Been with my girl for several months. We’ve met families, she's emotionally invested, affectionate, and overall it's been real.
From the start, I set a clear boundary: no one-on-one meetups with guys. She understood and agreed. Just a few days ago we had a conversation about this.
Now she’s back in her hometown and reached out to a female and a male classmate to meet up. The girl wasn't available and the guy didn’t reply yet, but the intent was there. We’ve had a few serious talks before—about trust, boundaries, and values. And honestly, it’s starting to feel emotionally draining to keep revisiting the same things.
How am I supposed to approach this topic? Is this simply just a value mismatch?
Trying to answer my own question here; I think I need to let the topic reemerge, and just point out the said boundary and distance myself completely from the situation
First-light 1d ago
It is a breaking of boundaries. Its pretty much to be expected. Most women will always want a little bit more than they agreed to, never a little bit less. If you don't pick this one up it will slide further.
Don't start by going nuclear because then it becomes about the argument and your will versus hers not the breach of promise that you actually want to talk about. Don't go in "Looks like I will have to dump you if you don't comply". Start off saying "This isn't what we agreed to" and try to move to "So what are you going to do about it?" and then see where she goes. Try to avoid the "well its over if you don't..." Let her see that for herself and choose whether or not to avoid it. In the end you may have to dump her but use the last resort as a last resort or you become the "bad, paranoid, intolerant, controlling guy using emotional manipulation" that the left love to call men, not simply the victim of a broken agreement.
taya2002 1d ago
Is this a conversation that I should address head on? Because I didn't say anything regarding this when she mentioned it. So, I am unsure about the timing since she is in vacation now, and we won't be seeing each other for a month.
First-light 1d ago
If you let it slide, its hard to pick it up later but the timing is bad since you are apart and it makes negativity you can't easily counter with positivity. I think you need to say something along the lines of you realise on reflection that this is a breach of your agreement and you just don't feel right about it. It sits wrong with you. What does she think about that? If there is going to be a disagreement, that looks serious then you can at least say, look lets book mark this and return to it when together. However ideally, if not given anger to push against, she will see on reflection that she was out of order.
If you don't walk your boundaries, they may be moved.
mattyanon Admin 1d ago
Here's the problem, at a deep deep level.
She is crossing boundaries and you are trying to work out how to enforce those boundaries WITHOUT LOSING HER.
You are TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK and she is subtlely pushing boundaries.
And you are now here trying to get us to help you MAKE IT WORK. You are the one trying to make it work, she's the one pushing things.
The fundamental issue is that you are in a weak position and she is probing to find out how weak.
taya2002 1d ago
This actually makes perfect sense. I also find myself saying things such as: 'She is on vacation, I don't want to disrupt that' and other excuses. Which make it clear that I am just trying to find a way to justify her actions without confrontation. I am just sending a text right away
Kloi 1d ago
That's such an elegant way to put it. It's what women naturally do, cross the line, step back but not quit to the line. Repeat until she's ten feet past it, you're screaming about it, wondering how things ever got this bad.
It's multiple, tiny losses over town. Women erode men away when they destroy, it's never one huge blow. Like the waves on castles made of sand.
StomachStent 1d ago
Can you reason whta makes for you
Dont cave in, dont feel the pressure, just plain and simple give your best shot at reasoning what makes it reasonable.
Kloi 1d ago
Next!
While LTRs aren't going to be all rainbows and sunshines, constantly choosing to stay committed to the same girl, shouldn't be emotionally draining. Any woman worth committing to should add not take away from your life.
Had I adopted this line of thinking in my 20s, it'd have saved me a decade of headaches and heart breaks.
MentORPHEUS Senior Endorsed 1d ago
Mattyanon gave a great response for the case of a genuine boundary push.
I'm going to consider the honest ethical case of normal socializing with old acquaintances in her home city which can be perfectly legitimate by a non single woman.
In the big picture, you have to let go of anxiety and control and give people the opportunity to demonstrate trust and commitment worthiness. Too trusting can be a mistake, but the other extreme, too controlling or concerned, doesn't make you a great value proposition from a woman's perspective either.
To help calibrate this internally, imagine your sister was dating a guy and this scenario came up. How would you want the guy to behave towards her?
taya2002 1d ago
I'd expect the guy not to compromise on his stance.
In our case it was clearly communicated that it's a no-go. It's highly influenced by my upbringing. Although I consider myself as more westernized now, the idea of my woman hanging out with a guy alone just simply doesn't pass.
JPCantell 22h ago
You break up with her.
Trying to control what women do doesn’t work.
You’re trying to bargain with chips you don’t have because you’re trying to keep a relationship. This is leverage for the female.
She will get away with what she thinks she can get away with, because she knows you won’t leave, or doesn’t care about losing your approval.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
Did she ask both the guy and girl to meet up at the same time at the same place?
It is really unclear from your post if she was trying to meet with both
Hard to give you an answer but if the girl can't make it and the guy can, and she follows through, then it would sound like a breach of boundaries
taya2002 2d ago
She texted them separately, as in to see who is available to meet. So, it was a one on one from the beginning
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
Sounds like a breach of your relationship rules
I wouldn't let it slide
Ask her why she isn't following them, if the answer is not satisfactory consider your options
taya2002 2d ago
The reasoning was something along the lines of wanting to meet an old classmate from her city, and that it has been so long.
I actually think it's reasonable, but at the same time it was a clear boundary breach.
AbusiveFather1 1d ago
what does your gut tell you? listen to your gut, not your brain trying to rationalize