We are both 24. We lived together for 1 year and have been fucking 4-5 times a week. She had no orbiters I knew of, good friends from work (professional office environment) and no IG or selfies. Like literally none.
I earn about 73k a year, her about 45k. Nothing at all ever made me question her behavior when I was not around.
Both lift, both cook together and eat well, she was great with money and always treated me good and spoiled me randomly especially on birthdays. We often spent time apart through the week to be on our own, which was great.
Up until 2 days ago everything, like everything was great. And to be honest I felt genuine care and you'd call it love (in flickering areas) towards her. When I was sick with an auto immune disease in hospital for 6 days she visited every day and stayed with me as I was getting my shit fucked up.
Solid 8/10 and didn't smoke or drink and rarely shit tested me.
I don't know.
What the fuck this is why I can't trust or open up to people. I don't get it.
She told me with an absolute STRAIGHT FACE when I got home from work 2 days ago "I met someone from work and I am leaving you, I will be out of here in 3 days time I am sorry" and then hugged me, which I accepted because I was in shock and then pulled away and said to her "You can sleep on the sofa. Also delete my number and begin packing your stuff up, I'll help to speed things up".
And she said in a calm tone "Ok cool".
Ok cool. 4 years for nothing cool thanks.
ZERO WARNING FROM ANY OF HER ACTIONS.
Depressed as fuck and can't explain it. Not gonna lie I am drinking pretty heavily too. People are fucking weird.
EDIT - thanks for the replies and advice, still sorting this mess out internally but whatever, life goes on and I got money to make, new people to fuck and car parts to save for. Still feels weird but whatever man I guess it's just me and my hand tonight lmao. I also just made a Tinder Gold acc (dw no shirtless selfies) that is new for me. ty all.
mismm 4 years ago
She did this out of the blue to you, but this process started some time ago in her head, that's how it always works. You probably just didn't notice the change in her behavior.
Look into Briffault's law. https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/readers-submissions/2009/11/the-rosetta-stone-of-womens-behavior/
Women are not investments and cannot be treated as such. Unless you invest in something highly volatile, it won't just disappear in a moments notice.
It's also very likely whatever she has with this guy has been going on for a while now and she's already fucked him.
_-resonance-_ 4 years ago
People, read the link. ????????
tefllifestyle 4 years ago
The article is a must read
LordLoveRocket00 4 years ago
Yea glad i read it. Its sad this day and age, that if your in your 30's and dont want marriage or kids your looked at like a freak from work colleagues etc. Since discovering trp a few years ago it just reinforced the fact that i never wanted to marry.
Daft brainwashed people will declare that marriage is an institution and is sacred. BULLSHIT.
IF i was ever to get married i think you should marry way further down the path than after only a few years. Getting married early makes zero sense to me,if at all.
Anyways rant over. Thanks for the article op
Take care yea.
mrpthrowa 4 years ago
Yup, be thankful you had it this easy.
Yesterday, after a couple of drinks I had a really good chat with this cute chick from my evening class. She was 31.
She's been married to her husband for 12 years, accidental pregnancy when she was 19 turned marriage, she now has two kids with him. They have a house together, and a mortgage, a flat that they rent. She kept complaining about how he doesn't turn her on any more, the spark is gone, he has no drive and she nags him for everthing, she wants to do something with her life before she's too old (i.e. ride the carousel). She prioritised her family for so long bla blablabla.
She was sitting in my lap and we were friends in one of my other classmates flat. Told me all of this, then she texted him a heart emoji telling him to put the kids to sleep and she'll be late.
She told me she has already decided she will divorce, and she is scheming. "of course" she will keep the kids. "Of course" will keep the house. Later she blew me (she woudn't go piv because she thought that was "cheating" .. LOL). She has not had any sex since June last year, and I laughed at her telling her that June sex must have sucked so bad, to which she gave a sad nod.
The man has no idea what's about to hit him. I was about to feel sorry for him then I thought... dude deserves the wake up call.
I laugh really when I come to these threads about relatively minor quibbles with girls "she was mean to me", "she disrespects me", "what does this text mean????" blablabl, all from a lack of frame. Dude there is some real dark shit out there.... Be thankful.. set your mission and go. The rest doesnt matter and shouldn't phase you.
LordLoveRocket00 4 years ago
I hear ya. When i was out whoring in my 20's most of the woman i met out had boyfriends sitting at home while they complained to me how bored they were and regretted settling down early. I knew exactly what i was to them, just a cock to relive their boredom for a night then back to their fella. Shitty thing to do on my part you could argue, but i was single, i wasn't cheating on anyone. And lets face it if it wasn't me she was bucking that night it would be someone else anyway. But i did always feel a bit sorry for the fella sitting at home wondering when his missus was back.
EnemyAsmodeus 4 years ago
People always gotta remember "it's your turn" not an investment or a property purchase.
If you want a love-of-your-life, you have to be at the top of every chart at all times. Even rock stars and handsome famous actors get dumped.
You may think it's unfair, but then again I don't see any of you dating that ugly fat chick either.
JosephBosa 4 years ago
Also want to chime in that theres no way it was completely 'out of the blue'.
Some people are better than reading people than others, some guys are more in tune with girls than others. Im assuming OP hasnt been as observant as he thinks he has been, is what im saying.
LordLoveRocket00 4 years ago
Yea when my last ltr went to shit i could tell from her body language and wee things she was telling me not adding up. This made me start withdrawing when i realised what was happening and i put up a wall a good month or more before we broke up and i got out clean. Thank fuck because she would of definitely fucked my shit up if i didn't let her do the breaking up part. I just let her have her ego, said how sorry i was it didn't work out. Then noped the fuck outta there.
JosephBosa 4 years ago
Its definitely a body language thing, at the deepest level. I can pick up on it quickly personally. But some people, have varying levels of "reading" others in terms of body language AKA social skills. Sounds like you finessed her at the end, like chess.
StrymZ 4 years ago
How does one earn 73k a year? ????
RedHoodhandles 4 years ago
There are many great comments in this thread already so the only thing that I can contribute is this:
Never forget that pain. Never forget that anger. Safe it. Deep inside you. This is your inner fire for your furnace. Use it to hammer yourself into the man that you want to be.
There will be nice and soft times again. You will get lazy again. And you will get complacent again. But it's monday 6 o'clock in the morning, it's cold outside and your ankles hurt from yesterdays workout. And you remember. And you'll go lift.
Auvergnat 4 years ago
You can’t explain it? TRP is basically explaining this 24/7.
So once again: men and women are different, their sexual strategies are different. Women are wired to feel desire for the highest SMV guy in the room, no matter your history with her, no matter what you did for her, no matter how she was feeling yesterday.
You know it in theory but you haven’t integrated it, or you forgot it.
What happened is that this relationship bliss made you lower your guard and revert to the lazy blue pill thinking of type “hey she’s great and the relationship is doing good, there is no reason on earth for her to break up”. But hypergamy doesn’t care about reasons at all! She met a better guy than you, the tingles got generated, she switched. Female sexual strategy 101
321cmecum 4 years ago
I agree with everything. Suppose it is quite different when it happens to you, not just reading of it on someone else's post and posting some comment like "spin more LTR's" ect.
I almost feel this strange sense of peace. As if I couldn't be mad at her. She just told me and fucked off. No fight or having me find her blowing someone. Weird. Like a business transaction.
thrwy75479 4 years ago
As mentioned by others, she broke up with you ages ago. Telling you was simply a formality.
In a way, you should probably be grateful that she at least told you, instead of ghosting you and leaving you wondering.
friendandadvisor 4 years ago
For me, I had those feelings...but, I also had heartbreak sneak in every now and then, loss of confidence, etc...
Just be strong if she comes crawling back if he kicks her ass to the curb. Be sure to ghost, and stay ghosted.
CasaDeFranco 4 years ago
Men are to women how jobs are to men, you're just filling her need until a better offer comes around.
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I just had a breakup a few weeks ago, I know it's rough but it's the nature of the beast. This will harden you.
Auvergnat 4 years ago
Oh I can definitely understands the shock at first. But if after it passes, you find yourself at peace because you know why and how it would happen, then it means you’ve got it. Congrats on your renews freedom man, new pussies await you.
