Background: 25 years old, live with my parents, hard worker in the gym for many years, social interactions limited to friends I played video games with so no real experience making friends or flirting with girls. Had some positive interactions recently with strangers in the gym though so gaining a little experience.
There's a girl at my gym who works and works out there. She's interested in me cause of my physique and a confident way of speaking that I used when she was working the front desk and checked me in. Today I avoided looking at her while she kept positioning herself near me to avoid seeming over eager and make her work for my attention. Finally, I looked towards her face and she looked at me slightly over her shoulder, looked away, looked back, and did a smile without showing her teeth, I did a similar smile, then we both looked away and did not interact for the rest of the time I was there.
I've built decent inner game where I have confidence based on my ability to do whatever I decide to work on, and have recently greatly improved how I appear to others in terms of clothes and how I move through the environment, head held high, eyes looking straight ahead, good expression on my face, speaking with more emotion and in a confident manner. However, I don't have much experience even talking to other guys. I have a couple friends, but they are gamers and our social interactions might not be what "normal" people have. I know most of it is my tone and body language which I think I can do alright on, but I'm a little lost on what to actually say.
Is this a good way to ask her out: me: "Hi, how are you" her: "good" me: "Good, glad to hear it. You've been waiting for this for a little while now so I won't keep you in suspense any longer. Without further ado, let me introduce myself, my name is Matt, what's your name? " her: "name" if she tries to deny playfully she wasn't waiting for me to come talk to her I'll say something about how I find shyness, feigned or not, an endearing quality in a girl and that she earns points for that. me: "It's lovely to meet you, I have a busy schedule between the gym and my other projects, but I'll see if I can find some time for us to hang out soon. Give me your contact info and I'm sure I'll be in touch shortly."
Then when texting her say something like "Hi it's the hardest worker in the gym that you can't stop thinking about" Wait for her response and banter with her if I can think of something to say then tell her "Come over for drinks this date and time"
If I take her to my parents house ideal time would be after they've gone to sleep at 10 or 11 pm and then I could use the basement and play some music, offer her some drinks, chat with her a bit, then try to fuck her? What's the best way to go about it?
Can anyone give me a rough outline step by step of what the process should look like or resources that would describe this stuff in more detail? Is the dialogue I suggested for talking to her in the gym and texting her good enough? Need some advice here because this could be a good opportunity I just don't have the experience to know what to do.
RedPill115 2y ago
Game describes you need 2 things to sleep with a girl:
1. Attraction
2. Comfort
Trying to describe how to create comfort without it starting to reduce attraction is difficult to describe though.
It's hard to give advice since you live at home - I think your general theory of inviting her over is good, when it becomes to complicated women start to feel uncomfortable - better to keep it simple like you're doing.
Dunno about this part though:
The thing is that whatever you do is congruent with your character. Sometimes being more direct makes her feel more comfortable because she doesn't have to be concerned she'll get invested then get rejected and hurt her ego. This wouldn't work for me but if it's congruent with your personality/appearance it works for those people.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Sounds like she did a double-take. You can just take her home and fuck her. No need to overthink it.
Matthew 2y ago
How would that work? Just tell her to come home with me directly from the gym? Get her number and tell her what reason for coming over, can you provide examples of what to say here I don't quite get it, it's not a social situation I've ever experienced before.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
You can do whatever you want at this point. Me personally I'd ask her out for a fruit smoothie(we have one across the street from my gym) and chat her up and then take her back to my place. Once you get the double-take it doesn't really matter. The ball is in your court. Either you cum directly on her cervix while she's ovulating or you go masturbate to porn.
Matthew 2y ago
How dominant do you like to be with these girls that are clearly very into you. This seems like the kind of scenario where I could jump on her as soon as we are in a private place and she would be all for it. Is doing things like getting really close to her face and making her look at you and telling her how she's been imagining this for a long time and she's lucky her weak little girl mind now has a master to control her. Making her call you master and beg for your cock. Tell her how you own her mind, body, and soul. Is that all too much for the first time hook up or is that a good way to get her even more hooked immediately. Obviously build up to it and don't just start with I own your soul. I'd ideally like to make her a plate.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Just whatever she's comfortable with.
