Women want an open man who isn't afraid to communicate, and maybe even share their feminine side. It's true because I heard it on the TV.
" My girlfriend is less attracted to me after finding out about my trauma. Idk what to do."
lol
"The trauma in question is that from ages 12-17 I was sexually abused by my cousin who is a year older than me and at one point also by his girlfriend at the time."
That is actually terrible. That shit will fuck you up for life. I feel bad for the guy. I really do.
"It obviously took a toll on my mental health"
No shit.
"I've been with my girlfriend for about a year now. I didn't tell her about what had happened to me..."
Smart move.
" However, about six months ago she and I went to a wedding and both got drunk. The wedding was in my family and something was said that - for want of a better word - triggered me big time and that, coupled with me being drunk, led to me breaking down in tears and telling her what happened."
Oh no, you dumb son of a bitch, tell me you didn't.
"At the time she seemed sympathetic, though I did notice she became a little more...standoffish?? Like, she wasn't mean or cold or anything. She was just less forthcoming with physical affection and stuff. I didn't think too much of it."
There it is. And I think we know where this is going.
"The message thread included things like "it's sad, but I just don't know if I can be attracted to him anymore" and "I know it sounds bad but I just don't know how I feel about being with a guy who got fucked by another guy" and "I just don't get how he let it happen, like if it was an adult I'd understand but it was another kid???"
Aaaand scene. This one is over hoss.
Remember, women are as predatory as the guy who raped this young man was. More so. And as all predators do, they have a radar that is constantly pinging for weakness. EXPRESSING WEAKNESS TO A WOMAN IS A DEATH SENTENCE, NO MATTER HOW 'REAL' THE SENTIMENT IS. Save that shit for your homies.
This poor idiot probably thought his girlfriend actually liked him, after all they had been dating for a year. At least his initial instincts to not tell her anything were correct. But he got drunk at a party and started crying and expressing weakness, and not a month later this bitch is ready to jump on another cock.
Women are not interested in you. They are interested in the character they have of you that exists in their head. If you like your woman, act in a way that allows her to maintain that character in her head. Do not express weakness of any kind, no matter how legitimate, to a woman. And lastly, don't get drunk with your woman. You want to have a few pops, fine. But don't get drunk. Frame control is extremely important. Nothing we don't already know.
Don_Himself 3y ago
women will rationalize the victimhood/vulnerability of a serial killer/sexual predator and like him for "who he is"
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i can guarantee this chick cheated on this guy and fucked the cousin and is probably in the process of a branch swing
FeniZio94 3y ago
There is a 180% chance she’s already actually gotten a replacement
aesky 3y ago
is that any fucking surprising tho? i'd say it's a given
speacially today
NeverLace 3y ago
Thats the beauty of trp. You know exactly how it works and you never get suprised.
buttertoastmmm 3y ago
I don't think this has to do with women not wanting to see weakness or have their men open up. This woman is obviously not a good person for this, but I think there is the bigger issue that society just doesn't really believe men can be sexually assaulted or raped.
I think the societal logic goes like this: with women it's easier to understand how a man took advantage since women are usually physically weaker and socialized to be non-aggressive. But men are the opposite. So, there is a question of, "How could he have let this happen? They had equal size and power." This thought suggests that the victim either is very weak or didn't try that hard to resist.
It's messed up and a bigger problem than just women not wanting men to open up. The problem is what society says the implications are with what you're opening up about. For example if a man was opening up about grief over fighting in war and losing fellow soldiers/friends, society tells everyone that's a very honorable and understandable weakness. If a man opens up that he is losing touch with reality and having depression caused by the same exact thing, he may not receive the same understanding due to the mental health stigma.
TRPonlySubsBanTRPppl 3y ago
I don't think it's that. Notice how the message said "he let that happen." It has nothing to do with whether he was raped or not and everything to do with how he didn't fight it off and didn't recover from the trauma. Once you no longer see something as an issue, you recover from the trauma. The woman is no longer attracted to him because he showed that he's still vulnerable and unable to protect himself (and therefore her) from rape.
vwowv 3y ago
Stupid. Men aren't sexually raped. They are psychologically raped and resource raped constantly. All women know this. They aren't in denial of it among themselves, they just deny it's true to men 100% of the time. Men don't think women understand that they are playing men all the time. Men are fucking stupid, and in denial, hence why women spend 80% of all disposable money, a boughten house is chosen by women 90% of the time, car women 90% of the time. They own more than 50% of the stock market, are more than 50% of doctors, and lawyers. They occupy 2/3 of universities, and get all the free money. Because men are stupid. Man cave to all of this 'just to make sure'
MachiavellianDogma 3y ago
Honestly a good take, not sure why you are being down voted.
Tousen71 3y ago
Because this community has a segment of sensitive and angry betas that bristle at anything poking holes in their fragile, and recently-constructed narrative.
revrev4405 3y ago
I see the red pill with a lot of plasticity. It bends and folds to your needs but soon as the plastic breaks so does your frame
TRPonlySubsBanTRPppl 3y ago
The median voter is an idiot. On Reddit. Off Reddit. It's all the same.
buttertoastmmm 3y ago
Idk lol maybe there are some dudes on here who just want to believe the worst in women.
