(I'm looking for general advice. Maybe there's a flaw in my mindset.)
I did research and just life experience. The average body count for a 25 year old woman is 3-5.
I'm pretty depressed hearing this tbh. Cause you know it's just gonna get higher. Not to mention most girls I see in a relationship act very sexual for attention. Bitchy behavior.
Cold approach is a lone wolf fantasy imo. Outta approaching 100 women you get maybe 1-3 lays/success's. (if you're not retarded)
That's a lot of squeezing for a cup of juice. Maybe and just maybe they turn into a plate or a LTR.
You try to use social context to your advantage dating in ecosystems like Uni. or clubs. But then I feel like "DaT GuY". Cause I don't like being around people much it's a lot of bullshit. Guess get over it.
My thought process: Ideally you cold approach outside your ecosystems. And build slow leads inside your ecosystems to find a good prospect.
Online dating is a dumpster fire. Its not real life. People act very differently IRL. Most of the woman either all have the same generic profile or goth/liberal chick who wants me to have a tramp stamp. I switched my profile to be labeled as a woman for 5 mins and had 20 likes. ITS CRAZY.
But at the end of all the work it's the women your left with.
I don't trust women with marriage. And even in LTRs when you're not there they're flirting with other guys for attention. I've had good looking girls with decent guys give me sexual attention. I know its not cheating but if I saw my gal acting like that i'd be disgusted.
The problem:
So i'm left with casual dating women the rest of my life. No marriage. maybe have a LTR here and there but... It's gonna get harder and harder the older I get.
It's weird cold approaching in your late 30s and 40s and 50s. Im 20 so i can pass off as the young stupid guy.
How da hell do I keep this up? assuming i take care of my body to be physically attractive. Do I just end up single and alone around 40? Do I just give in a find a LTR at 40?
I'm just going be a normal guys who has his own place with generic normal salary. At some point i become 40 year old guy who's still single.
I'm uncertain of the future with todays modern landscape. Because alot of women are like scorpions and i'm playing frogger.
I feel that hollywood glamorizes the eternal bachelor lifestyle. I'm not a rich guy backed by the script. I'm a normal guy who dosen't trust the institution of marriage and the women i'd be signing it with. I feel my only option is to get lucky and find a good gal someday. But i'd really just be compromising. I feel extremely vulnerable when i'm committed to a woman.
How are you guys doing?

Vermillion-Rx Admin 3d ago Stickied
Serious question.... Have you read the sidebar?
You sound like you spoonfed yourself with fresh and fit for years and are completely detached from what TRP actually talks about
This post is so full of manosphere tropes and zero prize mentality. What the actual fuck
Problematic_Browser 1 2d ago
This isn't hard.
From there, you can either fuck your way through the decline or you can go to a place outside the U.S. where women aren't blown out and find a good woman.
mattyanon Admin 3d ago
Yes, but you can fuck her multiple times. So if you approach 100 girls and fuck 3 of those girls 10 times each, that's one fuck per 3 approaches.
ok, so you hate social game
ok...
OLD is awful, yes
right
Marriage is a one sided providership contract to give her a cushy retirement at your expense.
right
It's certainly going to get harder to fuck 20 year olds after 45, yes
It's only weird because you make it weird
Well, it's easy at 40. It's harder at 50 for sure.
Well, your options are nothing, or keep it casual, or open long term relationships with multiple women (my preferred), or monogamy.
Your post though, amounts to "all my options suck".
And I feel you. We all feel you. But it reads like you are suddenly shocked that you're not going to marry a virgin and you are not going to get the 1940's horny housewife dream.
What does that leave....... well, choose from the above. Varying amounts of casual to monogamy, avoid marriage, and find fulfilment where you can in life.
money doesn't help
good.
stop being normal, start being amazing.
This is not going to happen until you make it happen.
You find a great girl by being a great guy AND LEARNING HOW TO DATE.
Even a great girl will shit test and play all the same shit. At least a little bit. She's not going to be impressed with your neo-virginal "waiting for miss right".
