Here is a chat I had with a girl. Is she just after free attention and if so should I just ignore her? (it's quite long so feel free to just skim through it quickly it or ignore it completely if you so desire).
tl:dr When I suggested to meet she said she was busy but didn't come up with an alternative date she has now started messaging me so maybe she just wants free attention?
[02/05, 16:59] .: ME - Hi how are you?
[02/05, 17:01] Her - : Hi
[02/05, 17:01] Her - : I'm good thanks xx
[02/05, 17:09] Me - Cool what you up to?
[02/05, 17:16] Her - : Dinner time here at the moment What about you
[02/05, 17:19] .: ME - Doing a bit of work and waiting for an ice cream to reach the perfect amount of Melted
[02/05, 17:20] Her - : Sounds productive lol
[02/05, 17:20] Her - : Did you enjoy yourself at the party on Wednesday? There was a lot of people that turned up!
[02/05, 17:20] ME - Who says men can't multi talk I got this like a boss
[02/05, 17:20] HER - Super skills
[02/05, 17:21] ME - Yeah it was a blast I met some really cool people and I learned about a profession I didn't know existed
[02/05, 17:31] HER - Yes it was very interesting
[02/05, 17:31] HER - : Do you think you would be keen to book with someone to experience
[02/05, 17:32] ME - You mean book with someone for a message?
[02/05, 17:32] Her-: Yea
[02/05, 17:32] HER - Especially a more sensual one
[02/05, 17:33] ME - Yeah I'm open to that
[02/05, 17:34] HER - It's amazing how many are out there offering similar services Still seems like a bit of a secret society lol
[02/05, 17:38] ME - Yeah I suppose it is. Next time swap your heart shaped glasses for dark shades to keep things secret
[02/05, 17:39] ME - You are now a secret agent
[02/05, 17:45] HER - Just call me croft haha
[02/05, 17:45] HER - : Have you got any weekend plans
[02/05, 17:45] HER - : What do you normally do in your spare time
[02/05, 17:48] ME - You're showing your age there Mrs Croft. Possibly working this weekend how about you? I guess you don't get much free time either?
I've been spending a lot of my spare time working need to make more time for fun events.
[02/05, 17:52] HER - Ah ok. Lots of work on your plate by the sounds of it
[02/05, 17:53] HER - Spare time I read a bit, sometimes writing, adult colouring, yoga most Mondays, walking, choir and massage with naughty friends
[02/05, 17:59] ME - Nice are you free next weekend?
[02/05, 18:18] HER - Weekend is usually family time I'm quite busy
[02/05, 18:39] ME - what day works best for you?
[03/05, 20:47] HER - Will figure out something x
[03/05, 20:47] HER - How was your day hopefully you got a little break from work
[03/05, 22:09] ME - It was good had a bit of a break how about you?
[03/05, 22:13] HER - Aww glad to hear it
[03/05, 22:13] HER - : Well I was busy went to a kids bday party for the afternoon
[03/05, 22:15] ME - Wow you know how to live life on the wild side.
[03/05, 22:31]HER - : Something like that haha
[03/05, 23:21] ME - My mum always warned me about wild party girls like you
[04/05, 07:21] HER - Did she?! Mum may be right there Continue at your own risk
[08/05, 10:45] HER - How are you?
Up to much today? Xx
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Attempt to answer - I think she may be after free attention based on her interest to chat but not a strong interest to arrange to meet.
AbusiveFather1 21h ago
Always trust your gut. If it tells you she’s playing with you - she is.
Also, please stop with the online dating.
Noonenoname 19h ago
Thanks for your reply this was not an online dating situation I met her in person no apps involved.
As for trusting my gut that has often led me astray.
Overkill_Engine 3 20h ago
Protip: Every woman should be assumed by default to be looking for free attention, and it is her job to prove otherwise via her actions.
If she is clearly not working towards/receptive to invites to being in a position/situation where she could physically hop on your dick...you have your answer.
This is why overinvesting in "text game" is a retarded strategy for men. You can't fuck her thru the phone and she god damn well knows that, which is why women that are just looking for attention looooooooooove texting.
Noonenoname 19h ago
Thanks for your reply I agree spending too much time on text game is a waste of time. Years ago I almost got banned from a dating app for getting too many numbers too quickly I was penalised for refusing to waste time! (i know dating apps are a waste of time nowadays so no worries there)
Her actions don't seem that great as she is willing to "chit chat" but no focus on meeting and I'm not interested in giving her free attention with the hope that it progresses.
No-Stress-Cat 15h ago
Back in the day we called it...phone sex...