RagingMayo 3y ago
Guys who went full-on crazy and subbed to MGTOW are polluting the red pill with their incel talk and make the rest look like women-haters as well. I notice that everytime some dumb redditor generalises woman in a negative way. Recently I've seen a comment here saying "essentially all women are prostitutes". I believe that you could in some fashion make an argument for that, but in general it seems like men projecting their bad experience with women onto all women.
theguytheguy1000 3y ago
so true bro, it must take so much mental gymnastics to believe the worst in women, they never do anything that makes me question them.
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buttertoastmmm 3y ago
Same can be said for men. I thought the red pill was about realizing truths about the system you live in, not about confirming your own biases without looking at the bigger picture.
Edit: unless this whole sub is just about women hating and I missed the point by thinking it was a Matrix reference ...
TheGweatandTewwible 3y ago
Pretty much. The big picture here is that if there is no solid foundation for a woman to be good and faithful (aka bizarre alimony laws, glorified hedonism, etc.) Of fucking course she's never going to even TRY to be a good woman. Dogs can be nice and loyal if you train them well but if you leave a dog out in the woods, it's gonna become feral
buttertoastmmm 3y ago
What are you saying, that women have to be trained to be nice? And men don't?
IterMercator 3y ago
Not OP but it's more the idea that being nice/good is like a skill, men are always told to be nice, and punished if they aren't, rather severally most the time. Women however are either exempt from these punishments that cause them to be nice or even encouraged to not be nice. This situation means that while men don't need to be trained it isn't because they naturally are nice, but rather they are so conditioned not to step out of line by current society standards, that training isn't needed. This situation doesn't exist for women so there's no need to be nice
Lefanteriorascencion 3y ago
It’s about congruence as well. Sure as kids we are conditioned to be nice but as we age we have the choice to choose how we interact with others. I’ve found that as an adult when I’m nice people have walked all over me. Now I interact with people with a backbone, I’ll cordially defend my beliefs and enforce my boundaries with little abandon, not just sometimes but every time. I always remain in my masculine frame cause one hiccup and you are seen as weak and easy prey. In turn society has made it clear that that’s the only way they will respect me....
TheGweatandTewwible 3y ago
If you leave any human to pursue selfishly what they want, they will, spoiler alert, be selfish. Men or women. Men tend to be more loyal by nature and women don't, that's a fact. But let's not pretend that a gal who's been dicked down by a dude every day is the same as a gal with a strong father figure and conservative values.
Those type of girls get corrupted, yes. But the reason why gals like the latter get "corrupted" in the first place is because of the "me me me" mentality perpetuated by literally every piece of media and everyone around her.
vwowv 3y ago
You have to be selfish just to become aware that women are 10x more selfish then your best shot. You have to be selfish to know what the game is and where the starting line is, and that the starting gun has already been fired. Not being selfish is being in denial that you have an identity, mission and purpose. If you are in denial you will project your identity, mission and purpose to others so 'you aren't selfish' Willingness to make another fools purpose your meaning of life, but who? You never figure it out, it must be your woman, pretty sure.
TheGweatandTewwible 3y ago
On an individual and current basis, yes, if you want to get ahead you have to be selfish because no one else is going to do it for you. It still doesn't change what I said
hiktaka 3y ago
Telling your struggle is not always detrimental for your game, as long as you turned out to be the hero, the strongman, the winner. Some drama-loving chicks even dig it.
360NoSnooper 3y ago
What if after he realised he fucked up, he would break her off and act standoff. As if he know what will happen, so he'd just do it himself, and said fuck it, i fucked up.
I think that'd spin her hamster up just a bit.
I know how thing goes, but just a thought...
absolutelynp 3y ago
Was it the way he expressed it or the thing itself?
I still won't believe that you have to put together an act all the time, but more so be careful how you express yourself and of course, keep some unnessecary things to yourself. I can't imagine that sharing trauma for example is impossible.
I told almost every chick that I have an anxiety disorder and the culprits of it, but they see how well I handle it and how fine I am with it and its okay I guess...
dkod066 3y ago
If I swallowed the red pill a few years back I'd literally have avoided years of agony and so much wasted time. It's never too late to learn tho
Sumfuc 3y ago
Poor guy needs serious help got that trauma. Until he gets sorted out, this WILL happen to him again.
rebuildingMyself 3y ago
On the other hand, you can display weakness to get rid of a girl (like a stalker ex). The more you show strength, the worse it'll get, since they feed off drama like a fucking vampire. But if you start blathering on about how mean your boss is, how you quit going to the gym, how you sit at home and don't go out with friends anymore, she'll eventually find another victim.
RagingMayo 3y ago
Or you just friendzone her, block her on all chatting channels and get a restraining order, if she is batshit crazy. I would much rather live my life with pride than succumb to acting like a bitch just to get rid of one.
muff_marauder 3y ago
Women are naturally much smarter than men.