ReformSociety 4 years ago
I hope you can heal the major trust issues and coldness towards women that your ex bestowed upon you.
the-dan-man 4 years ago
Yeah, it will feel weird and a bit bizarre now, like a dream. I find that hard too, when a week or two after a breakup, they seem to have no memory of the good times at all, like you immediately just became a random dude. That shit must be blissful for them. They seem to have an emotional switch. Lucky bitches. O
Overtime it will probably hurt more and more for you. At least that is my experience from a LTR ending. It was fine at first, but then overtime the memories come back now and then and hit you in the stomach like a motherfucker. So start making goals now, start using that anger to get your life back in a good place. And don't hole yourself up, if you have good friends, now is the time to call them up.
The main problem from your post i got was that you were together for 4 years, what did you want to happen? And you were living together, and both made good money. What did you expect to happen? If you guys were not gonna marry up or have kids, it was inevitable that one of you finds someone else eventually. And she being an 8/10 and making more money than you, it was her.
Also it wont be long til her tingles dry up for this guy at work. When his mystery and the novelty of him wears off. So be prepared for her contacting you in future, possibly, and tell her to go fuck herself.
TurboEdition 4 years ago
Exactly this
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friendandadvisor 4 years ago
She did. He just didn't know it.
Thotasaurus_Rex 4 years ago
She's had feelings for this guy for a while and she wouldn't just leave you for another guy unless they had already slept together. This wont necessarily make it better, but she's been cheating on your without your knowledge. If the roles where reverse she could get revenge on you in one of many ways, as a men the best you can do is walk away cleanly.
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The guy is unfortunately higher SMV than you (at least to her). You can either work to increase your SMV or just go for lower SMV girls who can't do better.
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It absolutely sucks, but this is why the advice is to not let yourself fall into this trap, women branch swing which is exactly what she did.
MrAgamemnon 4 years ago
Absolutely.
DeGENZerate 4 years ago
This isn't solvable with SMV because SMV is contextual. This is a problem specific to Western countries where women have incentives to act this way. It is literally encouraged
beginner_ 4 years ago
He doesn't even need to be higher SMV but if you live together she sees everything. The dread goes down to 0 and she sees all the "low SMV" aspects of you like how your shit stinks. The new guys however is still mysterious and not known and boring.
LeonardoDiDraperBond 4 years ago
Thats why you dont let her move in.
the13thmonk 4 years ago
^
1Pink1Stink 4 years ago
Yeah he just said that
friendandadvisor 4 years ago
Not really.
Acerhand 4 years ago
And this is why i never LTR women who are my smv or higher. Always 1-2 points lower. Sad but this is the reality, and the way to the best relationship as a male. You also have to game them Forever.
Cant stomach it? Thats why its a red pill
jbpostv 4 years ago
Totally agree with you dude. 2 points lower is a sweet spot because even if they’re average looking as long as their in decent shape you get a committed girlfriend and all it’s perks without all the abundance driven drama and constant work of a girl your SMV who could blow out your best self for a guy 2 points higher than you. 2 points lower give better sex, act more feminine, play less games and are less bitchy. Why? They’re afraid to lose you so they behave and please. Just a way better time
Acerhand 4 years ago
Yup. Play the smv game to your advantage for LTR. I find you still have to game them a lot(smv lowers with lack of dread, and lack of alpha behaviour) and you also have to create that emotional rollercoaster, but you have a lot more slack.
And they treat you better. Hypergammy is not about being the best out there. Good luck.. you can just be the best you can be, and you only nees to be the highest smv man she thinks she can land. She wont risk losing you.
Ofcourse if you go completely beta you will close that smv gap.
jbpostv 4 years ago
I studied PUA which integrates alot of RP knowledge in the second half of high school so I've only had 1 truly BP relationship. But its most important to normalize a lifestyle and practices that acts in a RP on your LTR while on autopilot. Last LTR I had was always whining about me not spending enough time with her because I was on my grind. Case in point low neediness upper hand. Also from developing porn tastes sexgodmethod/dominance was always my default in bed; never felt comfortable doing other than that. I didn't use dread in my last LTR which would have helped but I hadn't taken TRP and wouldn't have even been receptive to the idea of subtly making my girlfriend afraid I'd leave her and have options below the radar.
CasaDeFranco 4 years ago
I went for a woman lower in SMV, she confessed a year in to cheating in the first month; women of higher SMV have a higher standard and reject most lower SMV advances.
Acerhand 4 years ago
It isnt always going to stop it happening. Sometimes they will cheat because they are a cheater. Maybe you missed red flags. Maybe your game wasnt tight enough and the smv gap got you lazy. Perhaps you even overestimate your own SMV which is common. We can have endless speculations.
The point is still in general you will have a better time of it. You will natural have dread without much effort. Not always but often.
It is hypergammy 101. Women always want more, and their biggest fear is “is he the best guy I can get?”. Key there being can get. You dont have to be the highest smv guy, just one of the highest she believes she can get. If you slip, you can still go down in smv to her just from shit game.
CasaDeFranco 4 years ago
Indeed, in my case she was a broken woman and I didn't vet hard enough; there were red flags. The one thing I love about TRP is there answer is always, be the best man you can be, the rest will follow; total ownership of your life. It's a tough pill but God gave us wide shoulders, to carry the world on our shoulders.
321cmecum 4 years ago
What has me so stunned is that she just came to me like "Yo I found someone better who gives me new tingles so umm, yeah, we had fun lol I will catch you around". Zero difficulty in doing this from her side. Just like a robot.
markinsinz7 4 years ago
And the wise man said,
"The glass is already broken my friend".
the13thmonk 4 years ago
It’s awful. At the same time shit like this is why TRP exists. So you have a strategy and network to discuss with.
It sounds like you did most things right. Maybe could just do them a bit better which I’m sure you’ll do with time.
I’m so sorry dude. Hope the pain passes quickly and you can get back to your purpose
Thotasaurus_Rex 4 years ago
Yes that is actually very brutal. I guess if you look at it from her perspective she had already decided to do this some time ago and has already processed the emotions of breaking up with you.
It wouldn't surprise me if the guy she left you for was the one lending a shoulder when she was going through it.
It makes sense that she would break up with you once she had come to terms with it and was less emotional. I'd go as far to say she's convinced herself you where a bad boyfriend, alleviating her of any guilt.
It isn't spontaneously hitting you in the face, it seems you did miss some signs.
AlfredKinsey 4 years ago
Eventually, you should get this good at nexting girls.
OnceOnABlueMoonDay 4 years ago
Well first she had the feeling, then she verified it was true and actionable, then the rest is simply protocol to make things easy for both sides (expecially hers, doesn't mean she wants you to feel bad about it more than you will by default).
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It doesn't mean either she didn't think you were great, just she found something she likes more and it's available so why not.
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It's like when you go on one attraction at luna park and you like it and don't think about the rest but meanwhile you are waiting the queue to slim up on another you like more, you thank the first and hope it doesn't think bad of you but you still go the other way now.
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This and the usual things about habit, new adventures, mistery, etc.
jbpostv 4 years ago
Really hard to hear this man especially with that many years. Proof that women will wear a mask to protect their situation and their outrageous abundance. She probably played still in love for a bit acting as she always does but she was checked out internally until her hand grasped the next branch. Really makes you think about the whole “women cannot genuinely love men” theory but it’s such a dark worldview.
mabden 4 years ago
Did she ever bring up future long term plans? Her cavalier attitude indicates she had little investment in you as a long term option.
friendandadvisor 4 years ago
It IS amazing, isn't it. It's how women are.
Dude, DYES(idebar)?
chocolatex 4 years ago
get tested for sure
walkingbabymaker 4 years ago
Her n-count?
Cloak_and_Rose 4 years ago
I've been through something similar, they just turn cold.
It's pretty captivating to see actually, like something has been switched off completely.
You'll get better man, I promise, give it time and lick your wounds
Fonzoon 4 years ago
it’s true. it can even happen before an actual relationship has begun. I agree, it’s quite fascinating. I think it’s because on average they have (or think they have) more options. naturally breeds a “guys are expendable mats” mentality
Andgelyo 4 years ago
Shit happens. Got cheated on when I was 18. Learned a lot from it. Instead of moving in with one woman, you should’ve been dating and fucking other women and not commit to this one girl. Hate to say it, but giving your commitment and moving in dried her up which lead her to branch swinging.
