Title is autistic but not misleading.
Background: Me: 25 yo. good job, 180cm, kinda slim with a bit of fat (previously was skinny fat and working on it) so not too intimidating, handsome but with baby face. Her: 24 yo. very good looking girl, has tattoos (because she is an tattoo artist as a hobby, she doesn't do it full time but her paintings are really professional so its not some trashy shit), green flags: very goal oriented, focused on work, doesn't seem to fuck around (but in her past who knows and I don't like to dwell on it), possibly Alpha Widow, her ex which she broke up with 6 months ago: 30 yo. guy with a kid, military, huge, propably would mog the shit out of me, they broke up because he was an alcoholic, wasn't responsible, was mistreating her (cursing her, saying she is shit etc.) and she told me he sat in front of tv, put some sad music and cried that his life is a mess and he is a fucking loser so I don't know what to think of it.
First meeting: We matched on Tinder, she actually is from a city 2h away but it's the city I grew up in so I said fuck it, first I was about to meet at her place, then she at mine but she got sick and she rescheduled, when we met she came to my town and we were talking for 7 hours but I didn't even k-close, her shit tests was so immense that I wonder how the fuck I managed to pass them. She said that I look very young, max 20 yo. and that I'm not that tall (she is 161cm but likes to walk in platform boots). After the meeting she texted that she liked our talk and she feels very safe around me which is rare for her.
Second meeting: Yesterday we meet at her city, she cooked dinner for us, and we talked, listened to music, we were talking about some childhood memories but as you can already see there was no sexual tension in the air. After some time I managed to get her to lie on my chest and she held me tightly, this was my window but at this point I wanted to shit so bad that all I could focus on was not to. So we were hugging each other and then we went to her sleeping room to lie there, it was very late and I guess the constant thinking about shit and her constant shit tests awoken some autism in me and I didn't k-close for solid 5 hours after first hugging session. She was visibly confused and upset (I don't really know what impression that made, because the entire time I was holding frame or atleast tried to, she knows I fuck bitches so it wasn't like she thought I was shy, at least I hope so). She put some eskimos kiss type shit and I still didn't kissed her because I wanted her to make the first move beacuse I was on ego trip or whatever idk. Then I kissed her, we kissed for a couple of minutes, I then went to grab a water, went back to bed and we started kissing again, at this point I tried to escalate but somehow I fucked up escalation ladder and while kissing I went from kissing her lips to kissing her neck to kissing her lips and when I put my hand between her legs she got ASD saying "no, we only met two times". I recently read "Fuck yes or no" so I thought I don't really have stamina for this right now and maybe it's actually good because I wanted to poop so hard but the logistics of it was not in my favour. I just looked at her, smiled, went back to hugging her and some time later when we were hugging she started licking my neck like it was made of sugar, she made one continous move from the collarbone to the base of my jaw with her tongue like it was some lolipop, but I didn't try again to escalate because of my very need to make a poop. At the morning she made us breakfast and I went back to my town.
Some questions:
- How do you manage situations where you want to poop before f-close and you don't want to ruin the magic.
- I don't really felt like alpha around her, I mean I was passing her shit tests etc. but the thought of her ex and how alpha he must be to her was really concerning, am I tripping or is she AW?
- So she propably fucked this ex on first time they met, or at least had some ons but when it comes to me she ASD because sex is special or whatever, but the tongue thing she did was telling me she is freaky af and propably experienced, her denying me of sex was a shit test that I had to push through? Maybe she wanted to poop aswell and it was just unfortunate?
Sorry for retarded FR but if it was normal and succesful I wouldn't write about it here.
Musicgoon78 2 1w ago
LMAO!
Little boys and Pussies go poop. You need to shit like a real man! A true alpha would go and just fucking nuke her bathroom, clean up and continue on without apology.
In all seriousness, who gives a fuck about this other guy? You're trying to compete with imaginary metrics and standards about someone you don't know that isn't in the picture. In other words, you fucked yourself over.
You're escalation is way too slow! 7 hours without a kiss? C'mon bro... You wonder why she had ASD? You look super insecure.
Now here's my tough love: you sir, are an asshole. What a selfish dick move to not escalate and go after what you want. Women are insecure. By you not making a move, you're are being shitty to this cute woman. You are rejecting her. She stuck around for hours waiting for you to grow a pair. It didn't happen. You are being an asshole to her and to your own dick, that probably needed to pipe something.