The reason why women value "communication" so much is because a highly transparent, highly truthful man is easy to discard if he becomes too much of a burden or potential burden.
Car owners want a car that communicates all of its problems to the driver so the driver can make smart decisions about fixing the car, selling the car, or abandoning the car.
Women want boyfriends/husbands that communicate all their problems so the woman can make smart decisions about fixing the partner, cheating on the partner, dumping the partner, or milking the partner.
TRPonlySubsBanTRPppl 3y ago
In the car example, the woman is like a mechanic. The mechanic wants a fool he knows exactly what he can upsell the dude on that he doesn't need. She's trying to get information out of him to make him the best customer possible.
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arakouzo 3y ago
It is more simple than this.
A rape victim is damaged goods. Traumatized. Mental illness. Rape victims do stupid shit like getting drunk and crying at a gathering while word vomiting about their past.
A woman has options. Therefore, she can dump a male rape victim and replace him tomorrow.
However, if you reverse the story, and a man dumps a woman rape victim for being damaged and too much trouble, he is regarded as a monster. This does not happen often, though, because most men do not have options. Most men will work tirelessly to try to make things work with their rape victim girlfriend, as she gets more and more turned off by this clinginess until she is sick of him and finds a random guy at a bar who will fuck her like her rapist did to make her feel more in control of her life.
vwowv 3y ago
Some of this isn't woman vudu rocket science. They drop you just like you might drop a girlfriend that cried to you about being raped. Too much baggage. Just demonstrated it isn't forever behind you, thus forever in your future.
lesson: man or woman, get over your past traumas, throw them in the trash and never look back. Its healthy, and it respects your SO. No SO male or female wants to find out you are still carrying past trauma. If you can accept the explanation on this level there is no need to understand the 'weirder' stuff (from eyes of a man) that goes through womens' minds.
RedGille 3y ago
it is simple.
If u cannot protect urself (or at least get a handle on that shit later) how can you protect her?
weakness in a man is like ugliness in a woman. We check'em out. they do too.
Pleasenodrugs 3y ago
Forreal, you can’t even blame her for shit like this
TheBloodEagleX 3y ago
Damn, this hurts to read because it's so blunt and the truth.
notWhatIsTheEnd 3y ago
Sounds harsh, but I've been with multiple women who were either raped and/or physically abused and they all liked it rough... Some liked it very rough, like I didn't feel comfortable with the shit they wanted me to do...
rredhammer 3y ago
Yea when I was younger I dated a chick who had been raped and she wanted me to use a dog collar on her and beat her. Suffice it to say I dipped
Keith_Valentine 3y ago
Does sound harsh. I knew a few girls who were assaulted/ raped. But one in particular was pretty bad. Yet she would get drunk downtown and fuck strangers or walk home alone through the worst parts of town at night, on purpose. That melted my brain a little when i found out.
I treated her great and she didnt care, was kinda mean tbh. Then one night we were on moly and i started dominating her. Ripped her pants down and started working her ass over with my belt. Bit her ass and took pictures of her naked on the couch. She said she would only call me daddy if i slapped her in the face, then we had sex on and off most of the night cuz of the drugs. I earned her respect a little that night and part of me died inside but im cool with that. It was a bitch part. Still was weird tbh, girls like that just fuck my head up because things you were taught to believe are backwards.
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TheGweatandTewwible 3y ago
That's just edgy TRP talk. But yes, every women likes a hard pounding
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Alzatorus 3y ago
Can confirm. I had one that used to lay off the bed and literally ask me to.... Errmm...... Slap her head repeatedly with my balls... Hard...... Don't know, quarantine, how much more can be said but yeh.... It was rough
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Thorusss 3y ago
honest question, how to you slap a woman HARD with your balls? All movements I picture either also hit her hard with your whole hip, or would hurts balls way more than a face.
Alzatorus 3y ago
Hmm... Well, i'll say what I mean and mod can remove if it's risky for the group, but she would basically want me to have sex with her throat while she hung her head off the edge of the bed backwards... Something like a porn movie and it just felt wrong... She was mental...
arakouzo 3y ago
There are many psychological reasons for this.
Rape shatters a woman's psyche because it breaks the illusion that she has power or safety. Men are just plain stronger, and she is only as safe as men let her be.
This leaves many rape victims with a lot of difficulty connecting with men romantically, and also leads many of them to act out sexually. They go off the deep end with strangers in bars and off of the internet because if this random sex is their choice rather than a rapist's choice, they feel like they are taking control of their sexuality. It makes them feel powerful again, if just for a night.
Many rape victims begin to prefer rougher sex, even when they have never liked this in the past, because it unconsciously helps them psychologically feel in control and powerful when they are voluntarily having sex like the rough sex their rapist had with them. Some even specifically seek out or request men to do things to them that their rapist did.
It never fills the hole. They are intentionally exposing themselves to a traumatic trigger over and over, hoping they can eventually make it stop. They are damaged forever. Eventually, with enough therapy, they stop doing that and bury the trigger as deep as they can, but it is still always there. I had this one woman totally flip out on me over hair pulling, just out of the blue. It set her off. She was pissed and stomped around screaming like it was my fault, telling me to never do that again. She explained why, the mood was ruined, I never called her again.