TurboEdition 4 years ago
This is so true.
Blackhawk2479 4 years ago
Light switch effect.
This is really a good thing; you’re 24, don’t waste any more of your twenties in exclusive relationships.
LordLoveRocket00 4 years ago
Light switch effect blew my mind when i stumbled across it last year after a break-up. She had convinced herself that the last year and a half of the relationship was shit, (she even had a date in her head). I couldn't understand it then i read about the light switch thing and it made so much sense.
If OP reads this. There's light at the end of the tunnel man. Next few weeks months you'll feel bitter and lonely especially after living together. But fuck her. Dont pine after her. Take care yea
literal_ass_hole 4 years ago
got a link that explains the lightswitch effect?
LordLoveRocket00 4 years ago
Google or else the side bar
organicfluxx 4 years ago
What would be different if he were in his 40's?
Blackhawk2479 4 years ago
Well his options may be reduced - depends on how well he looks after himself, but the main thing will be that he probably won’t want to keep endlessly plating girls in favour of something more meaningful.
Point is it’s easier and makes more sense to do it in your twenties and thirties.
LordLoveRocket00 4 years ago
Money, looks, frame, etc hes basically saying that your 20's are your golden years for bucking loads of women, so dont waste it settling down in ltr's in that decade. That's what i took from it anyway
ShinyRedKetoPill 4 years ago
That perhaps there were plans and hopes to have children or something. I think an LTR in your teens and early twenties is less likely to involve plans like that whereas a guy in his 40s may have had plans like that and would be more bummed when it falls apart.
hmsthinkingmeat 4 years ago
I'm in my 40's and my wife of 20 years went off the rails and I split up with her - it sucked. Unitl...
...while I was buying a new car (she got the one we had), the salesman who was 64 told me his wife of 40-odd years had just told him she didn't want to be together any more.
Poor fucker thought he was retiring next year, now he's living in a rented house miles away from work, and at SIXTY FOUR he's having to try and rebuild his life.
There's always some poor fucker worse off than you are.
nicyhasreddit 4 years ago
Unfortunately if you ask her why...
she will just go along the lines of...
'dk, he just feels right.'
That's what a girl I was interested in said to me. Women are not able to love you unconditionally.
I still remember when she got a new job, she told me, she heads straight home after work. Okay, fine.
Just weeks later she was hanging out at a guy's house. After work. Turns out, that man was her new boyfriend.
I hope that man never has to go through what I did.
Blackhawk2479 4 years ago
Not able you mean.
furoshus 4 years ago
An important distinction my man. Quite true.
baytadanks 4 years ago
Couldn't tell her you love her after 4 years? Bro you're the robot here.
AlfredKinsey 4 years ago
LTRs are tough and there is little information in the post, but I do get the vibe that comfort tests weren't being passed at this stage in the relationship.
THEDIKDEALER 4 years ago
U stupid fuck he obviously did show her in his actions
Peshquabz 4 years ago
u stupid fuck ????
dtyler86 4 years ago
I’m sorry to reverberate the other comments that’s she’s likely been cheating, but I went through this with a 5 year LTR. That saying “date your girl or someone else will” is likely what’s at play. My girl was similar, fiercely loyal, but I neglected to notice (how could I?) that she had underlying insecurity problems and her new boss, my friend, at MY place of work where I got her hired, she had been cheating on me for months after work. When we broke up it was identical, “I’ll find a new apt”. I’m sorry for your stress, but you’ll survive and look back happily that at least you didn’t marry this asshole.
I have to ask: is she an equestrian by any chance?
stumpystan 4 years ago
What kind of insecurity problems?
dtyler86 4 years ago
Overall hated herself, according to her search history I found when I was in “WHOS SHE FUCKING” mode, ore TRP btw
the13thmonk 4 years ago
“You didn’t marry THIS asshole.”
Nah man. AWALT
dtyler86 4 years ago
You’re not wrong
TurboEdition 4 years ago
I second this.
MrAgamemnon 4 years ago
I have said it before, I will say it again: green flags do not exist.
In the weeks to come, as your brain processes everything, I think you will find a bunch of them. You were blind with complacency.
This is one of them:
shredzro 4 years ago
Pointing out that she rarely shit tested him being a red flag is something I didn’t think of. But shit, that is some damn good invite
JohnGaltAWALT 4 years ago
Why is rarely shit testing a sign of complacency?
I don't recall this being a bright neon sign -- do you mind shedding some light?
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mismm 4 years ago
If she doesn't shit test you, she is not interested in you.
mrrooftops 4 years ago
Believing in green flags is a red flag. A girl who green flags (as you say) you is lulling you into a false sense of security to hide their red flags.
Acerhand 4 years ago
Only red flags exist. Green flags like good behaviour are generally just a reflection of how she respects you and is trying to win you over in an acknowledgement of your smv gap. Thats how you should view them. She cooks for u, much like she sucks ur dick with enthusiasm is her acknowledging the gap and trying to make up for it.
The tricky party in a ltr is discerning between her doing things because she would anyway or because she wants to please you.
CasaDeFranco 4 years ago
A lot of the green flags I saw in my ex were red flags.
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She didn't drink, she didn't have social media etc reflected she couldn't handle moderation and didn't have the emotional maturity to find a happy medium.
illusiveab 4 years ago
This is only half correct. Saying that no definitive green flags exist is pure misleading, eliciting that there's no real truth to them. The context of the flags is more important. All you can really do regardless is play good offense/defense and increase your value as you age.
mrrooftops 4 years ago
Can you give an example of a definitive green flag?
Rkingpin 4 years ago
Loss of mystery/dread + Too much comfort
Recipe for loss of tingles in LTR
Read sidebar and move on to better things
InsidiousCurve 4 years ago
Also sounds like he let her define the relationship, "I'll be out of here in 3 days." You: "Okay, cool." Wtf, more like pack up and leave now.
redhawkes 4 years ago
Beat me to it. It's an Iron Rule for a reason.
iwanttoracecars 4 years ago
Dang man, have any of you ever seen Lord of war? I recently recently re watched it as a TRP adult and holy shit nics character in that fucking slays... I never realized the level of TRP and game involved in that movie and it's always been one of my favs. This is spot on with your comment. Highly suggest checking it out
tbu987 4 years ago
I know this might not be the most popular truth but she works as well with other men who she sees everyday which is an immediate red flag. Shes got Chad working with her and doing his magic on her everyday at work.
The fact that shes got available options who she regularly meets and socialises with is definitely a red flag to consider. Its not like a random pub meeting where she can only assess the guy so much in a limited time its someone shes known for a while and was able to decide hes better than what i have right now and worth forgetting the time she spent with OP.
adviceaccount03 4 years ago
This was brutal to read
Hjalmbere 4 years ago
Your turn was up, now it’s someone elses turn.
WarriorMonkMode 4 years ago
You can do everything right and still have things go wrong. That's life.
Doesn't matter how many green flags she has. All the matters is that the single red flag. There was a build up to this event.
AscensionExperiments 4 years ago
If she breathes, she a thot. Sorry bud
edwardhwhite 4 years ago
Just don't say yes to getting back together.
iwviw 4 years ago
Truth is dudes should have a couple lady friends. I mean close... to where they tell you the truth about how they operate. Women are deceptive and scandalous. They cheat more than men. You see how on trp we talk about relationships help each other and analyze and give advice women do that literally all day everyday day. They are players they know how to play the game well. All the comments in this post are on the money and it really doesn’t even surprise me anymore at all. OP use this experience to get you more focused on yourself and goals don’t let it bring you down. You dodged a bullet.
Acerhand 4 years ago
Fam. This fucking feeling. NEVER FORGET IT. This is a cold branch swing in action. Learn from it and you will become bigger and better. This is the red pill men find hardest to swallow:
Women do not love the same way men do. A womans love is even more unconditional than a mans can ever be. A womans love is fleeting. A woman loves how u make her feel and how much you make her feel like she has secured a high value man who gives her attention (validation) through this.
The moment that ends, the tingles stop, or she fonds someone who gives it to her more(she perceive as higher value) it is gone.
