I'm a late bloomer, didn't lose virginity until I was 25. I had an ugly duckling thing going and my confidence is just now catching up. Point is, I've noticed that women only want me for relationships which makes sense. I'm a physician, clean cut, no tattoos, don't party or do drugs. So I'm stable and I'm prob the guy they want once they're in their 30's and are ready to settle down but I'm not the guy they have fun with while they're young and in their prime. Thing is I don't want a relationship, I want to make up for my college years now that I have the looks and confidence but most girls want more than just hookups. I know they go for the bad boys and that just ain't me. I also don't want to lead them on by pretending I want a relationship when I just want to have sex. How does a straight edge guy get girls to want to just hookup?
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Durek_The_Bald 4y ago
Just avoid the topic completely at first. It's easier if you pick up girls IRL, 'cause then you can dodge the whole "interview" process before getting them to bed. Harder to do that with OLD, where they'll typically ask you what you're looking for and so on, before even seeing you.
After already having given them the D once, it's a different ballpark. You can state it bluntly if she brings it up, and she's still likely to keep fucking you for a while (you're already a notch by then, so what the heck). If she keeps pushing (very likely) you can keep stating it, or you can "DARE", until she eventually breaks (or you cave).
https://www.forums.red/p/TheRedPill/4349/talking_with_women_always_dare_never_deer
coolsocks00 1 4y ago
Read the sidebar and the recommended books, e.g. No More Mr. Nice Guy, and The Rational Male.
The opposing terms Alpha and Beta are often used to label different male behaviors and traits. Alpha being behaviour and traits that are arousing to women, and Beta being provider traits and comforting behaviour. Being a straight edge guy has relatively little to do with this. What matters is that you unleash your sexuality and work to become more masculine and more interesting as a man.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 4y ago
When I date, either on OLD or IRL. I am honest, I tell them sure I'd love to get into a LTR. What I don't tell them is 95% of the women out there are not LTR material.
Is that being dishonest? Is it more than pretending to be a good girl?
If they come right out and (have the talk), If their slut defense is so strong for you, then that's a real indicator that she's not into you. Next.
Sexual relations are one of the factors going into whether someone is LTR material or not. Along with behaviour/personality which takes in many cases, a lot of time to really see.
So, sure, I'm looking for a LTR, but I'm not rushing it and will have some fun along with way. Why not, women sure as hell are.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 4y ago
No more dishonest when women reject men by saying "I'm just not ready to date/too busy right now" when they mean "I'm not ready to date/too busy for YOU right now"
You're including about as much omission as they do, they set the bar for that with their woman-speak ways of doling out excuses and rejections
Intrepid_Place53900 1 4y ago
agreed. 'd argue in these scenario's ,the women are far more deceiving than men. the women are actually lying, not the men.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 4y ago
Yeah, in your case at least you are giving them intimacy etc. In their case theya re just straight up lying and depriving the guy of everything else
Vermillion-Rx Admin 4y ago
I stopped using phrases such as "get to know you" when I was asking out girls. Step one is to eliminate relationship perceptions before you even try to get them out
Secondly, where and how you meet women is a factor. If you meet women at bars/tinder etc then expect that they want something more casual. If you're meeting girls in more reputable ways they might be more LTR oriented
Also, at 30, you're going to be running into more girls hitting their epiphany phase and trying to settle down, especially if you have a successful stable job such as yourself
If you hook up with a girl, dodge all topics that could lead to relationship conversation. Delay it as much as possible and just use words like "hang out" when you see them again etc.
whytehorse2021 4y ago
Oh dude you can totally play the beta provider card. You're going to have hoes beating down your door. 30-somethings that are done with their hoe phase and need a high value man that doesn't know his worth. Just play dumb and dump them right when they demand you forsake all other women for them. They'll have the sexual experience of thousands of cocks so you can rest assured your little soldier will be taken care of.