Attainable Mid Syndrome
Post is dedicated to Senior Endorsed Contributor and good friend @MattyAnon who originally explained to me a few years ago why mids don’t like being approached by attractive men at the clubs.
Phenomenon
Guys often ask why women who are generally considered 5's or soft 6's (on the standard attractiveness rating scale from 1-10) are generally bitchier and more unpleasant when approached, even when the guy is attractive and he logically concludes that she should be happy to be approached by an attractive man, when she is only just a mid.
Likewise, men often ask why such women have such an audacious entitlement complex, often boisterously demanding they deserve a man who is six feet, six figures, six pack, six-inch p.... portfolio, even though there isn't any discernable reason why they deserve those things, have even earned such opportunities, nor have match capability with the very men they assert that they deserve.
Rarely do you see a similarly unpleasant or brazenly entitled high 6 or above woman, and if anything, those women are actually generally a lot of fun and pleasant to date. But how could it be, that when 5's or soft 6's are actually approached by the very same attractive men they claim to be God's grace of the Earth to deserve, that they often immediately whip out the bitch shield and even preemptively reject these men out the gates, often foregoing even a token shit test he can try to pass?
Male Perception
A lot of men find enjoyment in the mid because they perceive them to be easier and unintimidating - attainable - compared to other women, because they are mid. There is also an overabundance of mids to go around. Rejected by one? Well, there is yet another mid within the vicinity somewhere else, often within spitting distance. Also perceived as good "practice" to men who are learning the ropes with nothing to lose.
Thus, the average mid is often a temporary pump and dump, some guy's Tuesday or Wednesday, or not even on his radar to begin with. The only men who generally prefer the average mid as a romantic option - aka long-term dating - are men who are looksmatched to her because he is also a 5 or soft 6, or worse, the man is a high 4 or below who pines for her unrequited love as his best "option" that he has.
Mids are still women though, they are hypergamous and don't like to settle with same-level men.
The other appeal of the mid is that - while she is not viewed as very inspirational or a woman men yearn to have - she is still more appealing than firing up The Hub or going for a true slump buster (a 4 or lower). Men don't need to be drunk or desperate to be willing to bang a mid, and none of their buddies will shame them in all the group chats for hooking up with one.
Diagnosis
Attainable Mid Syndrome (AMS) is characterized as a learned defense mechanism and internalized set of personality traits that are developed to protect mid women from being the lowest perceivable common denominator for short-term suitors and bad dating options who are either looksmatched (4-5 looks men) or hypergamy matched (6-7 looks men) and who primarily want mids for recreational use only.
This defense mechanism ingrains a developed jadedness towards the quality, or lack thereof, of suitors who do not meet the standards or long-term goals that mids have as women.
AMS is also characterized by an impulsive or obsessive desire to flaunt sexuality or increase their perceived sexual market value (SMV) by multiple points with makeup or other temporary faux sex appeal cues to snag the attention of men well beyond their SMV bracket, as if all men care about is sex.
Additionally, they may resort to demanding entitlement to things they can't earn, yet feel they should have, through hollow attempts to convince the world of what they are owed. This manner of cope serves as an obnoxious attempt to escape the endless cycle of being the girl who is good enough to get, but not good enough to keep, for most quality men.
Development
Apart from developing AMS from repeated pumps and dumps by men out of their league and unworthy serious "options", mids often develop AMS from high-volume approaches in single people environments where they are hit with waves of endless, unserious thirst and undesirable slop approaches.
For instance, mids are bombarded nightly by waves of stammering chucklefucks and their pet retards with the worst conceivable opening lines you've heard in a club with the delivery of breath five PBRs deep, while her more naturally attractive friends get better suitors. Afterall, unlike her more attractive friends, the mid gets YOLO spammed because she is in her natural plane of perceivable existence as easily "attainable", and often presenting herself all dolled up as Chad Bait, which has the unintended effect of looking slutty and more accessible for the night to every other guy.
