends (so did they have a fun night out shooting pool?). Long story short the fewer actual lies you tell the easier it is to keep everything strait. Bonus points for it making the woman want you more if she doesn't go off the rails like OPs plate did.
EnragedParrot 10y ago
Plus - telling a lie puts you in THEIR frame.
Telling the truth reinforces YOUR frame.
fuck em. This is what I'm doing - I ain't lookin for your approval.
TheThingsIThink 10y ago
this is where you let Lucy slip off the spinning stick and break, correct?
OmLaLa 10y ago
Right. Long as FC's in the picture there will be problems.
haxurmind 10y ago
Or any woman IMO, it seems like Lucy is not interested in sharing. FC just happens to be the particular woman you were with at the time of this drama.
huge_gap 10y ago
Fucking hilarious and on point as usual. I'm sure she'll find her way home in a few days/weeks when her orbiter/fuck buddy list is exhausted.
redarkane 10y ago
The fuck did I just read? You sound like a sociopath..
Pantomeme 10y ago
His body, his life, he owes nothing to anyone else. No one is another person's property. If we can thank feminism for anything it's for driving that point home to men – message received, thank you. The sociopath here is the woman stalking OP, and you think that behaviour should be rewarded?
redarkane 10y ago
I don't think it should be rewarded. I just think that OP is a sociopath with mommy issues.
RPsage 10y ago
You have good taste in food, katsudon is amazing.
Letsbeserioushere 10y ago
Girls pull the "I'm a traumatised victim, help!" card all the time. In the case you outlined, closing the door on her was the right thing to do.
However, what would you do in situations where an indifferent next would have negative social repercussions?
For example, people see you walking away from a princess in distress and resent you for it. You now have people who will talk shit about you and try to damage your reputation. Rationalising out of this doesn't work because white-knights and feminism, and walking away from these people may not be possible (e.g if they work/attend Uni with you).
Reading the 48 Laws of Power has me thinking about these issues more. OmLaLa, how would you approach this?
SickSadWorId 10y ago
You have to look at the bigger picture and see what actions would lead to social repercussions, and avoid that scenario. 'not dropping plates in public' is probably great advice.
CornyHoosier 10y ago
Outside of college ... no one gives a shit about social repercussions. As long as you're not on Facebook talking shit about blind, crippled, retarded children on Christmas; you'll likely stay out of the public eye.
Plus, I learned to keep a low profile. For instance: my next door neighbor doesn't even know my name, my job is so secure/locked-down they won't even verify with someone I work there, I have no social media, I change my phone number and email pretty often through Google and none of my friends will give two seconds of thought to some crazy woman who would try and slander me.
notevenatthestart 10y ago
You don't put yourself in a position where "people who will talk shit about you" have an effect on your life. You don't get involved with anyone at work and you make sure you're active in a number of different social groups, so at worst the damage is compartmentalised.
Obviously work and university aren't the same in this regard, and it'd be absurd to suggest avoiding all girls at your university, but it might make sense to keep things entirely professional with the hot girl in your seminars if having her spread gossip about you in the future could adversely affect your studies and your future career.
No one law of power is entirely relevant here where the rule is the basic principle of "limit your exposure", but there are echoes of it in law 20 ("do not commit to anyone") tempered by law 18 ("do not build fortresses to protect yourself- isolation is dangerous"). Law 5 ("so much depends on reputation") isn't so relevant in this case, where the reputation is a local one. Law 47 ("do not go past the mark you aimed for; in victory learn when to stop") is useful too; the hot girl in the seminar could be going too far. Best just to have her wanting you and leave it there.
1v1mebruh 10y ago
I think the common answer for your proposed situation has been "feign weakness and BP unattractiveness to get her to next you". Doesn't sound fun but definitely has the least fallout.
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ErasmusOrgasmus 10y ago
/u/OmLaLa has this encouraged you to reconsider allowing your plates to know about each other?
Personally, this kind of unnecessary drama is exactly why I operate a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy whenever I've had multiple plates or a plate + ONSs. Allowing Lucy to see a picture of a hotter plate on your phone was asking for trouble.
max_peenor 10y ago
They always seem to find out about each other in the long run. You have to be happy with breaking the lot and starting over every six months or juts dealing with the consequences. And perhaps the cost of restraining orders...
ErasmusOrgasmus 10y ago
No doubt. If they find out about each other in the end then you just deal with it but it's not something you want to happen.
My point is that OP was open about it and that was really the root cause of this drama (which could have ended much worse). Why not just keep your mouth shut about your other women and live in peace for as long as possible? I see no benefit in being openly forthcoming with the truth in this scenario, you're asking for trouble.
fingerthemoon 10y ago
He was strait up showing her pictures of FC on his phone, telling her she was at his house right now, provoking crazy.
Looks like an overuse of preselection and dread. Heavy handed imo.
OmLaLa 10y ago
Nah. Knowing of each others cool. It's the meeting and greeting that'll fuck things up.
MarvelousWhale 10y ago
I was caught of guard when I read you had opened the door.
I wouldn't have answered the door, would have texted her that I walked to the park with fine china for the night, or said china picked you up to visit at her place, or something along those lines that would have suggested she is wasting her time knocking on your door since you weren't home.
Has the added benefit of explaining why your car might still be in the parking lot near your house.
ErasmusOrgasmus 10y ago
You admitted that she only turned up because she knew your other girl was hotter and she wanted to fuck shit up with her. This can't happen when she doesn't even know the other girl exists.
I think you're creating a rod for your own back by being open with them.
Regularguygamebrah 10y ago
I think this guys game, SMV and frame are so tight you can't even imagine a world where he handles bitches in the manner that he actually does.
Lucky lefty expects a seven. To be as confident as Ommy, you have to be that confident. No halfsteppin.
freeman84 10y ago
But don't you think that by telling Lucy that FC was over, instead of staying vague, with being "busy", you incited the whole drama to occur in the first place?
OmLaLa 10y ago
Maybe. The truth's better dread game though. I don't hide being with women from women. Teaches them they're not so special (least not to me).
