This is taken directly from Jordan Peterson here: https://youtu.be/UEWH2hnmfzc?t=3845
So there's this Bible quote in Proverbs 29:18 "Where there is no vision, the people perish. But he that keepeth the law, happy is he."
This ancient wisdom contains lessons that JP puts into a modern context. It goes like this:
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If you have no vision you have no well developed aim, and;
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If you have no aim you have no direction.
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If you have no direction that means you're lost.
- If you're lost you're anxious, so then you're enveloped by anxiety.
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If you have no aim you have no hope because hope is always experienced in relation to an aim, and;
- If you're in a marriage or other collective/tribe and you have no collective aim then you're in conflict because nothing unites you.
JP then goes on to explain how our education system was invented by the Prussian military so that fascists could make people into obedient workers that can't think for themselves. I had my AI assistant do a little research into this and here's what it came up with:
I do not have enough context to make definitive claims about the motivations behind the design of education systems. However, here are some perspectives to consider:
The modern education system has roots going back centuries, with influences from many cultures and philosophers. Attributing its design solely to Prussian militarism is likely an oversimplification.
While Prussian education approaches in the 1800s did emphasize order, obedience and nationalism, this was mirrored in many countries at the time. The goal was often preparing youth for industrialized economies, not just military service.
Most education systems aim to provide a baseline of knowledge and skills for students to eventually participate in society and the workplace. However, many also aim to foster critical thinking, creativity and self-direction. There are ongoing debates about how to best balance different goals.
Education can be leveraged by authoritarian regimes to indoctrinate citizens. But open, democratic societies strive for education systems that empower citizens to think freely and shape their own lives. There are always tensions and room for improvement.
Ultimately, the outcomes of education depend greatly on the teachers, administrators, politicians and others implementing it, not just the initial design. Blaming "the system" overlooks the role of human agency in shaping education over time.
In summary, while we should thoughtfully examine and debate the goals and methods of education, claims that reduce its history to a simplistic narrative of oppression should be scrutinized and avoided. The reality is far more complex.
So there's your red pill dose. You've been brainwashed to not only be obedient workers, but to conform to the gynocentric social order as set forth by "teachers, administrators, politicians and others implementing the educational system". How many of us remember that one cool teacher that bucked the system and taught us the unteachable?
So the lesson here is to work on your vision. You may have never done this before(I sure as hell haven't). JP has a self-authoring course that enables laymen to do just that. I don't want to pay for it so I read someone's review and I hit a gold mine. Some guy named James Clear who really makes a lot of sense of this stuff. Here's his articles/blog: https://jamesclear.com/articles .
Anyway, I don't want to buy his book or read his articles so I had my AI assistant summarize it and here's what it said:
Here's a brief summary of some of the key ideas from Atomic Habits by James Clear:
Habits are powerful because they compound over time. Tiny changes, if repeated consistently, can lead to remarkable results by accumulating into massive differences.
To build effective habits, focus more on creating a good system than achieving a particular goal. The system should set you up for success by making the habit easy, obvious, attractive, satisfying, and sustainable.
Habit formation follows a four-step loop: cue, craving, response, reward. Identify cues to trigger your habits, satisfy cravings with a good routine, cement it through repetition, then reward yourself.
The inversion of a bad habit leads to a good habit. Figure out what's not working and invert it. For example, if you're sedentary, make it a habit to take a short walk each day.
Habits are changed by tweaking your environment and routines, not through sheer willpower. Design your environment so good habits are the easiest course of action.
Reflecting on your habits and tracking progress can reveal insights to continue improvement. But don't get stuck analyzing - take action to build habits.
Habit change is slow but accelerates with consistency. Compound interest works in your favor with daily habits, even if you start small.
The key takeaway is to focus on building systems of many small, sustainable, positive habits. Over time, these atomic habits compound into remarkable change.
Anyway, hope this helps someone. It sure helped me.
Acela_nextel 1y ago
Jordan Peterson is a cuck bitch, his daughter is a whore. Anyone who looks up to him is a bitch by default
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whytehorse2021 1y ago
Hey man you can lead horse to water but you can't make it drink. As far as I know JP has never been cucked but if that fits your world-view then so be it. Brilliant(or stupid) on your part. You decide.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
I adamantly against using AI to make RP posts or get any information for an RP post. The internet and woke ai training is not going to produce analysis that is going to help form RP knowledge
For summarizing some book maybe but even then how can we affirm the veracity of that summary without reading the book ourselves?
I'm not a fan of AI being used to form knowledge on RP posts. Please don't do it again. Jordan Peterson should also not be used as a basis for RP theory. The man is not RP and I'm sure he is against it.
Also the education system as is? Maybe. But to insinuate education is bad seems absurd. How how else would you learn all that stuff en masse without education? I don't think it's feasible to have loads of people learn skills such as engineering etc without some kind of education system
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I think the post could have solely been built on forming habits without the random aside about the education system that is debatable at best. Minus points for JP and ai assist.