It is even worse on dating apps, where lower mids see 2,500+ likes in two weeks or less of firing up a new profile with four bathroom selfies. The mid does not even have to try on apps to even get hawt matches, yet men will still swipe on her like crazy. Men are not afraid to swipe left on a mid, though. She will be hit with a disproportionately higher amount of "wyd?" and "want to come over?" DMs while guys choose their strategies more carefully on more attractive options.
Prognosis
The bombardment of undesirable legions of slop attention and slop romance makes attention itself become anathema to the mid, as the act of approach in of itself has been classically conditioned to activate webs of disappointment and confrontation neurons in her brain, resulting in chronic bitch shield and feelings of deserving more for perceived hardships and unmet expectations after being told she's "pretty" for years.
Ironically, the bitch shield and delusional standards cope of an AMS-stricken mid only further lowers her statistical odds of finding potential hypergamously satisfying suitors who also find her to be relationship worthy because she has become an antagonistic and uncooperative bitch without the looks to offset it.
The AMS mid therefore inevitably takes misguided corrective steps to acquire and sustain more attractive mates. She plasters makeup on and hypersexxes herself up with gimmicks as if all men care about is sex, which inevitably backfires because eventually her makeup and her bougie, seductive clothes must come off, causing her SMV to plummet instantaneously, akin to men opening a fluffy bag of potato chips only to realize that 80% of it was vacuous air and shameless false advertising.
This manner of cope serves as an obnoxious attempt to escape the endless cycle of being the girl who is good enough to get, but not good enough to keep, for most quality men.
Side Note: Women with Late-Stage AMS will often rightfully conclude, even if subconsciously, that they were never actually that pretty, but wrongfully conclude that the viable alternative to dating by appealing to great men is to girl boss and get a degree to be closer to high value career men, as if men care about that.
Side Note II: With Terminal AMS you usually see these mids reach levels of contempt and misandry where they pump out toxic TikToks and Insta reels about how all men are "trash" and other slop tropes as cope, a surefire indicator of severely untreated AMS.
Treatment
The mid who is afflicted with AMS inevitably enters an endless cycle of becoming even more jaded and disillusioned with the dating process, doing anything BUT raising her relationship market value (RMV) to attract potential suitors. For trying to overexaggerate her SMV to escape her natural SMV bracket is always the wrong move with predictable dating end results.
I. The only viable, long-term resolution for AMS is to instead raise RMV over shallow SMV manipulation.
II. Requisite self-reflection is needed to escape the cycle of pump and dump mediocre results, the AMS mid needs to grasp that she can, indeed, appeal to men's senses by being a great woman to a man without jaded gimmicks, and that success is possible.
III. The mid can make herself more femininely beautiful with subtle makeup instead of slutty makeup, use more feminine hairstyling, wear clothing choices that project feminine presence and energy, and acquire more feminine hobbies. By offering genuine peace, satisfaction, and femineity to men, she paves the way well for her improved dating success.
IV. Rather than the mid embarking on her villain arc against men and entrenching herself even deeper into feminism and misandry, she can politely decline bad approaches, many of which will be less frequent with visible RMV upgrades. She can also especially self-select out of shitty venues like clubs and Tinder. She can also avoid congregating with angry, disappointed mids to keep herself from relapsing.
V. Daily doses, taken as needed, of lowering one's expectations is a critical step to honest self-reflection and a requisite starting point for meaningful results, dating improvements, and authentic happiness.
Diagnostic Criteria for AMS
Attainable Mid Syndrome (AMS)
Personality Disorder
(Cluster D: delusional, desperate, disillusioned)
Diagnostic Criteria
A. A pervasive pattern of defensive behaviors and internalized traits in response to perceived romantic inequities, beginning by early adulthood and present in various contexts, as indicated four (or more) of the following:
- Learned defense mechanisms to avoid being seen as the "lowest common denominator" for short-term sexual partners.
- Internalized jadedness toward looks-matched suitors who fail to meet hypergamous standards.
- Impulsive flaunting of sexuality to compensate for perceived shortcomings or insecurities.
