I'm happy to have found this site, however, I found it due to unfortunate circumstances. I'm new to the red pill, but I am on a quest to do better in my life and never look back. I am trying to take as much responsibility as I can for the things that are actually in my control from this day forward. I come here seeking some initial advice as for how to go forward given my current situation. If you recommend any resources to get started on this journey, I'd love to look into them as well.
I suspect my wife (legitamately, not just saying it) has undiagnosed BPD. For years she'd act extremely impulsive and would constantly shift moods or behaviors, no matter what time of the month it was. Anyways, just recently she left me once I got a new job and was going to work. But she didn't say she dumped me. She kept me around, as she stayed with her mom, making me think she was going to come back. I understand now that she was monkeybranching. Within a week, I found out that she cheated on me with somebody (not sure who, probably her ex). Since, she secretly flew out of state to meet a guy off of Facebook and cheated on me with him too. Then she came back and started cheating on me with two other guys, made a ton of social media accounts and started posting her body provocatively. She rewrote the history of our relationship, claimed I was emotionally and verbally abusive, called me a narcissist, and then continued on. Normally I'd block this woman and just move on with my life given the abuse she put me through, but the reason why I haven't is because we share a child together.
I filed for divorce after 2 months of being strung along. Since she has acted a little better in terms of coparenting. At first she didn't let me see our son at all. But then I actually filed and got some rights that are legally enforceable. The process is still ongoing. She calls for "him" occassionally, but I suspect she does so because she knows I can hear her. Sometimes she calls him talking nicely in general, then other times calls to rant or complain about me. I eventually sent her a text saying she's a vile human being and to stop reaching out to me unless it's about our son. Luckily, she ghosted me ever since.
I'm just really distraught and am looking for advice on how to proceed forward with my life. I was very in love with her and suffered from oneitis, as I did everything for her and developed an entire identity around being a husband and a dad. It also doesn't help that I am isolated in this city with no friends/family. She cheated on me out of nowhere and I saw no warning signs. We are both 31, if it matters. She showed no remorse nor has she admitted anything. She now lives with her mother and just meets up with people. I don't understand what the point of destroying our family was but it's whatever at this point.
I am heading to the gym soon and am trying to read books on the red pill and this topic. I just want to be a good dad to my son and never allow this type of turmoil to happen again in my life. Any advice on how to move forward would be great. I hate that I still miss her and secretly want a person who caused me so much harm and left me at the lowest point of my life back (after my dad passed). Thanks.

No-Stress-Cat 2 3y ago
Welcome to the Red Pill, young brother. The journey into your new life has just begun. Buckle up. It's going to be a FUN ride!
turkish_delight 3y ago
To get over your ex you need to get her out of the head - you're addicted to neurochemicals she was giving you. This is normal for men this is why the best strategy developen by normal men is fucking more women not only to always have options but also not to get addicted to one woman - this is real.
Meditation /fucking other girls.
If you want to fuck other girls absolutely first thing you need to read is
https://pdfslide.net/documents/the-forbidden-truth-part-2-the-forbidden-truth-part-2-when-the-forbidden.html
Brad P. The. Forbidden Truth. Part 2
it's v short and puts the frame on what to do next to save time.
You can also read that for more on top of other stuff proposed
https://theredquest.wordpress.com/2022/05/15/brad-ps-dating-education-memoir-diary-of-a-pickup-artist-pua/
STart now you will need at least a year to cover bases.
liftheavystuff 3y ago
You are not alone brother.
I went through the same about 3 years ago. It was awful. I felt worthless. Luckily i had a great support system of friends and family to get me though. Ive posted about it before on this forum, feel free to search.
Your priority now is your child. Settle for nothing less than 50% custody. Depending on what state you are in and how much the two of you make, you can fight back against any alimony or child support claims. Let all communication aside from simple messages about logistics of the child come through the attorneys.
Consider mediation. It may save you a lot of money and time and stress.
Seek therapy.
Avoid alcohol and other substances.
I second the advice to not get entangled with any other women for a few months. I made this mistake and it almost cost me another marriage and inevitable divorce.
Hit the gym. Ive been doing so religiously for 2 years and the results are great already.
Save save save. Get your money up. Money + looks + status = the hoes will come. Once the dust settles, the hoes will come. Once you start dating again, use a condom every single time.
Interestingly enough , this wasn't even the experience that red pilled me. It wasnt till I met a damaged thot who i thought was a sweet girl, that I had my awakening so to speak. After that, I finally learned to really pull back, stop being so "nice", and focus on myself. It has resulted in a long term relationship with a girl who I think is great, but if things changed, I wouldn't hesitate to show her the door, since my frame of reference is refocused on me.
whytehorse2021 3y ago
Well you said it yourself: you got oneitis and her frame took over. So it wasn't really out of nowhere. I'd suggest you first read The Manipulated Male by Esther Vilar. You can find it free online and it's really more like a pamphlet than a book. When you finish that, repeat after me: I hope she(ex-wife) gets in a car crash and dies choking on her own blood. Then go through the rational male series of books. The good news is you're about to reach your peak SMV and having a kid shows preselection.
liftheavystuff 3y ago
Omg so much this. I thought it was going to be so hard dating as a divorced father...very much the oppostie. Pre-selection is litty.
whytehorse2021 3y ago
Man, to be red pilled, single and hitting peak SMV...
mattyanon Admin 3y ago
Ok, I'll try.
