I have lived in Both Brazil and Colombia. I find that Colombian girls are way more attracted to me than Brazilian. I suppose part of it is obviously language barrier. Not that my Spanish is fluent either. (Brazil speaks portugese not spanish)
Im a gringo and look white. But my success was almost night and day in Colombia. Simple things like walking down the street will get me checked out by unbelievable beauties. Every store interaction with a cute girl she will flirt with me and give me those eyes. I recall just one time getting followed because she wanted me to approach her badly by this Colombian 18 year old girl with huge busty tits and no bra, insane slender waist and thicc ass looking like an Amazonian beauty. I ended up talking to her and she was a plate while i was living in that city, but i had to leave a few months after.
I find Brazil to have a European attitude generally, I think from their Portugese and German conquerors. The only thing latin about Brazil is that they eat rice and beans and their women look latina especially in their body type. But most of the locals look black or heavily european mixed. So i think this plays a role.
Dont get me wrong. I hooked up with some Brazilian girls here. The ones i did hook up with treated me really good. Almost better than Colombians. They may be better quality in the long run and Colombians may be easier.
Anyways...
I found generally a better experience in Colombia personally. The woman love me more, and the locals are friendlier, it felt like a purely 100% latin experience compared to Brazil. Generally these cultures view sex as not a big deal. And social interactions are like butter and it would be awkward if you didnt make small talk or greet people passing by on the street.
In Colombia They literally just like my look more. Its really that simple, theyre more attracted to my physical appearance here in this part of the world. It makes everything easier. Let me add that im part Latino, so its not because i look like a walking money bag white dude with blue eyes lmao. Now that were talking about this, i had many white blond hair blue eye friends here in Colombia and went out with them, many times they went home alone. It helps but its not an absolute cheat code. Theres a lot of misinfo going around about being a white man in Latin America is free pussy. Thats more of a Southeast Asia thing. Latino men have game and bad boy swag and can dance. You have to beat them at their own game, you cant be a stuttering white man here and expect to beat out these narco bad boys lol. Youll be surprised how many European backpacker girls i seen hook up with ghetto Colombian thugs with tattoos over an European frat kid on vacation they met at the hostel or bar.
**P.S. This is important to mention for context: Its not just me or anything. Its just their general culture. I dont see Brazilian girls flirting with Brazilian guys on every corner. Its common to wait in line at a random restaurant in Colombia and see a male customer calling the cashier "mi amor" and touching her shoulder and her giggling and reciprocating. I cant recall being in a store or club and seeing Brazilian girls hitting or gawking at a local man or anything. It seems much more European culture where its "inappropriate" like feminist culture kind of.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Different country = different culture. In general, every country has a very small group of people who are interested in interracial and/or international relationships. These people tend to be concentrated in certain places where those foreigners go. So, for example, if you're a gay Indonesian guy into white guys you'd go work at a hotel in Bali. If you're a Thai chick you'd go into an English program and then work for the airlines/cruises/hotels/etc.
So it could be that you went to the wrong/right places. When I'm out teaching in a Thai village I usually have to go to a very specific bar, possibly in another town, to find chicks. But when I'm in class I'm surrounded by chicks that want a foreign guy(but they're too young).
amazonri 1y ago
Definitely. So basically I have had success here in Brazil, but i just admit its a bit harder, due to language barrier and location.
My experiences in Colombia have been quite different. It doesnt matter what part of Colombia you are in. If youre a foreigner youre going to have success as long as you have enough time. Sometimes you need to let them know you are living there though, and not just in for a weekend. If anything, smaller the city the better.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Yeah there are also xenophobic cultures but knowing the language opens lots of doors.
mattyanon Admin 1y ago
Yes
But your post answered this for yourself, so what's your question?
Impressive-Cricket-8 1y ago
Brazilian here. I don't even know where to begin, but I'll give it a shot. Also, I've never been to Colombia, so I can't comment on that. And usually I try to spellcheck what I write, but this is getting long and I'm feeling lazy; do feel free to point any mistakes, however - it's always good to learn.
Yes, there are quite a bit of german descent here - especially at the southern part of the country. There are, however, also dutch, french, italian, japanese and who knows how many others. So, don't think the germans were that big of a influence. Just one more out of many.