RedGille 3y ago
wow. another spot-on comment from this guy.
Kabuki431 3y ago
I read this statement a few years ago after a bad breakup which brought me to trp. Every word perfectly describes my ex, shit fucked me up for a long time till i embraced trp.
Andgelyo 3y ago
Reminds me of the time I saw a porn video of a white girl getting spit roasted by two black dudes, all of the sudden she requests the dudes to start “monkey punching” her. So she got one dick in her mouth, the other in her pussy, and both dudes just belting her with punches on her side lol it’s fucked up shit mang, but it did make me hard as a rock lmao
TheMuslimMGTOW 3y ago
Stop watching this degenerate filth.
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havanagiggletherem8 3y ago
Nothing wrong with a bit of comedy. Ease up, habibi.
havanagiggletherem8 3y ago
It's a pretty hilarious video. It's on efukt with the title "The Punching Bag".
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Andgelyo 3y ago
Ayyy my boy knows what I’m talking about lmao
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vwowv 3y ago
It's not that he was raped that was the big blow it (though it doesn't help). It's the crying to her about it. She didn't sign up to that. She signed up to the cartoon that you are the rock. That you were the chosen one put on Earth by God as proof of her supreme worth.
If you had told her you were raped as a child as though you didn't care and might smash the guy in to rocks if you ever saw him again, that would only be 10% of the damage, the 90% would be for crying on her shoulder. Telling her she is your new mommy, or caretaker.
Controversial belief:
I don't know how much any of you have internalized that women are not interested in producing results, just spending the results. Women are not interested in brick laying, or tiling or janitorial or any other labor job that produces results with absolute value. Women are not interested in plumbing, or food inspection, or sanitation, or any other mission important jobs. Women are not interested in Math, or physics, or any higher thinking job, they don't care at what temp steel melts. They care only about jobs that control others. Administration jobs, Management, Human Resources, Psychology, Counselors, including Marriage counselors Drug reps, sex driven sales, and now lawyers and doctors.
Here's the controversial part. You've got to be mad to ever visit a woman psychologist, or marriage counselor. It's a sting operation. These women see you the exact same way OPs girlfriend sees him when he cries on her. Women take these jobs to hone their control over man, and to construct societal controls over them.
The more redpill I get, and the more time that goes by, I see men as stupid. Real stupid, almost all of them. Men are more stupid than women are self-centered. If you ever think 'actually' and 'logically.. that would mean' you are probably stupid. You are an insult to logic. Men are cowards that throw manhood under the bus by throwing each other under the bus. I told a man at a coffee shopyesterday I was walking down an isle in Target and a woman started acting all urgent telling her 6 year old son to move out of the way.. out of the way, as if I was a SWAT agent and something was about to go down, when there was plenty of room for me to walk by I told this coffee shop man it pissed me off. He looked at me like I was some kinda perv, only to feel like he was on 'the right side' for a moment. He used the moment to be in denial that any women has ever tried to 'depict' him. He was basic cad, like most men. I didn't even get to the point that when I got right next to this decently attractive woman that I didn't give a fuck about, I said to her, "why?" [the context was clear.. 'why does he have to move out of the way?']. She straightened up her back, stood at attention like she wanted to board my spaceship, and smiled like she was ready for me to talk to her. I paused, not even looking her in the eye then moved on. Women don't act 'afraid' because they are afraid. They do it as some kind of tactic. For example they will do this not because they are afraid (just one example), but because they want to publicly depict themselves as afraid and depict you as the problem to have an upper hand, and set themselves up to manipulate other's instinct to protect them. But in my case there was no one there to see. Maybe she was signaling to me that she acknowledges me as a dominant figure. That's how this one seemed because of her later accepting behavior. Maybe she was doing it so there is some kind of relationship or link between her and me. Lots of relationships start after an initial emotional conflict. I don't know. I haven't figured it all out. One thing I know for sure is she was NOT fearing her child was about to get hurt.
Do not think women think like you do. Do not think 'logically, she wouldn't...' women have something superior, not inferior to logic.. brute lizard brain intelligence, that makes great use of men's commitment to their over-simplified 'logic'. They cast out body language, voice tone, and words like magic spells is more reliable to control their environments than men use math. They push buttons that rely on men's 'instinct to protect', 'to do what is 'logical'', 'to take the hit to make sure they aren't the problem'.
Women use primarily their lizard brain. They get away with hell because men are in denial that lizard brain intelligence is superior to logic and reason because logic and reason are just, and women ultimately must fold to what is just. No they don't, because men think that's enough reason for it to happen. Men are stupid.
btw, I'm a man. I'm woman smarter than 99% of other men and still pretty woman stupid.