I hope you realise that this is no way for a man to live his life. Your identity being locked up in someone else is a death sentence for your happiness and mental wellbeing.
Will come back to this.
Distressingly this is 100% normal. "I never saw it coming" is what men say.... women plan it like this very, very carefully.
She's female. She prioritises her hormones over being with you. You are safe and comfortable, and this is BORING to her little lizard brain. I know that royally fucking sucks to hear, but it's sadly true.
Good
Great, you should be.
You want her back for only one reason: you don't have anyone else great in your life.
Give up on any sort of relationship with her: she's toxic and deranged and that will NEVER CHANGE. Keep on good terms, keep being a great father to your son, but otherwise cut her out of your life (as you have done).
You need a few things going forwards:
FRIENDS
Go out and meet people. You made the mistake of putting all your eggs in one (awful) basket. Don't do that again. Do things you enjoy, meet people as you do it. It takes time but it works. You'll have to do most of the work with most of the people you meet because you are the one with few friends right now. That will change later if you're a great guy who has a mission and a purpose. if you don't have those things, fix that shit immediately.
LOOKS
Maximise the fuck out of your looks. From now on you are going to have relationships based on looks, passion, intrigue, mystery and being fun. None of that beta shit.... loyalty, being nice, hoping she's nice, promising commitment. You tried that, and it got you here. Hit the gym, lose the bodyfat, get a sharp haircut, wear awesome clothes, look fucking amazing and act like you own the world.
WOMEN
Primarily you want women for sex and good times. Commitment has fucked you over, so don't do that again. Have affairs, have hot sex, see 5 fuckbuddies at a time. Live it up, have fun, and don't commit to exclusivity with any woman ever again. They don't respect it and they fuck you over eventually, so don't give them chance to. Women who want to fuck you won't need a relationship, and women who need a relationship eventually will stop fucking you.
LudgerKresnik 3y ago
This is the best advice. Mattyanon never fail to help our fellow RP.
mattyanon Admin 3y ago
I do what I can
coolsocks00 1 3y ago
Hey brother. Sorry to hear about your struggles. I am a single father around your age with shared custody of a boy so i hear you. But you're gonna come out of this a better man.
Resources:
Feel free to DM.
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Durek_The_Bald 3y ago
Good. Just make sure you actually do it, and not just say it.
Good, but erase the "trying" from your mind. That's just you already preparing excuses. There's only "doing" or "not doing". When people say "I'm trying to do X", they usually mean "I'm not doing X", whilst simultaneously trying to feel good about it since they're "trying". "Trying" is hamster-speak. Read up on "the rationalisation hamster", and keep that motherfucker on a tight leash.
All irrelevant now.
Be civil and maintain a "professional" relationship to her as a co-parent, but beyond what directly affects the child, her problems, issues or whatever are no longer of your concern. Your focus is better spent on yourself, and on new prospective women for a rotation. Don't try to be "seen" by her, it's not going to happen, and that's normal. You have friends for that, male friends.
Yeah, don't do that. No point. It's not like you're going to explain shit to her, or throw around accusations, and then she's suddenly going be like: "Ah, NOW I get it!". All you achieve is to make the situation less manageable for you.
That's fine. Boundaries are important. But enforce them without the emotional outbursts and blame game. Yeah, things suck, you want her to know things suck, you want her to see her part in it. But guess what, she couldn't give less of a fuck. It's not her fault, she's literally incapable of it. That's just the way it is, learn to live with it, and let it go.
Read up on: "The Light Switch Effect". Basically, once a woman is out, she's out. They don't give a fuck at that point. And she checked out a long time ago, before you split, before she even cheated on you.
Don't engage in anything that doesn't have to do with your child. She wants to rewrite the relationship? Fine, let her. She wants to call you a narcissist? Fine, let her. It is of no consequence to you unless you take the bait and engage.
Great. That's a fantastic goal to have. So do everything in your power to maximize the time you'll have with your child. Father is the most important caregiver once the kid is off the boob, so yeah, prioritize that.
Listen, I know it's easy to sit here and type this out as if it's all so simple. It's not, I know, we all know. When everything's fucked, that's when it's hard to do the things that are good for you, and get you out of the rut. Just know you'll feel noticeably better in just a matter of weeks if you spend that time lifting (self-improvement), forwarding your projects in life (meaning, self-improvement), spending time with your kid (meaning), maintaining a social circle (mental health, social proof), and gaming new prospective women (building abundance, anti-oneitis).
