I was going to leave this as a comment in: https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/325453/where_are_you_guys_meeting_these_cute_men/7874466/ But I think it has a good home here. My first post here. Hope you enjoy!
I've become fascinated with semantics and etymology in recent years particularly when a debate centers around the cultural meaning of a term.
Have you noticed that women now often refer to each other as "girls" and rarely refer to a man they desire as "hot"?
Let's start with "cute": A feminist harpy online said that referring to a woman as "cute" was patronizing. I dismissed her whinging at the time but later as I saw women use the term for men they desired, I thought I'd utilize her observation for my purpose. Why "cute?" Robin, Off to the Bat-Dictionary!
"Cute primarily describes something—especially something small, young, or dainty—that is charming, pleasant, and attractive."
Cute is something desirable, but not necessarily universally "hot". Perhaps something that's not to everyone's taste. Not everyone wants a "cute car". It also sounds traditionally feminine, doesn't it? There's an implied submissiveness there including the need to conform to "pleasant" versus demanding and entitled.
This way, they can see Chad as perhaps accessible to themselves and perhaps even apply some beta demands to him. A "cute" guy should approach her and subject himself to The Humiliation Ritual while a "hot" guy by default could demand King treatment similar to the Princess treatment she desires. If she says "the hot man didn't approach me", this begs the question: "Well, perhaps because he's hot he doesn't need to?"
Let's now pivot to "girl". Back 40 years ago, calling any woman over the age of 18 "girl" could get you corrected: you were supposed to refer to them as WOMEN! DID YOU HEAR ME ROAR!?!?!
Now that even without the ERA they know they have via DEI more rights than us, they want to be treated like "girls" again where they aren't held to pesky adult responsibilities and burdens. If they pay their own rent, they expect a medal like a teenager who cleans her own room without being asked. Girls just wanna have fun!
Think about that for a moment. Cyndi Lauper's video dad is being teased for telling her to grow up. Of COURSE girls just wanna have fun but a parent's responsibility is to tell kids to do unFUN things such as brushing your teeth, cleaning your room, and learning how to become a full fledged adult.
Compare and contrast to how the term "man" and "boy" is utilized: "Boy" is now used in the most degrading form possible. Even having fun such as playing video games on your day off is mocked as being "boy"ish. The term "man" as used by them is rarely used as a form of respect and even avoided such as replacing with the word "guy" which is gender and age neutral. They prefer to use the word "man" solely as a reminder of one-sided burdens and obligations.
Something more disturbing may be that (literal) boys are continually reminded that there's something inadequate or wrong with them for fear they'll retain such behaviors into adulthood which is Wrong while, on the other hand, it's common for 40 year old "Disney Princesses" to drop $10K/year at Disneyworld.
I like the way this one ends: https://youtu.be/Cz7tw5ViYxk
One of the other aspects of their "girl"ish mindset is the notion that they should have entitlements because... they WANT them. "That's just the way I was raised to expect men to be providers" or "That's simply my preference! Why should I settle?!?!"
More semantics: "preferences" are not the same as "entitlements" and "entitlements" are only real when backed with an actual method of consensual trade or political authority and the ultimate political authority, as we learn on Starship Troopers: https://youtu.be/w_urWSSZgwU?t=44
Meaning, men, that we're living an era of when feminine Political Authority as we know it is so delightfully fragile, The Tinkerbell Effect, where when men stop collectively believing in it, it ceases to exist.
Hence why The Big Question posts on WAATGM are so profound in that women asking such obvious questions is similar to hopping up and down on a cracked bridge: Shaming ploys only work to punish a few miscreants to set an example to keep the others in line but when you do it out of exasperation that the miscreants are NOT being punished...
That's like putting up a sign: "Please don't litter! Nobody in authority can do anything about it!"
Once you become attuned to semantics and etymology, it can be addictive! https://youtu.be/4sSEQbVV4M4?t=82
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 6h ago
One way to look at it is instead of trying to directly translate into a static definition; first understand that women often do not speak overtly/concretely like men usually do - instead they are indulging in Power Talk, where the purpose of the words they use are not their dictionary definitions, the purpose of them is to evoke a desired response.
For example, the girl/woman dichotomy. Women use "girl" when they want to escape some form of accountability and/or scrutiny or expectation to be a functioning fucking adult.
They use "woman" when they want more power/authority/privileges. And so on.
In contrast, "Boy" is near exclusively used by them to label and shame men for not acting in a desired way. Compare with "girl". Getting the picture on how it's not the dictionary definition of the word that matters here?
TLDR; words are magic spells that women cast to get what they want.
GeorgeIII 3h ago
I’d save this analysis of who is what, and what terms we and society use to convos with the gentlemen. Love to talk this stuff, but it never works with women, even open-minded ones.
Treat this like you are in a play, or an improv comedy routine with women. Make up any nonsense you want with your words. And enjoy it.
No-Stress-Cat 42m ago
MANsplain, fuckBOY, GIRLs night out. These are just terms women use in public as talking points for the sisterhood. Womantalk, when they want to discuss personal references, they don't talk in nouns, but in adjectives: hot, rich, cute, fun, good, scary, creepy. It's not about the semantics (women don't know anything about that), but about which persona they're displaying: public streets or private sheets.
polishknight 2d ago
@Vermillion-Rx @Typo-MAGAshiv I have attempted to read the sidebar to comply with the rules but the link wasn't working in my browser. Perhaps it's because I have a 2010 Mojave Mac? The only thing I'm fretting about is that i used youtube links because I didn't want to streamable them because there's copyright involved. I can remove them if required and replace with "youtube search Cindi Lauper girls just wanna have fun" or altogether. Let me know.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1d ago
Congrats on your first TheRedPill forum post!
Okay so that "sidebar pdf" (not sure if that's what you're talking about is just red pill educational reading
If you're talking about this site's sidebar and the rules link, I'm not sure why it doesn't take you to the right place but it shouldn't take you to a nothing page on reddit. I need to fix that
People rarely break TheRedPill forum rules here, and the rules for posting here pretty much amount to "don't post low effort slop or blue pill shit"
This is from rule 9 (follow our content guidelines):
https://www.forums.red/p/theredpill/320242/red_pill_forum_tribe_posting_quality_guidelines
You're fine. There really aren't restrictions like WAATGM. It's pretty straightforward in TheRedPill, just don't post slop or like one paragraph or a block of text
At any rate, I need to revise TheRedPill forum rules cause that post is basically too long and most of the slop posters are gone (I might have had a role in that lmao)