There's something oddly satisfying in accomplishing things by working with your hands. Something that has a definite start and finish and can be seen by others. The experience in doing projects with your hands are something that stick with you for a long time. Today, the fix to the next problem is a phone call and $300 quote away. With that, the satisfying feeling of doing shit yourself becomes better. Of course, you should always value your time and look at the opportunity cost of investing time into doing something yourself vs paying a professional to do it. But there is a point where you break even and are better off doing it yourself.
Most males today work 9-5 weekday jobs and binge video games, social media, tv shows, porn, and whatever else chumps do on the weekends. Today's society makes it more lucrative than ever to get into a trade like plumbing, woodworking, automotive, construction, etc. Why? Because society is creating lazy men. I'm not sure if it's the environment I'm in (university frat life), or if this is happening everywhere. My experience has been that many people are quick to shell out hundreds of dollars to someone else to fix something without EVEN looking at it themselves! They'd rather lay in bed scrolling through their phone while a technician makes a few hundred bucks off of them.
When I first moved into a house with 6 other frat bros, I was amazed that our dishwasher was broken and no one had even attempted to fix it. The landlord takes forever to do anything, and the dishes were stacking up in the sink. 15 minutes, a YouTube video, and a screwdriver later and I got the dishwasher up and running. Two of my roommates were amazed that I fixed it and asked how I got it working, that they would have never figured it out. I just vaguely told them that I had a knack for fixing things. Truth is, I had never touched a dishwasher prior to that in MY LIFE. But I'll tell you what I didn’t do: I didn’t go into my room and play video games for hours and wait for it to fix itself.
Being in a house full of 6 other men, I thought some of the guys would be at least a little handy but I was quickly proven wrong. Some dumbasses made a bunch of holes in our walls from all the parties they would throw. I'm not talking about small holes, these things looked like there was a WWE wrestling match in our house. One of our roommates had his uncle quote us $500 to get them patched up. Well, he didn't even follow up with his uncle about fixing them and our landlord was coming to check out the house in the next few days. I'll be damned if I lose my $500 deposit because these lazy fucks weren't going to do anything. $100, YouTube, and a few hours later and I patched all the drywall good as new. I had never messed with drywall, sheetrock, any of that in my life. I had no clue what I was doing to be honest. But the walls looked great and I charged everyone $200 for materials and labor and bought myself some beer. I should have charged them more for ruining my Saturday night plans.
This weekend, this girl I've been seeing came over. Her car window got smashed in and the insurance wasn't going to cover it. The quote to fix the window was + $300. Well, $36, YouTube, a trip to the junkyard, and a few hours later and she had a brand new window. I've never installed a window before. Are you catching onto the big idea now?
There are countless times when I was a kid that I would be pissed at my father for turning off my Nintendo so I could help him fix shit around the house, change the oil in a car, etc. Despite having no formal education and working 12 hours 6 days a week, he liked to build or fix everything on his own and would make me help him. I'm now grateful for the lessons this has taught me today.
Look, I'm not telling you to go be Bob the fucking builder. But you will be amazed at the amount of men who shell out hundreds of dollars on something that’s probably a $20 fix. Value your time and know when it's best to hire someone else. But more often than not, it's probably better to do shit yourself. I sure don't make $100 an hour so the time invested to fix drywall or a car window was definitely worth the 2-3 hours it cost me to do it. Plus, it’s attractive to women. I'm curious to hear everyone's experience on this subject.
TL;DR: Attempt to fix shit yourself before paying someone else hundreds of dollars to do so. Most of the time it won't cost more than some YouTube research, an hour or two, and the cost of materials.

HerefortheTuna 7y ago
This is a great post. The dryer just shit the bed last night and I came home to clothes strewn all over the house. I will be figuring out how to fix a dryer this weekend
AnyHead 7y ago
Recently read Matthew Crawford's "Shop Class as Soulcraft." I think the UK version was called something like, "The Case for Working With Your Hands." Author was a dude who worked in a Washington DC think tank until getting tired of all the bullshit and leaving to open a motorcycle repair shop. Highly recommend.