Let this be a lesson to you. Escalate early. Don't be a fucking douchebag and deny a girl dick. That's a shitty thing to do to her and yourself. You put your own comfort above everyone's wants.
You blew this and probably felt awful with all that fecal waste overflowing in your intestines.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1w ago
I'm starting to question your flair points with your alpha "advice"
A real oak frame alpha sigmafux would shit on her bed and fuck her next to it and make her apologize for it
Musicgoon78 2 1w ago
Oh man... You're right! My alpha cred is slipping! She needs to drink in your rectal scent and tell you it's amazing. That's how you truly dominate in a RP fashion.
My old BP conditioning must have reared its ugly head.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1w ago
clean up your act and read the 7th sidebar sequel again you noob. Also don't compare yourself to a beta that's offensive to betas you theta male
redhawkes 2 1w ago
Ahh the oldskool asktrp vibes.. the reverse shit test. Real alphas drink toilet water.
Read the "freeze out" technique. Mods can pin it cause its a 101 essential shit.
Lone_Ranger 2 1w ago
sweet jesus. what a post!
Dude - she thinks you're gay. She is used to fucking guys on the first date - you fucked up real big here. She was down for it, and you just started obsessing over pooping etc.
she wanted to go on an adventure, get railed, and you sat there hugging her for hours? are you actually gay?
btw - ditch this one and start over with someone else.
her first inkling that you were beta was when she start yapping on about details about her ex. you're not even in a relationship, not even fucked her...and she is telling you details about an ex??? wtf. you failed your first shit test hard - the second a woman starts yapping on about an ex, you slap that shit down instantly. You just interrupt and say something like - 'why are we talking about other people babes? It's just you and me here ...'
ngl - you acted pretty beta on this 'date' and i bet you 10 to 1 this woman is used to getting railed by alphas. i would guess she has already lost interest.
Typo-MAGAshiv 2 6d ago
But why is he gay?!
Lone_Ranger 2 3d ago
who says he's gay?
MrSupreme 1w ago
Doesn't sound like she is an alpha widow if the guy was an emotional mess and abused her. She was verbally and emotionally abused and she is probably damaged because of it,dont try to heal her,if possible take advantage of her vulnerability cause she would 100% do that to you.
2.Again, maybe not AW but just a damaged chick (nuts) which by itself is a red flag.The tattoos are probably giving it away,youre just not using it to pass judgement because you dont mind tattoos.
3.You probably needed more foreplay than just a few kisses, a 5 hour cuddly hug doesnt count.And if she pulled back cause of ASD and then she reinitiated with the tongue thing you should have started leading the horny stuff again.
Typo-MAGAshiv 2 1w ago
Is this a joke?
1) If you have to shit so badly that you're driven to distraction, then go take a shit. You don't have to tell her what you're doing; just say "I'll be back" and go shit.
2) if you went this long without escalating, she likely has you pegged as an inexperienced provider type or worse, gay.
3)
A) you went from 0 to 60 too fast. Do more foreplay (and various foreplay) before you go stampeding towards the clitoris.
B) that kind of "no" usually actually means "you need to warm me up more first" rather than meaning a hard no. Her licking of your neck a few minutes later should have made this clear to you.
AbusiveFather1 1w ago
Tattoos are a red flag whether they’re professional or trashy.
Don’t dwell on this hoe, move on, better yourself and get younger girls too, from 18 to 23. 23 is peak and it goes downhill from there until the wall at 30.
Musicgoon78 2 1w ago
You give great advice lately, then sperg out over tattoos. C'mon bro this is a trope.
This is personal preference not a red flag.
First-light 1w ago
It doesn't always flow smoothly but if you are going to shoot your load up her, taking a dump in her toilet shouldn't phase her. Just say "Excuse me a second" at a suitable point. Then dive right back in when you come back. If she changes her mind while you are in the bathroom, then really she wasn't into you that much so no big loss.
There are so many maybes in these things but if she wants you enough, it will all clear up in a few meetings time, maybe next time. If I had to point to one thing, you played with er then accelerated very quickly. It wasn't fun for her like that. You didn't heat her up, you frustrated her.