Somewhere along the line you became her beta. It may have been slow. You never noticed. You stopped gaming her. Sadly, even in a ltr with a good woman we can NEVER stop gaming them. Its a commitment for the entire lofe of the relationship.
wobbleelbbow 4 years ago
She was cheating way before she said those words. Or she's very honest and did what a man should do. What's more likely?
Mickusey 4 years ago
Most men aren’t even capable of shit like that anymore.
Schhwing 4 years ago
Her “spending time alone” through the week was her romancing with new dude
THEDIKDEALER 4 years ago
So true
CasaDeFranco 4 years ago
Him probably help her process the breakup.
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She will leave the new guy if a better offer presents.
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This man just cut his own throat.
atticusfinch1973 4 years ago
You got comfortable and likely didn't see warning signs. Lesson learned to be vigilant and not complacent.
Geleemann 4 years ago
That's pretty fucking infuriating. Lay off the drink though, tone it down. Get tested for STD's too because she was cheating.
edit: bring a girl home and fuck her in your bed while your ex is there
Bedtimeshine 4 years ago
The hardest part hasn’t come yet. When she realizes the enormity of what she’s done. When she realizes that what she liked about him was the fact that he only needed to play one role (new excitement while her security needs were already met by you) and shit is real now and he has to fulfill all roles and will leave her unfulfilled she will try to come crawling back. Relationships with affair partners have a 90+% fail rate because of this reason... the relationship isn’t as fun when it’s no longer butterflies and being “bad.” You gotta be strong and squash that shit and tell her live with her choices and to have a nice life. While you become the best physical, financial, and social version of yourself.
pridebrah 4 years ago
This x100. The new relationship has everything working against it off the bat. The phase to start thinking about is no contact (starting now) and remaining strong once she returns in some capacity, even if she texts "hey" a year from now.
friendandadvisor 4 years ago
Nah, a contemptuous cackle is more than enough.
moomookingmoose 4 years ago
This OP. Block her on everything, delete your pics if you guys together, and if she ever shows up at your door just tell her to leave and slam the door in her face. I can give you an almost guarantee she'll be back eventually, might be weeks, might be months.
TurboEdition 4 years ago
This is what I did when it happened to me. She was hella mad that she couldn't contact me LOL.
Bedtimeshine 4 years ago
No need to do all this. Just simply say “no thanks” and keep a self improvement and goal oriented life. I would invite her in and catch up and walk her out after. And I would have zero problem continuing or starting back up a purely sexual relationship with her. She would just never be my gf again.
friendandadvisor 4 years ago
Yes, but, what if she got preggers? Who needs a whore to carry his baby?
Bedtimeshine 4 years ago
That’s why Jesus invented condoms
TurboEdition 4 years ago
This is an horrible advice. It's self-destructive.
LordLoveRocket00 4 years ago
I agree you just cant go back to having a 4 year ltr, her fucking you over, then keeping her as a plate. Unless your completely emotionless.
Dont be vindictive to her, dont acknowledge her on any media unless absolutely vital. Delete her number, snapchat. Fuck delete your fb, that makes it so much easier. Her not knowing what your doing, who your fuckin will blow up her little head more than anything else. And it leaves you free to move on.
TurboEdition 4 years ago
Great advice, that's what I did when it happened to me.
usernameishardtomake 4 years ago
Also, if she contacts you again, ignore. She doesn't exist in your world anymore. N go bang other girls right now
MOSFETBJT 4 years ago
All of you guys are scolding OP for not being RP enough.
We are all human and we develop feelings for the people close to us. You're not going to be some macho, emotion free robot just by lifting and holding frame.
I think he just wants some sympathy from us rather than being told he didn't read the side bar.
friendandadvisor 4 years ago
He can have both!
TopOccasion29 4 years ago
I agree but it's the truth.
OP was complacent, didn't dread enough and was probably boring. With that being said cunts will be cunts and even if you did everything right a woman can still leave you and cheat on you.
volvostupidshit 4 years ago
Always keep this one in mind and nothing can hurt you.
An_Actual_Politician 4 years ago
Lack of dread will kill even the strongest TLR.
A woman would rather fight for an increased share in an in-demand man vs. a full share that no other quality women want.
MOSFETBJT 4 years ago
No fucking shit. But I really don't think that is why OP posted. He knows he fucked up. He just wants to vent and let some people comfort him.
Us just spamming comments about how he wasn't man enough isn't want someone getting out of an LTR needs to hear. The guy needs to rebulid his confidence.
An_Actual_Politician 4 years ago
I'm not saying he wasn't man enough at all. Shit it could have been completely out of his control. AWALT and all.
As for the place to vent, that's not what this sub is for. If he wants a place to be a victim then I suggest he visit almost any other sub on Reddit, where he can go be a crab in a bucket.
This is constructive criticism.
2comment 4 years ago
Your relationship was comfortable, like an old shoe. It sounded like there was minimal passion in between the sex sessions too, at least from the robotic way you described everything, like you were friends than lovers, maybe I'm wrong here and it's just your shock talking.
But I think she was bored.
4 years is also a long time for a woman in her prime not to get knocked up, biologically and evolutionary speaking. It's something that we men like to ignore, but female bodies are already ready to get pregnant at 13-14, and by their mid-20s a childless woman will have spent the better, healthier half their reproductive life fucking with no results to show for it. They may take the pill and all, but their bodies are evolutionarily designed to procreate, not for modern society, careers, and all that unimportant bullshit. If one partner ain't getting the job done, their biologically program is gonna signal them to jump to another, no fucking strategy will prevent that.
That's why I think of these fantasies of childless ltrs are mostly unattainable. Her biology ain't gonna give a shit if you need 10 years to build a business or career while her clock is ticking away.
furoshus 4 years ago
Couldn't agree more.
classylassy28 4 years ago
4 years?
The boredom hit. You never purposed. She figured out this is her last chance to Make a big life change. The guy at work is a better match/hotter.q You just aren't what she see herself with in ten years/wants kids with. She didn't shit test you... You were roommates. Lots of reasons.
effyouasshole 4 years ago
"She was never yours. It was only your turn."
Merica911 4 years ago
First off, that little fuck fling she has at work for the co worker will diminish due to she's see the dude 24/7, and soon he's no mystery.. 80% of work couples end up not working and 1 person ends up leaving or transfer out of the company..
But all this isn't going to make you feel better. The absolutely best thing to do is go ghost on her but only until she hits you up. And when you do have her talk, make the conversation like she's a neighbor (no personal information exchange). 100% cut all ties.. Delete all her family friends off Facebook etc.. And if she never comes back, it actually tells something about the relationship (it was really shit)
I'm sorry to ask, but is there something you're leaving out? Do you not have an alpha mindset (you cry, and whine a lot?)
Even if the TRP she was bound to bounce if ever a guy with higher SMV is around but I wouldn't doubt there's more to this story
AlfredKinsey 4 years ago
This is important. Drop her and related contacts from social media, block them if you don't have the self control to avoid stalking.
SlappaDaBayssMon 4 years ago
Everybody's making all kinds of assumptions and giving you "advice" based on shit they're making up.
It's okay to be hurt, and it's okay to have feelings for women. Don't let this fuck your head up in the future.
If it were me, I'd be upset there wasn't a fight. I would feel like I deserved answers, maybe you feel the same.
I know this won't sound good now, but we've all been dumped pretty hard before, and we've all gotten back on the horse and crushed it, you will too in time.
One day you'll be with a hotter girl and think back on this and be glad it happened.
Also, quitting drinking a few months ago was the single most powerful improvement to my game. Alcohol is a depressant, saps gains, ruins confidence ( liquid courage is bullshit), and overall a complete disadvantage to your game.
nicyhasreddit 4 years ago
She at least has enough respect for you to not cheat but break up with you first. You dodged a bullet.
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Basically, just bang 10 girls. She just gave you that opportunity.
friendandadvisor 4 years ago
LOLZ.
boom_bostic 4 years ago
Yeah. Least she had the decency to let you know she was breaking up with you. A lot of women would just wait until you walked in on her having sex with another guy.
life036 4 years ago
Maybe she didn't respect you because you talk like a valley girl?
SlappaDaBayssMon 4 years ago
Lol nice contribution
strongfarts 4 years ago
Daaamn that was ice cold brother! I am sorry to hear that you experienced that. If you don’t mind me asking, in which country do you live?