Beyond the psychological benefits and personal growth that comes from manual work, he gets into how educational systems pivoting to set children up for the "knowledge economy" has only made our jobs more vague (no clear-cut start and finish, as you mentioned) and our lives more miserable by extension.
lunaluis 7y ago
Totally agree!! When I was deciding my career choice, that was the biggest thing I took into account.
I did civil engineering because that is probably the biggest example of working on a project with a definite end result that many people will see, use, and touch years after I’m probably dead. It’s still very much information and technology based, but the end result that can be measured gives a sense of satisfaction.
Zech4riah 7y ago
I value my time. That's why I rather work for the time that I would "waste" on changing the tires, changing oil or fixing dishwasher. That's because working equal time enables me to pay someone to do those things (a professional who gives guarantee) and I even get to keep some of the money because I make more money per hour than those professionals are charging per hour.
When you actually start making money, you will understand this mindset. If I had low income, I'd probably think as you do. Ofc this is only the financial side.
Sometimes I do fix something myself but that's just because I'm interested to do it for some reason.
lunaluis 7y ago
Right, I mentioned that in my post.
Saving money is just a plus, the real take away is the learning experience and the feeling that you have control and are self sufficient about your surroundings. That you can fix stuff around you as it breaks without having to rely on someone else gives you confidence not easily taken away.
I’ll be making more than technicians as well but this mindset is above just monetary value.
Zech4riah 7y ago
Yes but you are really emphasizing financial aspect more than anything else:
lunaluis 7y ago
Yea I am because that’s what many men can more easily relate or empathize with. I’ve been suckered out paying too much money for something I could have probably done myself.
The concept that you can get shit done on your own is more important than that though. Someone else commented how their 90 year old millionaire grandpa still does stuff himself around the house.
WingLeviosa 7y ago
Absolutely agree. I was a jet engine mechanic in the Air Force before becoming a linguist. Now, I work on boats and outboard/sterndrive engines. Love it! I wear the cuts and bruises and scars on my hands and arms as badges of honor.
Virtusvitium 7y ago
Yall sounds like kids learning how to be men. I just assumed every guy could fix random shit around the house and cars. Didn't know I was a rare breed.
RiskyRewarder 7y ago
I'd rather be Bob Villa than Bob the builder.
Compeliminator 7y ago
this is an area i accel at. im 55 and ive had a job working on something since i was 14. 1st job was putting new motorcyckes together out of the crate. i have years of automotive and hi perf experience. ive worked as an a@p aircraft mechanic since 86. im a certified aircraft welder. i have a shop full of sheet metal and machining equipment. i have a lot of electric experience automotive and commercial. ive allways repaired everything myself . when i was a kid growing up most guys my age had atleast basic knowledge of cars motorcycles etc. shit most people dont even mow thier own yards anymore
untitled56 7y ago
I replaced my car window and window regulator when someone smashed my window. Pocketed the extra $1,000 from insurance.
deathhandmachiavelli 7y ago
It depends on the guy. I HATE fixing things and don't get any satisfaction for it. I fix things when I have to, but I don't find any fun in it, nor do I feel better about myself after I do it.
Just_Another_Wookie 7y ago
That the Universe will forever increase in entropy is one of the few fundamental rules of reality. There isn't a more basic tenet than the fact that everything breaks eventually. I'd argue that a man who doesn't take satisfaction in tilting at the Universe and staving off the chaos around him isn't much of a man at all.
deathhandmachiavelli 7y ago
I looked at your history and you're an opiate addict. So right back at you, any man who is addicted to a substance isn't much of a man at all.
Just_Another_Wookie 7y ago
I'm aware. I'm here to improve.
iknowthewhey 7y ago
I fully agree with you here. I try to do almost everything I can by myself rather than having someone else doing it for me. Whether it's using power tools, cooking my own food, or repairing something, I prefer to do it myself. It is much more in accord with nature to be self-reliant and not need someone else to fix all your shit.
I watched my great-grandfather at the age of 90 climb ladders and fix his own house like he had his whole life even though he had millions. Our generation didn't just lose the work ethic, it lost the confidence of self-sufficiency. Every time I see my father, he is always fixing something at the house because he knows how to take ownership of his space and his surroundings. The more you rely on other people in life, the more you consciously and subconsciously feel like a slave.
