Fellas what is everyone’s experience of when they do best with girls, being shredded with 6 pack abs, don’t look big in a shirt or losing the abs but packing on some muscle mass? There is no denying that as a natural lifter it is next to impossible to have the best of both worlds unfortunately.
Personally, I’ve never been ‘swollen’ have always suck around shredded.
hannulv 2y ago
Generally shredded is better, unless you're too thin. Abs on a bean poll are like big tits on a fat chick. Who the fuck cares? I would try to determine your natural max and get to at least 70-80% of your max weight and maintain it around 10% bf.
Your sumo body will always be stronger than your 10% bf body. So there is always a balance, unless you're cruising on Tren.
STAYShredded 2y ago
Nice bro, I’m currently @78% of my max @13% bf, if you were me… would you shred down to around 8-10% then gaintain (tiny surplus) or start gaintaining now?
hannulv 2y ago
I think it depends on what you find the most motivating. Is is more motivating to DL 500 lbs or take instas of your V. Maintaining 90%-100% of your max is as untenable as maintaining 6%-7% bf.
Howdoiverify 2y ago
Just go with the bf% that you feel well and healthy at. If you still are into it cut to 10% and maingain or just go on a lean bulk, nothing too crazy, because most of the time maingaining is slow. Still maintaining under 10% bf trough the whole year is taxing and exhausting for most of the people. If you use PEDs it's ok. If I was in your position I would lean bulk to 15%, throw in some abs, I'm in surplus so why not train abs anyway to keep them pumped and then slowly cut, but nothing too crazy on the deficit again. That's for my physique, don't know how's the thing with posting pics in here but physique advices often come better when you post pic.
STAYShredded 2y ago
Lol how do people usually post photos, do they link it to something? Can’t seem to work out how to do it on here, bc I would otherwise
NeoSpartan 2y ago
Lean > bulk 100%
Scorpion69_ 2y ago
Lean is better than bulky. Ur muscles are thight af. Do wtf u want tho
RedPill115 2y ago
Guys sleeping with the most attractive women in scenes I've been part of are always either skinny or slim-shredded.
Bulky guys are better than fat and overweight, sure, but the girls they got with were noteably less attractive and feminine.
STAYShredded 2y ago
Ngl I’ve noticed particularly girls around 18-21 prefer the lean dudes… and who the fuck dosnt want to be around girls that age lol
Hanscheezburger 2y ago
Shredded, absolutely. Dont neglect grooming and style though. No point in being shredded if you wear baggy clothes all the time
pfeilmacher 2y ago
If your body is all you can offer a woman, then who knows.
I oscillate between 14.5% and 16.5% and never have had any trouble getting laid. Maybe it's because I'm tall and well off financially. Who knows, who cares?
STAYShredded 2y ago
Bc unlike you I’m always looking to improve xx
pfeilmacher 2y ago
Whatever you say, validation seeking boy.
SeasonedRP 2y ago
Girls generally prefer a masculine look to a pretty look. The scrawny shredded pretty boy look is more likely to appeal to gay men. American football players and athletes with similar builds tend to do well with women, and they aren't scrawny. And having defined abs is hardly next to impossible for natural lifters.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
The science tells us that there is a perfect shoulder-to-hip ratio that women are attracted to. That would support more of the shredded body type with big shoulders. Seriously, the more I spend time working on my shoulders and fasting to get my waist down, the more female attention I get.
STAYShredded 2y ago
Yea nice I use to dabble in prolonged fasting quite a bit… longest I did was 4 days I believe. How long do u usually fast bro? Unfortunately I don’t really think I can continue fasting bc of the mental intensity of my job atm… also bro I’m pretty sure it’s should to waist ratio?
whytehorse2021 2y ago
I do intermittent fasting. I skip breakfast and lunch on Monday and Friday. I throw in cheat days about once every 1 or 2 weeks where I just pig out if I can't maintain weight. It really helps with the sanity part and after a few weeks you don't even know you're in a caloric deficit. The main function though is to give the intestines a break so they become less inflamed and shrink, thus reducing waist size. I don't think you can get your waist smaller than your hips as a male but you can get a bigger waist than hips so maybe it's better to use the waist for the calculation.
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
This has worked for me, and from everything that I've seen, being slim with abs is the best. Muscles are great, but slim comes first.
SgtBuchannon99 2y ago
I find it so weird i pull way more girls with a higher bodyfat, around 12-15% but thats with A LOT of muscle after strong bulk.
I have more of the linebacker bodytype at this bodyfat, and it fits me well. I have come to understand i am an exception, most guys lose SMV at this bodyfat even though its still healthy theyre better off at 10% for example.