Being a medical resident and studying >60 hours a week made me hamster the need to pay a not so cheap personal trainer to train me two times a week at my gym while I workout alone another two times with a routine he prescribed. I was a skinnyfat piece of shit before that and I never took my physicality seriously. I'm probably lazy as fuck, who knows
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This has gone on for about a year and a half and I had good gains, probably newbie gains. I have never had any problems keeping a good diet with high protein content and I look better now than I have ever looked before. I am trying to cut right now and eating at a caloric deficit SUCKS
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There is a problem though
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I have been reading a lot about fitness since I discovered TRP two years ago. The problem is - this mofo has focused on machines and curls almost all the time and I hit a plateau on coordination, mobility, strength, conditioning and I don't really look better in the mirror than 4 months ago. I probably do bench press two or three times a month and it's been a month since I last did a good deadlift. Can't really remember the last time I squatted
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Is this a scam? I am thinking of ditching him so I could start following some routines alone lol

HurricaneHugues 7y ago
You should never pay anyone to train you unless its a Powerlifting/bodybuilding/strongman coach. Trainers are garbage and don't know what the fuck they're doing. They don't study bodybuilding or strength training to get their certification. All they study is muscle names, joints, and how the body moves. Theyre about as qualified to teach you how to lift as your 6th grade biology teacher.
You wasted your money on that clown. You would've been better off hitting youtube or coming here for advice. If youre not some old fuck with arthritis, you should be hitting your free weight compound movements and avoid machines. The good ole bread and butter around here is starting off with strength training to establish a solid foundation for muscle building. Start yourself off on a Reg Park Beginner 5x5. Run it for a good year and half, and THEN go for the bodybuilding stuff.
iskandph 7y ago
my finances thank you and your insightful comment
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gonna get a good look at that routine
HurricaneHugues 7y ago
You're not gonna nail everything on day one. It's all trial and error. Whenever you have the time, watch "how to" videos to learn how to execute the movements properly.
Never pay those gym clowns to train you, even if they're buff or even super buff. A lot of trainers are on steroids, and it's like taking a HUGE shortcut to looking athletof and all they have to do is the bare minimum to get results. Most don't know how to properly train or program, because they themselves just do a bunch of bro lifts and bro routines. Sometimes, the trainers dont even fucking lift and I see them giving real shit advice to people and shit programming. A pro tip I would give you is this: If you ever decide to be stubborn and still hire a new trainer, hire the trainer you see who obviously trains his WHOLE body and is enthusiastic about lifting. Somebody who's enthusiastic and can seem to go on and on about lifting with a smile on his face the whole time he's training yoj That's somebody who's committed. Most trainers I see just fucking dread their sessions with their clients, and they fucking suck. They don't encourage, they don't hype their clients up, they don't inspire.
zaze12 7y ago
Upvoted hard.
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BPasFuck 7y ago
Bingo.
OP-- did you start off with this guy doing more bench and squats, and he transition you over to this?
If the answer is yes, then you probably suck at lifting, and need to re-examine your form and other behaviors.
iskandph 7y ago
nope
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I usually do the same sucker lifts I used to do in the beginning
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and even if my form sucked he's paid to correct it
Slayerzyzz 7y ago
not really a scam he just sucks
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being a pt is more about looks and charisma
SuperCrazy07 7y ago
I have now used 9 personal trainers in my life. I would never say the first 8 were worthless, I showed up and lifted and definitely had more muscle and overall health than if I didn't have a trainer at all.
That said, my current trainer (competitive power lifter) is better than all of them combined. I had 8 straight trainers never have me touch the bar to my chest when benching. My squats weren't deep enough. Etc. Doing things correctly is hard, but worth it.
He has different programs (we're doing X for three weeks then Y, after which your max will increase by 30lbs).
I've always been above average strong - and like I said, I got some value just from having someone schedule sessions and stick plates on the bar. But, if you find the right trainer who knows what he's doing, it is a night and day difference.
