hello brothers. I recently immigrated to US from Europe and have been experiencing culture shock ever since; women, values, food - you name it. one notable difference is the amount of fatherless men here that have never caught a beating and think it's okay to disrespect people and things they hold dear (like family, religion and so forth), since the law is protecting them. the usual stance on this matter is "it's just words" and "stop being insecure"; back in Europe, we don't go around knocking on each-other's heads with a club for any reason, but there's a certain line that, as a man, you don't cross - a line that doesn't seem to exist in US anymore (the older American population tells me it was different before). if you cross that line, the normal outcome is that there's a fist-fight, and while things like stabbings do happen, they are rare - therefore if you disrespect someone, more often than not you know what you're doing and a beating is a price you're willing to pay. if cops were to even be involved, they'd just break it up and let everyone go their separate ways; at worst it's a night at the police department and you're free to go, no charge or anything, since it would destroy a man's reputation if he were to press charges against someone he had a fight with. here on the other hand, i see these weak men disrespecting others and then hiding behind either the cops or guns. my question would be: is educating disrespectful people in a language they understand the most 100% a guaranteed ticket to jail in US? i came here to earn some money; when i do get a chance to socialize, i find that that it's increasingly difficult to find young adult men and women that are not obnoxious, and this sometimes limits my interactions to older generations, which I welcome, but I would also like to meet younger people of my age (20s).
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Ibanez 3y ago
Haha, they are Zoomers. They are the literal fags of the earth and the worst generation yet, even worse that Millenials. Uneducated, incompetent, feminine and ultra beta. 80% of TRP does not apply to zoomers as they are class A NPCs and beta. Not even to Zoomer girls, because they are insanely mentally ill. Anyone who fucked hoes that are 18-24 now, not 10 years ago, could attest to this.
TRP started by Millenials being its target and most numerous audience and will end with Zoomers. There will be no TRP after Zoomers, when gen Alpha comes.
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unknown39 3y ago
I feel you. As an immigrant I’ve also noticed there’s a lot of bitch made men in America. They hide behind laws. There is no code of honor here.
I’ve been tempted many times to deck a motherfucker but then realized it’s not worth it. If you think about it, they’re just like little bitches trying to get a reaction from you. Refuse the gift of anger. It will make them feel silly.
amazonri 3y ago
Im American. Where are you from and why are they fucking with you? I agree that a lot of Americans are beta social justice warriors. But not a lot are going around picking fights.
I do agree about the code of honor. Its every man for themself out here in the land of opportunity. You have to think about it this way- Americans have code of honor- but its too themselves and their family (self-interest). The only thing America has going for it is economic opportunity, socially and dating wise it sucks ass. A lot of Americans have become cutthroat in their upward mobility of chasing money. And the social justice bullshit makes everyone hide behind laws, not only men but the women and young women too.
I live outside America now. But honestly I dont find American men to be the problem socially. Theres still good guys there and I can easily get along with most American men. Socially its the women who suck, theyre super entitled. Even the older ladies are becoming entitled too. Not that im trying to fuck them, but just talking to them casually you can see it spreading to them too.
unknown39 3y ago
Middle eastern living in NYC. It’s never the accomplished / older guys but the broke / lost boys. You can see the envy in their eyes. They like to bicker and hurt your ego.
I had a few “friends” like that who got really bitchy when I attracted cuties in their social circles and then treated them with indifference. “You better treat her right man.”
Same types to talk about “trash men manipulating women” and the types to be “good friends” to women.
Never had this issue before I started making dough / gained muscle. Even get accused of not being a good person lol
amazonri 3y ago
Oh ok, then i can relate. I have been in both Latin America and America. Here in America we have a well known dating crisis. 20% of men are fucking all the women. America is hypercompetitive. A lot of Gen Z grew up beta and are just now finding out they are not able to handle the real world at 18 years old, and that they are beta and unattractive to women.
In other words, they are the most beta of our generation of men. And are being brought into one of the harshest dating environments maybe on planet earth (America). Arguably all-time (2023 wokeness and feminism at all time high combined with social media age and Online Dating). American men have it tooooughh. We are very high value in other parts of the world where were not playing at an uneven playing field.
So theres a lot of incels. These guys are jealous when you are high smv. But THEY WONT FIGHT YOU. They are just passive aggressive like women. They will try to treat you like theyre above you, have bitchy attitudes and generally be dismissive of you.
I live in Latin America now. Here in Brazil there are not many incels. Too many hot women and the guys are generally alpha here. Not much hating going on. Theres enough for everyone. And Brazil generally has a healthy and easy dating culture.
TLDR' sexually frustrated losers in a harsh dating environment. they hate on high smv guys
nicknack 3y ago
Americans are lame man don’t worry about it. Not worth stressing over them. Just make your money and use the current economic power to your advantage:
amazonri 3y ago
Heres my take as an American who has traveled the world (Im 28 and live in other countries):
The #1 thing we hear when traveling to other countries is to respect the land, its culture, the people, the food. This goes for every country, but for whatever reason people think its socially acceptable to hate on Americans and everyone gives them a pass. Not sure why, but realize this is what youre doing. Im not going to move to Brazil and complain about Brazil to Brazilians, thats a really bad look. Im currently in Brazil at the moment. I chose to be here.
As an American, I am shocked Americans are trying to fight you. I dont find American men to generally be confrontational and picking fights. We are a pretty "focus on yourself" culture. A lot of American men are becoming workplace zombies with no lives, fighting is not on the forefront of their brains.
