Thanks for your reply What do you mean by stop acting like a doomscroller? What do doomscrollers do?

Why do you think most women try to find new guys? Because of hypergamy right?

Things that are black pill: accepting women prefer tall guys and you can’t change your height, accepting that having no experience in your teens or 20s with girls will make it harder, etc.

No, blackpill is taking that info and deciding that it's hopeless.

Red Pill acknowledges those obstacles, but knows you can mitigate them in other ways.

I think most of my life has been doing things I get no or little benefit from

One thing that drives men towards hopelessness in the game of women is seeing little to no positive result after what is, at least self-perceived as, a significant amount of time or effort spent, whether on one specific woman or women in general.

For men, directly or not, acquiring women (1 or more) is probably the single largest life/money/time/energy expense they will pay.

After being able to fund their own base lifestyle, men try to earn more to get more/better women or to raise a family (women again). Most men, even if they don’t admit it, even if on this post they won’t admit it, go to the gym and eat healthy to improve their odds with women. Men obviously learn game to get with women. Heck, men addicted to pornography quit it because they would rather have real sex with real women. I myself am in the process of learning how to dance, at least in part, to get more/better women.

So if a man tries to improve in some or all of these things, and still sees little or no improvement in results after months or even years, it’s no surprise they want to give up. For almost any other skill/attribute, you expect to see an improvement after a year of effort (new sport, starting a business, developing a social network).

Coupled with how most families made in the US are expected to end up divorced and broken, and even “success” (getting a wife and kids) sounds like a poor result. It’s essentially “the juice ain’t worth the squeeze” but on a meta level, rather than on one specific woman.

Imagine you are a total loser today, and after 3 years of red pill self improvement, you will only be able to pull a 3/10 or worse, and she still wouldn’t respect you because you are 5’8”. If you thought that was your ultimate fate after those 3 years, it might really be better to resigning yourself to just masturbating all day. (I’m not trying to assert this stuff with the 3/10 is actually correct, just the mindset that is becoming more common today.)

Without spending all this time on red pill self improvement and all that, a single man doesn’t need a whole lot to survive decently. Small apartment to rent, PC, a hobby or 2, and a few male friends in a similar boat. And in terms of effort this is obviously much easier than the full gym-game-money-diet-date-rejection grind. You have to really enjoy at least part of that grind for the self improvement loop to be sustainable.

This is the real danger of having shittier women/family outcomes to society at a meta level. If all men collectively became hopeless black pill, there would be no more excess effort, excess production to sustain and grow society. No businesses would be started, we would all be fat pigs eating pizza on a couch, who never go outside and talk to people.

I personally think such a pointless, lazy existence is greater torture than the grind. And I believe many men, including many here, agree. But I hope you can see where the black pill doomer mentality comes from.

I’m also very interested in seeing how the invention of AI girlfriends/sexbots changes society.

As a similar example, we had a “body positivity” movement started essentially as a cope for people (women mostly lol) who know they are unhealthy and unattractive. Body positivity was an excuse for these people to not work out or diet and absolve themselves of responsibility for their issues. But the moment this Ozempic stuff comes out, it’s all the height and the “body positive” people are out here taking it in droves.

AI girlfriends could end fruitless “juice squeezing” for lower SMV men entirely. But then their contributions to society might also disappear…

-End Rant