I keep hearing that many men have trouble making women submit, and some women would never submit to a guy worthy of it.
i also know submission comes in many different flavors: out of bedroom behavior, submitting to decisions, no attitude, cooking cleaning etc
My question is this: if for example you have a Fwb and you put handcuffs on her and a collar and make her a full blown sub-
Is she completely submitted? Does this means she’s 100% submitted or is the bedroom only part of it, or is the bedroom the reflection of the entire relationship as a whole?
oowiw 2y ago
The women I've known who were the most naturally submissive in the bedroom have also been the most conscientious and agreeable in general.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 2y ago
True in my experience also
Lone_Ranger 3 2y ago
It is nearly always symbiotic - what happens in the bedroom reflects what happens in the wider relationship and vice versa.
I had a girlfriend once who didn't want to do it doggy style, 'because it was too submissive'. That didn't last long. But submission in the bedroom doesn't have to be BDSM stuff, it doesn't have to have handcuffs. There are lots of things which are symbolic. For example, if a woman wants to kneel down and suck you off, that is a good sign.
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 2y ago
Don't blindly expect/rely on 100% correlation between the two. Plenty of absolute histrionic turbo cunts enjoy all sorts of sub BDSM action but are still fucking pains in the ass outside of the bedroom.
You're still going to have to vet intensely every day. No shortcuts.
Hugo_The_Great 2y ago
This.
Women (and people in general) can wear different masks in different environments.
How submissive a girl is can differ from the bedroom/the 2 of you alone/at work/with friends/with family or other occasions.
Although I do agree there is usually high correlation. If there is an outlier somewhere, that can be a red flag...
Skev77 2y ago
Completely agree! ive noticed that some women can just be kinky and submissive in the bedroom but still be a little head strong in the relationship. i've come to terms that those women are the ones that are broken. she will never submit because she always wants some level of control. maybe due to pass sexual trauma who knows. but shes just for a good time not long time IMO!
Hugo_The_Great 2y ago
I get your logic, but I don't think that necessarily means they're broken. The bedroom is kinda of a safe space where they can be what they want without harsh consequences.
Especially if the relationship is (still) casual, for a girl to become very submissive is a big risk and borderline stupid, as quite a few men will exploit that. I would even argue the contrary that a girl is broken if she becomes too submissive too fast (no commitment), which means she is naive (unintelligent).
Grunk 2y ago
My ex was into BDSM and even though at first meeting she acted submissive her true personality wasn't. She was very masculine, nit picky and wanted to control trivial things I did. She was also obsessed with her career. I should say she was sexually assaulted.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 2y ago
Get one to do the bedroom thing and find out.