I've been on the red pill side of the internet for 6 years. Currently early 20s. Been lifting, have a mission, got my first girlfriend from cold approach (several years ago at this point), et cetera.
Unfortunately I'm just not physically attractive enough to get laid with the quality of girls that I want. And I don't mean that in the incel way -- I get laid like once every month or so with tinder from sheer luck (with non hideous girls), which wouldn't happen if I looked like a gargoyle. But it's important to realize your limitations. I often go to the bar with my physically attractive player friends and it's night and day. Girls will walk by and overtly flirt, grab their asses and smile etc. Meanwhile when I hit on girls I hold their attention for 10-15 seconds before my bad vibe throws them off. The obvious answer is that I have shit game which is probably true but I think it's deeper than that.
I think the problem is that I'm wired differently. I've had enough casual sex to know that it's meaningless and doesn't make me happy. So I just don't try. What satisfies me is having a hot feminine girl that I have an emotional connection with. I couldn't care less about fucking another slut named Crystal or Chantel.
Unfortunately in the modern world with the decline of religion and rise of social media these girls (relationship material ones) are so rare that the competition is insane. Feminism has given women way too much power and the top tier girls can have whoever they want meaning they will always go for the bigger fish. It's discouraging. Yeah I could wait until my SMV peaks at 35. Yeah I could move to Jew York City and cold approach for 5 hours a day. But honestly what's the point. If all there is to life is "rising and grinding" and occasionally fucking mediocre pussy while waiting for the embrace of death I may as well kill myself right now.
To bring this back to the title I am in my last year of college. I have concrete plans to radically improve my life after graduation but that's in 4 months. Every day I feel like shit because I'm wired to desire something that is fundamentally unattainable, and my friends get it for free and take it for granted. What are some objective, real world actions that I can take to overcome this mental barrier and improve my quality of life?

unplugged69 4y ago
Once a month isn't bad for your age range, don't let that discourage you. It does sound like you need to improve your game and I suspect a lot of that is your attitude. You need to enter every interaction with a woman with very low expectations, be outcome independent.
I agree with your point that most women are pretty worthless, and if you do not enjoy sex with these women feel free to ignore them and reject them as it will only increase your social status. Just don't be afraid to talk to them or approach them and screen them to see if they are the kind of girl you're interested in.
If you want someone who is more compatible, go enjoy hobbies you like and meet women through that. Go to the library and book stores and see what books women are reading, if you find one that enjoys something you also enjoy you might have some common ground and she might interest you more. After that you need to use the same redpill strategy which is to invest very little, have a date preferably with 3 venues AND NO dinner or movie. Break the touch barrier, push and pull, polarize the conversation, make her qualify herself, hit her with compliance tests, squash shit tests. You know the fucking drill by now I hope.
I get that you don't want to wait until your 30s for your peak SVM, but take it from a guy who's gone through what you've gone through. It's not like a switch and you're suddenly better with women at that age. As time passes you become more experienced, more IDGAF and more outcome independent and your game will improve significantly, the key is not to give up and become black pilled or some blue pilled cuck. Just keep improving yourself and do it for you not to attract women, they will come sooner or later, you won't have to wait that long.
superiorspirit 3y ago
what is the 3 venues thing?
guerilla_3 4y ago
try to run different game than you do now, try different scenarios. Dick, brutal, direct, geek, EMO, dress accordingly so there's some congruence.
Don't believe too much in religious girls. Sometimes it is cover up for bigger problems and /or slutiness [my experience]. Theres simply too much going on for them to stay well behaving. I was just wit one that was listening to preaching online, having picture of saint [was +30yo]. She was insisting she does not wear slutty stuff [or overly feminine]. Unluckily for her I just ended relationship with another praying, secret branch swinger and had good insight. Also I did internet research on her and it took about 10 min to find out she liked fairly skipmy stuff some time before.
If you want any security from religion move to Muslim country after building assets. I doubt there is girls left without some sort of cock carousel in past. They all go to school.
Before you move on about your thoughts about marriage/kids read divorce subreddit, read. This advice should be [maybe is ] in sidebar, essential. BUt sidebar will not show you the real stories and their numbers. Even if youre not sure about divorces then that is a good read https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/s9dkpr/learning_to_run_through_hell/
And do not believe in 'if youre alpha enough you will make it'. This is just putting in front of you the challenge to make you beta again - in a different way.
This challenge is not for you to undertake, you will work in someone else's frame by accepting challenge.
