From my experience jealousy is pretty much at the top of the list for drying pussies. But ive always met some exceptions.. I had a friend who dated a girl, it was a toxic relationship. He showed jealousy often and they were on-and-off and they kept getting back together, many times she didnt wanna leave him.
I figured they had some sort of toxic bond together, and she was broken and low value. (He wasnt high value either). But despite his jealousy she went back to him often. Why was this? Is there any way jealousy can actually trigger attraction in some broken women? Or is it universally panty-drying... ive seen this to be the case but some rare cases blow my mind..
I always thought if youre jealous and shes still with you its because shes actively "using" your relationship to buy time in the short term while shes shopping around behind the mans back, but doesnt wanna be single. Meanwhile she will disrespect and shit test the fuck out of the man until that happens.
Lone_Ranger 3 1y ago
'she was broken and low value'
you answered your own question. She kept getting back with him because he was easy to control . He handed her the controller, showed her which buttons to press and she liked having a guy that she could manipulate.
Not to fuck of course - just to manipulate.
You see how this works?
EurasianChad 1 1y ago
I believe all women will try to control a man. It's in their nature to try and get you to bend, compromise, and move you off your emotional center even just for their own amusement.
It's all a test. The concept of being pre selected and having multiple plates allows you to be non reactive to BS from womens manipulation games, basically protecting your emotional core from being rocked and taken off your core mission in life.
Lone_Ranger 3 1y ago
this is 100% correct.
All women will try to control a man, and what they are looking for is failure
They wan to try to control you, and fail. Then they will know that you are worthy. If they succeed and are able to control you, then they know that you are worthless.
This is the boss level of TRP. Most guys never get this. They are stuck at the logic level - they think...why on earth would a woman try and do something that will ruin their relationship? that makes no sense, therefore it cannot be true.
Hondurak 1y ago
I do, but the thing is that they still fucked and had a sex life, it wasnt a dead bedroom. Why would women sacrifice control over a man they desire? Wouldnt they PREFER to be in a relationship with a man who is getting them wet and fucking them well?
Women reject betas all the time, and they are easy to control and manipulate. Theyre holding out for guys who actually get their pussies wet, and they find them occasionally.
Lone_Ranger 3 1y ago
much to learn you have.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
I'm not sure why you are asking rabbit hole questions, why not stick to regular TRP orthodoxy instead of fishing for exceptions
Lone_Ranger 3 1y ago
I know exactly why - he is 'asking for a friend'
he is jealous guy, has oneities and a scarcity mindset, and wants our validation to give him the green light to be really jealous within an LTR
that's why
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
That was my first guess when I saw this post but didn't feel like typing it
ObliviousDuck 1y ago
An otherwise well adjusted woman who tells you to be more jealous is shifting the blame for cheating on you.
Women who actually seek jealous guys are very low self esteem and are looking for someone they can manipulate into abusing them so they can be a victim, confirming to themselves what a piece of trash they are.
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 1y ago
There is a difference between being attracted to someone and liking that you can manipulate someone to feed a drama addiction.
And never forget sociopath leaning women will use sex as a weapon and transactional tool even more frequently than a "normal" woman.
You can either ignore the massive warning sirens that should be going off in your head to optimize dick wetting at all costs, even to yourself, or you can figure out that discretion is the better part of valor.
First-light 1 1y ago
One answer to this is -it depends on how the man's jealousy manifests itself.
If he becomes neurotic, checks up, tells her she shouldn't or can't do stuff and withdraws his affection princess loses. She is now being asked to voluntarily forego what her hotness has won -male attention. Why should she? she has done nothing wrong, just been hot. If Beta isn't enough for her, well then why on earth should she deprive herself for him. Its like being given a half sized portion of food and then being told you can't accept another portion of food you are offered because you have the unsatisfactory portion in front of you. Loser, controlling narcissist... The sands start piling up in her underwear.