CornyHoosier 10y ago
Exactly. No need to hide anything if you're truthful/blunt.
fingerthemoon 10y ago
I think your real mistake was opening the door. That was validation in and of itself. You already knew she be crazy from all the text and calls.
aguy01 10y ago
She will fill in the blanks with her crazy imagination. In my experience open discussion forces them to address the issue, and they will be down or go crazy, but they last longer and with better behavior when you are vague and don't admit or deny. Just my opinion.
fingerthemoon 10y ago
I with you on that one. There are other ways to teach them their not special without triggering jealousy directly. It's one thing if she suspects and another if she knows. Just asking for trouble like in OP.
Let them know you're not committed and that should be enough. If she sees you with someone then she was warned. Letting her know you're with another girl RIGHT NOW like OP did will stir the crazy.
Another thing, how did she see the picture of FC? Don't you lock your phone, or just showing off to increase your smv in her eyes. Sounds like dangerous games to me.
FrameWalker 10y ago
Totally expected the threesome
GOATmar 10y ago
a girl throws herself at your door like she did and you choose to "next" her for a post on reddit? bruh
you should have thought long term fam. she said she wanted to see you, okay sick. you should have set up a get together with friends and invited Lucy, and had china tag along too.
given that they are both plates, and china isn't your GF, they are still earning your love and long-term commitment. they were gonna go all night trying to win you over. and from the sound of it, china was the likely winner, and yall would have had VOLCANIC sex at the end of the night. or even better, lucy would have been so tingly, you could have pushed for the trio and they would have been down.
by curving Lucy for the china plate, you just inflated the fuck out of china's ego by spending all night with her over socializing. expect unnecessary resistance/testing for shit on china's part now.
this whole scenario was played WAY too seriously when you should have been aloof and fun about it.
when she texted you all that shit, you should have replied "are you auditioning for a soap opera?" then run standard charming text game to eliminate her drama-seeking frame. and put her on a more sexual/flirty vibe, possibly tease a threesome vibe while you're at it. then got her to come over.
then, first thing i would done was either open the door and start attacking her with pillows and offer her a drink right after.
or open the door and said "no thank you i've already found thy lord & savior bye" and had a good laugh. then hugged her real nice to escalate, hands on her waist with sharp eye contact and a smirk and then run standard charm on them until i got ready to go.
arghx7 10y ago
Why were you answering Lucy's texts while you were with another girl? You could have just ignored them at the time. Do you respond so quickly and frequently that she expects you to be always available?
OmLaLa 10y ago
Dude c'mon. I wrote the book on baking texts.
CornyHoosier 10y ago
I had a woman try something similar to Lucy.
She then proceeded to yell outside my window at 2:00am and key'd my car when I wouldn't let her in. Why? Because she was drunk and "really wanted to fuck" and I was being an asshole for not letting her in my home.
I swear ... she called me the next morning to see if I was sorry for being an asshole to her. I hung up the call and got the police out to do a report and submitted it to insurance. The stupid ass literally texted me that she key'd my car so I just showed that to the cops.
The best part was when the deputy who came out to write the report told me I needed to get better at "filtering out the crazies".
Kathulos 10y ago
I can't help but wonder if he would have been so callous with a female victim of domestic violence. Now listen dear you need to get better at filtering out the abusers. Edit:spelling
Borsao66 10y ago
Just because a gun has a suppressor doesn't mean its safe to point it at yourself. Just saying. /s
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doublereignbeau 10y ago
He isn't messing with people. He isn't playing games with her. She set up a trap and he dodged it. End of story.
He was in the middle of a date and refused to let someone intrude upon the evening.
mtl_dood 10y ago
He's dating 2 girls at the same time. Why did he show Lucy racy pics of the other one. He made her insecure on purpose.
He refers to the girls as plates. OP fancies himself a PUA. It's all fine. I might not agree with what he does, but to each his own.
The problem is that he is posting this stuff in red pill. If he posts it in seduction, there is no problem. But why is it in red pill. The two categories are not the same. OPs behavior is not red pill. From start to finish. There is no reason we should be calling women plates in red pill. I hope you do realize this. Because doing this harms our community.
Being alpha and having control over yourself does not mean degrading or taking advantage of others or women. When red pill is criticized and shit on, they use examples like this. And it's totally justified, because this is what many people, including on this sub, seem to think that red pill is. But its not.
Think of the most stereotypical male role model that you can find. Even if he is fictional. Think Batman or James Bond if it helps you. If they did shit like this you would think they were douchebags and their red pill status would drop. They would never resort to scams like this to fuck with minds.
doublereignbeau 10y ago
Om has never dated only 2 girls at the same time. In fact, for the sake of research he once dated over 100 girls inside of a month and posted results on trp.
TRP is merely having an awareness of female nature. You are thinking MGTOW. Batman is MGTOW because he goes his own way and does not live for nor have time for women. An alpha in nature presides over a large number of females. Think lions, apes, or walruses.
LeonZan 10y ago
As BS are your posts sound, I find them entertaining.
Try harder
tibialsyndesmosis 10y ago
I wonder what effect this encounter had on FC
Swanksterino 10y ago
If FC is as fine as OP alludes to, none, and she's probably also spinning a few plates herself.
TRPShill 10y ago
she didnt seem very threatened by the other girl
Swanksterino 10y ago
not at all, she probably didn't GAF. She's got a line around the block. My point.
TRPShill 10y ago
I agree. Not common behavior. Definitely spinning, probably very attractive
Swanksterino 10y ago
And good for her, and OP, this is probably the prescription for a long relationship.
tibialsyndesmosis 10y ago
And I'd bet this isn't the first time she made an ex girl psychotic. My guess, women are deeply intimidated by very attractive peers.
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Drogba006 10y ago
Just a few more details.
How old are you? How old are the girls? What is it that brings you value that allows you to get away with these things towards the girls?
Not just any guy can do this, I'm interested to know a bit of how you got to the point where you're shutting the door in a crazy bitches face and she still wants it.
jonathan_c 10y ago
You're wrong. Any guy can shut a door in any girl's face in this situation, and she will react the exact same way. Female nature, AWALT, etc. Her behavior had nothing to do with OP's qualities (see how you're in a way deflecting blame for her actions off of her and on to OP?).
Its_the_other_tj 10y ago
I don't think he's asking "how can you do this" in an accusatory way. More like how can i reach the level where I have a beautiful girl in my home and another girl is trying desperately to take her spot. How to be that wanted. My best guesses for funsies. Lucy is young (early 20s) FC is slightly older (mid 20s) and OP is slightly older then both (late 20s early 30s). The answer to the last question is strait red pill side bar stuff. Work out, dress well, maintain frame, be confident, get comfortable talking to women, etc etc.
