Edit: Age: both over 18, location: western Europe.
How do I get the dynamic back to LTR chasing me. Fast forward, the beginning (3 months) were perfect, I was gaming her all the time, disqualifying, teasing, spiking her emotions and withdrawing my attention, making her do all the work for the relationship like calling, texting, setting up meets and so on.
After 3 months she starts arguing with me and I lose frame though I do not comply. When she suggests to break up I completely fuck up and lose my frame totally and get really emotional.
4 Months later, we still had a good time. She is at times affectionate and tries to prove herself, but I can feel that the lost respect. She is still affectionate and so on, but I face constantly shittests and her efforts got low.
Suddenly also she said she does not want to neglect her friendships, what she did in the past to have more time with me. We would be hanging out and like after 3 hours or so she leaves to meet friends of her.
I am working on getting my old abundance mindset back, even though I cannot really fuck any other girls while being with her.
How can I make her chase again? I need some really solid advice.
Hanscheezburger 3y ago
there's your problem. If you absolutely can't do that then ask a hot female friend to pretend to flirt with you and makes sure your LTR see it
Amazonforest 3y ago
Okay so I did this once and she started crying yelling would be in a bad mood etc... I didn't know how to handle it . Advice for next time ??? I just comforted her
truthdontbehidden 3y ago
strategy seems pretty low value and high risk.
Hanscheezburger 3y ago
it is, that's why you need abundance even in LTR
truthdontbehidden 3y ago
This is very true, even if it is not applicable in my situation.
coolsocks00 1 3y ago
First of all you need to be willing to walk away. Otherwise you cant rebuild your frame. Because when you've lost frame you either surrender to hers or you have to play hardball and take the consequences of her potentially not falling in line.
You use dread game to rebuild interest in LTRs: https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/2lpafb/the_12_step_plan_of_dread_book_excerpt_from_my/
Read this list and work to establish dread levels 1 through 8 gradually.
It is essential that you do this work for yourself, and not as a social contract with the purpose of "making her like you again". Rebuild your weak self, and she will either get on board or you will find someone better.
truthdontbehidden 3y ago
to be honest never heard of dread game. But from I skimmed over this looks similar to my natural game and way of life for self improvement. I will definitely read the article this night. Thank you for your sharing this resource.
mattyanon Admin 3y ago
It's OVER.
It's easier to create this with a new girl than rekindle lost passion with an existing girl.
This is how they are wired. They do everything they can to put you in a bad position, then lose respect for you when they succeed.
You could try dread game, but at this point you're just doing disaster management.
truthdontbehidden 3y ago
This is a very true statement, whenever I lost a girl, the next was ultimately better even in only 1 or 2 weeks of knowing her. Still I will pursue my current LTR for now because it is easier to keep a girl while being on the path to improve yourself and build your business.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3y ago
Wtf man. This won't improve yourself at all. You will slide into decline and the gradually increasing despair from this is going to end up hurting your business.
Report back to us later how this plan to keep pursuing a women who has lost nearly all of her interest and respect for you has worked out after she branch swings, cheats, or dumps you
truthdontbehidden 3y ago
In the past I was plating 3 girls at the same time what time wise was extremely stressful. Rather keep only 1 girl to minimize time with girls and have more time for myself and my projects.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3y ago
Yeah, and that one girl is going to demoralize the fuck out of you. If you want to ignore the advice of men who have been in your shoes at one or multiple times in our lives, and stay on a sinking ship instead of going out like a Chad, that's your prerogative
truthdontbehidden 3y ago
I trust my gut, no worries.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3y ago
I wish you luck
whytehorse2021 3y ago
Dread. Hit the gym and pursue other women.
truthdontbehidden 3y ago
already lifting and my physique is already 1% for my age group
Amazonforest 3y ago
Show us the 1%
redhawkes 2 3y ago
Matty is on the point. Once she played the 'breakup' card, it's over.
It's like a broken vase, you can try and glue it, but it'll never be the same. Demote to plate, get bitches or become desperate cuck and live in her frame.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3y ago
Once the ultimatum was issued and you failed to respond adequately to it your fate was sealed. It was also pretty much sealed that she even gave it
When she threatened to break up you, you should have aloofly told her she can walk away if she we wants to and then ended the conversation right there
Or far better yet, called her bluff by saying "okay" without the slightest hint of emotion and then ending it yourself on the spot.
You are in a position now where you are digging through the trash to get your attraction from her back and she can see you dumpster diving for it.
It's over. You should end it with little to no visible remorse about it while you still can to at least portray some of that value you lost. Not to make her chase you, but so that you can at least regain some semblance of your frame back as a man
moorekom 3y ago
If you work for a company and if there is even a chance that the company can fire you, you should not limit yourself by trying to be loyal to that company. You should be actively improving yourself and putting out your resume, not to switch jobs whimsically but to keep your options open at all times.
Similarly, even if you don't want to cheat (and I agree, you should not), you should be flirting with other girls. She is not your wife. You are not married. You are not a lifetime employee. You are not even a full time employee. You're contacting. There is no loyalty in contracting.
You want her to chase you again? Women chase men who are far above them. At the same time, they only chase men they think they can get. Create dread by concentrating on yourself, but don't create too much dread that she thinks she is losing you.
truthdontbehidden 3y ago
Reasonable approach