Right, and you really are.
Facing the same shit you are, except in my case I've accepted it more than you have.
WokeDown 4d ago
You’re kinda young to be worried this far out.
One of the things I knew early on is that I was disgusted by the simp crowd, those with lifelong regrets over a woman, and whipped husbands — which I vowed never to become.
It lost me opportunities (maybe?) but I’ve had my fill of short term relationships and LTRs and I wake up everyday thanking god I’m still free.
For every happy ending, there 100 guys with dead bedrooms, cheating wives, raising kids not theirs, slaving themselves to death, a woman that openly or secretly despises them, and a manner of unhappiness etc. I have known and seen this a thousand times over, the fairytale is just that.
Anyway, learn some basic stoicism, no matter the outcome, you can save yourself a lot of anxiety.
I will give you some tips. Your forever alone feeling is a product of evolution to get you to breed. It’s not there for your personal wellbeing, control this mind monkey. We know women is not a long term cure anyway, since they can and will leave.
Second, happy endings are temporary. No permanence in this world. Imagine if Top Gun stuck with Kelly McGillis?
Women are a product of their environment. We’re in a garbage culture with a garbage environment — so you understand the quality of women being pumped out?
Every era presents the men living in it unique challenges. This is ours.
Musicgoon78 3 4d ago
Brother, you're whole mindset is completely negative and wrong. If your mindset is negative, that will come across in your approaches.
First off, let's talk about "cold approaches". Cold approch is a spergs game. This might have worked 20 some odd years ago in the pickup artist days. You see, cold approch isn't attractive, it's intrusive. You are forcing your presence on someone instead of letting them decide that they like you. Your life and personality has to be very well put together with a cold approach attitude. I can tell by your post that it definitely isn't.
Go do fun shit that you enjoy. Talk to everyone without dependence on outcome. If you can't get people to like you or make friends, you're going to be single for a long time. A social guy that's out having fun is attractive to everyone.
I'm in my 40's. I have a live in girl and I also get constantly laid by new women. Your idea of being older and lonely is total bullshit. You're 20's aren't peak smv. That starts around 30 and can go until your mid 40's.
At 34, I was newly divorced, overweight, a dad and pretty much homeless for a while. I was getting laid like never before. The success was simply based on me not giving a fuck about the outcome and embracing my new freedom. It was a new lease on life.
So fix your attitude and go out and make friends of both genders. Your life will change considerably if you do this and stop overthinking things. Life can have it's rough moments, but is overall amazing!
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Musicgoon78 3 4d ago
Did you read and retain any of the stuff I said? I suggested being less negative and you are already making negative and completely untrue assumptions.
At 40 I have zero problems pulling girls as young as 19. I'm not wealthy. And it's very very easy. You see, I have social skills.
If you lead with your money, be prepared to be taken advantage of. It's as simple as that.
It's rare that women in their 30's are attractive? Do you have eyeballs, or is your head planted so far up your ass that you can't see?
Most guys are too socially inept to see how being talkative can help you. If you can't make friends, you'll never get to experience attracting good women. The whole idea is a FWB. Most guys skip the friendship part and are vastly unsuccessful. That's what a girlfriend is.
I don't know what to tell you. You can be a miserable introverted prick if you want to be.
"I'm an introvert" is a weak excuse. And yes you're being a pussy. You obviously don't want a relationship or success.
Either you make changes, or get used to sad jerking off in your parent's basement.
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Musicgoon78 3 3d ago
Yes. It's just like getting friends. It's not mythical or complicated. It doesn't take massive brain power or shit canned lines.
They are just friends with your preferred type of genitalia.
Bro you're honestly very negative.
Here's the deal brother: you can travel the world and the general population could care less if you ever get laid or have success in dating. The guys on here are taking the time to help you because we do care. We call out your blind spots for you to work on, not because we are interested in tearing you down, but trying to help.
I don't think sarcasm is going to help you here. You're more than welcome to your assumptions and insecurities. If it's getting you the results you want, keep on. Otherwise, try something different.