Drogba006 10y ago
You got the tone. It wasn't accusatory
Drogba006 10y ago
I see the way I wasn't deflecting, because I was asking from a place of curiosity, not attacking his credentials
EnragedParrot 10y ago
Can you understand how the choice of phrasing (bolded words) could infer tone/paradigm/perspective regarding Omlala's actions?
Mind, I'm not accusing you either, just trying to show how perspective shines through in the words/phrasing we use.
And to reiterate what others have said, it really comes down to owning yourself, and valuing yourself above the antics of women/anyone.
Someone who is self-possessed is attractive - to both genders.
PS. I've worked with and for some incredible leaders, and even as a hetero male I recognize their allure.
Drogba006 10y ago
I'm interested in his process
EDIT: I know what I wrote. This is the internet, so when I question someone it means I'm attacking their platform until otherwise stated.
If I could go back, I'd write the same thing
EnragedParrot 10y ago
Ok, you want it that way?
I was giving you an out before, but not now: you were attacking with those words, and your weasle words just now are more evidence of it.
Own it.
Drogba006 10y ago
I wasn't attacking. But keep on keepin' on. Alpha male
sampson158 10y ago
When lucy said
and then asked to come in...
you should have said, "Well, we're about to get naked so unless you want to join us you need to go home."
She might have said yes. (course you would have to see if fine china was into it first) (also, no I'm not serious, lucy would likely have left at that invite)
EnragedParrot 10y ago
Ummm, no. Her option would be to leave in that scenario.
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BlackFallout 10y ago
I just wanted to say good job. I hope I don't lose frame when my time comes.
massivewang 10y ago
Isn't the answer to question number 2:
Both A & D.
She's crazy and feels justified.
Hemp420 10y ago
The correct answer to mutiplec choice questions is the best answer. Answer D explains answer A and also applies conceptual knowledge; therefore it is the correct answer.
runnerrun2 10y ago
Crazy when she is doing what women are designed to do?
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massivewang 10y ago
It's not meant to be dismissive.
Some bitches are crazy, clinically diagnosed crazy. Some are BPD, some have narcissistic personality disorder, etc.
I've seen a good friend date CRAZY bitches. I've also seen him date not crazy women. There is quite a difference in the way they behave. One set pulls all kinds of crazy ass stunts as noted in the story, the other set does not.
Yes the tenants of game are true, dread, hypergamy, preselection, etc, I'm not arguing that. What I'm saying is that there are women who aren't crazy who don't pull stunts like this.
EnragedParrot 10y ago
Just cause they haven't pulled stunts like this in your presence doesn't mean they aren't crazy.
massivewang 10y ago
True, but again not every woman is has narcissistic personality disorder, is bi-polar, etc.
There's AWALT and then there's being clinically crazy, and not all women are clinically crazy. This is spoken by someone who has a narcissistic mother. If I told you a tenth of the shit she's done in my lifetime you wouldn't believe it.
EnragedParrot 10y ago
I think when we say "crazy" we really should be saying "even more irrational than the next woman".
You know, the one who goes yelling and screaming at you in public, or keys your car, would fuck you and then cry rape to get back at you.
Not clinical crazy - that's a whole 'nother set of issues.
IronMeltsinmyHands 10y ago
i love your posts. always so educational and entertaining. you're like... Bill Nye the science guy. except, for redpill.
Suravira 10y ago
People are probably gonna push for the threesome angle, but you've already said it, FC is hotter than Lucy, being considered for the threesome and thus a higher position in your life is a reward, you don't reward her because she's acting out about her position in the totem pole, you reward them for contributing and doing what you tell them to.
It would be different if Lucy pushed for the threesome because it would mean she's trying to fight for your affections, but she's probably so used to being waited on hand and foot that she expects to get her way in that you change your plans with FC for her.
Also, is FC a Jap or just cooks katsudon because you like it? Either way quality plate material
Great FR as always Om, always interesting to see the inner mechanics of a soft harem.
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jason1009 10y ago
Being "prettier" is an immediate freak out to some women but it's a branch in the tree of "another woman being better".
A long time ago, a woman told me she wanted to see other dudes. I said go for it, but I was going to see other girls. A few months go by and she asks if I'm dating. I respond of course. She starts asking questions. Once the word DOCTOR comes out of my mouth, she IMMEDIATELY starts the "let's get together" game. She wants to come see me, she wants to cook for me, she wants to hang out, she wants to stop seeing other dudes, everything. I kinda shrug her off into oblivion and feel extremely grateful for doing so.
DonaldJTrump2k16 10y ago
What do you think she was honestly expecting? Was she expecting you to come to her rescue like a good white knight beta would? Had you even given any hint of you stooping to such a low level to her to where she thought this was a good idea?
Wish we got more posts like this. Educational and a good read that is interactive for the person reading it.
notevenatthestart 10y ago
I've said it before, but OmLaLa's posts really ought to be required reading. If you haven't already read it, his "Such is My Nature" from 7 months ago is a classic, both because of what it says and how he draws the reader into thinking about it by writing an allegory.
makethemsayayy 10y ago
Yeah I have the feeling she wanted to play the game and win, then would get bored of him once he did stoop to him. That's female nature, destroy and move on.
sundaybrunch11 10y ago
Honest question /u/OmLaLa :
What if when she came to the door, you give her a little bit of comfort and tell her that you'll meet at a later date. The purpose of which is to give her some assurance. You're still maintaining frame at all times of course.
MattyAnon Admin 10y ago
This isn't a comfort test. The being-upset is leverage and manipulation, not a problem you could ever fix. Give her an inch and she'll take a mile, and the one after that.
ether_reddit 10y ago
Speaking as a former semi-hottie plate * who pulled this kind of shit occasionally, she did what she did because no one's ever called her on it and told/shown her that that's not okay behaviour. In other words -- it's always worked in the past, so it's been internalized as normal.
* semi-hottie days long gone. Settled down, found RP and look back on those days with horror, eyes now wide open.
Drogba006 10y ago
It reminds me of something Patrice would say along the lines of "giving women another option on how to think, they don't consider a plan B in their mind because they've never had to"
Avicenna1 10y ago
There are women on this sub? This the funniest shit ive seen
Edit: then again there are male feminists so its not that outlandish
ether_reddit 10y ago
Crazily enough, when women stop acting like lunatics, they manage to blend into the crowd just fine :)
antariusz 10y ago
You blend in like hunter orange in the forest.
