So I got banned from my place of religion for suggesting we separate the sexes and that the religion had become feminized and gynocentric. It basically confirmed exactly what I had been saying. So I've decided to do a hard fork of the religion. Let them be known as the weak church and mine will be one with male-only spaces.
It's basically the same problem everyone here on this site has had in the past with reddit, facebook, twitter, youtube, etc. And since we all have this site up already it wouldn't be hard to segment off a portion of it for a male-only religion. I like to think of it as going beyond red pill.
So who wants to help? In case you're wondering what I have in mind it's basically a copy/paste of https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/ which is basically a female-correct version of red pill that adds layers of Daoism, stoicism, buddhism, and others.
I'll kick it off with a couple rules:
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NO CHICKS! Get your own religion or go to that other female-correct temple.
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No politics.
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Read the red pill side bar before joining.
- Rule Zero: This is strictly for the betterment of men's spirituality.
Also can somebody flag the people who could make this happen on this site? Us men need this so badly. We will become divine Knights(real ones, not just people faking it online), resurrect the Patriarchy and chivalry, and pledge our lives to one another and restore order to the universe. I'm so sick of this fucking clown world, you have no idea.
souldrone 2y ago
Welcome to the conclusion of Nietzche. It was always like that. Religion prays on the weak and needs the weak to expand.
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whytehorse2021 2y ago
So the first thing we need is a space separated from AskTRP and red pill theory. Then we need to come up with a doctrine of sorts. A lot of that work was already done by the Jedis way back before the women ruined it. It was based on chivalry from the knights of old.
I'm waiting for the mods and site owner to chime in to see if they want to host it here. I think that would be great as they have a transparency report, do a great job keeping the chicks out, and we can focus on the men rather than spammers, banners, wokesters, etc. If they do decide to take it on you could help with moderation, content, etc.
Anyway we can discuss in the meantime. I'm planning to drop the Jedi analogy and the fictional Force narrative. Something more real. Like replacing God/Force/etc. with perfect order and natural harmony. Sort of like a yin/yang type of thing where order is good and chaos is evil. The purpose of man in this type of religion is to bring about order from the chaos. Something that aligns with red pill without having to cherry pick the parts.
Andrew Tate had an interesting take on religion. He said that you can think of God as a concept. A higher order. And if you believe that evil exists, you have to believe good exists. And then you have to ask where that good comes from. And you realize it is a higher power. You could call it The Order. I like to think of it as a collective consciousness that comes about from people interacting and talking. It's what created the manosphere, red pill, etc.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
Respectfully, I just don't have interest in moderating a religion on this site, which is inevitably what I'd have to do as a site admin if we went out of our way to host it here (as in, actively host it top down where I have to do work to maintain it)
I personally don't want to put any effort into it and think it's a huge distraction from RP and am personally not going to take any of it on.
Now, if you wanted to make your own tribe, and that tribe and the religion all followed the site's rules sitewide then you could mod it on your own
I would, however, not let anyone in your tribe rip on anyone that doesn't want to partake in in. The same way it would be annoying if someone insisted another user change to Christianity or Islam on here, if you make a tribe about a red pill religion don't try to coerce other users into it or complain if they don't.
Not willing whatsoever to have that kind of distraction on here where I constantly have to admin being pushed into modding jahovas witness type exchanges every day where everyone feels like it's pushed on them. The same way I don't make people join my memes or satire tribe I would expect your idea respects the wishes of other user's experience on here to not feel forced to join something
I personally would recommend you make it a private tribe via invite in which people who are truly interested in it can join it.
Tagging the other admins:
@redpillschool @mattyanon
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
Agreed..... put it in a tribe, don't nag people about joining it.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Well it doesn't sound like many people are interested and it's a lot of work so I'll just pass. Enjoy the decline. Sanity is the new wealth.
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whytehorse2021 2y ago
Yeah I just stumbled on some stuff last night. As it turns out there are several things beyond red pill. Evolutionary psych/bio has several blind spots. A big one being epigenetics. It kinda blows the whole nature vs nurture thing out of the water. And that's not even an ideology but you'll never see it discussed in the manosphere.
redpillschool Admin 2y ago
You could do it as non private, but yeah make a tribe. Tribes now can make forums by default. I'd be curious what is discussed
fskfsk 2y ago
Your plan can't work in any Western country. If your "men only" religion gets any sort of traction at all, there will be women suing demanding you let them join. You will go to court and lose.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Who will they sue? I already decided to not form a legal entity like a 501c3. Me personally? An online alias? Other members?
fskfsk 2y ago
They find some bogus excuse and charge you personally with a crime. Not having a formal entity isn't protection.
If you ever plan to meet in person, an online alias isn't good enough. There also are ways to determine the real identity of an online alias, no matter what precautions you take.
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MonteroS 2y ago
Dont religion establishments in us have separate set of rules?
fskfsk 2y ago
If they can make a Christian bake a cake glorifying homosexuality, they can also force you to allow women to join your "men only" club or religion. There are people who would do it just because they enjoy ruining your fun, and not because they genuinely want to join.
Are you willing to blow millions on legal fees even when you probably will lose in the end?
MonteroS 2y ago
I have 0 doubts about that. Question is genuine.
fskfsk 2y ago
We no longer live in a "rule of law" society. If people with money and power want to ruin you, they will find a way to ruin you.
If your religion has any success at all, you will have prosecutors going through everything you do with a fine-tooth comb. If a single thing is even vaguely out of order, you will be prosecuted. The prosecutor doesn't even have to win; they just have to force you to waste time and money defending yourself.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
I mean yeah exactly. What's to stop women from both reading and worshipping it as well?
And they'll just start their own denominations, some guys will tell their wives about it, etc
Not sure how this is remotely possible as envisioned without shariah law like rules in the country
whytehorse2021 2y ago
It's actually been done. We have fraternities, freemasons, mosques to name a few.
TRPDuryodhana 2y ago
It can actually be done, even in western countries. There are, for example, traditionalist Buddhist communities that don't ordain women as monastics; women are basically banned from taking leadership or teaching positions for ethics, meditation and so on.
And this is a place in California, one of the heartbelts of neoliberal fuckery from what I see. And the monk who runs that place is very well known around the buddhist circles all over the world (source: im buddhist).
So it can defo. be done, though modernist types will shit on you from time to time (but who cares about them, right?)
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
No thanks.