I'm not sure what the find your purpose part was for considering stay "on your mission " is frequently spouted ad nauseum already in TRP.
I don't think that education part "red pills" anyone. Obviously the education system is bad as is due to woke politics and trying to churn out progressives instead of educated people but I just don't see the point in any of that analysis or claiming it's a "dose of red pill"
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Those are my numerous issues with the post. It's all over the place, etc
whytehorse2021 1y ago
I think you're uncomfortable discussing ideas within the crucible of debate. The AI raises valid points on both sides. You know this is true because you had that one cool teacher who bucked the system. You also saw the woke agenda being pushed in school.
Anyway you're totally getting drowned in details and missing the point. Our dreams/visions are crushed by school. It's by design. Either you accept that fact or you go into denial and take the blue pill and go back into the matrix or whatever. Do you have what it takes to dream and live it out?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Additionally
Your own assistant says they "don't have enough context". But then you call it a red pill and make it a definitive claim when there are a lot countervailing points about education that could be made.
Was Greek education bad when they were finding ingenious ways of architecture? Did education start with the Prussian military? This post is riddled with so many problems it's hard to tackle the fine points of what is problematic about it
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
This isn't remotely true. Using AI is not foolproof. It's as good as the humans training it. Which is usually anti-red pill filtering. None of us can confirm what the AI summarized or synthesized, and neither can you, the poster. Which makes it undebatable
No one here can verify the information, you yourself said you didn't read it. So as far as I'm concerned, that part of the post is bunk because we simply don't know what human bias or artificially induced censorship or human bias was part of that analysis. We don't know which thoughts or beliefs in that synthesis were potentially removed, filtered, degreased, or run through a woke screening.
Do not use ai posts again. Read the source material yourself, I'm not accepting woke ai synthesizing material for TheRedPill because it is unverifiable. If i were to ask you to find the source it synthesized could you even find it? If so just read it yourself.
Chatgtp for example has countless examples of woke bullshit. To say I'm uncomfortable to debate is bs. I'm not going to allow unverified synthesis on here. You can't even debate it yourself if asked because you didn't read it yourself. Not allowed.
This kind of absolutism is antithetical to debate. There is no rebuttal i could give you with this mindset. So all the Uber rich college chads living out their dreams had their dreams crushed by education?
The problem is you're using a little known, poorly known historical point to broad brush the purpose of education or how worldwide education systems function. This kind of broad stroke claim is likewise antithetical to debate because you can pick any coincidence as rebuttal to any point I make
My whole issue with this post is that there's nothing anyone can debate. You didn't read the broads weeping claims you yourself write about, and then make a black and white assertion
I personally think this post was not deserving of staying up due to its unfalsifiable nature. You're asking us, in any effort to debate you, to go investigate these sources ourselves to verify when you yourself didn't.
I'm taking down any "ai assistant posts" in TheRedPill in the future. Do the work yourself. No one can rebut you because of the structure and approach of your post.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Alright. I'll stop contributing to YOUR forums just like Rollo did when he went and made his own blog and subsequent books and youtube channel. I guess we can't live together so we can all die alone. You're the epitome of the OP.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Dude. You didn't read your one sources
If you can't follow a basic request to actually read the source material of the shit you post about, use anti red pill JP as a source for your post, and use woke ai as a source, and make broad sweeping claims that were formed by ai, the same ai which also outright said in its answer that it can't give you definitive proof, then You can't post about shit you didn't even read.
It's impossible to comment and debate your post because of the way you got this info. You shoved the work onto your "ai assistant" as if that was intelligent instead of riddled with obvious problems. And hence, it falls beneath TheRedPill posting standards
TheRedPill posts should be able to stand up to scrutiny and no one can even start there because you didn't even read half the shit you posted about. This should be a basic request that is understandable but instead you're Flouncing
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mattyanon Admin 1y ago
I switched off at "bible"
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whytehorse2021 1y ago
Mods will be mods. The important thing is that where there are 2 people of like minds there is a "church". I hate quoting the bible but it distinctly says in Matthew 18:20. "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, I am there among them"
I can't speak to your intentions but I will make mine clear. I believe that there is an awakening of mankind and people are being brought together under common banners. In the red pill version this is what we see in these forums. In the beyond red pill sense it is what we have here. I can understand why there is heavy resistance. Resist the resistance. Go beyond. I believe in you.
Durek_The_Bald 1y ago
Is America Destined to Fall Like Rome? Victor Davis Hanson
6:05 min video. Very relevant to what you were talking about in the first half of your post.
https://youtu.be/UR40MYBjSm8?si=vYSETzQKEC_RJl-x
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Yes the collective aim has been lost and now we are all opposed to one another.