WarViper1337 7y ago
I would ditch the trainer and save the money. There are lot of guides around here detailing good weight lifting programs. You really only need to hit the gym 3 days a week and make sure you set clear goals and stick to them. Get some fractional plates (1.25 pounds, and 2.5 pounds) and use them every time so you are increasing weight until you reach your goal. Just be sure to tune your diet to your exercise goals. If your cutting you won't gain muscle so you will need to level off your exercises until you reach your desired weight/body fat ratio. If your bulking your going to have eat more than usual to put on a decent amount of muscle in a reasonable amount of time.
SmackinDatAss 7y ago
Send /u/GayLubeOil a PM and hire him. Ditch the trainer.
failingtheturingtest 7y ago
What did you tell him you were after? If it was "I want to look better and be fitter, maybe lose some fat and gain some weight" or something equally washy, then he's achieved that for you and you can now move on. Either by telling him your goals have changed and you want him to update your program or by getting a new trainer
Machines and curls help you look good with your shirt off. Women like touching big arms, curls give you big arms.
Deadlifts have changed my fucking life, but they certainly don't give the obvious changes in aesthetics that come from doing isolation work.
Do yourself a favour, drop the PT for a few months. Grab a reliable routine that you know you can follow. I personally recommend nSuns 531 which you will find in r fitness. Then you can decide if you are improving more with him or without him.
atticusfinch1973 7y ago
This is what your trainer should be there to address. A good trainer will see the lack of progress and adjust the program, or constantly be using periodization to make sure that the long term goal is being worked towards.
If you've been stagnating for four months and they aren't doing anything about it then he's just sucking your money away and you should find a new trainer. Figure out what your end goal is and find a trainer who shows long term client results doing that (and can prove it) - not just some trainer at your local gym.
iskandph 7y ago
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exactly
BusterVadge 7y ago
Get going on free weights ASAP. The machines are forcing you into unnatural movements and you'll either get hurt or not make any progress after a while which is what it sounds like happened to you.
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TBH I think you would be better off ditching your PT and using that money to join a gym that's got free weights and guys who can check your form for you. Get on a good PPL program.
self-medicate 7y ago
Have you told him what your fitness goals are? If you mention interest in a trainer and the first thing they ask you isn't "what are your fitness goals" then stay away.
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looseonthemoose1321 7y ago
If you're considering ditching your trainer, then you probably should. :/
The issue is that you're going to keep doubting him and whether he's worth your money (which by you doubting him, he probably isn't). If he were worth what you were paying him, you wouldn't be posting this (given you're putting in the effort and discipline required to transform your body).
For where you are now, you don't need a trainer. A personal trainer is more of a luxury or for specific purposes only (body building, sports, etc.)
You could likely get the gains you want on your own if you're even halfway-knowledgeable about building muscle and such. No need to throw your money down the drain if you aren't using it for a specific purpose that you couldn't acquire on your own.
iskandph 7y ago
I have been doubting him for some months now actually
He kinda helped a newbie achieve a intermediate level I believe I'm at right now
But I feel weak, out of gas to keep going and I'm not really getting closer to my objectives
I have been reading so much about really efficient routines and how machines/curls overall suck when compared to compounds so I can't really trust the guy
looseonthemoose1321 7y ago
Well it's not a secret that compound lifts usually trump machines when comparing possible gains over long periods of time, especially on a newer lifter.
Also, everybody's body is different. Maybe the newbie has better genetics to build muscle than you, or maybe he just worked harder, you don't know. You can't really blame the trainer for that without clear evidence that it's solely his fault that you're behind someone who started after you.
You gotta make the decision for yourself, though. We could sit and tell you that you don't need a trainer and to do SS, but it wouldn't do you any good if you don't have the proper discipline and motivation to really bang it out properly.
Point I'm making is, if you feel he's not the right fit, then he probably isn't. That doesn't mean he's bad at what he does, but that he just doesn't work for you and what you're trying to do.
iskandph 7y ago
are you really on the right sub?
guys here are usually the passive-aggressive or straight up cunts
few people take the time to write good answers on askTRP, I thank you for that
looseonthemoose1321 7y ago
Lol, it's all good brother! A lot of great guys helped me out, so I just do what I can to give back :)
CalvinRichland 7y ago
You should ask your trainer why he's doing that. He might have a good reason.