women will rationalize the victimhood/vulnerability of a serial killer/sexual predator and like him for "who he is"

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while at the same time rationalizing and amplifying the patheticness/weakness of a male sexual assault victim and loathe him for being able to be dominated

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i can guarantee this chick cheated on this guy and fucked the cousin and is probably in the process of a branch swing

I don't think this has to do with women not wanting to see weakness or have their men open up. This woman is obviously not a good person for this, but I think there is the bigger issue that society just doesn't really believe men can be sexually assaulted or raped.

I think the societal logic goes like this: with women it's easier to understand how a man took advantage since women are usually physically weaker and socialized to be non-aggressive. But men are the opposite. So, there is a question of, "How could he have let this happen? They had equal size and power." This thought suggests that the victim either is very weak or didn't try that hard to resist.

It's messed up and a bigger problem than just women not wanting men to open up. The problem is what society says the implications are with what you're opening up about. For example if a man was opening up about grief over fighting in war and losing fellow soldiers/friends, society tells everyone that's a very honorable and understandable weakness. If a man opens up that he is losing touch with reality and having depression caused by the same exact thing, he may not receive the same understanding due to the mental health stigma.

Telling your struggle is not always detrimental for your game, as long as you turned out to be the hero, the strongman, the winner. Some drama-loving chicks even dig it.

What if after he realised he fucked up, he would break her off and act standoff. As if he know what will happen, so he'd just do it himself, and said fuck it, i fucked up.

I think that'd spin her hamster up just a bit.

I know how thing goes, but just a thought...

Was it the way he expressed it or the thing itself?

I still won't believe that you have to put together an act all the time, but more so be careful how you express yourself and of course, keep some unnessecary things to yourself. I can't imagine that sharing trauma for example is impossible.

I told almost every chick that I have an anxiety disorder and the culprits of it, but they see how well I handle it and how fine I am with it and its okay I guess...

If I swallowed the red pill a few years back I'd literally have avoided years of agony and so much wasted time. It's never too late to learn tho

Poor guy needs serious help got that trauma. Until he gets sorted out, this WILL happen to him again.

On the other hand, you can display weakness to get rid of a girl (like a stalker ex). The more you show strength, the worse it'll get, since they feed off drama like a fucking vampire. But if you start blathering on about how mean your boss is, how you quit going to the gym, how you sit at home and don't go out with friends anymore, she'll eventually find another victim.

Women are naturally much smarter than men.

The reason why women value "communication" so much is because a highly transparent, highly truthful man is easy to discard if he becomes too much of a burden or potential burden.

Car owners want a car that communicates all of its problems to the driver so the driver can make smart decisions about fixing the car, selling the car, or abandoning the car.

Women want boyfriends/husbands that communicate all their problems so the woman can make smart decisions about fixing the partner, cheating on the partner, dumping the partner, or milking the partner.

It is more simple than this.

A rape victim is damaged goods. Traumatized. Mental illness. Rape victims do stupid shit like getting drunk and crying at a gathering while word vomiting about their past.

A woman has options. Therefore, she can dump a male rape victim and replace him tomorrow.

However, if you reverse the story, and a man dumps a woman rape victim for being damaged and too much trouble, he is regarded as a monster. This does not happen often, though, because most men do not have options. Most men will work tirelessly to try to make things work with their rape victim girlfriend, as she gets more and more turned off by this clinginess until she is sick of him and finds a random guy at a bar who will fuck her like her rapist did to make her feel more in control of her life.

It's not that he was raped that was the big blow it (though it doesn't help). It's the crying to her about it. She didn't sign up to that. She signed up to the cartoon that you are the rock. That you were the chosen one put on Earth by God as proof of her supreme worth.

If you had told her you were raped as a child as though you didn't care and might smash the guy in to rocks if you ever saw him again, that would only be 10% of the damage, the 90% would be for crying on her shoulder. Telling her she is your new mommy, or caretaker.

Controversial belief:

I don't know how much any of you have internalized that women are not interested in producing results, just spending the results. Women are not interested in brick laying, or tiling or janitorial or any other labor job that produces results with absolute value. Women are not interested in plumbing, or food inspection, or sanitation, or any other mission important jobs. Women are not interested in Math, or physics, or any higher thinking job, they don't care at what temp steel melts. They care only about jobs that control others. Administration jobs, Management, Human Resources, Psychology, Counselors, including Marriage counselors Drug reps, sex driven sales, and now lawyers and doctors.