You went exactly ZERO posts without loudly announcing the fact that you are a woman and therefore an EXPERT on ALL matters pertaining to women.
I fixed your post.
If you were a man, you would have been expected to post it JUST like that. But you didn't, because you're a woman, and you CRAVE the validation. AWALT (EVEN THE ONES POSTING ON TRP)
You know why you didn't post it like that? Because it wasn't a very interesting comment, you might have gotten 4-5 upvotes at the most.
Also, besides that, it's actually terrible advice. It is NOT OP's job to FIX this plate's behavior. Engaging with her and "showing her the error of her ways" does not actually fix it. It just makes her SMARTER and MORE MANIPULATIVE. It does not actually change the underlying motivations.
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ether_reddit 10y ago
Uh, hardly. I've been contributing to this sub for months. I didn't claim to be an expert on anything, not even this thing. I merely had something relevant to relate.
I didn't say it was.
Calm down, cowboy.
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OmLaLa 10y ago
Just do your thing. Don't pick these fights. You'll blend back in. You're a sheep among wolves. Hide your wool.
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Avicenna1 10y ago
This is seriously hilarious^^^ are u not put off by the misogyny Downvote me virgin faggots u know this sub is misogynic as fuck
ether_reddit 10y ago
There's jerks everywhere; I try to pay more attention to the people who can string a sentence together properly.
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OrangeCub 10y ago
Thanks for sharing the FR. Lucy massively exposed her psychological problems, all just by you standing your ground. Indeed, way to dodge that bullet.
dr_warlock 10y ago
If you do not placate to her whims, she will settle for chaos. She does not care about what is being said, only thay you remain present and engage. Every second beyound a simple exit is validation, it's dignifying her feelings with your energy and response. It shows that her nonsense is worth entertaining. Women can only stir up drama when you give them an emotion to work with. They'll warp it, expand it, and transform it to whatever her feelz desire in order to create more feelz. Eventually, she'll attempt to end the fiasco by pinning the blame on you and come out on top as the good guy, you the bad guy. Don't give it to them. Women can't continue without an emotion to work with. Do not argue with women.
edit: /u/omlala please tell me you're dropping the bitch? This is unacceptable behavior. What gets me is that if a man were to do this, he would have the police called on him (who would have arrived promptly) for stalking and harassment, accussed of being a butthurt creepy loser who wasnt good enough and needs to get over it.
makethemsayayy 10y ago
Warlock you know women to a fucking T. Not sure how the fuck you can articulate shit so well
OmLaLa 10y ago
Yeah no Lucy's donezo. Got her texts and voicemails for backup. Just in case. The girl's wicked unstable.
night-addict 10y ago
A question there, actually. Did you have any idea of Lucy's instability before this? Any red flags? If you did, why did you wait for this moment to occur if you had warning? If you didn't, that's pretty scary.
RedPharaohRising 10y ago
Sheds some light on the idea of "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned". Not because they're capable of worse, that's still men, but because they will literally stop at nothing to get the outcome they desire.
Perfectly great guy, veteran, war hero, family man, community chief? None of that matters when a women 'feels' rejection. Tar and feather him, sit him on the back of a donkey and parade him through town.
For a woman, emotions are her 'crack'. Who needs roid rage when you can get it from feelz?
user_none 10y ago
I've seen firsthand the Woman Scorned thing, and it's really scorched Earth type scary shit. What I witnessed was women that once they went down the road of vindictiveness, all actions spiraled out of control. It's downright terrifying.
RedPharaohRising 10y ago
"scorched earth" - perfect phrase for the situation.
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RedPistola 10y ago
What Om describes here is female solipsism and rationalization (hamster). The female psych has evolved to incorporate these psychological functions to promote natural Machiavellianism (they are never at fault). The moment a negative emotion crosses a woman's mind, the hamster takes swift action to remove it. Simply put, women are not attached to reality. Not only do women twist their stories in their recounting to others, they truly believe their own lies.
Women are most comfortable with the victim narrative. It alleviates them of responsibility, and manipulates men into assuming the hero's role. In this particular case, Lucy victimizes herself in two instances:
While a seasoned veteran like Om could easily see through her facade, the majority of men would be duped into sympathizing with her attempt at victimhood. Her second attempt was rather weak, she must be new.
thepitman 10y ago
That's a bit scary. She pretty stalker-ish
RedPharaohRising 10y ago
The ex used to do this.
For a while we did long distance. 9pm I tell her I'm heading out. Friday night. Party.
Happy as a lark till I mention this. Suddenly feels depressed and suicidal. Misses her family. Wishes she were dead. I wonder if she'd have felt any of those things had she not seen the pregaming photos with girls with better tits, better asses and way more style.
Riiiiiiiiiiiight.
Blows my phone up with texts till I lose frame and fight with her and head home, my night out successfully ruined.
If I go back in time I'll slap this version of me upside the head and drop kick him till the phone breaks. Smh at the stupid stupid nigga I used to be
becredible 10y ago
Every girl will do her best to try to break your frame and change you. And once she does, she will move on to another person that was like who you were to begin with. (That's paraphrased from Beige Philip.)
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Fulp_Piction 10y ago
How did you break up with her and her suicidal tendencies?
I'm dating a chick, no word of depression or well-hidden scars until months in. I love her, she's great a lot of the time but fuck me if she doesn't get on my tits with her Lucy like behaviour. How do you get past this suicidal shit? I know its bs, but there's always a 'what if'.
RedPharaohRising 10y ago
She dumped me. I'd like to say I baited her into it, but, well, AWALT. I had anxiety and depression, and she had just gotten an admit to the college of her dreams, so she called me pathetic and dumped me.
When her life was shit, I was the only person to give her the time of day. When things got better, I was the first person she turned her back on.
Fuck that cunt.
Fulp_Piction 10y ago
Shit, been there too.
You dodged a bullet and found rp though, that's winning. How longs it been?
RedPharaohRising 10y ago
Nine months since it ended
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Nudity_Is_Freedom 10y ago
Like this sort of thing? Because that sounds right pathogical.
RedPharaohRising 10y ago
Some of them certainly, but hell, half this things could apply to the average guy on a bad day.
