I mean, it depends on the "deal" for me, tbh. This can very much be mutually beneficial. Quite some men like the idea of their wife staying at home, doing the household and raising kids and I would argue that also quite a lot of women like the idea of being provided for by a man while being a mother. But divorce law, hypergamy and especially social developments build the success of such a deal on very shaky fundaments nowadays.

can we move money to swiss bank accounts? and that money no court can have access to?

i love how some women think marriage automatically makes them the family CPA with her duty & purpose being handling the money.

and i lol at guys who hand over their paycheck and ask for an allowance... that shit is pitiful!

note:. 7 out of 10 marriages end bc of $$$ arguments & issues... and women initiate divorce about 80% of the time. surprised?

meanwhile to her, her money is hers and your money is ours... bc trust me, mama told her to keep a private getaway fund.

wise up, fellas.

Find a woman that makes more than you?

Who will take care of your kids and cook for you when both of you are working?

It is a trade off. You provide her resources and she takes care of home and kids.

I actually like this. When i come home, i need an energetic partner who is happy to see me. If your partner is working in office, you cannot expect this.

More over, working environment aka corporates make a women masculine.

You don't need consensus from anyone. A bad idea is a bad idea. Don't buy into ideas you don't like. Simple.

It'd be fine if it was mutually beneficial and you couldn't get divorce raped. There's obvious practicality in having someone at home looking after children, cooking, cleaning etc. Was also easier when it was economically viable for there to be only one bread winner at each household.

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You're essentially her 'carer'.

There’s only 3 rules. Never get married, never share finances or let her know how much you make, and never move in together.

Typically, a man would financially sustain a woman so that she can look after the home, the children, and other responsibilities. I don’t see an issue with this dynamic.

Equal rights, equal finances. If she doesn’t like that maybe you can work out a non-equal arrangement where you get to beat her, she only speaks when spoken to, etc.

Only way I would pay for a woman is if she’s the mother of my child and if I’m rich. Rich enough to where I wouldn’t care about paying for her even if the relationship went sideways.

You don't give access to finances to anyone, except your ltr. You don't have an ltr just for pussy. You get into a ltr because as a couple you are stronger and both can get farther. She supports you and, for example, makes your favorite foods, so you don't go out to eat as much, this saving money and being healthier. She encourages you to learn and grow and accomplish more than you could by yourself. And you do the same for her, though in a different way, because after all men and women are psychologically different. Plus if you think your genetics are worth passing on a good partner plus yourself will give your children a better chance than you alone could.

If it's just for the pussy, then prostitution has a price on that and it isn't access to your wallet.

They get both now. And if you complain, you’re weak.

I find shared finances in marriages abhorrent. The man usually works his ass off for a higher income, and some woman comes along and has direct access to this income for no reason whatsoever besides having a pussy?

This is the exact case, yes.

I guess that made sense back when women couldn't study/work, but nowadays it's absurd.

Women could always study and work. Don't let the feminists make you believe otherwise.

Yes, the whole idea of marriage is ridiculous. 50 years ago it made partial sense: housework was more difficult without modern conveniences, and raising 5 children took a lot of time and effort.

In modern times it is cultural insanity.

No.

Youre not the only one. In fact i see legal marriage in 2021 as the official certificate of the blue pilled beta male.

Well, back when women were feminine, the exchange was money for someone who can raise a family. All human relationships are transactional in one way or another. Your parents raised you so that when they are old and fragile, you'll support them. Same thing with marriage. Unfortunately, nowadays women are extremely entitled, they can't cook, clean, or raise children. So now men are expected to do everything. There are some women out there who still have these old-fashioned values, so you should only stick to those women. Any women who values her career over her family is a no go for me. Watch this (start at 2:45): https://youtu.be/oi6i2ACRN7A

Here we go, blackpill is taking over

As long as i have my meals cooked & my balls drained & she knows when to stfu i’m good

It's fucking illusion. Cause both genders work, housing increased so much, one salary goes for mortgage payment .

I don't play that game. Live in European countryside, is better life quality for kids away from big city obsession with materialism. We spent weekends hiking and fixing house. Girls can play, need help wife, son is with me. I let him be a man. But gotta work with me.