Olongapo 7y ago
There are fewer higher demonstrations of competence than being able to repair both minor and major items in your life, to fabricate things, or know where to get it done. These are skills I learned from my father, uncles, trade programs, the military, books, other male mentors, and yes, Youtube. Many men today cannot even change a flat tire.
This is less than attracting female attention but more about being able to move in an often confusing world with grace and confidence.
I would posit that these skills are as important as all the other basic Red Pill tenets, I think it's time to elevate them to the same level as lifting, frame, and stoicism.
Respect for all you guys that fix things. Most men can't these days.
trees-for-breakfast 7y ago
Standard DIY jobs will be able to be learned by watching YouTube videos. For the love of god, don’t mess around with electrics or plumbing you’ve learned from a YouTube tutorial because that is just fucking stupid, you’ll end costing yourself an incredible amount more by fucking it up and you could kill yourself. Fix things you can, get a professional in when you need to.
ganesh2394 7y ago
I just replaced the keyboard of my laptop by myself and I know exactly what you're talking about. As an Electronics guy working in IT I really missed playing with hardware!
NormalAndy 7y ago
Ultimate dread game. She relies on you and she knows it.
Dextorian 7y ago
As men our ability to fix things has always been a part of our nature, I work in construction and can put my hand to almost anything! Always a sense of accomplishment when you can repair things yourself
masterpiece00 7y ago
This is exactly why the world is the way it is today. are you new here? because this is absolutely beta - she needed you for what you can do for her, you're her time and sweat whore - you put in hours of your life for HER, her frame, whilst she leaves with a new windshield on the way to her next fuck.
LandoChronus 7y ago
I just left he automotive industry after 3 years of being fucked over by greedy shop owners and businesses/companies.
Just because a job is in demand, does NOT mean you'll be paid for it.
That being said, knowing how to fix my own cars, or things in my house, build things, cook at home (I also went back to restaurants to be a chef) are all things that girls find attractive, and save me money.
But the whole "trades make you money!" idea needs a slight chilling out.
vullnet123 7y ago
Depends where you are . Big cities , union trades make big money. The laborer unions pays their people $43/hr after 2-3 years
lunaluis 7y ago
Also definitely depends who you work for too. Either way, trades are more lucrative than many useless college degrees now a days.
I’m sure there’s many plumbers, electricians, etc that make way more than some useless college major.
frenchfortomato 7y ago
I agree with you insofar as the ability to fix things, and the attitude it takes, are desirable ends in themselves.
Lost my job about 6 months ago, and have been making ends meet by repairing farm & construction machinery. Bought a shitty utility body truck from a water company for $2900, and without any certs or degrees, have been doing OK-it's been a great experience for the past 6 months. I can fix pretty much any machine common in everyday life- including in the house- and I'm learning how to run a business, which is something that your employer will (deliberately) never teach you when you're a W-2 employee.
Working in mud and grease for about a $20/hour profit isn't my long-term career objective- but I have learned that I greatly prefer being self-employed, and have decided to stick with it. I never could have done this without the attitude OP is describing, so I'm grateful that I'm dumb enough to "do it myself" sometimes.
MentORPHEUS Senior Endorsed 7y ago
If she grew up with a Blue Collar father who she loved, then you're in like Flynn. Middle and upper class women can be absolute cunts to you if they're the type that think blue collar workers are beneath them; again with the possible exception of having had a handy/hobbyist father.
I recommend every man learn a few basic household and automotive tasks toward the goal of self sufficiency. Play to your strengths; there is a certain amount of inborn talent required to become advanced. Doing stupid shit like walking around the whole car with a can of expanding foam insulation "fixing" loose or cracked pieces is a good sign you should leave things to the pros.
There was an interesting vignette that played out recently in the lumber section of a Home Depot on a busy Saturday. This yuppie couple was pacing and fuming waiting for someone to come and help them load some (non-difficult) lumber onto their cart. I rolled up and started taking down 4X8 plywood 2 sheets at a time from a high shelf. She watched with gaping amazement for a moment then turned and started carping at him. He watched with annoyance, then took his wife's bait with humiliated exasperation. No idea how they planned to handle these boards once they got them home.
vullnet123 7y ago
For sure . Some women look at me in absolute disgust when I’m walking from my car to the job site because I’m in construction gear. Same women who’ll talk to you later at the club when you’re all dressed up. I have a pretty dope journeyman I work occasionally and he was saying the same shit
swagswag1000 7y ago
absolute disgust. seems like a bit of an exaggeration. but i mean, if you're for real.. then god damn, that's crazy.
