Been seeing this girl for 3 months. She chased me until I agreed to be exclusive with her. I see her almost every day now. She always cooks for me and we fuck almost every day. She seems very loyal and is mostly green flags.
So when I first met her I told her my expectations, if a girl is my girl she shouldn't have guy friends or be hanging out with dudes. She agreed and says she doesn't have many friends since she came from Ukraine a year ago.
When I first met her she goes to this gym and has a personal trainer and always mentions the dude (yeah here we go). I don't react at all every time she mentions the dude. She said her trainer was asking about hickeys and marks on her neck and eventually she posted us on Instagram and said her trainer was asking when she got a boyfriend. Says the trainer is going extra hard on her now.
One time we finished fucking and she starts talking about the trainer being hard on her recently. Honestly annoyed at this point and I say "so why do you always mention this guy?" " oh I see him all the time and don't know many other people here" I say "you should go to another gym, this guy obviously want to fuck you " " if you go back, I'm not helping you move" (looking back, this was a mistake for sure). She agrees but says she feels bad because he's a good guy.
Already regretted it the next day telling her to not go to that gym because it showed as insecurity or mate guarding.
I just helped her move into a new place recently. She has a gym that's right beside her place she was going to start going to. She sends me a snapchat of her at the gym this morning. I say: "oh nice, new gym?" She says " yeah it's better because it's closer" and i don't have to get up at 5"
Thing is.. I can see her location on snapchat (I guess she doesn't know) and she's at the other gym. So she lied to me and went to the other gym probably to see this trainer.
At this point I'm debating whether to call her out and withdraw attention or just withdraw attention without her knowing that I know she lied.
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lambOfGod 10mo ago
First off, she is slavic, therefore she is not 3rd world, but 6th world and a MASSIVE HIDDEN HOE.
Any woman that "escapes" to the Western hemisphere is a hidden slut. Slavic/Southern & Eastern European women are known for this man.
Just go to any bar/party in western europe and the only girls open to gangbangs and DPs that night, only if you don't tell, are slavic chicks.
You never, ever, ever date/marry/LTR a 3rd world woman. You might as well stay single for the rest of your life than believe the fairytale that a slavic woman presents to a man. They are very smart and therefore are horendously foxy and evil.
In regards to your situation, they are 100% already fucking, you're just the nice mattress she gets home to. Never tell her, use her and always, but always game other women, even if in an LTR, secretly. Your sexual entity on Earth should never be locked down by one single woman.
The fact that a woman knows and sees that you can get laid easily, even if she is your wife, it's your most important weapon, more important than your money, looks and even your own life.
HolUp 10mo ago
I mean the way she sucks my dick definitely has me knowing she's not innocent. I fucked her in change rooms and restaurant bathrooms and recorded that shit lol.
And she was in Switzerland, Czech Republic, and Austria before coming here. They probably banged before at least. I was spending every day with her and had her location but if she did something sneaky oh well.
I ended up meeting up with her and called her out on her lie. Told her we were done and to get out of my car. She called me 20 times that night.
I actually saw her again since she was begging and begging. She kept trying to kiss me but I never let her. I said let's fuck and I just had her ride me and I just laid there zoned out and left immediately after busting. She was a mess and keeps calling and texting.
I know how I shouldn't explain myself to her but I'm the type to usually hold my words so this time it felt good to actually speak my mind even if it's not the best move. Told her I don't view her the same way now and my attraction is gone. Said if she is going to act like any other girl I'll treat her like any other girl.
I'll probably cave and see her again but it's pretty disappointing she's probably another ho.
mattyanon Admin 10mo ago
Demote to FWB.
redhawkes 2 10mo ago
They are fucking, and you're the safety net and her escape plan from the shithole, it's all about the papers.
You did everything wrong and calling her out won't accomplish anything but her gaslighting you and playing the victim card.
Demote to plate, 3 months is a joke.
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redhawkes 2 10mo ago
Just ignore and withdraw affection. She'll get it. Or if you get it, use Amused Mastery.
Mateguarding and jealousy are the surest way to beta cuckdom.
Jealousy and those power games work on women, so they think they work on us too. Nope.
There's a thin line between shit test and disgust and it's up to you to draw that line.
