I talked to my friends about it and they agreed.

Her friends are probably single girls who can best be described as "mid". They're never going to give this woman any advice that will lead to her building a happy and healthy relationship with a man. Women keep women single on purpose.

it feels like it's the only thing we do, like the other day I wanted to actually watch the movie, and then we fucked instead.

You explained to her, logically, what was happening and she responded with her feelings. You're not discussing what is actually happening - you're discussing what she feels is happening which is a battle you cannot win, as her feelings are mutable and immune to facts.

I think we need to chill off of it for a while.

THIS IS A SHIT TEST. If it were me, the route I'd go is malicious compliance. I'd say "You're right" and let it drop.

Then I'd deny her sex and every time I did I'd say "I think we need to chill off of it for a while." and not negotiate further. Additionally, I'd decline offers to see her with the excuse "I made other plans today". The hamster in her will start spinning, thinking you're fucking another woman (hell, maybe you should. If a woman is not enthusiastic about sex me, I find someone who is).

This is bound to happen when you don't do anything of substance in a relationship. Yes sex is substantially but women in relationships want the whole emotional spectrum. Getting into a relationship is ostensibly about vetting a woman as a quality partner who earned your commitment and because she makes your life complimentary and better. If you purely only wanted to fuck her you wouldn't upgrade her to an LTR, that would be retarded when you could have a sex harem instead.

If you actually don't enjoy spending much other quality time with this chick i think in this case she actually has somewhat of a point. There are girls I've felt pretty good with, i actually will hold them the whole movie because that's something they add value to my life in or at least go do some other full activity with them somewhere out and the world and then drill them before or after or both, of that activity.

I actually do get the impression you view your LTR as a committed plate instead of an LTR. Also having to negotiate with her "that's a meaningful part of a relationship for me" was a bad move. "yeah sex feels good, it's fun" would have been better.

Some of you guys shouldn't be getting in LTRs unless a woman actually compliments your life such that you actually enjoy her company too because the things you do together actually enrich your life. Too many of you guys just see a plate with green flags and try to commit.

This isn't some speech on doing things that aren't sex because beta, I mean I'm being serious, some of you guys enter relationships for the wrong reasons and then end up giving the girl a unidimensional experience equivalent to that of a plate and when her the emotional rollercoaster she's expecting (sex, comfort, sex, warmth, sex, intimacy, sex, affection, sex, date, etc) gets subverted they hit you with shit like this.

A lot of you guys in LTRs wouldn't have this problem at all if you actually got into LTRs for their intended purpose

Don't allow her or her friends to get into your mentality. Women will always be more prone to herd mentality/caring about what the group thinks and being influenced by them.

Here's the truth: She wants sex too, & she's consensually giving it to you. She's pulling a ultimatum here, and as a fucking Chad, you don't deal with BS games like this.

I'd just thumbs up that last message, let her chase you after a few days and say sorry for listening to her friends. If she doesn't, it's good bye. You've already fucked and hopefully you have a rotation/other plates or at the least, other leads. Any other response would be a surrendering of power to her, which will ultimately have her lose respect for you anyway.

So be willing to lose this chick. For your own self respect bud

You will need to decide if this girl is LTR material or just a plate.

If LTR, I personally think it is normal to do some fun things such as Movie, Dining, Trips etc. My personal preference is to ensure both ends contribute something (besides sex). Even if I am financially better off, I will insist that my LTR pay for 40% - 50% of dates. The key difference would be she could take me on cheap dates, as long as she makes the effort to plan for them. Good practice if you ever plan to build anything with a LTR.

If plate, then it's mainly a cost-benefit analysis. Can you get what you want at a cheaper price elsewhere?

K: I think we need to chill off of it for a while

Once they go there, there's only one response: "Ok". Then see other women.

If you let them strong-arm you by you giving in to attempted withholding of sex, the relationship is going to be shit from that point on anyways.

But if you just go "ok", and she comes crawling back, that's a much better dynamic, one you can build something on. But nothing good ever comes from giving in.

Ok, you need to understand this deep deep in your soul.

"You just want me for sex" means "I am not as attracted to you as I was but I wish you to continue your provisioning and commitment but with less sex".

In short: you have shown too much provider behaviour and not enough demonstration that other women want to fuck you.

Women pull this exact line under the following circumstances:

• When you've had some sex
• When you are demonstrating commitment
• When her attraction decreases (possibly due to your commitment or provisioning behaviour).

It's a bluff to keep your interest while decreasing hers.

Women never say this when you use them for sex while seeing other women. They do not say it when you demonstrate zero commitment. Fuck buddies don't say this. They do not say it when they are fully attracted.

Painful, but you gotta understand this dynamic.

K: I think we need to chill off of it for a while.

At this point you have to agree to stop you being a chasing loser. You withdraw your commitment, you see other girls, you see less of her. Less sexual interest from her means you are free to see other women AND YOU TELL HER THIS.

"That's cool, it'll create some free time to hang around with other people". Then whatever happens you back off, stop provisioning, and reduce your commitment.

And critically, when she gets all hot and horny for you again: you learn that this is how she functions and you never again show the same level of commitment to her.