You can, at your own risk of actually losing her.

Because women don't actually appreciate deep conversations such as philosophical and if you essentially reveal your pussy/valnurable feelings to her like a hand of poker cards you'll literally lose the game.

If you can. That's the laconic answer.

The longer one is its almost impossible to have a deep and meaningful conversation with a woman. At least one that is meaningful to a man that is. Women are usually too interested in the small world that surrounds them and to actually discuss meaningful things. How many philosophers and influential thinkers are women? How many women have discovered something new about the world? Its not in their nature. I have never managed it. Not once in my life.

Occasionally I have met an intelligent woman (of any age, background or sexual orientation) and had an intelligent conversation (maybe a dozen times in my life) and thought "By all the gods that is attractive!" (even when she has been old or relatively plain). Sadly it has never been in a situation where a relationship was appropriate. I would love to have an intelligent woman I could share ideas with and who would actually be glad of it.

The last time I thought I was close to getting to a meaningful conversation with a woman it was an error. We were talking meaningless stuff that mattered to her but she had no substance to her mind. I just wanted to bang her and that was leading my mind on. Soon she was trying to convince me that the earth was actually flat, that the moon landings were fake and to draw elves while on LSD. It particularly amused me once when after sex she told me how her ex would never have a meaningful conversation with her but had good conversations with male friends. I thought "I know why". Her idea of meaningful was hippie bullshit -her hive was hippy chicks. With post nut clarity, I knew I was basically done.

This brings me to the point. You can have a conversation a woman thinks is meaningful but it is not likely to be anything you find meaningful. If you want to use this as a bonding thing with women its fine but I suggest these two rules:

1. Keep yourself and your views out of the picture, make it about letting her open up about her ideas and exploring them. Women do not like their worlds to be challenged. A different view is not interesting but threatening to most women.

2.Only have these conversation when she leads into it. Its very rare that anyone had a deep meaningful conversation without wanting it. If you try too hard you run the risk of looking too earnest. A man who is too earnest is usually in a woman's mind a dork trying too hard.

Your bottom paragraph was the dumbest shit I've ever read.

Game is about starting a rapport with women. Women are humans. Human beings talk. Therefore you need to talk.

You're making a very bad mistake thinking that women are visually based I their attraction. Women are not men.

Look, you can't fix your dating life on here by asking this question.

Women usually aren't deep. But if you can have a deep convo, then sure, do it.

Ultimately do what works FOR YOU

Only betas think talking about “real” “deep” stuff is interesting to girls.

You are throwing around “beta” to just mean something that isn’t attractive to women, or someone who doesn’t have perfect game. Let’s not get autistic about alpha and beta here.

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IME, mostly they don’t want deep convos (even if they say they do). But don’t take that without nuance like all they want to talk about is crime shows and gossip. In my opinion, most of this comes down to differences in what men and women value in conversation.

Men are more likely to want to talk about ideas and concepts that apply to more than just their immediate self and surroundings, like philosophy, science, and social dynamics. But many of them don’t, because they are stupid themselves.

OTOH, I find women talk about a mix of… 1: things that immediately affect them or that are directly around them 2: banal shit like gossip about people you don’t know or care about, Insta posts, shows they watched, etc. But don’t take this too literally to mean that you need to follow the top 100 Insta accounts or whatever so you can talk to them. You can frame some deep topics into a “women-compatible” theme, like talking about spirituality rather than God.

In reality, if you want to have deep convos, you are usually better off with select male friends.

And another note: you can’t just jump into deep convos with randos you just met, men or women. Doing so will make you seem autistic and obsessive about whatever your topic is.

OP, do you have male friends? Do you have any social skills? Is the very first thing you want to talk about with women Quantum Mechanics or Kantian philosophy? That might be your real problem, not what you read online.

To women, a "deep/meaningful conversation" is something that involves them personally, such as getting married, buying a house together, and having children. So, unless you're talking about life-changing situations that involve both of you, no, you should not have "deep/meaningful conversations" with women.

If you are getting into the deep convoys, be prepared to lighten them up.

-so what do you think about Kant philosophies

-he he you should see your face, it said: Kant? I can't even think who it is, don't you see I'm blond?

-oh forget it, I was joking about serious topic, let's go to a beach and I'll let you build sand castles

if she actually gives some good answer

-I'm surprised , when I finished my question your face looked like ... (As above)