Live manimalism, without TV, i read to kids a lot. Wife mostly work 35 hours weekly, but has 4 months off. I do 50 hours with 6 weeks off yearly. Wife goes to her homeland every summer and I have time for serious hiking, climbing with my old man, before god takes him

As well find a time to game girls in summer, even am not that interested.

We managed to save every month and invest. Have one common portfolio, each kiddo has own and I do have much larger porfolio from days before marriage. Wife doesn't know, neither can reach, cause assets are written on my father and uncle name. And she can not reach kids portfolio. Once kids are 30, can withdraw.

I mean you need to build up life the right way.

Then after you become ”controlling” and she cheats or you cheat after her pussy dries up she will take half of all the stuff you worked your ass of for. I'm talking your entire 20s of effort. I'm talking your retirement plan. Your kids will now be bastards and likely hate you as she brainwashes them. Being zeroed out is a real thing.

SAHM only makes sense now if you have a trust or you don’t marry her in a place with no common law.

anyone who bets their life’s work on a prenup is a fool.

This is how it was a hundred years ago. Men go to work and women stay home to raise the kids and clean the house.

This changed drastically during WW2 when the men were overseas so the women had to join the work force and keep the economy running.

Since then, it's progressed steadily where there are more woman in colleges now than men.

Men still populate the CEO and top positions, but a reason for this is because women tend to take time off for maternity leave.

But there's absolutely zero obligation for you to share half your assets, so just don't be dumb and you're good.

If she's willing to cook for me and my kids, and make sure I come home to a beautiful house everyday with a smiling wife, then it makes sense. But under no circumstances do you get the law involved in this transaction.

no, youre sane

I assure you, nobody enters marriage or a relationship expecting to do that. People enter marriage expecting to be partnered with a fully independent, contributing, competent adult. This is a totally reasonable expectation in any normative relationship.

Where did you get the idea that women are financially dependent?

I wouldn't mind of she was my wife. She would be more conservative, raising our kids and I would reward that behavior.

For sure not spoil her though.

So, I just want to mention that the premise of you supporting a woman - is just in Americvnt - Gynocentrism The country.

Evanghelism and a century of wealth really fucked you guys over as providing a free ticket to women in conservative circles is the standard. Let's not even mention your absurd alymony laws.

In reality - 2 income households is the standard especially if you live in the city. At least until you have a child. And when you want kids you are working for the kid and she is providing child-rearing because nannies are fucking expensive and do a worse job than one of the parents.

Speaking as a european dude that won't touch "christian woman" because he knows all about that "old world" misandry, and wants none of that - make it clear you aren't dating, you aren't her partner you aren't here FOR HER support. You want to fuck, you want to laught, you want to spend time with her. That's why you are there. It's not to HELP her.

She might press and say - she needs a partner, a man to support her, raise her kids and shit. LET HER. Tell her to her face after you bust - "go on that date now, and don't be too hard on the dude, he seems like a nice guy."

It's not a game, it's not bluffing - genuinely understand her dual nature and that she has needs that can not be satified by the same man. Someone needs to pay the bills until she learns to behave like an adult. But for that she needs to want to be an adult, which is not your choice.

To be honest, I think at this point I understand it from a biological perspective. Out with birth control, Women spend so much of their life actually physically incapable of doing much else other than nursing children I.e periods to pregnancy to nursing ad infinitum to menopause.

Obviously now in society things are different, but from a natural perspective I can understand the provider man and stay at home woman dynamic.

Not saying I’m cool with it, or that’ll I’ll do it (again) just that it makes sense

Marry a woman who has a job that is almost equal to or greater than yours and problem solved.

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I guess that made sense back when women couldn't study/work

No it didn't. It was absurd even back then. Neotraditionalism is the resurrection of stupidity. Desperation for female affection disguised as masculine affluence. Bullshit.

The one positive thing of the new era is the chance to spin plates all along into your 50s. That's they way to go. (And there are several options when you get to 50 too).

You're right and it's basic sidebar / rational male knowledge. Continue your research.

What if she's earning more than you do?

Keep in mind - as I posted yesterday that 50% of marriages end in divorce, I'm sure that number will go up.. and 80% of divorces are initiated by women.