I had a similar thing with my ex girlfriend.

I laid it out real simple for her "I don't do relationship "breaks", either we spend some time to get our thoughts together and discuss this later, or we break up."

We discussed it the next day, she broke up with me... for 12 hours before calling and profusely apologising. She was shocked that I was actually willing to walk away. She had one potential branch swing, but he was a pathetic excuse of a man, so I had the same thoughts as you.

I made the mistake of getting back together with her. Things were never the same after that. We had a brief honeymoon phase again and then it was downhill and downhill, I'd lost a level of respect by taking her back.

So yes, maybe she is overwhelmed by the argument and a few days of thinking (Not pausing the relationship and seeking solace in her best beta friends cock) might calm her down.

Or maybe she does want to cheat - do you really want to be with a girl who wants to cheat one you?

Or maybe it is a shit test - but hell, why the fuck would you want to date a girl who throws this level of shit test at you after a political argument. Then again by losing your cool over politics, you have kind of showed yourself to be a little bit of a bitch.

I'd say your best bet is to own up for any wrong doings on your part in a non-needy way and then be indifferent on the couch. If she wants to take a break, make it clear that it's a break up and you won't be getting back together and remain indifferent on the couch.

This is the true test - are you willing to walk away? Or are you so deeply invested that you have a oneitis? Can you imagine a future without her? Maybe it's not about her, maybe this is about you.

Then again, I got back together with my girlfriend, and I had to go through a year of misery before I realised I had made a big mistake. What will you do?

You pressed the spring too much on your end, so she's going to go far away on the other side. The solution is not to try to approach, but rather to stay put or move away yourself.

She saw you as weak. Own the fuckup for yourself, accept the chance of losing her, accept the chance that if you get back together it won't be the same.

You're now out of your comfort zone. It's a chance to learn about the nature of women. Better now, than after having kids, no?

Up until literally 12 hour after this happen was asking me to hang out with her on a damn near daily basis. When chicks want to go liberate themselves, typically what I hear is that the break is initiated completely randomly

Patters is a male domain.

what I hear

Typical it might not be

BPD can play this hot and cold tactic to the extreme, but BPD is an extreme woman behaviour. Meaning: still a woman.

, before you rush to the comments with your one-liners,

Do you show everyone this kind of spiteful respect? I suggest you go for a hike for 8 months and let's see what can we do for you then.

We all assume she's mentally checked out and ready to ride the cock carousel.

This is commonly the case. it could also be a shit test to see if you beg her to stay. I've had girls try to break up with me because of something they didnt like about our relationship. I responded with the classic "ok" and what followed was a torrent of love bombing and pleading for me to take them back.

please spare me the speech about frame slippage

Do you want honest and genuine feedback or do you want to feel validated for what you did even if it was a mistake? You lost frame. you allowed her to control the frame because she doesnt share your political views. you should never let a woman control your frame. you are the man in the relationship. your views are what matters. women dont even have the mental capacity to think logically and understand politics. never let their naive beliefs sway you. its like going on a rampage because your toddler doesnt believe you when you tell them that Santa isnt real. women are like children and you should treat them with amused mastery, not anger.

This is my LTR of 5 years that was attached at the HIP to me not even a full day before. Calling me several times a day, initiating nearly 100%, attached, sexually submissive.

youre looking at this from the male frame of reference. when a man loves a woman he is loyal to her, he sticks by her side through thick and thin, and those 5 years of being together are something he can't easily let go of. thats not how it works for women. women's "love" is fleeting and is like chaff in the wind. women routinely divorce husbands after decades of marriage and raising a family together, completely blindsiding them. the men are often shocked and had no idea this was coming, and you often hear them make remarks like "I thought we had something special", "we were together for years", "we have a family" etc, etc. women simply dont care about those things the way men do. women are selfish and care about themselves, they live in the moment and will immediately re write history in their heads if their emotions dictate it. 5 years of wonderful memories together become 5 years of you being an unfit boyfriend at the drop of a hat, all because you said or did something she didn't approve of.

So I'm thinking initiate a breakup if she doesn't crawl back in a month or less.

why even give her a month? what is so special about this chick that you cant replace her immediately with another? this sounds like a textbook case of oneitis and scarcity mindset.

the solution is simple. stop investing so much in this one woman and gftow. if shes really into you, she might come back. if not, theres a million women just like her (or even better, like ones who actually see eye to eye with you on politics) and you could upgrade to a better woman.

if you are "red pill aware" you should already know this

80 to 90% of the issues guys ask about on this forum can be solved with abundance

Have you ever broken up with someone? IMO it's harder to break up with someone than to be dumped. These roundabout situations are usually just someone attempting to soften the blow. Usually when one side drops the seed of a break up it has been germinating for a long time before, and even if you think you put that genie back in the bottle it's still there and will come back at a later time. Make no mistake she has decided to break up with you

A lot is missing here so suffice to say that yes one night of drunken fighting can wipe out a relationship depending on what was said.