Remember, betas are smart people but you can't be specialist in everything. They have never learnt about relationship otherwise - only reason they are betas at the beginning. Some of them change because they are smart and shown the truth.
unplugged69 4y ago
+1 I think I saw a stat once and it was like 30% of women lose their virginity at 14, often with much older males. They're all sluts, honestly if you have an intellectual pursuit find a guy to discuss that with. Women are for fucking and entertainment, men are for higher pursuits like philosophy, etc.
Agree on the marriage part, there are no traditional women. They use it as a tactic these days to satisfy their hypergamy. Stats show right wing dudes are more fit, better in bed and make more money so it makes sense some women disguise themselves to snatch such a man. Ultimately marriage is a failed institution and the cuckservative meme exists for a reason. OP you seem redpilled on weimar and globohomo, you should definitely understand why marriage is fucked by our society and (((Juidicial system))) lol.
whytehorse2021 4y ago
Go watch Kevin Samuels. That's how you deal with them. Knock the pedestal out from under them. You're at a pretty low point in your SMV curve and they're at their peak. You're basically a gamble at this point and they want to wait at the finish line for a ready-made winner.
The obvious solution is to use ridicule-reframe when they shit test you. Another practical thing to do is learn to game them. Then you could also do orthodontics and plastic surgery if you want. These are objective, real world actions.
mattyanon Admin 4y ago
Bad vibe won't help matters. If YOU think it's bad, she certainly will.
Great, but you need to find girls and approach them in a way that this will happen.
Rare yes...... but the competition is not worse than for other girls. Reason is: the girls who want that are about as rare as the guys who want that.
It doesn't peak automatically at 35. It peaks at 35 when guys have spent 20 years MAKING It peak.
Girls that age are playing social circle game. You're probably on the edge of that social circle, so you're halfway there, ,but they're most interested in the guy their friends are interested in, the jocks, etc. It's almost incestuous and brutally difficult if you don't have conventional looks or lead the football team.
Girls are also kinda your equals at that point, and girls are not interested in equal. When you're a bit older than them, can do shit they can't, are more confident, more popular, and earn 10x more than boys her age:: then you can stand out in other ways than looks. Social dominance, funny, talk well, physique, etc. You can build that in the next few years and be more attractive than guys your age, therefore get more girls the age you are now. But socially it's harder because you're still not on the football team.
Honestly yes, that's super fucking tough.
Meanwhile: build yourself, your career, your LIFE. Work on girls, they'll get easier and better and hotter over time.
Lift like a mofo.
Work on self acceptance, world acceptance, stoicism, meditation.
Recognise that you are being a little hypocritical: college girls are the absolute most attractive girls that there are. They aren't top 10%, they are top 2% over the age range 18-40. You want the very best for yourself, but you don't have the very best to offer them.
This sucks for you at age 20, but it's fucking awesome when you're an attractive self made man at 40 while she's saying "why the fuck don't you date women of my age any more???"
Join Toastmasters or whatever to improve your speaking.
Get involved in something/anything outside of college!
Meet girls in real life. They aren't all on Tinder, get out there and meet the ones who are as interested in a genuine connection as you are.
superiorspirit 3y ago
This is very nice but I have one objection. Social Dominance.
This is thrown around a lot because it truly matters, but this is one is very complex and situational to achieve correctly. I can work on my weightlifting, my career, my game, my acceptance of the world and even my popularity and all of those will benefit me greatly.
However. Being socially dominant in a circle where the college girls also are, is really a matter of having a niche. For example I have a friend that is 32 and graduated from film school. In our city, girls are very artsy so he is like a "master", he is well connected with all the art places and can remain connected with the 20 year olds even through that.
For anybody else, it would not work the same way... Even if I am popular, I will be popular for circles of my age, the connection to the 20 year olds will vanish eventually. Unless you have a relevant circumstance like the guy mentioned. So how does one achieve that?
mattyanon Admin 3y ago
if you want 20 yr olds, you need to find a way in.... a way to meet them somewhat on your terms....
this film guy has found one way, but there are others. don't think there's any simple formula though.
guerilla_3 4y ago
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Diabs 4y ago
Bro live for yourself I know it's harder when you're early 20's. I now do the things I do to improve myself because it makes ME feel good. I used to lift when I was younger for a month and if the girls didn't notice I'd give up.
I know it feels like you may as well kill yourself now but when you get into your 30's you stop giving a fuck so much about the things you can't control and focus more on the shit you can. It just takes time, a bit of loss and pain to work all that out.
Just keep at it bro you will be fine. Set yourself up now for a good life regardless of what the sluts are doing.
Scorpion69_ 4y ago
Its simple.
If u feel ugly, u will act ugly.
Acting ugly turns people off