Raxacory 3y ago
Nice essay, good read and true. Sounds kinda blackpill but it is what it is.
promy135 3y ago
Very interesting take. Thanks for sharing
dr_warlock 3y ago
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If a woman gets hurt or reports danger, and the first that comes to mind ISN'T "what did she do and was she partly to blame?", then you're dumb. Not only because it's a thought process that should be applied to anyone, but because women often do the aforementioned quoted text. Almost all instinctively. To the degree that she's aware of it, she won't admit because it doesn't benefit her and will most likely get away with the power grab because men are gullible, especially when women gather in unison (team woman). IE If his wife agrees with said woman and shames hubby, hubby will acquiesce because he's got no options and is weak.
vwowv 3y ago
Preaching to the choir
Abundance and not marrying keeps men away from these problems.
absolutelynp 3y ago
I came to the same conclusion. Manipulatiion is so second nature to them its almost scary.
If anyone here thinks the world consists of well organized communication and exchange of facts. Think again, there is a whole underlying parallel world with different rules out there. And women are like Neo, manipulating it at their will. Not saying this to spread hate, but to warn you to be cautious and observe closer.
vwowv 3y ago
The current theory I came up with and am kicking around aka I might not believe it next week, is that humans only have a cerebral cortex because men evolved to use it as they invented things, farmed with tools, developed artitecture, transportation, and all technology. The cerebral cortex is sort of like a cambrian explosion, but instead a quick (relatively) development of a newer brain part. Meanwhile women continued to use their lizard brains primarily and still do. Men on the other hand use their lizard brain less because it conflicts with the reasoning of the cerebral cortex which does well when thinking about things in the physical world, not people. On the other hand, women primarily think with their lizard brain. The only reason women have a cerebral cortex is because they mate with men and got it that way. Yet they don't use their cerebral cortex much and when they do it's in a capacity that augments their lizard brain agenda. In fact the best part of a woman having a cerebral cortex is to grasp mens new thoughts like 'physical world reality > emotion' , and 'conservation of resources > working double'. Of course they don't embrace these notions. They just use their awareness of them to further manipulate men in conjunction and to extend to their lizard brain performance. This is why a woman can be a lawyer, but meh, often lose interest, they can do just as good with their lizard brain with a lot less effort and more stimulation. Using their cerebral cortex is secondary in nature to them. Men on the other hand doubled down on cerebral cortex style thinking and have become largely estranged to their conflicting lizard brain, which makes them even more stupid and blind to lizard brain reasoning. Men need to use more of their lizard brains again and balance and coordinate it with cerebral cortex reasoning.
Just_Another_Wookie 3y ago
After correcting for body size, women do have smaller brains than men, but what they also have, after correcting for brain size, is a higher volume of grey matter, and thus a proportionately larger cerebral cortex.
The "lizard brain" is fucking stupid. It's not smart enough to be manipulative. Manipulation takes being able to accurately model the internal worlds of others and derive a plan of action based on predicted responses that will result in desirable outcomes. This is no less a skill than toolmaking. It requires a high-powdered cerebral cortex.
Besides, the brain requires more energy to support than any other potion of the body. If some of it were not needed by females, there would be very strong selective pressure to minimize this energy requirement.
Women aren't stupid, they're just different.
absolutelynp 3y ago
what? like they squirted their brain power into them?
vwowv 3y ago
No. the theory is it was thinking about the physical world.. tools, math, (all the things a cerebral cortex lets you do) is what made the cerebral cortex develop in the first place, and men were the only ones doing anything that made it develop to what it is now. Women didn't develop it at all (maybe just a little in a weak peripheral way), they just got one for free because they mated with men, and baby girls came out with a cerebral cortex like boys did.
I actually came up with the idea thinking sarcastically, then did a double take because I couldn't think how to immediately disprove it either.
absolutelynp 3y ago
Well, women still needed logical thinking so Im queite sure they developed one too, on their own. Surely certain parts of the brain developed differently because both male and female had unique challenges to overcome. I think its a important thing to remeber that they had different lifes and thus developed differently. No trying to hate, I just try to come to peace with the fact that the manipulation powers are so strong in them.
vwowv 3y ago
I can see most of what I'm saying is a complete abomination. it's hard to rough out an idea and look back at it and agree with my own wording Not to mention things I completely disagree with myself it's just a step to get it on paper. Closer to what I'm trying to say would be that men's long hours inventing and using tools and all that is what developed large parts of the cerebral cortex. Upon birth whether boy or girl more cerebral cortex was there to work with every generation. Women then used (or did not use) those nuggets of cerebral cortex to thier own direction or the same way as man or both. I'm picturing it incrementally through generations. Not like men went millions of years developing a full frontal cortex then one day their woman birthed a girl and the whole cerebral cortex dropped in like a car transmission. I'd think the reverse would be true too. Women develop parts of their brain that men don't and boys are born with parts of developed brain they didn't develop themselves and may or may not progress to use utilize it. Maybe the unasked for capacities are at odds with how they want to evolve and create internal conflict, dualism, and cognitive dissonance. Maybe handling those three and resolving then is the next stage of evolutionary development. I'm all over the place and surely words are failing me as well as saying nonsense. Keep in mind the pursuit of alchemy led to chemistry. The nonsense of alchemy and subsequent critical thinking of it was a compulsory step leading to the scientific truths that is now called chemistry. We have words in place to talk in a nuanced way about chemistry now. In the earlier stages these words were poorly defined or not defined at all. So in the early stages those who had a good mind for chemisty and those who spoke 100% nonsense about chemisry sounded about the same because scientific quality words were not in place.
