Hello- I’m in my second year of college and for my anthropology course, I’m studying The Red Pill as a virtual community. So, I was wondering if you can help me by answering some questions. I’ve made background research about the community and scrolled through both TRP and TRPW, but I’m looking for personal opinions and different perspectives. I'm just looking to understand the community from people within the community.
Here are some questions that will help me get a better glance at the community:
1- What defines the Red Pill community? What does it mean to you and what impact does it have on your personal life?
2- At a first glance, it seems like the Red Pill is a movement that targets men. How do you perceive women's involvement in the community?
3- One of the rules in the women's red pill Subreddit is "no feminism", do you think the feminist movement is opposed to Red Pill ideas? If so, how and what’s your own perception of the feminist movement? Why isn’t this a rule in the main Subreddit?
4- Why do you think the Red Pill Subreddit advises women to remain anonymous but the Women in the Red Pill welcomes men openly?
5- What are your thoughts on movements like #MeToo or #AllMen? Do you think they oppose Red Pill's ideas and if so, how?
6- How is masculinity tied to Red Pill's ideas?
I want to disclose that I'm not part of any male/female communities. I'm interested to know what are your opinions and your own experiences, and it will be very helpful for my project. Thank you in advance.
Tim_Heidegger 2 weeks ago
I think “red pill” has become a label, like an online tag, that basically lets people of a certain belief system find each other online, even after successive bans on that content on this or that platform. The internet is playing whack-a-mole against “red-pillers” but they keep popping up. I think because once you’re inside the belief system, it’s compelling enough- the sense of truth- that it’s always worth finding again. On that note, its main effect on my personal life is just letting me read content online that doesn’t feel like corporate-sponsored virtue signaling nonsense. Outside of the internet I almost never reference “red pill” in my personal life- doing so would be social suicide.
I don’t think it “targets” anyone- it’s just out there for people to find. I think men preferentially gravitate to it, for a multitude of bio-psycho-social reasons
I think the worldviews are essentially at odds. I’m not sure if the latest wave (is it still “4th”?) of feminism believes there are zero differences between the sexes still, but I think a significant premise of TRP philosophy is that there are generally innate biological differences between men and women- which show up when you look at the general male population vs the general female population. In terms of population means. As for the difference in the rules between the subreddits, I don’t know, could be a lot of things.
See above. Probably subreddits have a fair amount of random mutation in the evolution of their rules. Like others are saying, I don’t know how often, if at all, the gender of the poster matters to red pill types. It’s the ideas that matter
I think red pillers would say people like Weinstein, Epstein, and Bill Cosby - people obviously using their power to rape, drug, etc can go directly to jail. I think for a while I worried about a false equivalency between those types of cases and somewhat fuzzier, “well it was a boss making an unwanted advance” cases- but still, those women are certainly allowed to file their claims. I only think the red pill would staunchly oppose the idea that all women (or all people) should be automatically believed immediately, without due process- because people do lie. People lie all the time- even women, even about sexual assault. And accepting those kinds of uncomfortable truths are part of taking the red pill. Get out of the social matrix.
ccvbnm3 3 weeks ago
What defines the redpill community is exactly what defined the redpill in the matrix movie. The ideas from the redpill community in modern time may seem like their all revolved around women, but the real core of the community is truth. Exposing the lies within this world.
The redpill is a community revolved around truth. This can help answer your question for #4, but truth does not have a gender. "Womens" involvement is not acknowledged because there's no physical gender blocks hindering participation. Anyone can say their a man online, so nobody cares, and should not care. This is why acknowledging "genders" is not received well in this community.
I think focusing on any movement is hindering the the core values of the redpill "community". In this case, many people have concluded that most opposition is controlled opposition. To make things easier to understand, redpill has no defined gender. Online, you have no gender and truth does not need any gender to be realized or shared. I would say, the reason feminism has no rules in the main subreddit is because there's no need for many rules. Freedom of speech is the carrier of truth so why oppress that? There's was never a need to create another "redpill" for women because it was never a gender barrier for participation in the first place. Lastly, redpill is not limited to the subreddit and reddit is not the founding grounds of the idea of "redpill".
Advice is only advice from a single entity. Like stated many times, there's no gender required for participating in redpill ideas. Personally, I would guess the reason its advised is because there's no benefit of either parties to reveal gender. Both genders can equally benefit anonymously from reading the accumulated truths of people who have taken time to contribute. Also, the redpill community of reddit is not the founding ground of the idea of redpill. Like said, redpill is truth, and there are many websites and areas that share truth, or "redpill".
My personal thoughts are suspicion. Who knows what the real intentions of those movements are? Without a question you cannot get an answer; thus, no truth. I think following any movement blindly may be opposing to the core principle of redpill for that very reason.
i_like_soup 3 weeks ago
Thank you for your answer. I'm wondering what do you define as the "truth" the redpill shares. What is that truth?
Tim_Heidegger 2 weeks ago
It’s an awareness that the current social matrix regulates what is “acceptable” vs “unacceptable” thinking, not based on facts or evidence, but on myriad social factors, collectively termed “political correctness.”
I’d say major starting points of red pill awareness include: 1) natural selection - its pc to only believe in natural selection insofar as it disproves Christianity, but not to extrapolate into psychology at all. I’d say many people’s awakening into red pill thinking started with some form of evolutionary psychology- which, once you start applying, works incredibly well as an explanatory framework. And beyond mere explanatory power- the application of it to ones personal life can yield observable results. E.g. the realization that women want a strong male, not a needy emotional friend- and acting in accordance. Once you observe results in your own life, it becomes much harder to ignore. The blue pill philosophies do not give this to people.
In that vein-
2) Nietzschean philosophy - I don’t know how many people would trace it directly to Nietzsche, but I think he’s the most recent progenitor of a simple philosophy: that strength, beauty, and fitness are GOOD. Weakness is bad. He writes rather convincingly about the long con of the “priestly class” (which I would now say is the media- they are modern versions of priests in a secular society) convincing people that weakness is good and strength is bad. Jesus’ sermon on the mount is a perfect example of this- blessed are the meek, etc. Nietzsche called this a “transvaluation of values” meaning an inversion of the obvious, natural order of values. Nietzsche and modern TRP I think mostly agree that weakness is not good, victimhood is not virtuous in itself, and that there is no shame (far from it!) in striving for beauty and power
no_name_user_me 3 weeks ago
Have you read the red pill handbook?
i_like_soup 3 weeks ago
I'm fairly new to the community, so I haven't. Where can I get it? Also, as of right now, I'm interested in seeing different perspectives from a personal point of view, I want to know male opinions.
no_name_user_me 3 weeks ago
http://redpillhandbook.com/
It is better if you look through it or even read it.
Fawk_Face 3 weeks ago
Women aren't angels. They are human beings. Also human beings are imperfect.
women involvement in the community means the girls are either lesbians trying to use TRP strats, want to know what men want, or see how to not be played by the strats the men are using against them.
got lazy, don't feel like answering other questions.
i_like_soup 3 weeks ago
fair enough, thanks for replying tho