Ive been reading redpill theories on r/Theredpill.
Ive seen posts saying deep conversations are good to have with women because it adds mystery and during the conversation it makes her feel like she is on an adventure/adds depth to your character. It makes her want to find out more about you and want to “peel back the layers” of who you are.
On the other hand, ive seen posts saying that no woman wants to have an actual conversation with you. They just want to see a hot guy, exchange social graces, get a good feel for yours, and if you demonstrate social aptitude, fuck you. Only betas think talking about “real” “deep” stuff is interesting to girls. If you have an actual conversation with her, thats when shit starts to get real and that makes her uncomfortable and feel awkward. Instead, you should just “chat shit” and have a stupid, light hearted “fun” convo.
GeorgeIII 1 5h ago
You are throwing around “beta” to just mean something that isn’t attractive to women, or someone who doesn’t have perfect game. Let’s not get autistic about alpha and beta here.
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IME, mostly they don’t want deep convos (even if they say they do). But don’t take that without nuance like all they want to talk about is crime shows and gossip. In my opinion, most of this comes down to differences in what men and women value in conversation.
Men are more likely to want to talk about ideas and concepts that apply to more than just their immediate self and surroundings, like philosophy, science, and social dynamics. But many of them don’t, because they are stupid themselves.
OTOH, I find women talk about a mix of… 1: things that immediately affect them or that are directly around them 2: banal shit like gossip about people you don’t know or care about, Insta posts, shows they watched, etc. But don’t take this too literally to mean that you need to follow the top 100 Insta accounts or whatever so you can talk to them. You can frame some deep topics into a “women-compatible” theme, like talking about spirituality rather than God.
In reality, if you want to have deep convos, you are usually better off with select male friends.
And another note: you can’t just jump into deep convos with randos you just met, men or women. Doing so will make you seem autistic and obsessive about whatever your topic is.
OP, do you have male friends? Do you have any social skills? Is the very first thing you want to talk about with women Quantum Mechanics or Kantian philosophy? That might be your real problem, not what you read online.
No-Stress-Cat 1 1h ago
To women, a "deep/meaningful conversation" is something that involves them personally, such as getting married, buying a house together, and having children. So, unless you're talking about life-changing situations that involve both of you, no, you should not have "deep/meaningful conversations" with women.
SwarmShawarma 1h ago
If you are getting into the deep convoys, be prepared to lighten them up.
-so what do you think about Kant philosophies
-he he you should see your face, it said: Kant? I can't even think who it is, don't you see I'm blond?
-oh forget it, I was joking about serious topic, let's go to a beach and I'll let you build sand castles
if she actually gives some good answer
-I'm surprised , when I finished my question your face looked like ... (As above)