As for reading material, I suggest starting with "No More Mr Nice Guy" and "When I say no I feel guilty". Also, read up on game (i.e. "London Day Game") so you can start getting back up on the horse, trying some stuff out. Keep it casual, and don't go all in for the first one to suck your dick, and you'll be fine. Nothing gets you over a girl quicker than a couple of new ones.
Also, leave the meta-stuff on men and women for now (i.e. "The Rational Male" or "The Manipulated Man"). It's rage inducing stuff, and right now you have enough reasons to be angry. Leave the meta stuff for later, and focus on simple, actionable material. Same with this space, limit your time here. Good luck. It's a rough ride right now, but it'll pass. Probably quicker than you think, at least if you play your cards right.
For YouTube content, I suggest Rian Stone and his "sidebar series". It's easily digestible, non-toxic, touch grass sort of actionable stuff (as opposed to a lot of the utter shite that's out there in the sphere).
LudgerKresnik 3y ago
Another awesome advice.
delesseyM 3y ago
Sorry for hearing that, to be honest i can't tell you what to do other than keeping track and tickets of everything you buy for your kid. That way she won't be able to argue that you're an irresponsible father. You'll have to be very careful with those legal things as these kind of bitches always want to sue you, especially if you get a better job or something. If you get new friends don't really talk about this or about her. Just keep it casual, especially when you talk to other woman you're interested. I don't have more data to give advice like if you bought a house or a car. I'm not American, but get a good lawyer.
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liftheavystuff 3y ago
Get the fuck out of here you fucking crouton.
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liftheavystuff 3y ago
Oh I agree with you. But our brother here already made the mistake (I did too) and needs support, not to feel more like hot garbage than he already does.
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Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 3y ago
That's really helpful advice to someone who has already done it there, Captain Hindsight
MrSupreme 3y ago
I can tell you to check out some of Chateau Heartiste (Roissy) to help out with your inner game and understanding the red pill. Also read "No more Mr nice guy", and get yourself to the gym and clean up your diet,focus on yourself and realize you're still young and there'll be plenty of pussy up the road. Get used to being alone,being single and having yourself and your son as your mental point of origin. have a good one mate
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 3y ago
You've received a lot of great replies already.
I strongly second all the recommendations to read the following: No More Mr. NiceGuy, When I Say No I Feel Guilty, and The Rational Male for books.
I also strongly second reading anything from Roissy/Heartiste that you can find. He was my biggest Red Pill influence. Dalrock is a close second, but he's more big-picture stuff.
As far as some reading material to help you get past any one-itis you might still have:
There is no One by Rollo Tomassi, and
Rooting through garbage also by Rollo Tomassi.
Most of all, I strongly recommend that you head to the Married Red Pill subreddit and read their guide on divorce. You need to be ready.
Best of luck, and welcome.
Lone_Ranger 3 3y ago
Just going to say, there is a lot of good advice already in this answer. Going to give special mention to mattyanon and DurekTheBald.
I had a wife monkeybranch me and I would characterise it as a lesson in growing up (was 40 at the time).
From now on, your son is your 1 and only. It's you and your son. You are a good father and you will continue to be.
"I'm sorry to hear that you seem so distressed. You should consider speaking to a qualified therapist. For now, I am focused 100% on the welfare of our son. With this in mind, I would like to steer this conversation back to the practicalities of co-parenting." Use this over and over. Do not get sucked into any discussions about the past, your relationship, what she did, you did, what you said etc. This is very important.
Find a support group for divorced dads.
Reach out to your family and friends and let them know that you will need their support. I would tell your immediate family that they need to block her effective immediately - that you have court case impending and they must not speak or communicate with her, for any reason. Tell them this is non-negotiable - its you or her. they must simply say, "I'm not talking to you" and hang up. Be prepared to cut off family members who violate this condition of yours. I guarantee she will try reaching out to your family members to try and get information that she believes can be used against you.
The only piece of advice I have seen in this thread that I would go against is this idea that you should be going out looking for women for some smash and dash. I really think this is a bad idea. Focus on yourself, taking care of yourself etc. Any entanglements with other women is going to mean you taking your eye off the ball.
Getting divorced is a labour intensive process. The best way to do this is to treat it like a second job. Which is another good reason for point 5 above - you won't have time to be chasing tail in the next half year.
Keep your eye on the prize. All the research shows that women initiate divorce and that at first, men go through a sort of slump. They get a bit down. But...scroll forward a couple of years and the men are WAY better off. They are riding high. And the women are in a slump, that will go on for the rest of their lives.
At the moment, she is 31 and she will be able to go out and get some thirsty dude to use her as a useless whore, and she is probably getting lots of validation from that. She reckons she is really something, a hot thing that men really desire. What she (and other stupid sluts) don't realise is that the dudes are just looking for an easy lay. They don't want any kind of relationship with someone like her. So... she will slowly start to realise that no man wants her for anything other than a pump and dump. Don't be jealous. Don't let this hurt you. Her life is going to be an empty sad lonely journey from now on, that results in her dying alone with a couple of cats, whining about how there aren't any good men any more.