Brazil is a big country. As in 5th largest (and bigger than the US if it wasn't for Alaska), if I'm not mistaken. So your experience in a small part of the country is hardly enough to constitute something of a rule. Also, for clarification, here's a map. Green is north, orange is northeast, yellow is midwest, pink is southeast, and purple is south.
Going by what you said, your experience in Brazil was mainly in the south; had you come to the northeast, you'd probably find many more women acting interested. Before coming to live where I live now I asked an an acquaintance of mine of german descent (tall, blond, I think light colored eyes - we've met briefly around 15 years ago, and he was moving somewhere else) about the girls here. He said they were quite flirty and direct in showing interest. I got my hopes up, but nothing big ever happened. I eventually met a guy who had been his friend, and he explained to me that it was only around him that girls acted like that - because he was their type.
I've never lived there, but from what I've heard, women in the north of the country are even more direct if they like you. As in hitting on a married man in front of his wife direct.
Conversely, I'm guessing that women in the south are more "cool". I'll come back to that later.
Different regions (even within the same state) can differ quite a bit about the ethnic composition. In the north, you'll find a lot more influence of the natives. In Bahia, you'll find a lot of dark skinned people (I have no idea about this forum's rules for politically correct speech) - I believe that in the state capital, it's over 90% of the dominant ethnicity. In São Paulo and Ribeirão Preto (both cities of the state of São Paulo), you can find a lot of japanese descendants. I lived in Cuiabá (a city right in the middle of South America; you can find it in the largest yellow state in the map I linked) for a few years back while I was still in school, and I had friends of italian, polish, lebanese and other Middle Easten descent. The girls were something else - the ugly ones were ugly, but the pretty ones... Maybe I should consider going back there.
The southeast of Brazil is the richest part of the country. Most industries are there, and whenever you read anything about oil extration in Brazil, it's probably happening in Rio de Janeiro's coast. The midwest's money comes from plantations and cattle - and though it's not a poor region, it's also not as rich - and back when I lived there, not as developed. Northeast and north are the poor and poorer regions (and consistently voting for the left parties, go figure) - and the further away from the coast, the more evident it gets. I don't know much about the south, but they do have quite a bit of tourism.
A lot of people with money in Brazil go to the same southern cities on vacation, to the point where there are businesses catered to them - exclusive nightclubs and whatnot. So, depending on the city, being handsome or rich is no big deal. Not-so-funny story: a few years ago there was a false report of rape in the south that went somewhat big in the media, involving a
club hoenightclub ambassador and a guy with money. The thing is: she thought the guy was a bigger fish - an inheritor from the Globo media group (quite a big deal here - the biggest national TV channel among other things), but said inheritor was the other guy in the group. Nevertheless, she came up with an unbeliavable story, went to trial, and got nowhere (but the local feminists latched onto something taken out of context and blew up the whole ordeal). But I digress. The point I was trying to make was that these women are not easily impressed.As you mentioned, just being white is no big deal in Brazil. There are poor people that are white (although nobody in any minorities movement will agree to this), there are absurdly rich people that are black. There is some overlap in some places, but you cannot really make a general rule. Not only that, but Brazil is (once again, if I'm not mistaken) one of the most mixed countries in the world. So, the colour of your skin doesn't mean that much.
Again, I can't speak for other countries, but I'd say your average brazilian woman is your average western woman - most are not particularly bright or dumb, just going through life trying to fit in a group (and being subjected to it's pressures - so, whenever something stupid is en vogue, know that the women around will abide by it at least in some level). Same goes for the average man: just trying to eke out a living and maybe get married and have kids. Socializing is done mostly in bars, nightclubs, and the like - and while you can find a gem or two there, most are just average. Girls like to dance, guys learn enough dancing to try their luck, paying for the girl is common (although some will actually pay for the share, especially in the first dates), and so on.
These are just my own observations, obviously, but I hope I painted a more comprehensive picture of things here. While there is quite a lot of truth in your account, I felt like it didn't take into consideration several regional differences. Hell, I myself haven't known most of my country, so I probably have several blind spots. But still, if you're going for a quick lay, there is a reason why the northeast is somewhat known for sex tourism.
amazonri 1y ago
Yeah so I actually did write a more detailed comment about my locaiton, but deleted it because i didnt wanna get dox'd. But whatever. So yeah Im staying in Rio de Janeiro, in the touristic parts: Copacabana, Ipanema. I have met and gone out with many Brazilian friends who i met here. They told me Rio is not considered South Brazil but its basically influenced by the culture of it. That anything South of Salvador is basically "Southern" brazil as far as dating and social culture goes.