Lone_Ranger 3 2y ago
Good lord this is ultra spergy and autistic.
Sorry to be hard on you dude, but I think that is what is needed here.
You are so far off base its not even funny. You are living a fantasy life in your own head. You even say it yourself, when you say "I have built decent inner game.." WTF is 'inner game'? Is that where you cold approach girls in your own fantasy world, and they go all weak at the knees, and then you take them home and fuck them? Becuase that is what it sounds like.
Then you go on to type out an imaginary future conversations, including her imaginary answers. Good lord. And ask unknown randoms on the internet if this is a good plan.
Listen, I'm on your side, I'm being blunt with you because you have to see the truth. This is the wrong path to go down. You are building up this interaction in your head by playing it like some fantasy league football shit. Stop it.
You said yourself that you have 'no experience making friends' and that your life is online video games and you live with your parents. That is your problem right there. I can tell you categorically, there is no magic combination of words or text messages or pick up lines that is going to make is so that you can pick up chicks.
The reason for this? You are clearly socially isolated. Women are very tuned into social hierarchy and networks. They do NOT want to have anything to do with outcasts and social rejects. They would much rather be with a shy guy, who is fun, has a social network, is known and liked by others.
Other spergs on this forum will sometimes ask things like "My crush is chasing this guy, and he's not even a chad - he's like 5'8, does not have a 6 pack, stupid hair, weak fashion. I'm really tall, smashing it in the gym, 6-pack, great fashion, sharp hair, - why is my crush chasing this other dude?
And I know why - because the OP is a spergy loner ...and women don't want that - the want the guy with plenty of friends, a big social network. They hate loners. They want the guy that comes into a cafe with 2 friends, has a laugh with the barrister, sits down next to a group of other women, makes some jokes and chit chat, DOESN'T HIT ON THEM WITH CORNY ONE LINERS, and then leaves WITHOUT ASKING FOR PHONE NUMBERS. That is true abundance mindset - they guy that talks easily to everyone, and has so much confidence that he doesn't turn every interaction into 'game'. They like the guy that seems to know everyone, or gets to know them. They hate the loner, who then hits on them with 'game' that they obviously learnt from some shit PUA course.
Brother - if you really want to make progress, with women and in life in general, you need to drop the video games and live your life IRL. develop a social hobby - actually, make it two. And start talking to everyone - not just women that you want to game. Being social is a skill that has to be learned - devote time and energy to it.
And I know what you are going to say - that you are autistic and a loner, introvert etc etc etc. These are just labels holding you back. Get rid of them and set yourself free.
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RedPill115 2y ago
Where in this word salad did you offer anything useful?
Lone_Ranger 3 2y ago
yeah, and your response was gold?
RedPill115 2y ago
You copy-pasted this trolling bit from somewhere else.
He left the house and talked to some people, and asked for advice.
Your response was that he needs to leave the house and talk to some people.
It's like a bot posting based on keywords.
Lone_Ranger 3 2y ago
I copy pasted? Show me from where, shit for brains.
Yeah, my advice to OP was to practice his social skills, which is sound advice to anyone that is basically writing scripts in his head.
Your comments are no use to anyone, and then you accuse me of bot posting. Yeah, probably you need to go practice your social skills as well.
Not even sure why you are on this thread trying to trash me....maybe I hit a nerve with you when I said 'spergy autism' - yeah...that must be it.
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RedPill115 2y ago
Nothing more to add, you did the same nonsense as before.
An entire page of text where you offered no meaningful advice you just told them they should be doing what they're already doing.
Lone_Ranger 3 2y ago
So in the first line of OP's post, he says
"social interactions limited to friends I played video games with so no real experience making friends"
So OP is clearly stating that his issue is social isolation. So my advice 'to develop social skills' is NOT what he is already doing.
I'm going to have to assume one of the following;
a) You are retarded. You cannot process meaning, even from clearly written text.
b) you are some sort of spergy baiting troll.
Either way, you are a waste of everyone's time, because you contribute NOTHING to OPs request, and to make it worse, you attack people who actually do reply with thoughtful responses.
You're a leech and loser.