For example, in islamic cultures, if a man wants to marry a woman and wants to have other wives after her, he must inform her about this and her consent must be given to this. If her consent is not given, he cannot mary other women except his wife.
Households would be richer assuming that at least 2 or 3 active incomes are generated for that family, giving opportunities for a better life and better child raising conditions.
Is it because corporate reasons? If men were allowed to have multiple wives by the first's consent, this would mean longer childcare for multiple women and increase government spending for mothers, since women would be more prone to marry at least a successful male. Also, this would mean less women in corporate positions, which means that corps would not be able to pay shit incomes for both men and women, because of the overabundance of the work market.
Child rates would also go up, because there are more betas than alphas in the world, so women would also choose a financially stable man to have many kids with.
I'm not saying this from a tradcon perspective, but I was just wondering. Most married men cheat anyways because men need diversity, they can't fuck and live with the same woman for the rest of their lives, specially when the woman gets older and the man keeps himself in top shape.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
It's not forbidden. Lots of Chads have multiple women. You just can't get more than one marriage license and this has to do with visas, taxes, custody, etc. In Islam, back in Muhammad's time, they had a lot of wars and thus many widows and orphans. So the men would take them as wives and adopted/fostered children. It was believed, at that time, that most men couldn't support more than 4 wives so they capped it at that. Muhammad had 12 wives but they were necessary to unite tribes.
Almost all of the Abrahamic religions, including Islam, are very strict about marriage being between 1 man and 1 woman. If you take away things like abortion, birth control, antibiotics, women's liberation, etc you'll understand why.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
To keep betas in the plantation.
TRPDuryodhana 1y ago
It would destabalize the whole society. It's generally regarded that because of an abundance of young men without any women, polygamous societies become very unstable over time. (Note that this position is mostly asserted by the current English speaking academia, which views the world through a monotheistic (Christian, in particular) lens.
There's pleny of polgyamny going on in Arab countries at present, for example, and it was practised historically as well in Ancient India, China, Thailand, and other Asian countries. So I'm not sure about the violence part. But I agree that it might contribute to a lack of intimacy for bottom barrel, blue-pilled men.
Ibanez 1y ago
The thing is christians were polygamous until the spread of christianity to Europe, in the first hundred years of the religion, because it got its roots from judaism which was a polygamous religion and later, after christianity, came islam. So it has something to do with the spread and adoption in Europe.
However, I don't think that alphas would fully benefit from this. Yes, women will still sleep with them, but the majority of alphas would not have as good as a financial stable situation required for women to breed and keep the household intact, like the betas would have. It would have been the situation hundreds of years ago, when the chief warrior had many wives due to his strength, but today strength means nothing in terms of financial goals.
Just a thought
TRPDuryodhana 1y ago
I doubt it was because of their strength. From what I know, it was more because of their status, wealth, and power. Kings didn't fight their fights alone after all. Similarly, wealthy merchants didn't run profitable businesses on thier own. The only thing they could control was their own self-confidence and fearlessness to ruthlessly go after what they wanted.
I think an apt example of today would be Trump.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
You're confusing status with strength.
RedPill115 1y ago
Because it's atrociously bad for societal stability.
Let's say each Chad has 4 wives. That means 75% of men are single "incels". At some point these guys realize if they kill 1 Chad 4 of of them could each have 1 wife - what a bargain.
So sometimes they're powerful and simply brutally supress the other men. Put them into jobs that kill them, send them off to wars that kill them, make them slaves, etc. This puts a big murderous target on their back. They find that being rich and powerful means constantly having to sleep with one wye open and worry someone will try to murder them anywhere they go. An unpleasant lifestyle.
But let's say they pull this off and don't care. They have 4 wives, 10 wives, whatever. You're fucking them right - that's the reason for having all these wives? And you know what fucking women produces - Babies.
So now you have 20 kids. And you know what those kids realize? There's only 1 slot for the powerful leader, their siblings are competition, and you being alive means that they can't have that slot until you die. And the mothers will play hardcore in this game as their instincts is to keep their child in power and get rid of the other children competitors.
There's more - nepotism in the power structure that leads to incompetence and collapse, etc.
benzino This Guy Follows Advice 1y ago
It's not like the alphas will marry 100% of the women in society. They will choose among the prettiest and fight among themselves for these women, while leaving the uglier ones for the general masses.
So while it does bring some instability, it's not like there will be much chaos as you said. That system has worked before, where lower status males resigned to their fate and marry the girl next door out of convenience
RedPill115 1y ago
The next logical step is the powerful will want to have 1 official wife, while unofficially fucking a bunch of other women - with no responsibility or official connection to the kids that are produced.
Which leads to the system you have now.
However, while the men are unhappy raising someone elses kids, it's the women who really get pissed because sleeping a powerful man is supposed to be her way to gain influence over him. Also the wives of powerful men hardly want to be discarded for a younger model.
This leading feminism - which attempts to sexually sterilize every area where men and women meet and get together, wlthe older women seek to cut his balls off so he can't leave, the younger women want to sleep with him but then own him if they get pregnant.
Ibanez 1y ago
So you basically described a prologue of today's system :))
Yet today's countries that have polygyny as optional for men, are not tribal or 3rd world because of this and have more solid societies in which people do not shit in the streets in broad daylight or build homeless villages like some casual street in the USA. There are other major BIG factors at play, such as geopolitics, geographical positions and history etc.
I'd even say that some of them are rising powers due to their wealth/resource assets or demographic advantage over western societies.
No-Stress-Cat 1y ago
To keep men from getting divorce raped into oblivion. The government only wants to divorce rape us a little bit.
fskfsk 1y ago
With polygamy, there are going to be lots of men without wives. They're going to be unsatisfied with their lot in life, and they will be looking for rebellions, crime, anything that will change things.
With monogamy, almost every man has a wife. By giving the medium-status and low-status men wives and children, they have an incentive to contribute to a stable society. Married men also have an incentive to work harder and pay more in taxes.
The USA has basically deteriorated to "soft polygamy". You have some high-status men spinning multiple plates, while medium-status and low-status men are incels or fighting for the leftover scraps. Once a woman has been the plate of a high-status man, she's not going to "settle" for an average man, except possibly in a "beta bucks" scenario. This also leads to "whereareallthegoodmen" once a woman is too old to be the plate of a high-status man anymore.