Here's the controversial part. You've got to be mad to ever visit a woman psychologist, or marriage counselor. It's a sting operation. These women see you the exact same way OPs girlfriend sees him when he cries on her. Women take these jobs to hone their control over man, and to construct societal controls over them.

The more redpill I get, and the more time that goes by, I see men as stupid. Real stupid, almost all of them. Men are more stupid than women are self-centered. If you ever think 'actually' and 'logically.. that would mean' you are probably stupid. You are an insult to logic. Men are cowards that throw manhood under the bus by throwing each other under the bus. I told a man at a coffee shopyesterday I was walking down an isle in Target and a woman started acting all urgent telling her 6 year old son to move out of the way.. out of the way, as if I was a SWAT agent and something was about to go down, when there was plenty of room for me to walk by I told this coffee shop man it pissed me off. He looked at me like I was some kinda perv, only to feel like he was on 'the right side' for a moment. He used the moment to be in denial that any women has ever tried to 'depict' him. He was basic cad, like most men. I didn't even get to the point that when I got right next to this decently attractive woman that I didn't give a fuck about, I said to her, "why?" [the context was clear.. 'why does he have to move out of the way?']. She straightened up her back, stood at attention like she wanted to board my spaceship, and smiled like she was ready for me to talk to her. I paused, not even looking her in the eye then moved on. Women don't act 'afraid' because they are afraid. They do it as some kind of tactic. For example they will do this not because they are afraid (just one example), but because they want to publicly depict themselves as afraid and depict you as the problem to have an upper hand, and set themselves up to manipulate other's instinct to protect them. But in my case there was no one there to see. Maybe she was signaling to me that she acknowledges me as a dominant figure. That's how this one seemed because of her later accepting behavior. Maybe she was doing it so there is some kind of relationship or link between her and me. Lots of relationships start after an initial emotional conflict. I don't know. I haven't figured it all out. One thing I know for sure is she was NOT fearing her child was about to get hurt.

Do not think women think like you do. Do not think 'logically, she wouldn't...' women have something superior, not inferior to logic.. brute lizard brain intelligence, that makes great use of men's commitment to their over-simplified 'logic'. They cast out body language, voice tone, and words like magic spells is more reliable to control their environments than men use math. They push buttons that rely on men's 'instinct to protect', 'to do what is 'logical'', 'to take the hit to make sure they aren't the problem'.

Women use primarily their lizard brain. They get away with hell because men are in denial that lizard brain intelligence is superior to logic and reason because logic and reason are just, and women ultimately must fold to what is just. No they don't, because men think that's enough reason for it to happen. Men are stupid.

btw, I'm a man. I'm woman smarter than 99% of other men and still pretty woman stupid.

This makes me really wish that the blue pill fantasy was real..

Survival of the fittest. We would not be as healthy/smart/strong, if women would not have been attracted to the best the most. Can't blame evolution. Take it or leave. It's not fair, but it is a game.

Also a lot of women do care for the disadvantaged. They just don't want their seed.

You know, it gets thrown around a lot that men can't talk about their feeling or be vulnerable. We've been cultured to become this hard shell, however, we suffer as a result because the things we don't share eat us up on the inside.

In my experience,I've never met a woman who I've shared things with who has either used them against me,or was less attracted to me as a result.

Granted my experience, isn't that wide and I choose extremely carefully the people I share things with because majority of people are shit. What I can give in terms of advice for who ever decides to read this, is try to be a good judge of character. The character of the person whom you are with is important in deciding what or if to share.

If she is a shitty person, you bet your ass she'll use that as ammo,or depending on the severity,she will detach from you completely. Also, talk to a counsellor or a psychiatrist. Issues like that have to be dealt with properly such that you wouldn't feel need to share it.

While it's always better to start off strong and in an "asshole" way and calibrate yourself in a LTR to a masculine, yet human version instead of starting off like a pussy and then enforcing masculinity, this post makes it all black and white while it isn't like that.

In a LTR, or hell, even a hookup during the courting phase it is welcomed to show weakness. But not like the bitch in the OP's post.

Showing weakness should be done ONLY, and ONLY after you've overcome the obstacle and made it a lesson and a productive experience for your character from a position of power. If you frame it like that, the girl will not only think of you as weak but rather give you extra points.

"The grumpy stoic guy actually has a softer side but is not a pussy and it only made him stronger!" is the hamster you want to spin.

While it's extremely hard to spin the story from the OP's post, if he had confessed this from a position of power, for example, while consoling his girlfriend from a position of power, and saying something like "I've gone through it with a shrink, shit happened, I'm glad I got it out of the way, I even helped a couple of other victims as well and now they're all much better as well." in a sober, deep and calm voice, he might have had a chance to spin this into an experience that made him human, yet strong.