I live in Scandinavia and I heard multiple stories of man being dropped like nothing for the next guy.
goomerall3 4 years ago
AWALT. You got to see feminine nature at play in its purest form. You should get used to this. It's natural. You could spend years with a girl and share "love" and she'll hamster everything away like it was nothing. That's life.
Xerexes3869 4 years ago
You'll be fine bro. Eventually. I went exactly through the same thing in college.
FlyingSexistPig 4 years ago
You've said how great she was to you.
What did you do for her?
Furrealyo 4 years ago
This couldn’t matter less.
Chad could take a liquid dump on her chest during foreplay and she’d hamster it as “sexually adventurous”.
tefllifestyle 4 years ago
Thats hilarious
TheRedPillRipper 4 years ago
AWALT. u/321cmecum you had your turn. A four year long one at that. She didn't leave you; you dodged a bullet. After you're done binging, hit the gym heavy, and get those feel good endorphins pumping. You'll be back to gold in no time!
Godspeed and good luck!
Kommanderdude 4 years ago
You were a beta cock fag and failed to give we pussy the tingles.
End of story.
Also never ltr while under the age of 30z
dutchgguy 4 years ago
That must suck. I can't really give advice based on what you're saying. It just seems a tad unprofessional of her to date someone from work.
jbpostv 4 years ago
Unfortunately this beautiful relationship is incongruent with raw sexual desire. LTR’s are for stability and companionship which kills intrigue and excitement. I feel bad for you because it seems you had your shit together and were redpilled from an SMV standpoint in your relationship but whether it’s a guy with higher SMV or simply the intrigue of the unknown and thrill that comes with a novel guy, which never goes away, a woman will not stay unless she can’t do better or there’s constant dread that you can and might do better. Sexual attraction for women is stimulated by jealousy, insecurity, fear of missing out and hypergamy. Now you might have the last but sadly, and it’ll always bother me, the stable, loving and trustworthy committed relationship isn’t compatible with long term sexual desire. It needs chaos, drama and unpredictability to keep women addicted to the same dick for decades and that’s not a “good relationship”. If you want a good long term situation for your life, better to spin plates into your late 30s and marry a woman at her early thirties wall when her SMV is declining and yours is still rising.
TopOccasion29 4 years ago
This is the truth. It's a catch 22 as well. Sometimes as a man you feel like you don't want to play these stupid games and just want a stable and drama-free relationship with a woman who shares the same thoughts with you...BUT it is impossible except if she's extremely boring.
It kinda sucks...but it is what it is and as men we just have to adapt. When i was stable and kind women would run from me. I was able to get a few hook-ups but they wouldn't really be stimulated by my presence. I'm in College now and anytime i'm carefree, reckless, teasing them and creating drama they love it. I even had two girls in my dorm get into a a fight over me. Crazy shit. God help us all.
jbpostv 4 years ago
It’s unfortunate we men have to stoop to the level of the female games and play to their tone but it’s necessary. I favor SMV and LMS as the core of my strategy because that way you have a great life for yourself regardless of women (low dependence/being on purpose). If you’ve ever read seduction by Robert Greene, a must, in the intro he notes that seduction is a relatively new phenomena for men who in the past simply competed on LMS and acquired women as property agreed to marriage between families but romance and all the RSD/PUA attraction mind games and googly gops always felt like a unfortunate chore to get laid and not entirely masculine. It’s not natural for men who could care less about validation, jealousy, drama and all the gossip and shock and awe that women get off on. It’s also defacto psychopathic manipulation and Machiavellianism but unfortunately this is what the primitive animal hindbrain of a woman responds to.
Acerhand 4 years ago
I honestly feel like a psycho sometimes but i started to view it differently. The dating market has changed. Men will always adapt to the market and the game or get left behind. Its that simple. Female hypergammy unrestricted is a new paragdim for society and Red pill is honestly a new frontier. Men or males of any species will always adapt and do what is most effective to reproduce, and those best at it will always win.
Those who fail to adapt lose. Right now Bp men clinging to a strategy that worked a hundred years ago are failing to adapt.
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Tinazhe 4 years ago
Read the side bar
LilLoserFreny 4 years ago
AWALT, who cares. Move on.
CaptainKidd96 4 years ago
One thing: hypergamy doesn't care. She found someone who she perceives is better than you and left you for him.
Don't beat yourself up over this my man. No matter how shitty you feel now, things will get better. Don't give up on yourself and keep improving yourself even if you just wanna lay in bed and feel sorry for yourself.
SrslyNoMayo 4 years ago
appears like you have really nothing to offer her. seems like she just takes care of you all the time, especially when you're sick (also a sign of weakness). tingles come easy for them in this kind of scenario.
masterpiece00 4 years ago
You were her safe beta bux whilst she fucked chads at her own will. This guy was not the first.
CharruaNative 4 years ago
Unhelpful
GolfinEagle 4 years ago
Hard truth.
friendandadvisor 4 years ago
Wrong. He needs a new, true vision of the facts of life. This is always helpful. It won't get her back, but, getting her back would be hurtful, not helpful.
masterpiece00 4 years ago
Well not now no, she's worked out her end and executed the plan, many times and he was he beta bux, the unlucky beta whom didn't know who she was.
CasaDeFranco 4 years ago
He knows the truth, no need to kick a man whilst he is down. He already knows the harsh truth.
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Not everything is black or white, it's not that he wasn't alpha, it's just he didn't give her a child, the next inflection point.
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This man has higher value and presents mystery, something new.
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boom_bostic 4 years ago
This is it. Times have changed. A woman this age would be considered prime birthing age 100+ years ago. When you have children with a man, who’s going to take care of you & your offspring better than the father of your children? So women back in the day knew this & made it work.
It’s like a question I heard Roosh answer a while back. Someone asked “Are women disloyal” and his answer was basically was that you take a woman who lives out in a cabin located in the desolate woods with her husband & family. None of them ever has any contact with television or media in general. They see very few people outside of family & neighbors & possibly the church. They work to raise the family farm, hunt & whatever trade they use to survive.
The woman in this scenario is probably the most loyal person you could ever meet. But you take that same woman & place her in a metropolitan area, give her the usual influences that we all see & have & she’s just another average, meaningless thot.
So it’s not the woman, per se, it’s the environment. The culture.
BigFeetBigDick 4 years ago
So she’s still at your house then..? Pick up a girl and fuck her in your bed.
muriXO 4 years ago
Would be a great power move when his new plate would see his ex girlfriend at home and he would introduce his ex as his ”ex roommate who is moving out soon“ lol
AlfredKinsey 4 years ago
Strong agree. This is a good idea, even though it creates drama. If nothing else, you'll get over your feelings for your gf and get laid faster this way.
0io- 4 years ago
Can go for threesome too. Pretty high odds of success since she already had sex with you before and new girl is hot and right there and you're broken up all ready. Classic opportunity for "it just happened". Also sets her up to be friends with benefits later on when she is bored with new boyfriend.
iwviw 4 years ago
If he did that his ex would get so jealous she’d probably get tingles and bang him the next day
BadDeath 4 years ago
Do this OP. Plus points if she is hotter than an 8/10 (won’t be easy if you don’t have plates, in less than 3 days). She didn’t respect you, she probably has done it behind your back, and she couldn’t say anything because you are not together anymore. It’s not revenge, you are just showing that you can do better in less than 3 days
-ThePathIsTheGoal- 4 years ago
Lmao this ^
iwviw 4 years ago
But she’d still go with the new guy. Unless she thinks op would tell him then she’d stay with op especially if op shows mad dread
AlfredKinsey 4 years ago
This is not about getting his GF for an LTR, lol. That's obviously broken.
This is about getting lai and her leaving while he looks like a fucking slayer.
friendandadvisor 4 years ago
Even better! OP sure as shit doesn't want a whore to stay with him, after this.
-ThePathIsTheGoal- 4 years ago
I wish some hardened red pill wizard would legitimately test this out just to expose and basically play with the female nature like a cat plays with a ball of yarn.
AlfredKinsey 4 years ago
Been there, done that. It's real shit. This has made women in my life 1.) profess their love for me 2.) Engage in FFM threesomes 3.) Take the LTR to plate downgrade.
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An_Actual_Politician 4 years ago
I did this and let me tell you - it fucking works. But I've always been hesitant to detail it here because the RP larpers will immediately try to pick up RP theory as a means to prolong their oneitis.
