My SMV is in the shitter right now, and I'm spending the next 6-12 months in a non-optimal living situation in a smaller city while I sort that out.
I changed my Tinder bio to say I'm looking for a weekly standing date with a FWB for 6-12 months, and I'm starting to get likes from single moms. Never dated single mom's before, and wouldn't worry about it that much except I need to go to their place to do the deed every time, my living situ right now won't make sense to have someone over.
I'm looking at them thinking about matching and talking, but the image of their toddler in the house is throwing me a bit. I like selfish, disrespectful sex and when I picture going to smash, I'm picturing a 3 year old boy looking up at me in a hallway and losing my mojo - the whole thing just feels like a sad scene.
Anyone dealt with this? Anyone been in the situation of breaking in a FWB in the house with their kids?
I guess some of these women might not live with their kids, or their kids might be away on the night I go over, which would make it a lot easier.
Thoughts? To make the tradeoff specific, all my matches are overweight, I have likes from mid-20s single moms or mid-30s+ women who aren't listing any kids... Obv no actual cuties (but this is literally me: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/10/this-is-the-average-mans-body/280194/ )
And, just as a datapoint, my profile is absolutely clear about only looking for FWB, yet the people who've swiped on me all have "Long Term Relationship" set as their "looking for" on their bios....
AbusiveFather1 3mo ago
It doesn’t just feel like a sad scene - it is a sad scene. Either decide that you’re okay with being a bad person, or don’t plate single mothers.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3mo ago
Disagree. Women without kids like sex as much as women with kids. Every woman with kids was once a woman without kids
I felt kind of gross about cumming inside some kids moms though an hour before they went to pick up their kids. But that feeling only lasted about 5 minutes or less each time. Kid at home, no, that's just plain awkward, but fucking them when their kid is not home isn't much different at all
I always felt kinda wrong though when single moms would shower together with me after doing the deed and let me use their son(s) axe bodywash and shit (cause I'm not user her bodywash and smelling like a Twink ffs)
Always felt wrong pumping their sons teenage soap into my hands that i didn't even wash first (i always used my forearms to pump the soap so i wouldn't feel so sick about it)
But i would just think like imagine being a 13 yo boy and knowing your mom just got defiled and that man you don't even know is fucking using your soap to clean his mom's juices and sweat off his body. That kinda did get to me
On second thought, there really isn't anyway to make it not sad unless you find ways to make it less sad like bringing your own travel wash or whatever
oowiw 3mo ago
“Bring own toiletries” note writing intensifies
ObliviousDuck 3mo ago
The French call it a "baise-en-ville."
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 3mo ago
Having sex with a woman who wants to have sex makes you a bad person?
oowiw 3mo ago
Thanks - that’s succinct and challenged me to dig into where the sad feeling comes from. I suppose my hesitation is from my knowledge that I’m never going to be anything more than a fun pastime for her at a time in her life when, perhaps, she ought to be looking for a more nutritious relationship. So, as long as I’m fully transparent about that and bounce if it becomes obvious she’s hoping for more, that should cover me ethically.
Lone_Ranger 1 3mo ago
Cover you ethically??? wtf dude.
She wants dick, you want pussy, you can do some business. There isn't anything more to it than that.
You don't need to be fully transparent. She wants to pretend, she wants that make believe feeling that some day, some dude might 'fall in love with her' and wife her up.
Don't shatter her dreams. Just give her the dick she wants. Just realise that its only for a while. All plates break in the end.
Problematic_Browser 1 3mo ago
Single moms are really only good for fucking, and that's only until they try to get you to commit
Overkill_Engine 2 3mo ago
Can concur, from obnoxious experience. There's always a reason they ended up a single mom, and it inherently makes them a shitshow to get entangled with past an extremely casual level.
Best to treat them like the sexual equivalent of bums. You can throw them some charity dick every once in a while but you never invite them home. And you sure as hell don't let them near your bank account or even wallet.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3mo ago
I stopped reading after the overthinking
I got involved with 3 single mothers, which was definitely the lesser portion of my lays
Girls listed out of order for when I met them because of how i wanted to list them
Girl 2: had full custody of her son. Didn't disclose it at all on Hinge, didn't list it. Didn't mention it until we had a time and place already set up and definitely didn't disclose the full custody till after I kissed her. She invited me over for date 2 to "make her sore". Her kid gets in trouble at after school and has to come home hours early. Her male roommate that normally would be willing to watch him was being a bitch and wouldn't while I was over so i escalated in her room while he was asleep down the hall. She wouldn't lock the door so that was awkward. Then she tried to commitment trap me while she was about to cum from my fingers and then said we should stop. She wanted to fuck so bad but her desire to trap me was too powerful. Directly asked me to commit days later, I said no, and she invited me over one more time when he wasn't home and it didn't go anywhere
Full custody verdict: FUCK no
Girl 1: had 50/50 custody Monday-Wednesday and every other Sunday/holiday
Reliably fucked her once a week and spent some time with her at the venue i met her at on the other two nights she was out. Good lay, mostly treated me right until she lied about other dick. Hard nexted her.
As for logistics 50/50 custody was just fine, she was just too much of a club slut in my face and i didn't appreciate the lying even though I gave her a free pass to be a traditional plate so long as she was honest about it. Point is, 50/50 custody is completey reasonable for FWB/plate
Verdict 50/50: Just fine, but vet out trash women
Girl 3: met at venue. Had 80/20 custody. Gave son back to her deadbeat high school sweetheart every other weekend and had 50/50 custody over the summer.