KellsUser 7y ago
Couldn't agree more. Women love my "Man hands" I have from being a carpenter.
People are shocked that I work construction because I clean up well and drive an Audi.
vullnet123 7y ago
Surprised you don’t have a truck. Half the apprentices in my class had a truck note before even getting in the union
halfback910 7y ago
Especially with google you have no excuse. A plumber will charge you 100 bucks for something that would cost you 5 bucks and 5 minutes.
That_Deaf_Guy 7y ago
Absolutely. Helped a FWB put together a huge unit (chest of drawers and cupboards) as she gawped in amazement whilst me and her sister did the legwork. When we were alone after, she was ready to jump my bones then and there. Women get off on it, it's a primal thing.
darchetype 7y ago
Good topic but I think the major point you missed is that building, creating, fixing, and tackling problems yourself creates positive feedback loops.
Those healthy short-term and long-term dopamine rushes that stem from a sense of pride and accomplishment (and hopefully a job well done) help fuel your feelings of increased confidence, self-reliance, and the urge to do more. Self-reliance is so important (to a certain extent) and what we should always strive for as red-pilled men.
lunaluis 7y ago
I thought the same could be said for any habit, even negative ones. Some people get more of a dopamine rush by getting hundreds of likes on an instagram photo. This gives them the same sense of confidence and positive feedback, even though in reality it probably doesn’t mean much.
I don’t think a lot of males in todays society even get that sense of pride and confidence you mention by being self reliant. Just like some of my roommates, they prefer to get those feelings via video games, social media, or whatever.
I have no idea if it’s university environments looking down on blue collar work, if it’s unique to my experience, or if it’s common everywhere. But more and more beta males seem to prefer to get those feelings you mentioned via other outlets that realistically don’t provide much extrinsic value. The only value I can see is that it “feels good.”
deadstick_it 7y ago
The industrial revolution is probably more to blame for all of this. Back in the day, men went out to work in the pasture and weren’t at a factory where their young boys couldn’t go. Once boys grew old enough to no longer need their mothers, dad told them to get out here and help me mend fences, build a barn, plow fields or various hard work farming things.
Fathers brought their boys around groups of other hardened men and they poked fun at the boy. Some light banter here and there. The boy was always around his dad and other real men and he learned how to be a real man and do real man shit.
Fast forward to now. The man leaves the wife and kids behind to go to work. The wife raises the boy but the problem is she isn’t a man so she doesn’t know how to make a boy into a man. Boy grows into a beta who can’t do man shit and then pays hundreds of dollars to have real men come fix his stuff while he plays video games. Now this doesn’t even go into the single mom thing which triples down on the process.
I almost cringe inside when friends ask me if I saw X show on tv or the game that was on. My response is always that I’m to busy doing man business to watch tv. Which is true. I have plenty of projects to work on and it keeps my busy. I can’t wait to finish my shop so I can start a frame off restoration of an ‘86 Chevy Suburban that I’m going to put a Cummins diesel in. The best part about this is what this thread was kind of all about, I just about don’t even know what the fuck I’m doing. I’m going to tear into this bitch and learn along the way.
Herdsengineers 7y ago
it's amazing how much money and aggravation you can save by learning basic maintenance. just remember to turn off the breakers if messing with electricity and close the valves on anything water or gas related before messing with them, and take pics of everything before disassembling.
WeRAllOnThisBlessedD 7y ago
So many “men” these days don’t even know how to fix a flat tire, it’s fucking sad. They’d rather sit in their bedrooms hunched over their computer and masturbating than actually learning useful skills.
Women love dudes who know how to fix things. It shows that you know how to take charge of a situation and deal with it, which, like so much else, boils down to confidence. If you try to fix you car and end up fucking it up, at least you tried. She’ll know you’re not afraid of getting your hands dirty.