Ive also heard Rio is a bad choice because foreigners get a bad rap here. A lot of locals move to Copacabana to scam tourists. A lot of local women here believe foreigners are in and out in a week (mostly true) so theres no need in investing romance in them better yet hooking up. They also believe a lot are sex tourists.
And yeah it goes even deeper. Supposedly its a lot more competitive in Rio specifically. It being the "Miami" of Brazil. Theres a lot of Chad brazilians here and lots of Chad travelers. plus, Brazil is basically like the USA in the sense that you guys have lots of immigration here, so the gringo effect is not as strong. In Colombia, there are no immigration. Its quite literally 98% Colombians. The main immigrants is from Venezuela which culturally and physically are very close to Colombians.
I was told to go to Recife or Salvador for a more latin experience. Next time I will. Ill be back in a few months
Let me go over the positives: The brazilian men are super cool. Got a lot of numbers (of men to be friends with) and went out with them and what not. Constantly invited me to concerts and to smoke and to go out and dance. I even stayed close to a favela and frequently hung out in favela bars around some favela gangsters and they were cool with me.
The girls here check me out, but it doesnt seem very approachable and plus my portugese is shit. I hooked up with some cute girls here but they were technically from favelas. But they would take the metro subway to come to me. Texted me first often, told me they missed me (lol). Sent me nudes. I basically had a reliable two plate roster within 3 weeks. Colombian girls usually dont make the first move like that. They wanna be "conquered".
Generally I felt Brazil could be better long term but the language barrier is very powerful. Girls here seem hesitant to hook up with gringos that are passing thru, they are used to seeing other races unlike Colombia. So they dont feel theyre missing out on much. Guys are friendly and chill once you are in conversation. Brazil seems like USA to me.
Is Brazil being brainwashed to be woke like USA? Someone told me they were, and i wouldnt be surprised. Colombia is not really following the bad social trends of USA such as feminism, workeness, things like that.
Next time im coming back to Recife, Bahia, Salvador, Fortaleza, maybe Manaus. Staying for 6 months.
My main takeaway is this however: Brazilian girls are not as "easy" as the manosphere says they are. Its not why I came here but i would be lying if i said i didnt look forward to having a brazilian dime. Brazilian cariocas are used to seeing white people. Theyre adverse to hooking up with foreigners unless you are invested there long -term and have basic portugese. Theres ALOT of potential and doors to be opened up here but it seems locals want to see you invest in their culture a lot first. Brazil is a lot more european than the image they portray. Even the average brazilian man looks kind of european in frame and face. Generally Colombian women are prettier and more attainable to me, more open for short-term tourists. Im also part Latin and a lot more relatable to a Hispanic country than Brazil.
In 6 month span im confident i can find a high quality Brazilian girl, but that would be after i learn Samba, portugese, and find a brazilian social circle and no bars. In Colombia you can find a quality colombian girl within a month or two if you have some decent game and attempt to speak in their language and are interested.
Impressive-Cricket-8 1y ago
Both interesting choices. I assume you're not dumb enough to go into a bad neighbourhood since you've been doing fine in Rio, but just be aware.
Also, Rio is, indeed, quite saturated with rich people and gringos. Go away from the biggest cities in the country and you'll probably have more luck. Some portuguese will help you a lot too, since the average brazilian has little to no english fluency - though you'd probably have more luck with middle class and up. If you're here doing nothing but tourism, a part-time job teaching english could give you an in into those circles. If you have an OK spanish, it'll probably be enough in most cases - just be humble about it and show some willingless to learn a few words in portuguese.