What stands out to me - both on this list and IRL, was her victim mentality. She was selectively faithful to her Lord, and would rage against him when things didn't turn out well. Sweetheart, the big man in the sky is ignoring you, at least he's not focusing on you.
Scurvemuch 10y ago
so legit question--- why not turn it into a "perform to get attention" on lucy's part to be let in... I would guess not worth it... could've been fun.
OmLaLa 10y ago
I'd have to worry if Lucy was plotting something if she passed. Plus she stepped outta line. If she did it once she'll do it again.
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Cyralea 10y ago
AWALT. We don't just say it to shit on women. Thing with women is they're actually pretty clever at hiding their faults, at least initially. Takes a little bit of stress to bring out their childish behavior.
I'd sooner expect a genuine apology from Kim Jong-Un's dead father than Lucy-types. They never seem to learn either.
dr_warlock 10y ago
Civility is a woman's facade.
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splitfires 10y ago
Obviously lied to get your attention. I've never known a set of people in open relationships where everybody was honestly satisfied. At least one person is settling and struggling with it. She was insecure and likely very pained at the thought of you being with another woman due to some form of attachment she felt towards you or another. It's human for her to hope that her feelings weren't unreciprocated. Definitely not a dignified move on her part, and in her desperation she tried to relieve her suffering by any means she could manage. Honestly don't know what else you're acting like you could have expected.
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T0000009 10y ago
Answer: In story form --]> Sally spent 6 months researching the most lethal handgun ammunition, she also went to 97 gun shows during that time, during this time Sally consulted with hundreds of veteran shooters, police, and military people to determine the absolute best possible combination of weapon and ammunition. Once Sally had saved the money she went out and made her purchase, with an additional 30 day wait for her back round check on top.... Once the weapon was in her possession, and now finally loaded she walked 2 blocks across town and shot Dave's dog 93 times........
You need to fully accept and totally understand that Sally is completely innocent and had absolutely nothing to do with the death of Dave's dog.
The word... yeah... that one on the tip of your tongue.... It's accountability!
putinbusch 10y ago
Wut. Is this based on a real story?
well-ok-then 10y ago
Not even a pretend insincere apology. The mind reels!
T0000009 10y ago
Nope.... And Sally wont ever consider making one... She's innocent
redpillbanana 10y ago
This is one reason I love living in a highrise condo. Crazies won't make it past security.
dr_warlock 10y ago
Nah, they run stealth. She gets to your room has you fuck her rough. Writes a suicide note that says you raped her, with fake tears and cut herself, then jumps out your window.
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DatYute 10y ago
How exactly do your plates know about each other? What I mean by that is do you just let them know your seeing other women vaguely? I get that it was an accident that she could actually identify FC, but the way you word it makes it sound like they know of each individual plate as opposed to you just arbitrarily telling them there are other women. If it's the former I can't ever see that being a good idea.
Hope I worded that properly.
OmLaLa 10y ago
Depends. Some know each other individually some just know there are others. I give my plates nicknames though so they only know each other by those. And no I don't call FC by FC or Candy by Candy.
DatYute 10y ago
So you tell them your gonna be with FC, candy or whoever?
OmLaLa 10y ago
That's not what I call them in real life but yeah. I do. It's good dread. Lucy’s the only one whose showed up out the blue like that.
DatYute 10y ago
I see. Like I mentioned in my first post I don't see how that could be anything but disastrous, but you are far more experienced than me and have results to show its effectiveness.
Doesn't it come with a plethora of shit tests?
OmLaLa 10y ago
Depends on how you say it. My voice deep so it works for me. Wouldn't recommend it for everyone.
Not many shit tests. We've usually been at it awhile by then so I'm sure they have an idea.
Tell them something like,
"I'm fucking other women. If you have a problem with that nows the time to speak up."
Then they'll ask sex stuff like do I use condoms or how often or if it's one of their friends. I answer these truthfully but I'm short about it.
"Yes. Daily. Brenda."
Three most common shit tests:
"Why so many?"
"Why me? You have others."
After those and the questions I know she’s a plate. Or if they fuck me again after knowing. Either or.
Limekill 10y ago
you just have to wonder sometimes...
DatYute 10y ago
I see. I believe in letting it be known your fucking other people, but I don't get into names or anything like that.
sellthisthing 10y ago
I usually consider you a flawless contributor but I'm a bit surprised by this. Why do you even message back at all? I'm guessing you are throwing preselection in her face by being so direct (in the third message), but she is already a plate and completely ignoring her (or maybe just sending the first message) would've implied what you said anyway and, in my opinion, greatly reduced the risk of some crazy shit happening.
BudapestPUA 10y ago
Nobody is perfect. It was a good male shit test.
newusernamereddit 10y ago
It is also a test for her. If she cannot suck it up, she is not good plate material.
MattyAnon Admin 10y ago
Great FR as always.
Lucy was making you choose. A last hurrah. "It's her or me". Making you choose between her (with added girls-as-victim to sweeten the deal) and FC.
She put you in a position where you would have to choose.
Next. Or in your case... Same :)
Stonish 10y ago
Just tell me if Im correct - if Om would chose Lucy he would enter her frame and lose both of them as a result right?
MattyAnon Admin 10y ago
Not before a huge emotional shitstorm ...
OmLaLa 10y ago
She expected consolation because that's what "any other guy" would do. She's new.
Next for sure. My inbox is flooded right now with her nonsense.
ColdEiric 10y ago
Read 48 laws of power? All what I could think of when I finished reading this, was the law about avoiding the unhappy and unlucky.
reigorius 10y ago
How are you going to next her? Ignoring, telling her why (seems fruitless) or vague text explaining you guys don't fit?
Chockrit 10y ago
I would hard next. Block the number and move the fuck on. Sucks that she knows where OP lives.
OmLaLa 10y ago
Can't hard next this one. Too unpredictable. She might show up on my doorstep again.
UniversalFapture 10y ago
Then do what you did before. Slam the door. Ignore and let her ass stare at the floor.
Hehe. I rhymed
Its_the_other_tj 10y ago
I had a similar situation with a crazy plate. Showed up unannounced outside of my place and saw me leaving with another girl. Flipped her shit in a phone call later that day. Showed up that night (also unannounced) so I sat her down and gave her a little this is over talk (and collected my $160 birthday present and a little breakup sex) and sent her on her way.