Of course, impressing women shouldn’t be your main reason for doing anything. Learn to fix your own things for your own good. It boosts your confidence, and it saves you a shit load of money.
Howdoiusesync 7y ago
I've installed ceiling fans, and light switches as a kid with my dad. Now anything I do with building furniture and such even installing my own ceiling fan is almost like meditation to me.
Sucks how working with computers digital doesn't have that same effect but with sound-design it's very much the same.
TheEgyptianConqueror 7y ago
Just did my brake pads on a car with an electronic parking brake. Usually an expensive service since you need a computer to retract the parking brake. Someone on YouTube said it can be done with a 9V since the brake is just a servo motor, so $57 for pads (I got the good shit) a 9V, and some wires off of a broken weed wacker instead of $200-$300
dons_sunglasses 7y ago
This post couldn't have come at a better time. My car's right windshield hinge became corroded. The dealership gave me a quote of $400. Ten minutes of looking on Youtube and I found out that I can do it myself and buy the hinge on Amazon for only $70.
Sometimes it's great to have a reminder that you can just do shit yourself.
s1500 7y ago
Spending whole weekends fixing up a Triumph Spitfire was so liberating. No computers, just me and old tech. I would be a mess afterwards, but the car would run again.
UnbreakableButts 7y ago
Recently had to do some car maintenance. Got quoted $330 for rear brakes and rotor. $60 in parts, $40 in tools and an hour and half of struggling on my own and I save myself $250 bucks along with being able to do this for myself again in the future.
What's funny is when I told one of my liberal friends I was doing my own brakes he laughed at me and told me I was retarded for even attempting it, yet when I told my conservative friend he said "well of course you're going to do it yourself, it's super easy".
nofears 7y ago
I agree that there is something immensely satisfying about fixing something with your own hands. Car repairs, home renovation, whatever... Shit, even doing yard work. I could pay some kid 25 bucks to cut grass and landscape my yard, but the feeling I get from maintaining my own domain is worth the time to me.
I can accomplish stupid corporate bullshit goals all week at work, but all that pales in comparison to the pride I get from just one hour of working with my hands on my own projects.
redaftrp 7y ago
If you’re confident in your endeavor, women will find it attractive no matter what. Confidence is the key, what you’re doing is secondary in their mind.
Johnnyvile 7y ago
This is spot on with what I believe a man should regularly do in their daily/weekly life. Something creative, something technical, and something to do with your hands. For me I play guitar, bass, and drums(creative), I work in the tech industry so I always learning, automating, programming and teaching myself electric engineering to fix some audio devices(technical), and I build shit like shelves for studio racks or my own guitars for fun(working with my hands). Those always keep me learning and I can fix shit logically and physically.
I strongly agree on professional cost compared to my time. On somethings if I won’t save a lot of money compared to having someone do it or it will take too much of my time compared to a professional getting it done quickly I will just pay someone. Like an oil change. It’s easy, I can and have done it but the time for me to do it and dispose of the oil isn’t worth me just paying $35 bucks to wait 15 minutes a few blocks away from my house. A studio rack shelf was like $300 for a simple ass wood shelf that didn’t look the way I wanted so I just went to Home Depot and spent part of a Saturday making and painting one. Also it was a fun way to spend my day working on something.
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throwabcdaway4 7y ago
Still better to have people work for you than doing it yourself
But if you insist ill let you be my janitor no worries bro
lunaluis 7y ago
To a certain point, yes. I already mentioned that in the post.
Howdoiusesync 7y ago
obviously delegation is more optimal but some things ya gotta do it ya self.
Relying on others is a waste of time.
Nikelu 7y ago
Not only this . There is a certain satisfaction doing things yourself. Making a good coffee in a coffee press instead of a machine that just clicks a button. Making a nice meal. I'm going towards traditional a lot lately and I am feeling so much better. I made a birthday cake for a friend instead of buying it the other day. It cost pretty much the same , but it took me an hour and I made something myself , everybody enjoyed it so much . Gives another kind of satisfaction. People were like you made this?? This was like the second time I make this cake. Learned the basics the first time, then got creative. It's all about creativity and creating stuff imo