- Use of excessive temporary enhancements (e.g., makeup, deceptive clothing) to elevate perceived attractiveness.
- Sense of entitlement to unattainable romantic or social benefits.
- Chronic feelings of being trapped in a cycle of distressing male attention.
B. The pattern causes significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other areas of functioning such as interpersonal relationships.
C. The pattern is stable and of long duration, and its onset can be traced back at least to adolescence or early adulthood.
D. The pattern is not better explained by another mental disorder (e.g., narcissistic personality disorder).
Specifiers
- Mild/Moderate/Severe: Based on number of traits and impairment level.
- With hypergamous features: Emphasis on unrequited romantic expectations.
Approach them 7's, Gents! They're a lot easier to talk to and much more willing to be fun around and with you.
~VRX

Lone_Ranger 3 6h ago
Very well written up piece.
I would add a few bits,
AMS is often born out of expereince. A woman this is a 5, all dressed up, with her make up and other slut signalling (crop top showing her belly piercing and lower back tat) will get a LOT of attention from men in a pick up venues. Strangly, she will often get more attention than a solid 9 in the same venue. It is preciesly because she is a 5 but signaling easy attainability that she is getting so much attention.
the borne of expereince argument continues when she sees the results - 5's that slut signal will have 10 years of negatie results by the time they get to 27. The results are always the same - they get pumped and dumped. So their view of men is tainted as a result. They find it easy to get laid by men many points higher than them, but they are starting to think that men are only interested in sex, because the only men they have ever had sex with, are men that only want sex FROM THEM. Because that is really all they have to offer.
Conclusion: excessive bitchiness and shit testing is a by product of a history with a high body count NOT of her number on an attractiveness scale. Women that have a high body count have an expereinece of a huge amount of 'failed relationships'. For a woman, even a ONS is a 'failed relationship'. He didn't want anything more than a wet hole.
The consequences of sleeping around come for them all, whether they are 3s or 10s.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 6h ago
These are great points, I should have really made the distinction that not every mid does this by default, in my zeal to finish the post didn't specify that.
I greatly appreciate the feedback!
Lone_Ranger 3 5h ago
spoken like a gentleman.
I have also noticed something about mids, especially when chatting the up;
Just because she is an easy target (mid, slut signaling, in a pick up venue) and you are several points higher than her on the scale (being honest, I'm going to have to say that I am probaby 8 and above) doesn't mean that she is going to let you have it at a 'low cost'.
The bitchiness that you speak off, that is simply her introducing 'friction' as an avatar for cost. No matter how mid, not matter how slutty, no woman wants to admit to herself that she is 'easy'.
Pay attention guys, this next bit is very important;
So when you, as an 8+, are gaming some mid (5 and below) in a venue, for some pump and dump, do not be put off by her bitchiness. She is just trying to show you that she is not 'easy'. Even if she has made up her mind that she is going to let you hit it, she will always introduce some bitchiness, almost as a substitute for the gradient that you would expereince if she was a 10.
It's just how they work. I've seen loads of guys gass out too early on a sure shot ONS, because the target was being bitchy. Nonchalence is the way forward. Just ignore the bitchiness. A lot of the shit testing is simply 'confidence testing'. Women are very attracted to confidence, so when they act bitchy and insult you, they are simply trying to see if you care. If you care, you lose the game. If you dont care, they see you as a chad.
A good example of this is comments about height - you might approach a mid at a pick up venue, and she'll makes some reference to your height (if you some sort of dwarf that is under 7 feet tall). She is not rejecting you, she wants you to bang her, she just wants to make sure that you are not sensitive (IKCY!!!!)
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 1d ago
A different factor can also be at play when a woman (of any SMV or RMV) rejects a man: hormones/mood.
Women are absolutely ruled by their hormones, and they fluctuate in a predictable pattern within their monthly cycles. One of the better tips MRP has for husbands is to track their wives' cycles and observe their behavior at different points. That's great for those who get to see it, but you aren't going to be able to look at a stranger and know where she is in her cycle. We aren't baboons, after all.