MrSupreme 18h ago
You're playing the attention game,some push-pull, friendly and joyful banter. it just reads like a cyber friend so far, you lose nothing just waiting for next weekend. Try and sexualize the convo a bit, and be spontaneous, tell her to ditch whatever plans she may have to go out for a fun date with you. You do lose a chance by not being a bit risky here, and that is the worst. Try not too care too much about the result and actually have other plans.
Noonenoname 18h ago
Fair enough or just ignore her and if she is interested she can persue me?
MrSupreme 18h ago
Nah that would be sperging out of it. As I said, she may be expecting you to be more aggresive instead of waiting for her to show some overt interest. Assume the sale.
ObliviousDuck 18h ago
First, you gave no context on how you know that girl. Did you meet IRL? DM slide? OLD? I assume IRL since she's talking about a party.
Second, stop beating around the bush and give her a clear invitation, especially since it seems like she's fishing for one.
She practically begged for a date at least 3 or 4 times, strike 1. Then you finally wake up and ask "Nice are you free next weekend?" strike 2
Dude, come on, just say it: "I'd love a massage, I'm available Saturday evening I'll give you one in return, but first I need a drink at that place" or whatever. It doesn't matter if the day is bad for her, you will figure it out, but offer her something concrete to start with or reject you on.
How can she offer an alternative to "what are you doing this weekend?" if she doesn't even know when and what you want to do.
Her answer will have the same impact as your question. Make a wishiewashie invite, you'll get a wishiewashie answer.
"what day works best for you?" strike 3. Unless you know her IRL and are very attractive, you are now out.
By being direct you don't give her the opportunity to weight her options and give you vague excuses such as "I might see my family" or some bullshit escape plan like this, she either accepts or refuse. If you want a clear answer you have to offer a clear invite.
You need to think like a scammer or a telemarketer. Your goal is to get rejected as fast as possible so you don't waste your time on non-prospects. Embrace polarization.
Third, every single line of text you send should be an escalation toward 1) reminding her that you have a dick 2) trying to see her again. Leave the discussion about what you ate yesterday and what kind of day she had to when you actually see her. Don't let her suck you into those, it's a trap. She wants the dopamine hit of her phone constantly buzzing from guys trying to get in her pants. Don't play her game: get in, propose, get out.
Remove that sentence from your repertoire. Don't try to look busy using work. It's the worst kind of busy. If work is all that's exciting about you, work on changing that. In the mean time, stay vague about how you spend your time.
Honnestly, all I see in that exchange is a girl serving you a date on a silver plater and you fumbling. Was she fishing for attention? Maybe. She did fade out but not before having to put the IRL meet planning back on track at least twice. We can't really know because you were not polarizing enough.
Now, try again with a direct and clear invitation, with a proposed place, day and time and tell her you are a bit flexible. If she rejects or fade again you'll have your answer.
Noonenoname 18h ago
Hi I met her IRL
I thought I gave a pretty clear invitation when I said "next weekend" and she declined. I suppose I could have picked an exact day and made it a statement rather than a question.
I don't see how she begged for a date 4 times you lost me there.
I take your point I will say "Hi I'm great thanks I'd love a massage I'm available this upcoming Friday evening I'll give you a great one in return"
mattyanon Admin 18h ago
blah blah blah......... why are you handing out all this free attention and time?
you suggested a meetup, she didn't go for it, therefore NEXT
Noonenoname 17h ago
Yeah fair point mate. Actually though I'm trying to examine my tactics and improve on the next one rather than salvage this one.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 17h ago
Ugh, I barely want to read what women I actually know text. I'm not reading all that.
I will say that you need to combine what @Overkill_Engine, @ObliviousDuck, and @mattyanon said.
Always escalate. If she wants you, she'll work with you to make it happen. If she doesn't want you, then either the inevitable rejection is over sooner and you waste less time or she keeps trying to string you along, and you recognize the lack of interest for what it is and just drop her and move on to other options.
First-light 5h ago
She is not sounding super interested but you really can't tell yet. Women who have been burned a lot before by their own haste can want to slow burn it a bit before they take a risk and do the same again as usual.
She is talking to you. You are not a "creep" you are in the possibles box. How much effort does it take to keep replying and making a good conversation? Probably not as much effort as finding another girl. Do that anyway to have options and a surplus mind but this might yet work out if the conversation heats her up. She wants your attention. Just work on being an interesting guy, no need to be constantly perma flirty and she may suddenly start to crave attention in person when the hormones drive her to. Women like attention but if they consistently like attention from a guy, it usually means something. Women are too lazy because the world is too surplus for them to invest in a long conversation without actually liking a guy. If a simpy guy is driving the conversation keen and thirsty it means nothing but if she drives it for days and weeks, it can mean something.
75% it comes to nothing but talk is cheap, so may be worth the bother, provided you can do it investing nothing emotionally.
SeasonedRP 1 2h ago
She's not interested. I wouldn't text her any more.