She crazied up my life for a week or two. Random knocks on my door numerous texts (87 at last count) phone calls, and even found the other girl on social media and begged her to "give me back to her" (because I'm property now?), even going so far as to show up at my job a few times.
I ignored every attempt. Admittedly I almost caved at the threesome offer, but decided it wasn't worth the risk. Eventually it slowed to the occasional hey there text or drunken 2 am attempted booty call which is far more manageable. My anecdotal advice would be a strict no contact and let it blow over. I think it even had the side effect of raising my smv with a few hotties I work with (oh she's so pretty, she wants him so bad, and he wants nothing to do with her? I'll take a little unforseen preselection). But obviously ymmv on this.
McLarenX 10y ago
What she said happened at the "party" had the inklings of a false rape claim, so be careful.
NSmaf 10y ago
As long as he saves these texts I think he has a pretty fine case
billcosbyeatsbabies 10y ago
save the texts, good one. also i would invite FC over to fuck again but this time playfully introduce a camera to the fun and suggest we film so that i can have something to look at later. once i get her consent on video, we commence in the casual sex and that way there is hard proof that she was not raped. once i'm finished, she leaves my house and i hard next the fuck out of her. that way there is absolutely zero chance of saying she got raped. it's the perfect nail in the coffin, if played off the right way.
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McLarenX 10y ago
The reason why I had red flagged this was the emotion she was putting behind a seemingly minor sexual slight. In her mind, sexual activity is something that she's demonstrated can be used as a manipulative tool. Every woman believes this to some extent, but this seems to be an extreme case of that.
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TheRealMewt 10y ago
You could look into a no-contact order against her. Seriously, protect yourself if she's that unpredictable.
Pinkmistiscool 10y ago
OK, similar situation with the girl going off the deep end, ultimatums, sends messages forgiving ME like I did anything wrong, but never apologized. Like your situation she showed up at my place and I was able to ignore the problem right then, but how are u gonna next ur girl and maintain a safety net against further crazy incursions?
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UglyPrince2000 10y ago
Watch out with that one! Those types of girls will FUCK you up, it's always the quiet ones too!
TheBluPill 10y ago
The loud ones are just as dangerous.
billcosbyeatsbabies 10y ago
what about the medium volume hoes?
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RP15 10y ago
The average of both extremes.
notevenatthestart 10y ago
So what we're saying here is, essentially, AWALT.
widec 10y ago
You just need to do a 180 and act like a beta and she'll drop you in no time. Tell her you stopped seeing China; that you love her and you'll do anything for her. The tingles will dry up in no time.
Indigo_Monkey 10y ago
I really don't think that's a good strategy to be honest
ihateyouguys 10y ago
Horrible advice. It's a waste of time and a psychological setback. Borderline sociopathic behavior, honestly.
Don't waste any time or energy on people you don't like anymore. Don't waste time practicing beta behavior. Don't waste time bullshitting people.
no_face 10y ago
Beta Radiance. Take her out to dinner. Lavish compliments. Act insecure, jealous, etc., etc.
Once attraction cools, you can hard next.
ChairBorneMGTOW 10y ago
Given how little validation Om's given her, she'll fucking latch on and hang on for dear life if he started doing so now - it could take YEARS for her to get bored of him. Who has that kind of time?! Plus, when the dump does come, she'll be doubly vindictive.
ihateyouguys 10y ago
Strongly disagree. I think it's inadvisable to spend any time:
a) with someone you don't like anymore
b) practicing beta behavior
c) deliberately being inauthentic
billcosbyeatsbabies 10y ago
good brainstorming, but as fearl3ss mentioned it will not work out.
fearl3ss 10y ago
No at this point she'll lap it up. If you are a hard alpha with a girl and then flip to beta, it can be one of the most psychologically addicting things to a woman. she has temporarily "changed you." after a year or two she'll get sick of you again, but it's a terrible way to hard next.
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PM_Me_OK 10y ago
I feel like you should tell her what she did wrong so maybe she won't do shit like that to another guy and actually learn something. They (she) aren't wise enough to figure it out themselves. They (she) will just play victim and claim you're an asshole.
MarvelousWhale 10y ago
This is painfully wrong, but sadly it's what I would have done two years ago in my beta bitch days...
You're misunderstanding her psychology behind her actions. Keep reading TRP.
ihateyouguys 10y ago
What's the specific misunderstanding you're referring to?
rpkarma 10y ago
That you can educate someone out of their subconscious emotionally driven behaviour using appeals to logic
Lefeudufou 10y ago
The real Lesson Learned is that /u/OmLaLa is drowning in pussy
Danedina 10y ago
and that the chick at the party who is giving you luke-warm reactions is actually waiting for Chad to call her back. Be Chad or go home.
fingerthemoon 10y ago
More like surfing than drowning.
Moolg86 10y ago
gotta swim to the butt now
Regularguygamebrah 10y ago
Skeet skeet skeet, water gun.
Hiimusog 10y ago
This is what a field report should fucking look like.
Notice the complete absence of humble brags and irrelevant nonsense, just a succinct post highlighting the main RELEVANT points of the post.
200mgtestc 10y ago
Ya, I like how he called out behavior in specific terms, and then actually applied RP theory to specific behaviors in breakdowns.
I mean, it helps that it's OmLaLa so it's good writing and relevant points, but still.
the_number_2 10y ago
With some actual lessons learned, as opposed to the usual:
Lessons Learned
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sonicdrumm80 10y ago
Why, because it alludes to an oriental race and has a qualifier in it?
Kafkaevsky 10y ago
I read it thinking you would allow her in, and tell her to go hide somewhere where she would not disturb you. My beta mind was thinking how could you leave her out in the cold alone, ignoring her even after fine china left.
But I snapped out of my beta conditioning and now it's all clear to me. Thank you for this /u/OmLaLa, these FRs put so much of what is taught here into context .
Rasalom72 10y ago
Missed an opportunity for a threesome maybe?
OmLaLa 10y ago
Lucy wasn't there for that. Her intentions were to block FC not join her. Her insecurities spoke to that.
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OmLaLa 10y ago
It's not about her being thirsty though. It's about her not liking FC and causing more problems. If she got to FC I'd lose a good plate over some ass.
Rasalom72 10y ago
Exactly... but it's easy enough to get her insecurities to work for you.... FC would be down for some help in bed, maybe she can show you some ways to improve..