My advice would be to let her make her decision and you make yours, you aren't negotiating your way out of this and you'll embarrass yourself by trying

she didn't want me to permanently cut her out/how she kept alluding to us "finding each other"

Yahh my ex of 2 year played the same game. Crying to me on the phone when I said I'm just going to block her if we're not going to work this out.A guy I introduced to her laying in bed while she was putting on her performance. Less than 72 hours after we broke up.

Regardless if she has someone or not, she'll warm up to a man with any sort of break or separation. She's suggesting a ridiculous amount of time for you to wait around with your dick in your hand.

Quit frankly you could basically tell her it's all or nothing and be prepared to walk away if she plays games but by the sounds of it, you're more scared of losing her, than she is of losing you.

She's been thinking about this for awhile, just waiting for the opportunity.
Now, she can jump ship because you "were abusive".
If she wants to break up, okay. You can't make her want to be with you.
Next and move on is all you can do.

So you come on here asking for a magic fix and try to tell us what not to say to you... Fuck that. You should've kept your mouth shut. You showed her your political stance was more important than her. And yes, you showed weakness in your frame. I said it and what are you going to do to enforce your rules of telling us what to say?

You're hamstering in an epic way. It's over. You're trying stupid techniques and hoping for some magic phrase to get her back. This is a sunk cost fallacy.

More than likely she was thinking of breaking up and your tantrum convinced her to hit the eject button.

You're going to have to find a few more women and move on.

You are clearly not in charge of this relationship. If a man is not in charge of a relationship, then she will be. If she is in charge of a relationship, then it will always fail. It cannot work.

I notice when I read your long text, that you are always reacting to what she says, you are agreeing to her break up and then getting back together.

My friend, I am sorry to say that this relationship is toast. And it was probably your fault.

Ask yourself this: if you were in love with a woman - would you demand that you break up for 8 months because of a silly political difference? There is a whole lot more going on here. A whole lot. Likely she has been planning her exit for a long time.

TBH - when I read your words, I think you are lying to yourself. In many different passages, you are deluding yourself. This one for example:

" I am 95% confident if I told her the break isn't an option and if she wants to remain with me or have any future chance with me, she would oblige... but I don't want to do that. Not because of some moral high ground, because it'd feel fake."

that sounds deragned to be honest.

This reads like you don't want actual advice, but rather for us to validate your choice for you.

If you take a step back from the small stuff, it sometimes becomes clearer.

Your LTR is not entirely committed. She also does not want to be entirely through.

Why?

1. She want's to soften the blow of an actual break up -possibly.

2. She wants options. More likely. Security is important to women. There may or may not be a candidate for a monkey branch but if there is, he is not locked down, may not even have been taken out of the friend zone yet. He may not be a strong candidate, he may have friend zoned her but she might have hopes. There may be no candidate for the monkey branch only a feeling that actually after 5 years, she is not married, has no children with you but is 5 years older and maybe other hive members appear to have done better over recent years.

3. She is suffering a sort of cognitive dissonance about your differing political views and what her friends/ church members are telling her about how the world should be, its been bugging her a lot and this time the way you reacted brought it home t her that maybe you are not quite right for her -Possible but not too likely without some of reason 2 as well.

4. Massive shit test produced by a chronic build up of stress but triggered by the argument -maybe but not likely.

In the end she is not that in to you. Something will have to change to change that and after 5 years, if you have been being yourself not some other guy she or you think she should be, then you won't be able to change anything, because she is unsatisfied in some way with who you are. Either something changes her mind or she changes it but you, you can't do much because she knows you and finds you wanting.

Miserable relationships usually last until either a woman gets a better option or a man stops trying. (Why leave a safe but less than ideal option unless you are confident that you have somewhere better to go, when you are a woman aware of your weakness in the world?) If you say "its a full break or no break at all" I expect she will back down if you do it in a non angry, not combative way. This will fix nothing but it will mean that she doesn't jump ship now -unless she has another ship all lined up- which is unlikely as the average woman would be just headed there with no remorse by now.

Take some time to think "Do I want to stop trying? Is this juice really worth the squeeze when she will likely be off if a better branch comes along?" You can try talking to her to find out where her dissatisfaction lies. She probably won't tell you straight up, you will have to talk around your relationship and where she is headed in life without starting with the obvious question.

She has gifted you a great chance to get free of a half satisfied woman with no guilt. It could be worth grabbing unless you are confident she will actually see she has no better option than you.