Shit doesn't work like that and they can smell it of you're pretending from a mile away. But when you're legit in DGAF mode and have moved on to fucking someone else (don't have to tell them, they know).......you should see how fast they run back.
elgodo7 4 years ago
Told you to sleep on the sofa the disrespect does not stop
isthisalreadyused 4 years ago
He told her that, but others are right, he should have booted her out. Or keep her there and bring any other fuckpiece home immediately.
elgodo7 4 years ago
My bad read it wrong.
red_matrix 4 years ago
She’s been doing this for a while. Women are masters of deception, it’s part of their DNA. Thinking back, did she ever act out of the ordinary - different gym nights, hanging with her best friends more often, coming home later (even 1/2 hr), etc? She’s been doing this for a long time. Hypergamy is ruthless.
She’s not yours, it’s just your turn. The glass is already broken.
Quit drinking, get your ass back into the gym, take some time to mourn the loss of your relationship, do the Monk Mode thing for a few month to clean up your mind.
Ivabighairy1 4 years ago
The only green flag I see is that she isn’t your problem anymore.
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le_king_falcon 4 years ago
Shit situation that you handled reasonably well at the very end.
You can sleep on the couch and ill help you pa k is a fucking great response.
Now where you went wrong is the lead up too this.
Seeing green flags is complacency incarnate. There are no green flags for creatures as prone to whimsy and illogical behaviour as women in relationships are. There is only the absence of red flags which can change quicker than I can say "I told you so."
Somewhere along the line you lost something, It could have been the air of mystery, your backbone or just your drive to be better. Something changed that lowered her attraction enough to set her down the path to window shopping and eventually full on branch swinging. Identify that change and avoid such things in future.
As others have said, with a clear head you'll start seeing things in a new light and have a few revelations about signs you missed.
As for right now you need to get your head back in the game. In a situation like this drinking is poor form but understandable. You need to give yourself one night to be a pussy and drink your sorrows away. Next morning no matter how shitty you feel you get the fuck up, tidy your place and yourself up and do something productive. Whether that's a fucking dire hungover gym sesh or fully removing any of her influence on your place just do it and then lay off the booze until your minds right son.
DO NOT wallow in self pity, do not let it fuck your routine. If you need to think go do some fucking cardio son. Nothing like a long run, ride or swim to mull shit over. Otherwise eyes and mind fully on whatever your mission is.
jrr6415sun 4 years ago
from the emotion in your post I highly doubt you were this calm and accepting immediately.
boom_bostic 4 years ago
Yeah. And also, I couldn’t blame him for getting upset about it & showing some raw emotion, if that’s what he did. I mean, it’d be expected.
nummas 4 years ago
That is harsh, but allot of harsh truths in the replies also.
The one saying that I live by from this site....
She is not yours, it's just your turn....
And for you mate, your turn is up. Always enjoy the here and now with a woman, but ALWAYS, be ready for it to end. Always. It's just how things are, as much as we don't like it. Hypergamy is what it is, AWALT. There will always be the risk of a guy with higher SMV than you. Specially in corporate. And don't live with women.
thrownawayisland 4 years ago
Dude I'm sorry this happened to you. Had a similiar thing where there were no red flags then outta nowhere she decides to find a job out of town and end things like a robot. Like now I find it hard to trust these chicks when they are all happy and saying "you are their world" and then suddenly they go beep bop boop we are done.
boom_bostic 4 years ago
Ok, I know you’re getting a ton of replies so I’ll try to make mine short & direct.
My first thought as I read this was that she got bored. You look good on paper but women, especially young women, care about the tingles you give them.
You said she rarely shit tested you. This leans towards confirming her boredom. Women like feeling the highs & lows, like a roller coaster, of the emotional spectrum.
Also, try to take some time to properly get over this girl. Process what has happened, learn to accept it & MOST OF ALL - grow from it. I know this stuff is painful & it shakes you right down to the core. But I promise you, it’s like the diamond in the rough analogy, this can make you stronger, better & more of a complete man.
Last thing I’ll say, I’ve lived with girls before & it never worked out. Only when my last girlfriend got pregnant, did I allow her to move into my house. We lived together a year or so & we got pregnant again. So I had two kids before I married my wife. I think it works (us living together) now because we have kids together & I’m a lot more mature. There’s something about living together that makes it feel like friends sharing an apartment together. I highly suggest not doing it.
forsaken_in_the_dark 4 years ago
I wish my LTR did that. You have a great opportunity ahead of you to work on yourself in peace.
Never again live with a female.
awildash 4 years ago
Hey man I'm sorry that happened to you. It's happened to almost all of us here I'm sure. It's the worst fucking feeling in the world. You're going to be fine and will be a stronger person from this
truthbomb999 4 years ago
Dude it sucks, but take a 2 week trip to thailand, experience some.abundance, and I promise you won't be able to remember her name when you get back
Gizzzzzzzmo 4 years ago
Pattaya!!
MegladonBass 4 years ago
Have you been there?
truthbomb999 4 years ago
I haven't yet, been to Philippines twice, s. Korea, and I'm in Mexico City as I write this. I know many guys who have been and they have about thailand
tefllifestyle 4 years ago
Yeap, Asian girls love whites dudes
truthbomb999 4 years ago
Not just that but you are optimizing hypergamy with a comparatively hot and poor girl meeting a man head and shoulders above her in status and wealth. Race doesn't matter over there as much but a white guy will be swimming in pussy
pridebrah 4 years ago
Knowing nothing about Thailand except stories of 'lady boys' (lol), how does one avoid all that shit and get some quality pussy there?
truthbomb999 4 years ago
There are hoards of women there that are selling pussy or that are happy to be your girlfriend for a week. Unless you are looking for a lady boy, you probably won't find one. There are go go bars that have girls numbered and you just pick one out.If you like her, take her to the hotel
Alliaenor 4 years ago
That was just your turn
flapjacksrbetter 4 years ago
Wait homie. What was her explanation?
legospartan 4 years ago
this is cold hard truth they will always branch swing if given the chance and your LTR did... god speed and happy hunting
Well_hung_Yakuza 4 years ago
All sounds to good to be true. Too much comfort and the dreaded move in. Especially these 8/10 "angels" need a lot of dread to keep them interested, even if they not make it seem like they do. Some fighting, dread game and lots of bratty little sister play is what keeps the flame going. Otherwise the fire will burn out and only burn again for another, stronger, man.
MarlboroMan62 4 years ago
We have all been there. You are going to be fine. You are a bit young for an LTR, but that is beside the point.
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This is why red pill encourages an abundance mentality. When this type of thing happens, you stoically gnash your teeth for a bit and say "dang, i hate when that happens" and you move on to the next one. You have abundance mentality and you "know" you can get with another girl in a reasonable amount time at your own pace.
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she never loved you the way that you think. women love and invest differently. she won't love the next guy romantically either. all women love opportunistically, not romatically.
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Now is a good time to read The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi. It covers just about everything. You will keep busy for a bit, regroup, and reading it will be investing in your future.
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Your going to be fine. As Uncle Vasiliy would say, "go associate with ten other women"
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-ThePathIsTheGoal- 4 years ago
I don’t believe that a woman’s love for a man is either black or white, I don’t anymore at least. Yes it is opportunistic and conditional. She can never love you in the same way you love them, but her opportunistic love is to varying degrees - that’s the key word. Women can absolutely be enthralled and head over heels in love with you (opportunistic love that is), but there is rarely any pinpoint moment where she just flips to not loving you. It is a gradual process in which her high degree of love for you starts to lessen to a lower degree.
It could be that you get complacent and induce this process yourself by acting beta. Or, there could be literally nothing you could’ve done (ie a new hot high SMV guy at work who is perceived to be better).
Act as you should, but always remain detached and aware of their nature.
VasiliyZaitzev 4 years ago
Uncle Vasya would point out that, if you were plating 3 or so girls, you would be lest busted up about "cheating" because One Woman could not walk out of the door with 100% of your Pussy Supply.
thrownawayisland 4 years ago
Hey on a side note, you mentioned in some other posts that you are a front man in a band as an older dude. Have you written anything on that? I've been an edm producer for years but am thinking about getting out into the night world and dj'ing now that I'm pretty decent. Was also thinking of learning the guitar and just doin my own band thing for fun (not fame or anything haha).