Or, just fuck it and tell her that since she's there, to get her ass in the bedroom and join in.... never know till you try.
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OmLaLa 10y ago
FC wanted her to come in at first.
But long term it'd be too risky. If I'd have slept with Lucy again after all that I'd fear a rape accusation or something. Long as FC's around, she intentions are clear.
Reminds me I haven't posted my rape accusation story yet.
torchbearer101 10y ago
Don't forget to post the accusation
MyRedAccount 10y ago
We all have at least one. Was yours particularly bad or in some way interesting?
Dai_Einon 10y ago
Luckily I don't. I have a couple similar stories though.
VasiliyZaitzev 10y ago
If FC was down, you may have missed an opportunity for a threeway, there.
OmLaLa 10y ago
If Lucy’s already insecure about how FC looked I doubt it'd have played out that way.
ether_reddit 10y ago
The insecurity is an act. You and FC can do whatever you like with her and she'll take it. She wants you to.
VasiliyZaitzev 10y ago
Frame control, my friend. Tell Lucy if she crosses the threshold, it will be to have sex with the OP and FC. The other choice is GTFO. She's a plate, you tell her what to do. Then she can fuck or walk.
fruitsaladninja 10y ago
I just dont see that working
VasiliyZaitzev 10y ago
of course you don't
OmLaLa 10y ago
Risks not worth the reward. Me and FC have threesomes already. We don't need to risk a chick like her for that.
kragshot 10y ago
I agree. There was far too much that could have spiraled out of control. Part of the game is knowing when to play it safe.
Second; inviting her in for a threesome would have still been an act of rewarding bad behavior. He flat out told her that he wasn't interested in seeing her that night. Instead of respecting his wishes, she invested her energy into an act of pure defiance for the sake of appeasing her ego. She tried to jump the line rather than just putting in the right kind of work to be the bottom bitch (which is what she wanted and was fearing that FC was closer to being it than her).
He needs to demonstrate that there are consequences for that kind of behavior.
VasiliyZaitzev 10y ago
Then don't.
That sounds remarkably like pedestalization....
EnragedParrot 10y ago
How so Vas (mind I really like to read your stuff - very insightful)?
What I got was not worth the risk of more crazy from Lucy - better to cut her loose now, and partly because he already has whatever Lucy could offer.
VasiliyZaitzev 10y ago
Because that's what "We don't need to risk a chick like her for that" sounds like to me.
Look, if Lucy is a nutter or something else, or isn't down, fine. Only OmLaLa knows the situation on the ground. I was just calling balls and strikes as I saw them.
And, reading the comments, it's not exactly like I was the only guy to suggest that a 3-way might have happened. /shrug
EnragedParrot 10y ago
Ah, ok. Thanks for clarifying.
I can see that interpretation, and if it came from someone else that's how I'd take it.
Coming from someone like you or OmLaLa I hear it differently, but it's still worth noting it's at least a poor choice of words, at worst indicative of some mis-thinking on Om's part.
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The__Tren__Train 10y ago
assuming all of this is true..
how old is lucy? she sounds like a teenager.
BaconEggsAndSleaze 10y ago
I mean, there's an article on the sidebar titled "Women, the most responsible teenager in the room."
The__Tren__Train 10y ago
indeed, but this level of immaturity and pettiness seems truly bizarre..even for a woman.
quite frightening, actually.
EnragedParrot 10y ago
I've seen it in women from 18 to 50...including my wife, in her 40's.
They're driven by feelz...anything that pushes on those feelz gets dealt with by irrationality. It's the only way they know to deal with stuff.
That said, some women are more rational than others, and some in less control of their reactions.
throwaway-aa2 10y ago
what? very normal my friend, and that's coming from a dude with limited experience.
Cant_Tell_Me_Nothin 10y ago
If women act crazy simply because you were checking out a prettier girl, imagine what it does to them when they see a picture of a naked prettier girl in your phone.
iDont_too 10y ago
Dude, how do you approach and make plates?
MasterUm 10y ago
Look at OmLaLa's post history, look at his selfie, and you'll not have to ask that question again.
Edit: You think I'm being rude or mocking you? OmLaLa's post history is literally guides on online dating plus guides on plate spinning. And his picture is a motivation on where one wants to be, physically.
iDont_too 10y ago
No, I will ask that question again, your response was useless. I want to know, so I can apply the knowledge and do it myself. What is looking at his selfies going to do for me?
UrbanBanger 10y ago
Let me give you a run down of WHY you need to swallow TRP
Red pill thought extrapolates the view that the western world has quietly become a civilisation that undervalues men and over values women.
Basically it comes down to a thought process about being a man who will not surrender (his will) to the social expectations of women and society as both have become hostile against masculinity.
It comes down to a so called misandrist society.
Ergo:
In some states cohabitation is considered common law Marriage, and as such a man's common-law wife can have him evicted from his own home.
80% of women will get hpv
More than 50% of marriages end in divorce and 70% of those are initiated by women.
News stories exist to further show the gender biased community...
Take the women who got less than 4 years jail for cutting off her ex husband penis to make sure he couldn't impregnate any other women, or the woman who lied about being raped in order to win 10k on a radio talk show.
Our entire societal social structure is designed to support women's living, any way they want. Women are allowed to do and say anything they want anywhere. Men though are restricted in their speech and conduct.
The violence against women act (VAWA) has a 'must arrest' policy in a domestic violence call. Women can assault and beat men in public with impunity and the tacit support of feminists.
There are also new social customs to restrain most men, a man is forbidden to notice an attractive women in the workplace, he is not to comment on it, talk about it or even look a second or two too Long.
Nuclear rejections, public shaming are the norm if a man she deemed unattractive deigns to talk to her in public, men are never, ever to notice good looking women.
Attractive men are exempt from all of these legal and social conventions.
Women are not programmed to betray good men, women are programmed to reward power with sex. Look at any representation of power and you will see quality pussy lining up next to it (James packer / Miranda kerr/ Mariah Carey etc). This is reason enough for any man to begin self improvement, the more power your have, the better quality pussy you'll get.
Knowledge is a form of power.... This is why blue pillers are lied to all their lives, it keeps them powerless therefore controllable. Women are hyper insecure control freaks, and so they love this dynamic for obvious reasons, this is why women lie incessantly about what they want.