Redpillpusher 10mo ago
Do not call her out so she can learn from her previous mistakes to perfect fooling you and guys like you in the future. Guys like you are the reason many females think men are idiots. You seem like someone with above average intelligence generally but when it comes to her, she makes you look retarded. To begin with, she is from Ukraine and is overly eager to get into a relationship and eventually quickly start a family with you, a Canadian citizen, yet you see nothing suspicious; as someone else said earlier, you are her citizenship papers. Secondly, I'm 95% sure they already had sex. if she really wasn't interested in this man, why even mention him? If a fat, unattractive co-worker routinely tried to get your attention would you tell your "girlfriend"? Exactly. Just like how a boxer in the beginning of a match will throw out light jabs to test his opponent's reflexes, assess his defense & movements, and gauge his reach, your "girlfriend" repeatedly brought him up to gauge how you would respond and your boundaries. You've shown that your boundaries are worthless. This is important because, if you decide to stay with her she will know how to lie and how to assess your behavior and awareness by how you fumbled this. Know she is getting smashed by him and will utterly destroy you if you get serious with her
Desertking 10mo ago
Call her out
HolUp 10mo ago
Hmm I wan to but not sure if it's the move. If I tell her I saw her location she'll just start to hide it so I won't I have an upperhand knowing.
I was thinking of saying my friend that goes to that gym saw her there.
Desertking 10mo ago
That is a better way , look for her behaviour when you say that .there is a chance that she can turn passive aggressive or just blame you for being insecure etc. That it's pretty much over
Lone_Ranger 2 10mo ago
Hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm. You set a boundary, and she ignored it. So you think you trouble is that she lied, but you'd be wrong. The trouble is that she now knows that your boundaries are flexible. She now thinks that it doesn't matter what your rules are, she can get away with doing what she wants.
When a woman is playing the jealousy thing on you (they all do) you need to respond by withdrawing the things that she likes, like cuddles or time with you. The minute she starts with that shit (She will) you need to withdraw, become busy with work, and then spend time going out with your buddies. You need to condition her that if she wants nice times with you, she will have to behave nicely.
Now you have an issue. She is not only getting what she wants out of her jealousy provocations (your mateguarding), she now knows your boundaries are all bluff.
You tell me, what should you do?
HolUp 10mo ago
You're completely right about the ignoring of a boundary I set.
I'm all for withdrawing my time and attention for her not behaving but if I do that without letting her know for what then it seems pointless. So I should call her out but that could just back fire and make her hide her tracks more.
You're right that the action is worse than the lie but now I just see her as a liar. I'll see her tonight and put her on the spot and remove attention the rest of the week.
EurasianChad 1 10mo ago
"the girls who I take seriously dont do x" is the most simple boundary statement you can give that doesn't come across as aggressive or controlling. Say that then withdraw cuddles/affection/attention etc.
lonewolf1 10mo ago
Cancel the date tonight, say you're busy with some stuff. Withdraw attention slowly. Don't call anything out beta billy, never mention it.
Dig her guts out harder and better and game other hoe's immediately.
HolUp 10mo ago
Probably the best move. You don't think her knowing why I'm withdrawing attention is important?
lonewolf1 10mo ago
You exposed your hand, she smells your insecurity and gets more attracted to the other dude.
Irrelevant, you are busy. Let her hamster spin off the wheels a bit and create space for now if you wanna keep plowing her guts a bit longer. The end is near anyways, champ.
She drained your balls, you had fun. Bonus points and she will boomerang back if you dump her unexpectedly.
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HolUp 10mo ago
I'm in Canada. She's been talking about wanting kids and a family and me to move in and meet my parents and friends lol. She definitely had me reeled into the idea. She even said she wanted us to do a video call to Ukraine with her parents and she's posting pic of us.
Yeah and the time she mentioned the dude after I just fucked her made me immediately suspicious that they've fucked before.
It's too bad because we've had a lot of fun and she's seemed submissive and feminine playing her role cooking and caring for me. But her lying about this makes me see her differently now.
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HolUp 10mo ago
Yeah you're right bro, good advice.
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Overkill_Engine 2 10mo ago
This. Never tell a ho how to get better at being a ho. Never tell them how you caught them. Never tell them that they demoted themselves fucktoy-only-forever.
You just enact the consequences, and it is not up for discussion/debate/closure/whatever bloopy bullshit rationalization that will just end up with her reassigning blame onto you and/or getting better at being a lying ho.
Demonstrate, don't explicate.
AbusiveFather1 10mo ago
you're fucked. it's only a matter of time before toxic american women pollute her mind and consume her entirely.