Totally random in this post, I know, but you are an inspiration to us all!
VasiliyZaitzev 4 years ago
Not particularly. It was more a function of me being the 2nd voice in my band, the primary guy leaving (no lie) for Hollywood and us auditioning people who weren't going to work out. After 7 auditions, the other guys in the band turned to me and said, "You're the singer now." And that's how it went.
Do it. Right now.
That quote you see from time to time by Dave Grohl where he says you don't get to be a star by going on The Voice (or whatever), you start off playing shitty instruments badly in your friends garage, and you keep going, and suddenly you're Nirvana. Play every day. Also, practice with a metronome. Your bassists and drummers will thank you.
thrownawayisland 4 years ago
Really appreciate your response, I want to take a lead on something and I'm passionate about music so you've helped inspire me!
Deplorable090 4 years ago
Who is this Vasiliy person? I have seen his name mentioned a lot. Did he write sidebar stuff n i missed it?
VasiliyZaitzev 4 years ago
Hi there. I'm a purveyor of Good Advice and Hard Truths. I wrote "CorporateLand" on the sidebar, which isn't only about CorporateLand, but was when I started. A lot of guys like my posts and my insights into how Hamsters think, but any wisdom I have is the product of Long and Difficult experience.
But to you guys, it's free.
LordLoveRocket00 4 years ago
Must check some of your stuff out, i probably already have and didn't take notice of the author. Experience is the best way to learn. Some reading for bed tonight. Cheers man. Take care yea
Deplorable090 4 years ago
Wow, I'm shocked you responded. Thank you for putting the time and energy into this to help out others. I going to go check out CorporateLand and see if its something I have read. Its been a couple years since I looked at the side bar... Then again I should have it memorized
VasiliyZaitzev 4 years ago
You're welcome. I'm here to help.
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VasiliyZaitzev 4 years ago
That isn't my alt, because I don't have an alt.
friendandadvisor 4 years ago
Hmm...I could have SWORN that I detected alts!
OK, nvermnd.
VasiliyZaitzev 4 years ago
"Uncle Vasya" is a brand name here; I don't need alts. I did it the old-fashioned way; I earned it. /JohnHouseman
friendandadvisor 4 years ago
I.
Was.
Joking.
I was going to put a :) after it, but, I didn't want to look like some half a fag.
adeptintact 4 years ago
You showed weakness in the hospital and opening up to her. Once women see weakness they lose interest.
beachbbqlover 4 years ago
Let go.
Humans are like little bald monkeys. On a wet rock in space. We live for maybe 100 spins around our star, out of billions.
Further, relationships aren't a collection of things you keep. They're things that are happening or aren't.
So decide to let yourself take a little while to let yourself mourn, and then move on.
AlfredKinsey 4 years ago
Welcome to young adulthood and hearbreak! Your depression doesn't need explaining: you're heartbroken. Oxytocin, dopamine, and more feel good chemicals that you've come to rely on from your relationship are leaving your body. The good news is that breaking up gets easier with practice. Expect about four months of emotional recovery.
Cut down/moderate/quit the drinking quickly, preferably by the time you have to work on Monday. It will only delay pain and the mourning process. It will also fuck with your brain chemistry and teach you that drugs can replace human connection, which is a lie. I empathize with your desire to do so, but it is destructive so knock it off ASAP. If you do drink, drink socially with friends. Also, replace drinking with lifting.
In the future, don't cohabitate with your partner. She was not the one. There is no such thing as the one. Find some other bitches. I am genuinely sorry for you, but you'll do fine. Use this as a chance to upgrade and enjoy variety. Keep your finances in order, keep up with hobbies, and if you can extract the remainder of rent from your ex, get that check.
friendandadvisor 4 years ago
Fuck that shit. OP is in a strong self-pity mode. It showed midway through this post "I can't trust anybody anymore!"
Faggot don't need you to enable his faggotry.
He's a man, and a winner-he's just in a bitch mode, and needs to come out of it. He should be out getting pussy, and you're telling him it's ok to sulk like a woman for 4 months?? Wrong-O!
AlfredKinsey 4 years ago
I'm not saying he should sulk. My comment says to move on and find replacement pussy, but it is likely that there will be emotional pain for a few months after a 4 year committed relationship. That seems reasonable to me. Are you retarded?
evolutionmorpheus 4 years ago
Not gonna lie this will hit you pretty hard. There's a lot of points in there that look like you've set yourself up for this to take an emotional toll but here's a few key points to help you through:
-Being on trp will help you make sense of so much of this, so you're already off to a decent start.
-Make sure you have 0 contact with your ex. No stalking her social media, probably distance yourself from any mutual friends, block her number, get rid of anything that is gonna make you think about her. Do not make any excuses for her or kid yourself that you can fix this.
-Don't dwell on the green flags, all that means is you had a higher smv than her. She can still leave you for someone that (seemingly) has a higher smv than you. All you can really do about this is increase your own smv. In future I would also probably not aim for anyone with a much lower smv than yourself. It doesn't really protect you as much as you might think, you're better off making your own smv seem higher than it is or just genuinely jacking it up. If you're making $73K per year you've definitely got enough to work with, especially now you have one less expense.
-She was definitely cheating on you. This is also a topic you probably don't need to know any more about than you already do.
-This would probably be a good time to go into monk mode, just make sure you don't spend more time than you have to thinking about what happened. But if you can throw yourself into training, investing, self improvement etc. for the next six months you'll be able to put yourself on the next level.
Look after yourself and good luck!
TheEarlobe 4 years ago
Props to you for making 73k/year at 24. Sounds like you’re on top of the world (other than this relationship). You’ll do fine.
VasiliyZaitzev 4 years ago
So, first, the guys saying she was cheating on you for a while are 100% correct. Monkeys don't let go of the old branch until they have a grip on the new branch.
Well, there was at least one.
That you knew about.
You keep using that word, "none". I don't think it means what you think it means.
Because your Reptilian Brain is thinking, "FUCK! NOW where am I gonna get pussy from?!" Maintaining abundance is hard. Competing is hard. That's how old married guys getting divorced by their wives sometimes wind up as the back half of a murder-suicide.
Cut that shit out right now. It's not helping anything. Channel your hurt into positive things. Use your free time constructively.
Oh, and GFTOW.
boom_bostic 4 years ago
????????????????Money.
The best thing about having men as friends—they won’t sugarcoat reality to make you feel momentarily better. Instead they give you the harsh reality, in hopes that it will have a long term positive effect.
INNASKILLZ2K18 4 years ago
AAAnnnnddd bang! There goes the blue pill balloon.
It's shit like this that I think about when women ask me 'why aren't you committed'? Go fuck yourself, that's why.
Bitch probably went into total self-centered mode, arranged everything for a while in order to ensure the branch swing would work.
Anyway, she's putting herself in a fucked up position. If it IS a guy from work, and she's moving in with him, then she's shitting where she eats and will also be in a live-in situation with new guy. Unless he knows Red Pill on hard mode, that situation isn't going to go well.
With how bad a decision it is, I wonder if it is really is a 'guy from work'.
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eddielovett 4 years ago
A few things stick out to me:
You said you were in the hospital with an autoimmune disorder. It’s possible this made you look weak. She might have felt like your genes were not worthy of mixing with hers.
Also you stated that you often spent time apart during the week. This is a red flag to me. Your woman should be borderline obsessed with you and always want to hang out with you. The fact that this wasn’t the case should’ve been an indication of her lackluster attraction for you.
Finally, all those good qualities you noted about her made her sound equal to or possibly higher than you in SMV. The guy she’s been fucking from her work is undoubtedly better at sex and might also make more money. She upgraded and thus felt no guilt for leaving you because she’s succeeding as a woman.
TurboEdition 4 years ago
Best of luck man, I wish everything get better for you. This sucks so bad.
AVWA 4 years ago
Just adding to what everyone else is saying. What happened to you is that your girlfriend fell for her work husband
It's a thing.
l0gicbomb 4 years ago
I feel you man. Something similar happened with me, although I had prior warnings which I ignored thanks to oneitis. Check my post history, my last post on TRP is my story and there's some pretty dope advice there. Stay strong. Keep lifting.
pridebrah 4 years ago
Been there my guy, check my post history.