On the other hand if the guy gets competitive from jealousy -that will have the opposite effect often. If the simp decides to out alpha his rival not to expect good behaviour from his woman in return for his input into the relationship (control her in femtard lingo) she may find it very exciting. Two stags are rutting for her, the monsoons start to build in her knickers. If the simps fight that will be the best. But even if they vie to outpromise and oout treat each other, it will still have a good effect.
A girl I used to bang on the side once told me with huge jealousy how her friend's aging beta cuck had attacked a street busker Chad who had banged her. There was a proper street fight. This apparently fixed everything between the friend and beta and the friend passed then abandoned the busker and passed him to the girl I was seeing. She was really validated to be fought over. Apparently the girl I was involved with was done with the busker when she started with me and she just went to see him to "heal her dog with shamanism" but he used to wave at me when I drove down the road, so I have my doubts. I however am not remotely interested in fighting over trash and used to just smile back at him and wave.
In general either form of jealous behaviour is a losing behaviour for a man. Both can get you close to the of the edge of the law if they misfire. In the end its better to dump trash and carry on.
Hondurak 1y ago
Isnt fighting considered mateguarding though?
First-light 1 1y ago
Fighting is mate guarding but a lot of women actually like much of mate guarding. I think its a bit like the jealousy thing it all depends how the mate guarding manifests itself -does she gain or lose from it? I gather scientists say that holding a door open for a woman is mate guarding behaviour. A lot of women like that, I have even had women who complained that I don't hold the car door open for them. They like the feeling of being special and valued.
This is where a lot of red pill thinkers make an error. Women value being valued, they are not attracted to needy behaviour in men -to whom they are attracted to for strength. I think it depends if the behaviour gets her something or costs her something. Needy behaviour is an opportunity cost for women. They feel their own weakness, they fear being held by the weakness of someone stronger. However being valued and treated is something they love. A lot of red pill thinkers focus on the male side of the neediness and say eliminate all needy behaviours like mate guarding, when actually its more of a case of eliminate the needy behaviours where females lose. If you are going along with a surplus mentality and treating women like they are special, they will like it better and value you more than if you are going along with a surplus mentality and treating women like trash.
Short term dread makes women keen, dread is something they are ruled by but holding women in long term dread makes them eventually recoil. Long term they like benefit to flow to them. So i think when men fight over women, women feel their value affirmed? They feel assured the man is strong and values them. Still its a mistake in this age because the law is stronger than men and women are free to treat men as badly as they like.
Whatsnext 1y ago
Its like saying two homeless people that can't do any better than each other have jealousy in the relationship and its working! I'm very jealous naturally and its something I work on. I always say if I was a caveman and my women talked to other men outside my cave i'd smash both of them over the head lmao but thats not how our society works. I think its better to have boundaries and withdraw attention and time when she crosses them. Also I think being a jealous man (without being a bitch or showing it to anyone) is better than being the guy who is like "its cool if my wife sleeps around im not insecure!!!!" fuck that
Whatsnext 1y ago
Also: My last LTR I was blue pill and told her about my jealousy and she used it for manipulation so I wouldn't ever tell a girl about how you feel. You tell her your dad died and your insecure about it and she'll bring it up in a fight and call you a pussy lmfao
financehardo420 Should i (x1) 1y ago
How many other dicks do you think she sucked and fucked in the off periods? She would keep coming back bc the higher value men didn’t want commit to her lol
Hondurak 1y ago
Facts, i had this happen to me. Old fwbs would hit me up asap after a break or breaking up. I didnt want them back, two weeks later theyre back with the beta and posting love quotes.
redhawkes 2 1y ago
That's called codependency.
Jealousy is fear of losing what you have to someone else. In other words, scarcity.
oowiw 1y ago
Jealousy can have different definitions and manifestations.
To the extent that jealousy might manifest as setting firm boundaries, it can look attractive - especially to women with daddy issues who crave a little discipline.
In this case it's not the jealousy that's attracting her, it's that someone is taking control - and it doesn't require actual jealousy to do this so it's kind of a red herring.
Jealousy (as in the man's emotional state) is never attractive IMO, it's just sometimes misunderstood to be something actually attractive.