I've already lost the battle because the cerebral cortex does a lot more than man traits. Also im not a seasoned brain scientist so I am set up to eat my words and think harder.
However I googled cerebral cortex damage and it said problems controlling emotions, poor decision making, a complete lack of impulse control, and memory or attention problems.
Sounds like a typical woman with a cell phone. And the opposite is what men are transfixed with. So I see that as vaguely supporting my theory. If I'm right maybe the wisdom here for men is to figure what brain developments boys have inherited from woman. Perhaps that is embracing the skills that men consider manipulation that influence society and trump truth. Finding the balance is power and just. Or maybe that's just man 'logic' and man proclivity.
This is more of a creative writing practice in the name of discovery than a statement of belief. That's why I'm writing it where 1 person will be reading it if that. If you even read this far. Sorry I didn't edit at all
Snowaey 3y ago
This makes me really wish that the blue pill fantasy was real..
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absolutelynp 3y ago
screencapped for own motivational reasons
IterMercator 3y ago
The harsh reality that men are completely disposable and have no social safety net/help. Even as far as that if you do desire the slightest bit of help from your SO at your weakest will result in their leaving, really can drag a man to the blackpill (original, not incel).
The only saving grace is that there's literally nothing you can do so you kind of are forced to accept and move on with it
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Qba1994 3y ago
Yeah, what is dofferent when it comes to women „harsh reality that they are completly disposable”?
aaronryder773 3y ago
Kind of new to trp, what is the blue pill fantasy?
Old_Traveller 3y ago
That we live in a just world where your woman loves you unconditionally for who you are.
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TheGweatandTewwible 3y ago
It is what it is my dude. You can still show a vulnerable side to a gal if you do it from a high value frame and don't overdo it. Be 100% confident always no matter what
ShadowKnight324 3y ago
Just be stoic when you express the things that are the troubling you and never let her sniff that you are not past it
TheGweatandTewwible 3y ago
Better yet, don't even care if she can sniff it out in the first place
TheBloodEagleX 3y ago
That's the thing. If you're truly RP then you don't care if she leaves or not; abundance mentality and hold frame. It's just hard to juggle a lot of these truths.
Thorusss 3y ago
Survival of the fittest. We would not be as healthy/smart/strong, if women would not have been attracted to the best the most. Can't blame evolution. Take it or leave. It's not fair, but it is a game.
Also a lot of women do care for the disadvantaged. They just don't want their seed.
mugeji 3y ago
This rationalisation sounds reasonable and make the pill easier to swallow.
TehOncomingStorm 3y ago
If this isn't the truest shit. There was a girl who was extremely romantically interested in me at my lowest point in life. I showed her a lot of weakness because I was just seeking friendship. However, she already had kids.
youtrain6969 3y ago
I always appreciated this way of thinking about trp in general. Viewing women's harshness from the perspective of evolutionary advancement can help a lot of people get over the "women are nothing but evil bitches" mindset.
Even Jordan Peterson comments that one of women's greatest powers is their emotional power over men, which played a big role in our incredibly fast evolution.
absolutelynp 3y ago
Didn't help me tbh. Still hate the fact that it's a game...it feels very much like a game too. Nothing appears genuine about it
PhoneOnMyName 3y ago
Can you explain me about that thing ,which Jordan Peterson was talking about?
NovicePilgrim 3y ago
Not the same poster but lately binging in JP material.
For one, the young inexperienced male usually pictures the woman not like a human, but like an avatar of the femenine ideal. She is womanhood personified, and her rejection means rejection from all women and, in a sense, exile from the tribe. Thats a huge emotional leverage.
Second, seems that female homo sapiens are picky when choosing a mate. They don't want any seed, they want the best seed. Thats why, says JP, males are competitive. Being at the top of the competence hierarchy means access to the pussylords.
One could say that women act as nature emissaries, choosing what seed deserves to be carried on and which one deserves to be removed from the gene pool. He (JP) kinda puts "the blame" on women for the direction humankind has taken, and makes it fit with the Adan and Eve myth.
XenithTheCompetent 3y ago
Also curious on what it was
Genki-sama2 3y ago
You know, it gets thrown around a lot that men can't talk about their feeling or be vulnerable. We've been cultured to become this hard shell, however, we suffer as a result because the things we don't share eat us up on the inside.
In my experience,I've never met a woman who I've shared things with who has either used them against me,or was less attracted to me as a result.
Granted my experience, isn't that wide and I choose extremely carefully the people I share things with because majority of people are shit. What I can give in terms of advice for who ever decides to read this, is try to be a good judge of character. The character of the person whom you are with is important in deciding what or if to share.