Americans are very simple. We are workaholics, and big consumers. Its a cycle a lot of Americans are stuck in. In nature they are constantly self-absorbed and self-focused on themselves, and dont really talk to strangers and stay in their own lane. Its really confusing that youre butting heads with them. I also find most young American men to be beta in general, as a result of living in peaceful security all their lives.
Where do you live? Just like any country, different parts act differently. If youre in a bigger city, the people may seem less friendly. IVe heard on the East Coast in Philadelphia and NY the guys are douchebags but theyre just a product of their environment. That doesnt necessarilly mean theyre roaming the streets for fights.
I honestly think that because were a superpower in the world that we are hated on by Western rivals such as European countries. Ive been to other countries, and were treated very respectfully just for having an American passport. In the entire world ts only Europeans who seem to be adverse to us, and maybe Chinese people - but that has more to do with our wartime tensions in recent times.
AbusiveFather1 3y ago
That’s the thing - they’re not trying to fight me, rather they’re trying to provoke me into a fight to then promptly call the cops on me or reach for the heater, but never fight.
amazonri 3y ago
Well you wrote it in your post. In your hometown at worst its a night in jail. Im American and the general consensus is that if we get in a fight and get caught by police there is no slap on the wrist. We generally believe well get an assault or battery charge or something on our record that can prevent us from being hired somewhere. Most realistically a fine and lots of court dates
This may channel a lot of American's men fighting energy into provoking since they know theres consequences in the next step. If we had laws like your hometown maybe these guys would fight and have gotten beat up once in their life and learned to not be so passive aggressive.
Theres also the fact that a lot of Americans in certain states are armed and can legally shoot you if you fight them. Im from California and its common to hear of guys who pull out knives during a fist fight, or guys who will smash a vodka bottle on your head at a houseparty or at the bar, or even have a gun.
Fighting in America Consequences: Jail, Charges that will prevent you from getting a career, fines, court dates, risk of being stabbed or shot. Possibility of being sued, and possiblity of hurting someone bad enough and it counting as attempted murder or manslaughter. Also very inconsistent laws regarding self-defense that put your fate into the hands of the polices judgment.
Basically its not just a fight, theres a bunch of bullshit attached to it, it may be why a lot of Americans push as far as they can short of actual fighting, because they know theres a big price to pay.
Also, I say all this to also remind you that some Gen Z boys are soyboys. But remember what American was founded on, if we were invaded we would be the most armed country in the world.
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User4566 3y ago
Where are you meeting these people? I'm white and I'm born here and I still get people treating me "different" yet they're the SAME ones that bitch and complain to be "treated like everyone else".
Just 2 nights ago, I was walking into a bar and before I entered, some 5 foot tall latina who worked there was giving me lip about "you need to buy a drink, I don't want to follow you around all night" and I was kind of pissed because she was giving me a hard time before I even got in, I never even went there! The bouncer was a skinny black guy who was cool as fuck and friendly, let me in no problem, but she stopped me entering. I just rolled my eyes and cringed at her and walked right past her and she said "why you rolling your eyes, why you rolling your eyes?".
I wanted to tell her to swallow my load but I knew the bouncer would have had to do his job and escort me out so I kept my mouth shut. I was thinking if the shoe was on the other foot and I, a white guy, started to pick on a latina trying to get into a bar, I'd probably be recorded and yelled at and fired for "racial profiling".
People in USA are pretty soft because people who get into fights usually go to jail, get sued and all that shit so when people start bad mouthing, they don't get the proper punch in the face they need to wake up and go "oh shit, my actions have consequences?!" I agree, a lot of people in this country totally need a well-deserved ass whooping. I live on the east coast, so there's a ton of people who think the world revolves around them and how their parents bought them a BMW for their 16th birthday and everyone needs to give them attention.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is, people in this country are a mixed bag.
amazonri 3y ago
I always wondered why were pretty soft generally. That does explain it pretty clear.
If you read my comment i said the same thing. My social experiences in America is that men could be jealous haters, but they never try to fight me or anything. I can tolerate that. But mainly its the womens attitude that SUCKS. Its clearly America because i have lived in various countries in Latin America and Latina women are naturally traditional, feminine, submissive in their home countries. Put her in USA and you get that shit.
You shouldve never rolled your eyes though. That encourages girls to start giving you negative vibes. They think "Im getting under his skin... YES!!!" which is super fucking immature and something i hate about female nature. I guess when youre the weaker gender they look for any opportunity to feel stronger than you. Dont give them that satisfaction.
brabissimo 3y ago
I don't live in the US, but as a man with common sense i think the best way to answer that is for you to question yourself : "Is this little shit disrespecting me worth going to jail or getting sued?" , "Is he someone whose opinion have any value for me or anyone?" , "Is it worth it for me to jeopardise my goals for this guy?". Reflect on that.
If i were in your shoes i would just ignore it and move on (if they are just spewing words), as you said yourself all those weak men without any father don't know what respect, reputation or honor means, i don't think they would think twice to go to the cops as the little fucking snowflakes they are, now if they lay a finger on you, i think its game on, words don't mean shit to a man who has his shit together, but physical violence is straight up a challenge that should not be ignored.
whytehorse2021 3y ago
Dude those are Zoomers you're talking about. They have zero respect for men and are very effeminate. My son is a Zoomer and all the kids he knows are complete losers. Like we're talking about people that don't know how to use a can opener. They were raised by women or betas.
Keep in mind that Zoomers are the smallest generation in US history and we have an ageing population so numerically there are just more older people. The average age is 38.
I don't really know what to tell you. If you get an assault on your record nobody will hire you so it's not worth it. Just ignore the idiots. There will be a certain demographic of people where you live that have their shit together. Where I live it's typically 1st and 2nd gen Mexican-Americans, farmers, and truck drivers. You just have to find them.