College Student, 19, M, AA, 5'8.
I'm going to college dorms soon for the first time. I went to an older friend of mine's house, he was a senior when I was a freshman in highschool, meaning he is 4 years older than me, as well as his friends. Since they were talking about women, I decided to ask for advice, considering I don't have too much male guidance in my life. They were telling me to get women in college, I have to "put forth some effort, because she's talking to like 20 other dudes. Also mysteriousness is overrated, only very attractive dudes are allowed to do that. Also It's a waste of your time if you really wanna have a rotation of women in college".
I'm genuinely confused. I thought you pull back your attention, since college girls get so much. And putting in effort makes you look like you have nothing else better to do?
Apparently this guy gets a lot of women, he already graduated. I have seen it in front of my eyes, so I guess this advice works for him. Honestly I haven't had much experience with women so I ask older men for advice all the time, and I'm really just confused. Some tell me to pull back, some tell me to show effort. I'm not that good looking of a guy, not in the best shape. I'm an average guy. I just have all this redpill shit thrown at me and I don't know what to do with it.
Advice greatly appreciated !
EvoRationalist 1y ago
Yeah your stats arent great. But men don't make excuses. However, you have strengths, one being that you are inquisitive and willing to ask & learn. Which is a hella strength. RP is about winning; so don't fall into the bro culture ways of doing things, because chad game is just one way to skin a cat. You are going to have to find some strength and mask your weaknesses; Caesar wore a wreath. (good method is how did your dad do it? what was his strength? And go from there.) Also, you are going to have to find your market, the man selling apples is not in the same area as the man selling sneakers - unless you're Walmart and the metaphor really starts making sense.
Regarding your top question of push/pull tension in social dynamics, there are a variety of methods:
Mystery Man Conundrum: Too much psychological distance & dominance in an initial interaction can be perceived as unfriendly or rejecting. However, excessive affiliative behavior and warmth- such as smiling, mutual gazing, or too much disclosure - can come across as needy or neurotic.
Solution One: Preempt: “Whoa there clingy.”; Second, persona of a man hard to please in general but enthusiastic about her. (“I’m picky"; "don't normally go for girls like you"; “first good morning message of my life.”); A third solution: add a dab of disagreeableness in the pull; e.g: disagree, then agree, or best, discuss mutual dislikes i.e. sarcasm & irony.
The best solution is the one that works FOR YOU, congruent to your mannerisms, tone, and personality. Take time to hone.
mattyanon Admin 1y ago
what is "AA" ?
Right. They are saying you gotta put some effort in, they're usually right.
Well, this is the art of dealing with women.
If you pull back your attention, she will just get it elsewhere.
So you need to hook her before pulling back slightly, and that will take some effort. But do be as physically attractive as you can.
Yeah, you gotta find what works for YOU.
Also: what men say and what men do are rarely the same thing.
There are different strategies and most men will more or less lie to make themselves look good. "Yeah man, you gotta just put in zero effort. Women want what they can't have". This is designed to make the speaker look like women just swoon over his zero effort approach.
both, at different times.
GET IN SHAPE. Seriously. Get in shape.
TRP is, sadly, pretty bad at actionable advice.
Lift weights, get bodyfat down, there is no excuse not to be in great physical shape. 99% of men can do it, and it really really matters and really helps.
Beyond that you're into chatting to, and seducing women, and there are a tonne of manosphere articles and videos about that.
JJGuerra 1y ago
Thanks for the response. AA refers to "African-American. I have been lifting. Making good progress. Getting a hormonal panel done so I can optimize my levels. Thank you for clearing this up. I really appreciate it.
tierteen 1y ago
If girl has not invested in Luna Coin it doesn't really matter for her it's value is now 0. She has to invest, for your push to work. Actually technique should be called pull-push to follow order of action.
JJGuerra 1y ago
Thanks. I appreciate the comment.
redhawkes 2 1y ago
Fix that first. You don't have the SMV to put TRP into action, or you might get mediocre result at best.
You're putting the cart before the horse. If the bitch is not attracted to you in first place, no amount of withdrawal, aloof/indifference attitude helps. You need to be valuable.
Sidebar, all of it. You don't have the basis, so you throw shit around and see what sticks. Once you have the base, you build on that and it'll start to click.
JJGuerra 1y ago
I will. Thank you good sir. Been lifting for over a year now, got my test levels up, abs showing, arms bigger. On my bulk rn.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Beware advice from the beautiful men. It's usually shit.
financehardo420 1y ago
lift weights so you look above average. it’s pretty easy given that overwhelming majority of dudes are tbh lowkey highkey fat and fugly.
dress well; match your outfits n shit. gives off the vibe that you pull bitches; which bitches love.
much like everyone else said: give effort at first; reel em in. bang once or twice then start to pull back. take longer to reply, be shorter in your responses. don’t chit chat just make plans to meet up. doesn’t always have to be straight to sex. don’t ever take her to boujee places; keep it simple. in the words of future: “chicken wings n fries we don’t go on dates.”