She probably treated me better, no, she DID treat me better than any other woman I've ever had any form of a relationship with. We were FWB. She actually gave me some hope that good women are out there. She got knocked up because she had low self esteem and strict af parents and was never liked in high school so she let a fuckboi hit it after getting him to commit.
Other than THAT fuck up she was an incredibly hard working woman, submissive and feminine. Told her I didn't want a family and we still saw each other for 4 months, even when she was initially only seeing me every other week. She also lived in a other city. We probably saw eachother something like 20 times in four months. Fucked a ton and she treated me like a king, never asked me to support her or anything
She finally broke it off with me when her son was starting school on the fall again and she couldn't stomach doing a casual relationship anymore. She just didn't want to feel like someone's hoe. It was the most drama-free and cordial breaking off of something I've ever had. Zero resentment or negative feelings, granted i actually was kind of sad to lose the best treatment id ever had ever
Verdict on 80/20 custody: was still doable with genuine desire for me
50/50 custody, same verdict as before
I never met girl 1 or 3's kids ever. They didn't want me to meet them and that was perfect. They never asked me to support them or commit. They liked sex too.
I don't think it was all that worth plating the hoe to be honest because she was a hoe. The 3rd girl I actually feel genuinely lucky to have gotten involved with because it gave me optimism as a Red Pilled man that decent woman actually fucking exist. She actually wasn't a whore and if not for the kid she'd be an extremely good wife to someone some day.
Stop overthinking it. Not every woman has their kid 24/7. Find that shit out. Most don't ask you for resources at all. None did for me. None really wanted me to meet their kid, even the one who did have me meet him. Only 1 wanted commitment, the others were fine just having me drill them till their pussies wore out from getting fucked on repeat.
Stop overthinking this shit. Enjoy what you want to enjoy and wear a condom because they already have proven they have a bad track record with not getting pregnant
oowiw 3mo ago
This is really helpful - I’m going to explore the moms enough to find out the custody situs and go for it if there’s regular opportunity to be alone. Thanks for bringing the goods!
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3mo ago
No problem!
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 3mo ago
Doesn't look like much of a commitment there lol
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3mo ago
She got an 8 year marriage out of him before ending it
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 3mo ago
Wait, she ended it?
Not to get into her entire life story, this shit is par for the course with all the reasons single moms aren't worthy of commitment.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3mo ago
Yeah he beat her in front of her kid for the nth time and she said 'thats it I've had enough" and started divorce proceedings after 8 years of "not wanting a broken home"
She had low af self esteem. She really didn't like herself enough to have a ton of self-respect
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 3mo ago
Single moms are great for sex. I lost my virginity to a single mom at a party. I had casual flings with other single moms.
They are not commitment-worthy.
But they like sex, just like any other woman.
As long as you guard your feelings, wallet, and commitment, there's no reason not to scratch each other's itch. Just be careful, and watch out for when they start trying to get you to commit (if they try).
Chantfire 3mo ago
Unless the kid is actively attached to his father, it shouldn't be much of a big deal. This is weird but little boys don't mind pimping their mothers out, as long they benefit in some way, and/or they like you. The only thing that may hinder your acts of passion is having to wait for the kid to go to bed, especially if he/she is has no siblings that can keep him busy. You will also have to monitor her moaning (I suggest that you play some music to filter the moans) if the lady only has one child. Please note that you will have to Play daddy and/or may end up as a god father if you aren't careful how you play it, so improve any characteristics that will make you a stronger leader, then lead by example.
oowiw 3mo ago
That IS weird, and my friends with kids are always trying to get me to interact with their toddlers, read them stories at bedtime and such - not my thing - I’m gonna try to avoid meeting anyone’s kids as policy I think. Might be different if I had my own - I almost did (and almost got stealth cucked) so I have some learned negativity around playing daddy to someone else’s.
I was a weird kid, I’d be a weird parent too, prob not a good fit for any kid but my own.
Testme 3mo ago
It is better to look through a store window at young, unmarried woman than to be fucking a single mom.
There are higher purposes than getting yourself off.
oowiw 3mo ago
“There are higher purposes than getting yourself off.”
Yep, like having someone else get you off. Jk, but having regular sex really improves my overall mood and motivation. A regular FWB is like natural anti depressants for me.
MrSupreme 3mo ago
Well you gotta make up your mind while finding out what itll be like going out with a single mom.
If she doesn't want you to meet her kids then it is kind of a green flag, she won't let her kids meet just any random guy and she'll set up the logistics for fucking at her place easier for you. If on the other hand she doesn't mind letting the kid play around the house while shes getting railed in the bedroom then that is kinda cringey and not what you're looking for.
Vet her and ask her questions based on that one criteria of never meeting the kid
oowiw 3mo ago
"If she doesn't want you to meet her kids then it is kind of a green flag," Extremely actionable, thanks - I was definitely overthinking
MrSupreme 3mo ago
No problem
Lone_Ranger 1 3mo ago
There is nothing wrong with smashing single moms, in fact, I would say there is everything right with it. It's a less complicated, more straightforward deal - she wants to smash, you want to smash - get it on.
You are overthinking. I have had a few FWB things with single moms and honestly, some of the best, most honest, least complicated interactions you can have.
things I love about plating single moms;
there is nothing 'gross' or 'weird' about banging a single mom while the kids are asleep upstairs. If you can't have sex in a house where there are kids, then you can't get married.
imstartingtolikehoes 3mo ago
I don't understand why you live in such a country.
oowiw 3mo ago
U like hoes? Cause we got hoes - maybe more in absolute terms and per-capita than anywhere else.