I've never been to Manaus, and it's been a long time since I've been in Fortaleza, but I live quite near to Recife and I can say it's an OK city. Nothing really major or important there (just don't say that to the locals; they think Recife is the center of the world), but you can find some cute girls here or there. A bit too crowded (i.e. too much people and too little planning) for my taste, but you can always check the cities around it. A little under 2h north you can reach another (smaller) capital - João Pessoa -, and around three more hours north there's Natal. The coast of the three states (Pernambuco, Paraíba and Rio Grande do Norte) is riddled with beautiful beaches, if that's your thing. Go in the summer (here it'd be January/February) and you'll find plenty of girls in bikinis (not all of them are hot, so beware).
Between João Pessoa and Natal there's a beach - Pipa - that's quite the tourism hub. I personally don't get why - it's just beaches and restaurants -, but people seem to love it, and you can find quite a few gringos there too (so maybe the girls willing to have a summer romance with someone exotic are drawn towards the nightlife there).
Salvador is another huge city, so it's hard to comment on it as a whole. I find it pretty average besides it's tourist
trapsattractions, but I can't say I dislike it there. I also have no idea about its nightlife, so there's that.It kinda depends on where you're fishing. South/southeast? Yeah, unless you go for a smaller city, being a foreigner is no big deal. But I assume north/northeast will be quite a different experience for you. Though the people can look quite different - Fortaleza had some beautiful women, from what I recall, but Recife had mostly cute girls from my observation (again, haven't been in Fortaleza since many many years ago, and haven't really dated around in Recife).
If you're going to the northeast, forró will probably help more than samba. Learning some portuguese will surely help (no need to be too worried about verb conjugation at first - just have enough to form a sentence). As for social circle, either find a hobby or a job around people - as I mentioned, teaching some english in either a school or a language school. If nothing else works, learn a bit about the local football (or soccer, if you're from the US) team and go watch a match in the local bar. Most women don't really care about it, but you'll find more than one guy willing to talk to you about the current championship. And stay away from politics.
The US has always had some influence over us, and unfortunately this means that whatever shit is trending there is also trending here. Feminism, leftism, wokeism, you name it. Our current president was arrested, tried and condemned for a lot of corruption, but the supreme court, after confirming the original sentence more than once, decided to annul the decision over a technicality (already mentioned by the lawyers and dismissed by the same court more than once). Why? Because the former president (which was not a great or smart man, but was not in a rush towards the left) was too popular, and nobody else but the corrupt former president had enough popularity to face him. But let's not talk about that.
Either way, you have me interested in Colombia. I oftentimes see people mentioning going to southeast Asia to get a wife (or just get laid), but I always wondered if there wasn't a better (and closer/cheaper) option around. Even if Brazil is third world, the countries around us are deeper in shit, so many seek refuge (or outright asylum) here. Argentina's inflation is over 100% from what I've heard, and Venezuela is just sad. Chile used to be interesting, but I have no idea how it's faring since their last election.
Finally, if for any reason you decide you love the people here and want to find a more stable relationship, here's a couple of things you should know: (a) commonlaw marriage is a thing; and (b) total separation of assets in a commonlaw marriage (or just plain ol' marriage) is also a thing. If you're considering something more than a casual relationship, talk to a lawyer.
JamesSkepp Moderator 1y ago
You look more like a white guy in Colombia than in Brazil. Brazilians as a race have a lot of whites in them, pun intended. This means that you stand out more.
This is additionally enhanced by the fact that a "white" or a "foreign" guy in a 3rd world country is usually assumed to be wealthy simply b/c he comes from a wealthy country.
This effect can be seen in every part of the world.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
Visceral attraction is sometimes due to having different but complementary genetics. A good genetic fit.
There is also the "exotic" factor.
In your case, I believe it is due to socio economic status.
More money in Brazil, lots of foreigners = you are not that rare.
Colombia on the other hand might be different.
MidgetSpinner 1y ago
Dude, being white isn't the only benefit. The amount of white Romanian and Polish girls I've snagged with just my British accent alone defeated the racial concept. I don't know if you're America/Canadian/British or what, but there's more to it than just your skin colour.
Acela_nextel 1y ago
Surprising cause Brit twits are usually all hideous.
MidgetSpinner 1y ago
We're actually genetically superior to everyone.
Acela_nextel 1y ago
Nah pedigree whites are the Scandinavians. Most U.K. bitches look goofy as hell.
MidgetSpinner 1y ago
Who do you think our ancestors are? Where are you from then Mr. Perfect?