Being red pill doesn't mean every women is going to cream her panties in your vicinity, it's an understanding of female nature and not allowing oneself to become the willing victim of its dark side.
So, a man can either swallow the red pill and learn to play the game, and get quality pussy, consistently... Or just ignore them and do his own thing. It doesn't matter which since women won't ever actually fall In love with a man for who he is.
Once a man internalises this, he will no longer care. The red pill is a set of tools that a man can use to free himself from the manipulation of others.
ho-li-fuk 10y ago
shh bby is ok. I'm piling on here iDont_too, because you're a twat.
I mean that in the best way. No really, you're special.
The suggestion that you read the post history was really all you needed. My guess is that as of right now you still haven't. Do yourself a favor and read it. No really... crack a beer and read it. Then read the sidebar. It'll take you a couple of days. Read them both again.
Then, when you have some actual questions about the methods that are already outlined, please ask them. You'll get many different answers. You'll have to think a little bit, you know... for yourself. It'll hurt, but only for a little while as you actually use what you've read in the real world by approaching.
Much love.
Thorbinator 10y ago
Read the sidebar. All of it.
Moolg86 10y ago
okay but why not smash lucy too bro?
dangle that carrot?
EDIT: Current comments advocate a possible threeway, but meh, I still say you could've smashed both
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Moolg86 10y ago
looking at his responses though I'm willing to bet the sheer audacity og lucy's antics probably turned him off, and ontop of that he already had a hotter fine china with him etc.
Unexpected_Artist 10y ago
She's legit crazy. She may be trying to build evidence of rape. She's desperate. Desperate people are reckless and unpredictable.
Ennyish 10y ago
Wait, you had two relationships at one time? I-isnt that cheating? Like, if I had agreed with someone to be mutual and they had a bunch of side hoes I'm not sure I would feel like I was being respected...
Edit: Wow, downvoted for asking a question, thanks guys.
Plan_of_Action 10y ago
They aren't side hoes... They're plates. They're all on the same level... give or take favoratism towards one or another. This situation would make you a plate as well, and not necessarily at the top of the list looking down at the "side hoes". It's up to you to decide if your feelings are reason enough to leave. Typically a charming extremely high value, interesting guy who puts up with zero shit (unlike most guys) is worth sticking around with while you hunt for someone else, but again, that's up to you. There are always other girls.
Also, it's not cheating. Cheating is breaking an agreement of monogamy. u/Omlala and other plate spinners here are open with their intentions. We don't lie. Well... some of us do, but it's not usually advocated. Lying isn't even necessary and sometimes it's counterproductive.
Nothing here is disrespectful, but either way, respect is earned. Commitment is earned. Time and attention are earned.
Hope that clears things up.
Edit: 'Plugged in' comments get downvoted in this sub. You were downvoted for asking a question that shows you have a lack of knowledge of the sidebar material. Don't take it personally.
dapowa 10y ago
Plan_of_action's response was solid here.
tallwheel 10y ago
Sorry, this sub has a no-posting rule for people who haven't read the sidebar, which you obviously have not.
Ennyish 10y ago
Hey, how about you stop making an ass out of you and me because I have. Jesus fucking Christ you're patronizing.
Edit: Not to mention there's like 30 links there so soooorrrryyyy if I missed some.
OmLaLa 10y ago
Dude don't get upset if u/tallwheel says read the sidebar and you haven't read all the sidebar.
They're plates not side-hoes. You can't cheat without commitment. Lucy knew me and FC get busy. That wasn't an issue til she saw FC.
Ennyish 10y ago
Well, shit, I guess I just made myself look dumb. It's intimidating, you know? So many links, and even if you read through the basics you still feel like you're missing a lot. Not to mention the reputation this sub has. I'll try to keep and open mind and do more research.
tallwheel 10y ago
I don't know how you could read much of the sidebar and still not understand the concept of a "plate". And even if you did have a passing knowledge of what a plate is, it's ridiculous to suddenly bring up a moral argument against keeping plates in a subreddit where this is regular practice among the subscribers.
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AwakenReality 10y ago
I, my friend, would have invited her inside and have her taste Fine China right off my cock ¯_(ツ)_/¯.
ihateyouguys 10y ago
Which, alpha as fuck as that would've been, it also would've been bp as fuck too, unfortunately.
UrbanBanger 10y ago
Here here....have an up vote
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AwakenReality 10y ago
Actually, they do. You see, Lucy MUST now be better than Fine China. OmLaLa knows it, SHE knows it & Fine China knows that she might have some competition.
This works for Omlala, Fine China will go buckwild on Omlala since she does not want to be dethroned. Lucy will go absolutely insane to "teach" Omlala that she is "the one". (Unless he decides to next her)
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aa223 10y ago
A compelling reason to have more gun control.
But as for your situation you handled it very well as expected. I mean the only thing that was missing from this was a heavy pouring of rain to really make this dramatic. I can't wait for your next post on how you nexted a girl like that (Lucy not Fine China).
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aa223 10y ago
Are you sure it doesn't mean making your gun automatic in such a way where it will obey your every whim by just issuing a series of commands?
sonicdrumm80 10y ago
You mean trigger discipline, right?
aa223 10y ago
This is why the NRA will get their way because everyone knows that a fully loaded gun is trouble waiting to happen but they insist that it is the person not the weapon.
Joseph_the_Carpenter 10y ago
The difference is the fully loaded gun is trouble waiting to happen on purpose. It's purpose is destruction. Women should be there for pleasing me and giving me children, not ruining my life or someone else's. I would unload the ammo from every woman in the world if I had that kind of power.
sonicdrumm80 10y ago
The person is responsible for the discharge of their weapon, now, whether the person can be deemed responsible is a different matter. However, I own several firearms and not one has any of them discharged while I was carrying them, or storing them. In fact, much like all inanimate objects, they do not do anything without the help of physics. Without Newtons laws, firearms, loaded and unloaded are not going to discharge.
aa223 10y ago
Wait are we still walking about women, guns, or both?
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OmLaLa 10y ago
Me and FC have threesomes already. Bringing an unstable chick like that in the mix who's after FC's head isn't worth the risk.
UrbanBanger 10y ago
I would have made Lucy sit on the lounge and watch me rail FC into a squirting orgasm.... Then suggested Lucy eat out FC from behind while she was on all fours.
If she didn't want to engage, I would have shown her the door...
Next. Plate. Please