Ghost this chick, talk this shit out with people close to you and vent as much as you need to, and then find out where you can improve and work on that while cultivating other female options ASAP even if its just hanging out and chilling. You have to get the abundance mindset rolling or you will stagnate.
319Skew 4 years ago
Better 4 than 10. Better LTR than wife. Better in 20s than 30s. Better with no kids. Hypergamy does not care. You can do everything right and people (women especially) can still let you down. It's all new so I'd imagine you'll go through some emotional loss. Stay strong bro
Totsean 4 years ago
I will let you in a bit of a secret, You're blind bro.
Their were red flags all over the place, you just ignored them. Shit like that doesn't happen out of nowhere, count yourself lucky and walk away.
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CasaDeFranco 4 years ago
You're right but often women (men also) are good at hiding these things.
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I've dumped women with little to no notice or obvious red flags.
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I just come to the conclusion there were better options out there and I settled.
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The reality here is, she probably had all these green flags, and was a 8-9 SMV and he was just an 8, she could get better and did.
FineCopy2 4 years ago
There must be some red flags definitely. You'll realize them as time passes. Think of it objectively. Definitely it does feel bad but it's just part of life. As red pill mentions about monkey branching and awalt. You'll soon realise the mistakes. And also she might come back to you if things don't work out with the new guy. That is the time when u have to stand up for yourself and not entertain her in any way.
zxcvb7809 4 years ago
Sucks to go though this dude. It sounds like when you two got together you isolated yourself from all plates and potential plates (as you are depressed from loosing one.) Moving forward remember this pain and try not to do this again? She clearly had other options and took one of them. In her mind at least.
currysoslutavuk 4 years ago
I bet she was cheating on you. Dont let her sleep on your couch it will make it harder for you. Just kick her out really quick. What a bitch
2comment 4 years ago
If they've been together for 4 years, 3 days is a small price to pay for a no drama breakup.
But stash any valuables away, like a bank safe.
LordMarkStark 4 years ago
Mate people are weird. Chicks get you to come out at night when you're just settling in for a good night at home then they leave you but call in the morning to check up on you to save face or some shit. Girls will be talking to you out and they have their bf right there, the girls don't give a crap. If he wasn't there she'd be in your pants. Or they go out with you one week then the next they're back with their husband/ex trying to "work through" shit.
My advice is don't settle into a relationship and if you do don't get comfortable. You're young so you have not wasted any time, really. 4 years, was good but move on. You handled this well. Don't let it get to you. Bitches be bitches.
She checked out in her head probably 1 year ago then went through the motions because of what you had. Let her go because that girl you liked for 3 years is gone. It's just the nature of the world. You can't fully trust anyone anymore but don't let it wreck being open enough to people going forward and after a time. Girls have so many options these days, it's disgusting. The best advice is don't let it get to you. She's not worth it. All the thinking you're doing about it is not worth it either.
You've dodged a bullet. Yes she is probably an idiot but remember she'll do that to him one day. So maybe he's an idiot. You got her best years, that's good. Next time don't let your girl move in, only after 5 years consider it. You're in your 20s you have plenty of living left to do. Sucks now but it won't when you're 30 for example. You'll stop caring about this in no time. You've been saved even bigger trouble from her.
epictetuslifts 4 years ago
Well she's probably cheated on you too. I wouldn't let a cheater sleep on my couch. Throw her shit out.
Catfurst 4 years ago
Maybe too cruel. At least she didn't file suits to claim half of the OP's assets and future wages on the ground of a common law marriage (or worse). Some type of judges might think she deserves it for the 4 years of her prime.
OP dodged a bullet.
jbpostv 4 years ago
Hey dude, commented earlier. Just wanna say ignore all the blunt tone deaf comments from guys who can’t empathize that this was disorienting af for you and it’s impossible to not let it churn in your head. It reflects poorly on them any guy that can keep an LTR for 5 years with a chick who works out has plenty to show for himself.
RedLegendx 4 years ago
Hypergamy, War Brides theory, female nature, AWALT.
Btw, never live with a female unless you’re married.
terra502 4 years ago
And never get married.
ambidexia 4 years ago
Unless you wanna get robbed
light-----------dark 4 years ago
amen.
yoursislovesme 4 years ago
Pretty sure she already cheated on you and you've probably lost frame with her and she decided to branch swing
Gurls dont need a lot of reasons to cheat, I'm willing to bet that the guy is not even on a higher SMV than you are but its just the way it is
You might have been "too loyal" to her and your dread game is weak
Anyway although it might be hard right now coz you already caught feelings for her but the best thing you can do is ghosting her and work on yourself and your game
Your mind will try to trick you to get better and raise your SMV so that she might see this and come back running to you but believe me this is a really toxic idea and you should erase this idea completely and forget about this girl for good
AlfredKinsey 4 years ago
Make sure you protect any belongings while she is leaving. Sounds like a level-headed breakup, but you can never be too careful. Store valuables elsewhere, maintain a watchful eye, get her key.
CasaDeFranco 4 years ago
She cheated most likely. 3 days is too kind.
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My LTR breakup a few years ago, I moved out the next day. She should too.
elf_knife_love 4 years ago
You don't own people, and you can rely on people that are weaker than you... that's a general rule in life, try to remember it next time.
dutchgguy 4 years ago
That must suck. I can't really give advice based on what you're saying. It just seems a tad unprofessional of her to date someone from work.
WakeUpAlreadyDude 4 years ago
I just want to give a quick bit of advice. You have to not focus on her or her actions, focus on your life and what you want. Your brain, dick and emotions will fuck you up, if you let it. I know. I had my wife of 5 years walk out on me and take our kid with virtually no warning. She told me in the morning and when I came home from work, she and her brother had taken all of her stuff from our place and my kid. It fucked me up for years. Don't focus on why she did it, it will destroy your soul.
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I'm almost fifty and it took me a long time to realize. She was just a stupid person who followed some temporary tingle fest. The guy she left me for dumped her and she had a shit time for ten years. She married some schlub who looks like her dad and made zero money (although she had a fair bit of mine thanks to child support).
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Don't dwell. Move on. They do.
AlfredKinsey 4 years ago
Forgiveness does not require an explanation from the perpetrator. What good does it really do you to hear, "this is why I betrayed you?"
Forgiveness/acceptance/moving on will come from within. Rely on friends, family, distraction, and ambition/purpose to help you get over this. Do not look to her for healing.
smirk_addict 4 years ago
I am no way trying to compare my shit to yours. But it's just a reminder of how women "love" and how these can serve as teachable moments. They can literally overwrite you like a hard disk. I met this chick a while back and I caught really bad oneitis. I thought things were going really really good. One day she just blocked me. A few days later she unblocks me and tells she wants to be with some dude who is buying her a house. Then she blocks me again. That's the short version. It was legitimately sociopathic. It has been 4 years since I had considered the idea of dating and this was the result. It's been over a month and that shit is still stinging me. This person has literally been apart of your life for 4 years. I can't imagine. I just want to say it seems to be apart of their nature and like most guys who come here, hopefully you can take solace in that you aren't alone dude.
cafeitalia 4 years ago
Do not ever live with a LTR unless you are married. That is the lesson one has to take out of this.
VasiliyZaitzev 4 years ago
Right, because imagine how much fun this would have been if they were married.
The real lesson is: Don't get married. Spin plates, have fun, and when it's time for you or them to move on, well, clean breaks are the best.
AceMav21 4 years ago
Is she on birth control. I'll put $50 on it she is.
SeasonedRP 4 years ago
I agree with the other commenters that this started some time ago and she has already slept with this guy. Many times, the girl will be a total bitch leading up to this and do things like start dumb fights over nothing and put a negative slant on happy times or events you shared. Here, however, it sounds like she was much more overt. When your head is clear, you'll recollect things out of the ordinary that she did in the past few months. Make a note of them for the future, and dump the girl when you again see that behavior repeated.
I understand the heavy drinking, but it's not going to help. Just don't do anything stupid and whatever you do, don't contact her. Delete her number and remove and block her on social media. And don't get drunk in public or go out anywhere drunk.
lolurfucked 4 years ago
she can be an angel but will drop you at a moment's notice if a better option comes along
stay strong brother
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