If she is a shitty person, you bet your ass she'll use that as ammo,or depending on the severity,she will detach from you completely. Also, talk to a counsellor or a psychiatrist. Issues like that have to be dealt with properly such that you wouldn't feel need to share it.
roundabout44 3y ago
While it's always better to start off strong and in an "asshole" way and calibrate yourself in a LTR to a masculine, yet human version instead of starting off like a pussy and then enforcing masculinity, this post makes it all black and white while it isn't like that.
In a LTR, or hell, even a hookup during the courting phase it is welcomed to show weakness. But not like the bitch in the OP's post.
Showing weakness should be done ONLY, and ONLY after you've overcome the obstacle and made it a lesson and a productive experience for your character from a position of power. If you frame it like that, the girl will not only think of you as weak but rather give you extra points.
"The grumpy stoic guy actually has a softer side but is not a pussy and it only made him stronger!" is the hamster you want to spin.
While it's extremely hard to spin the story from the OP's post, if he had confessed this from a position of power, for example, while consoling his girlfriend from a position of power, and saying something like "I've gone through it with a shrink, shit happened, I'm glad I got it out of the way, I even helped a couple of other victims as well and now they're all much better as well." in a sober, deep and calm voice, he might have had a chance to spin this into an experience that made him human, yet strong.
A mental breakdown while drunk with tears only signalized that it's deeply troubling him, that he's severely damaged and didn't overcome the trauma. Pure weakness.
operationveritas 3y ago
Similar thing happened to me a while back with an ex. Except I wasn’t drunk or crying.
Difference was I’d already dealt with it myself mentally, and just told her as she was probing.
Same thing happened. Insta turn-off for her. A slight hint of sympathy but didn’t really give a toss.
I learned my lesson there. I regretted saying it as soon as I told her.
Trauma needs to be dealt with internally first/with a therapist. Some women care, but most really don’t, and some will outright resent you for it. Best practice, STFU.
seekfirst1st 3y ago
Never ever not ever tell a woman your problems
TheGweatandTewwible 3y ago
You can tell your gal stuff that you've gone through (although, that case is a bit extreme), just keep it within your frame and make it clear through yourself that that shit is in the past and you're not that same person. You don't have to cover all your shit up for your girl, you just have to have 0 insecurities about it and as always, be high value
SteroidsFreak 3y ago
Real talk this has nothing to do with being a RedPill, chick wasn't the one. If a woman you've been with for a year doesn't accept you with flaws and shit, then you either break up or find someone else. Simple. We all got traumas, ptsd, etc. Im glad he found out sooner than later, the point of being in a relationship 100% is to be vulnerable and open to one another. Thats the begining of the foundation of a relationship. Dude just stumbled on a side ho
hazaraMoghul 3y ago
Women are like police. A child police. Anything u say will be against you
Casanova-Quinn 3y ago
Your making this more malicious than it really is. Yes, women are attracted to physical/mental strength in men for obvious evolutionary/survival reasons, but it's generally subconscious. It's all feelings and tingles to them. They're not actively scanning people like the Terminator lol.
PhoneOnMyName 3y ago
In one word: they don't care about your struggle,only results. She smelled that he is not past of his truma, so she lost her attractiveness towards him.
ForgettingBarryWhite 3y ago
Holy shit this thread is horrible, what happened to this sub?
monday_girl99 3y ago
Theory: the woman doesn't know how to react to knowing he has sexual trauma because she has never been faced with that situation before and might physically not be sure what to do and think that even touch might "trigger" some bad memories back to the guy.
absolutelynp 3y ago
Wow hamster in action. Not saying that to hate, but it feels like an insult to someone who has openend up in the past only to wittness the going cold first hand.
But Im sure she was just confused and overwhelmed with the situation and eventually couldn't handle it anymore and had to break up. She had to. Then of course she was full remorse with her friends and cried at least once...until one month later when she was dicked down by Chad and "finally over it".
Seen it, far too often. The story unfolding differently, vaguely heard of it.
monday_girl99 3y ago
Did we read the same story?
NYCMusicMarathon 3y ago
If you say it drunk, it still counts. If you want this Norton 650, I'll buy it.
My Dad, the day after he offered me a high end Norton motorcycle that 2 Brooklynn thieves had stolen and were offering him to buy for me. It was n't for me, I turned it down and my father was greatly relieved to not have to buy me a motorcycle cause he said he would when they got him drunk.
NuckMySutss 3y ago
Ehh ya’ll just ain’t found the right woman. I had a girl who heard trauma as bad as this shit and she loved me more for being vulnerable. Not all women are like this, or maybe I just found a unicorn.
yaminub 3y ago
I'd agree with this. If she acted that way, she isn't the quality woman he wants in a serious LTR (if that's what he wants).
In the other hand, if I'm just hooking up with someone, I'm not telling them shit that like that.
KIsarek 3y ago
All women are unique in some way. They share a lot of common traits, but so do us men. What turns one girl off will make another one want to tear your clothes off and do you on the spot. Really, these things are a case by case basis.
Nergaal 3y ago
the moment I opened up in my previous relationships, the relationships started rolling downhill.
Ays_500 3y ago
And if only it was a girl who was a rape victim the guy would accept her blindly with all her flaws.