A mental breakdown while drunk with tears only signalized that it's deeply troubling him, that he's severely damaged and didn't overcome the trauma. Pure weakness.

Similar thing happened to me a while back with an ex. Except I wasn’t drunk or crying.

Difference was I’d already dealt with it myself mentally, and just told her as she was probing.

Same thing happened. Insta turn-off for her. A slight hint of sympathy but didn’t really give a toss.

I learned my lesson there. I regretted saying it as soon as I told her.

Trauma needs to be dealt with internally first/with a therapist. Some women care, but most really don’t, and some will outright resent you for it. Best practice, STFU.

Never ever not ever tell a woman your problems

You can tell your gal stuff that you've gone through (although, that case is a bit extreme), just keep it within your frame and make it clear through yourself that that shit is in the past and you're not that same person. You don't have to cover all your shit up for your girl, you just have to have 0 insecurities about it and as always, be high value

Real talk this has nothing to do with being a RedPill, chick wasn't the one. If a woman you've been with for a year doesn't accept you with flaws and shit, then you either break up or find someone else. Simple. We all got traumas, ptsd, etc. Im glad he found out sooner than later, the point of being in a relationship 100% is to be vulnerable and open to one another. Thats the begining of the foundation of a relationship. Dude just stumbled on a side ho

Women are like police. A child police. Anything u say will be against you

Remember, women are as predatory as the guy who raped this young man was. More so. And as all predators do, they have a radar that is constantly pinging for weakness.

Your making this more malicious than it really is. Yes, women are attracted to physical/mental strength in men for obvious evolutionary/survival reasons, but it's generally subconscious. It's all feelings and tingles to them. They're not actively scanning people like the Terminator lol.

In one word: they don't care about your struggle,only results. She smelled that he is not past of his truma, so she lost her attractiveness towards him.

Holy shit this thread is horrible, what happened to this sub?

Theory: the woman doesn't know how to react to knowing he has sexual trauma because she has never been faced with that situation before and might physically not be sure what to do and think that even touch might "trigger" some bad memories back to the guy.

If you say it drunk, it still counts. If you want this Norton 650, I'll buy it.
My Dad, the day after he offered me a high end Norton motorcycle that 2 Brooklynn thieves had stolen and were offering him to buy for me. It was n't for me, I turned it down and my father was greatly relieved to not have to buy me a motorcycle cause he said he would when they got him drunk.

But don't get drunk. Frame control is extremely important. Nothing we don't already know.

Ehh ya’ll just ain’t found the right woman. I had a girl who heard trauma as bad as this shit and she loved me more for being vulnerable. Not all women are like this, or maybe I just found a unicorn.

the moment I opened up in my previous relationships, the relationships started rolling downhill.

And if only it was a girl who was a rape victim the guy would accept her blindly with all her flaws.

Tbh most women I know would not act like the way this woman did. I really don't understand why this post is here. She is a shitty woman with shitty beliefs.

Remember, women are as predatory as the guy who raped this young man was. More so. And as all predators do, they have a radar that is constantly pinging for weakness. EXPRESSING WEAKNESS TO A WOMAN IS A DEATH SENTENCE, NO MATTER HOW 'REAL' THE SENTIMENT IS. Save that shit for your homies.

You're Delusional.

Women are not interested in you. They are interested in the character they have of you that exists in their head. If you like your woman, act in a way that allows her to maintain that character in her head.

I'm all stoicism but this sounds sociopathic "act in a way that allows her to maintain that character in her head" who has time for this shit?

Do not express weakness of any kind, no matter how legitimate, to a woman.

Not Possible.

And lastly, don't get drunk with your woman. You want to have a few pops, fine. But don't get drunk.

Again not possible.

Frame control is extremely important. Nothing we don't already know.

Only real thing that you have said so far.

Tbf, You seem pretty delusional on how relationships work. Seems like you need to read the sidebar again and get past your anger phase.

women are interesting in the character of you they have in their head.

That’s exactly 1000% true. You have to make them believe in a fantasy.

Well, the red pill teaches not to go to broken women with trauma past, it’s fair she doesn’t want to be with a broken man with trauma past, or are you going to double standard it?

Its the drunken crying, man. The rest is rationalization. Don’t do that shit.

Remember, women are as predatory as the guy who raped this young man was. More so. And as all predators do, they have a radar that is constantly pinging for weakness.

You're saying it like it's a bad thing. It's biology. Sure it sucks for betas and boys who don't yet know better, but nature doesn't care.

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