t's not rare when my mother notices them and starts talking about them, in the process I get sad because I'm nowhere near that, and she also mocks my father appearance (I'm a younger taller version than him).

Your mother is mistreating your father ...... learn this lesson: he committed to her and raised you, and this is what she thinks of him.

But also, she is impacting your self esteem. She's probably attacked your self esteem for years.

If you read to this far, thanks for your time, I'd appreciate suggestions, I could develop more on some points if you need it.

What physical shape are you in? do you lift? low bodyfat? IF NOT WHY NOT?

Let's be real.

You're 17. You don't have enough life experience to have an opinion about this.

I know its been said in almost every post, but you are 17 - without a joke, the world is your oyster! You can DO or train to be anything you want to be and have decades ahead of you!

There is always going to be taller, more attractive people around you. You need to stop seeing them as better. They might initially turn heads ; but you can often outsmart these people or end up being the most interesting person in the room - if you do the work.

First thing I'd suggest is get used to yourself and start loving yourself. You might not be the most naturally attractive man in the room -and I'm not going to lie, it helps being attractive ; but posture, good fitness, clothes that fit, mannerisms etc can turn women. I'm guessing if you feel in awe of better looking men, then this will be subconsciously affecting your behaviour when talking to attractive women.

When I was younger, I belittled my genetics - they aren't great but not terrible either - I kept thinking if only my ears were a little smaller ; jawline was more chiseled and it'll drive you crazy, and if you think about it too much you'll start behaving like a chump too believing sometimes you don't belong in certain circles.

You need to let insults and roasts go too. Sensitive people dwell on what others think of them. Just shrug it all off, including rejections from women. I was too scared to ask women out when I was your age because the shame of being rejected ; don't do this - your BDD etc will just get worse and you'll have a very bad straw man argument when you're late 20s ''I could have dated her etc If I had just asked her out,''

You've got so much time to work on yourself and do this! And you can!

You might be able to hit another growth spurt if you go for it. Aim to stay on a calorie surplus, loads of animal protein such as beef, milk, fish and eggs. Also quality source of carbs such as white rice, sweet potatoes and normal potatoes etc.

Also hit the gym obviously and sleep 8+ hours per night.

Regardless, hit the gym and looks-max as much as you can; groom well, get nicely fitted clothes and a good haircut. In your age, looks > finances with girls. So aim for both to play the longer game too.

Lmaoo kid, you won the lottery by finding TRP at 17.

So much info and sources, yet you're here whining about your inferiority complex. Stop comparing to others, you'll always come second best. Not because you're some grotesque, but because you compare apples and oranges. You always compare yourself to someone better, not worse.

You can't be someone else, so use TRP as a tool to become the best version of yourself. For now, you got it all wrong.

External validation is like filling bottomless bucket.

Start with the sidebar now. At 17, you're invisible as your SMV is shit. But, if you start investing in yourself, your 20's will be awesome. Stop listening to what thots on ig and shittok say, her looks is all a facade and they're dumb af. That shit is literally created to breed simps and betas if you're not using it as a marketing tool. Your self worth comes from achievement, not from hoes.

Learn game, you have the resources on the main sub. Start with the Book Of Pook. Lookup theredarchive and click on askTRP. You have 1000% of questions answered there by experienced users and OG's.

Most important, take massive action. Without action, you'll turn into mentally masturbating larper, who reads shit just to feel the dopamine spike and keeps doing the same thing.

and am learning a high-income skill to make money on the internet

what skill is that?

You’re 17. It’s not uncommon to suck with women at that age. I did. Still kind of do which is why I’m here.

still see myself as someone unattractive physically.

You’re going to need to get with some chicks for these feelings to go away. There’s NOTHING like getting with chicks that improves a man’s self esteem, I don’t care what anyone on here says. You don’t have to be perfect, but you have at least TRY. I had zero confidence in myself at first but I pushed myself to cold approach chicks and my experiences surprised me. I lost my virginity and slept with a few other chicks.

5'9 at 17yo

So, you’re average height. Shut up. If you were 5’3”, I’d be sympathetic. I’m 6’4” and I know you think that should grant me instant pussy, it DOESN’T! I still get rejected and there were guys your height that get boat loads more action than me.

A few things to unpack.

You’re only 17. Like the other posters have said, count your blessings that you found TRP at such an age.

And since you’re only 17, you’re at the bottom of the barrel of the male SMV. It’s going to suck for a few years to come. It’s going to feel bitter and brutal knowing this.

Have faith when we say it gets better. Focus on your life to make it one worth living, without needing to have a woman as the star ontop.

Then by looking at what girls on the internet

There's your first problem

and in real life

More applicable but still that's another story

17yo

I didn't see that coming. You're young as fuck dude. This shouldn't be eating you alive man. You're young and horny. I can understand the frustration but let's take some actionable steps here. Here I was thinking you were gonna be mid 20s or 30

she also mocks my father appearance (I'm a younger taller version than him)

Your mom sounds like a b*tch. Don't take her seriously

but I'm tired of living like this.

You're like 17, dude. You haven't been at a dating age remotely long enough to be this down in the dumps about it. Chill out.

trying to get a gf.

Another huge problem leading to your overly out of proportion depressive spiral. A man's job is not to seek commitment. Your job is getting sex. Read HumanSockPuppet's bitch management hierarchy because you have this completely backwards

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