Arnoux 3y ago
I don’t think that is the case. I would not accept it and lot of others who accept it don’t do it blindly problably but with a lot of internal struggle.
Ays_500 3y ago
I've heard stories where men in a good light are shown to marry and accept rape victims and shit if you know what I mean. We wouldn't but those men do
MachiavellianDogma 3y ago
Tbh most women I know would not act like the way this woman did. I really don't understand why this post is here. She is a shitty woman with shitty beliefs.
Remember, women are as predatory as the guy who raped this young man was. More so. And as all predators do, they have a radar that is constantly pinging for weakness. EXPRESSING WEAKNESS TO A WOMAN IS A DEATH SENTENCE, NO MATTER HOW 'REAL' THE SENTIMENT IS. Save that shit for your homies.
You're Delusional.
Women are not interested in you. They are interested in the character they have of you that exists in their head. If you like your woman, act in a way that allows her to maintain that character in her head.
I'm all stoicism but this sounds sociopathic "act in a way that allows her to maintain that character in her head" who has time for this shit?
Do not express weakness of any kind, no matter how legitimate, to a woman.
Not Possible.
And lastly, don't get drunk with your woman. You want to have a few pops, fine. But don't get drunk.
Again not possible.
Frame control is extremely important. Nothing we don't already know.
Only real thing that you have said so far.
Tbf, You seem pretty delusional on how relationships work. Seems like you need to read the sidebar again and get past your anger phase.
Flamethrowa21 3y ago
Women commonly leave their spouse after they open up like this. This is plastered all over TRP.
TheGweatandTewwible 3y ago
It's not that you open up but HOW you open up. A gal can still see you as high value if you give a bit of a vulnerable side to yourself (in other words, don't overdo it)
MachiavellianDogma 3y ago
I know. It's pretty fucked; them's the breaks.
ZET_unown_ 3y ago
Survivor’s bias? (Or in this case non-survivors bias)
bilabrin 3y ago
That may be true or just how they perceived it after getting clingly oneitis and driving them away and then trying to figure out why she left and deciding that they were a victim of judgement for being honest.
bilabrin 3y ago
This. This post makes a lot of assumption based just on what one person in that situation said about it.
There may have been any number of reasons she lost attraction but the one she said might have been the way she perceived it or maybe not.
Maybe he did something that seemed really clingy or like he didn't have abundance mentality.
Either way, honest communication builds relationship. You lose them when you front. BUT you also have to not get oneitis and lose abundance mentality and get clingy and insecure or it may be game over.
roundabout44 3y ago
While the OP has made it quite black and white, both of you are not completely correct.
The only thing that I would like you to understand is that relationships are based on creating a fantasy of your partner and maintaining it. This is biology 101 and you will see a lot of BP research on this topic.
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Therefore, your girl, and YOU (yes, all of you) have created a fantasy version of your LTR (Don't get me wrong, not saying you think your girlfriend is a goddess, I hope!) that is not objectively true. And this is okay, it's the only way to actually stay with someone for long, and give up all other pussy or dick, invest much of your time and resources etc.
Therefore, if you or this OP presented himself as a quality male, note that his girlfriend saw him as an even better male than he presented, and then came the complete mental breakdown, completely destroying the fantasy. While a quality woman will do her best not to leave you after this, and give you a chance to once again set fire on that pussy, many women aren't capable of it, you completely destroyed their ego version of yourself and it's often irreparable.
When women talk about this, you may hear something in the fashion of "It's okay when my man fails/has a bad day/week, I will be there for him, but as long as he doesn't dwell on it too long, that's a huge turnoff."
bilabrin 3y ago
Pic and send to the other two were there for you when we were together
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woodensho 3y ago
That’s exactly 1000% true. You have to make them believe in a fantasy.
HeartbreakHotline 3y ago
Well, the red pill teaches not to go to broken women with trauma past, it’s fair she doesn’t want to be with a broken man with trauma past, or are you going to double standard it?
roundabout44 3y ago
No, we're not going to double standard it. The point of this post is get your shit together or at least don't tell about it until you get it together.
OneTrueQ 3y ago
Its the drunken crying, man. The rest is rationalization. Don’t do that shit.
womans_algorithm 3y ago
You're saying it like it's a bad thing. It's biology. Sure it sucks for betas and boys who don't yet know better, but nature doesn't care.
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LiveAFTSOV 3y ago
You must be new here.
TRP has been using relationshit posts as prime red pill and blue pill examples since its inception.
ForgettingBarryWhite 3y ago
I’m appalled that this post is getting so muxh traction, this sub is going so fucking downhill it’s ridiculous.
Arnoux 3y ago
I don’t understand it. How can a 1 year older boy fuck another boy? I was definitely weak around 12-16 years of age. Skinny and weak. But I am sure I could have done some damage to a 1 year older boy, just enough so he won’t touch me.
If I were a girl I would loose attraction to this guy. If he could not at least stop the act that means he either agreed to it or he have so low level of testosteron that I would not need this man ever in my life if I were a girl.