For all that Rollo is right when he says that "hypergamy cannot afford to wait" when a woman is confronted with a man who ticks all her boxes, a man who might have been a sure thing for her while ovulating might be brutally rejected while she's in the luteal phase of her monthly cycle.
And he'll never know.
So to quit rambling about this (Rollo has written plenty on it already), and to shift the focus slightly from what's outside a man's control (and she, she, she) to what's within his control:
if a dude gets wrapped around the axle about why a particular woman rejected him, it's a form of oneitis and scarcity mindset. Forget her and move on.
Lone_Ranger 3 6h ago
this is a great point. I read some research ages ago about how women that are ovulating are many many many times more likely to cheat than if they are not.
If you put an otherwise loyal woman in a position where she can get laid by chad, and she is ovulating, its almost impossible for her not to fuck him. The research also showed that she is far less likely to use a condom in those situations as well.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1d ago
While I agree with your assessment and that I'm sure mids and attractive women alike do this, my personal observations are that mids still react poorly a lot more on average then better looking women. In noticeably higher numbers and the rejections they give are often more vitriolic
So the menstrual phases don't explain that after hundreds of approaches
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 1d ago
I've not even tried shit like that since 2004, so take anything I say about pickup, etc with a grain of salt, weighed against your own experiences.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1d ago
That makes sense. Yeah this has been mine and almost all my buddies' experiences, too when we approach
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 2d ago
Yup, a woman can easily avoid inflicting this upon herself (and let's be clear, participation in this cycle is entirely her choice - just because a drug exists does not obligate one to go to a dealer an buy it either) by having realistic expectations for romantic attainment to begin with and thusly avoiding the pump and dump cycle of men too far above her actual league to commit.
But that requires women to collectively admit that just because a man is willing to stick his dick in them does not mean they are able to attain him or his status. And they will never do that so long as society shields them from the consequences of that cycle or otherwise defers them until a later date.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
Sadly yes, women often - and en masse - use social mantras and popular culture to fall back on their shitty choices, cause that's what they read in some fem dating rag.
However, the best thing men can do is tune that out, grind, and just simply avoid women they never have to date or fuck if they wish not to because as men they have options that women don't
This is a rare, if not my only ever, original post I actually opted to provide actionable advice to women somewhere in the body
Doubt many will take it but it's there
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 2d ago
Of course they fucking won't lol
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
Lmao, well now at any rate when guys ask why a mid shot them down at da club I can send them this post instead of answering the same answer again
Ace2Face 2d ago
I think a lot of us knew this about the mids, but to see it laid out like this is really valuable. I think it really explains why we have a much better time with the much more attractive or (really unattractive) women. AMS can happen theoretically at any level, right? But for it to happen, there needs to be a huge mass of them concentrated in one level, so men perceive them to be common fodder for approach.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
I'm hoping I'm understanding your question so correct me if I'm not getting it
Yes I went deeper because it throws off a lot of guys and as far as I'm aware, I haven't seen a full account of the dynamic or psychology written anywhere before in full
Not sure I understand, but populations usually follow a bell curve. Where 68% of the population sample is to the left or right of the population average, so most women are probably a 5 or a 6 (probably a 6 on the softer side)
I'm sure obesity rates in any given country will skew the population distribution one way or another for women but I think if I know what you're asking, AMS would occur primarily for 5 or 6 women where they are just good enough for men but not ideal either
Keep in mind the given perception of a 5 or 6 rating is based on population averages, not at random.
A 5 or 6 in a given area is a 5 or 6 precisely because she represents an averaged rating of looks among the population sample, with a lesser share of women being substantially less attractive than average, and a lesser share of women being substantially more attractive, with even greater extremes at both ends.
Because mid is population specific, men are going to weigh them as good enough but not ideal regardless of what a 5 or 6 is in any given area, thus probably resulting in AMS for 5-6s regardless of area
Now obviously at like a model convention you won't find many mids, so obviously we're going by areas, venues, forms of meeting where there are normal population distributions of women to pick from