Hello, 25years old male, girlfriend 22 years old. Dating 2 years and 8 months
Ill try to make this short. But my girlfriend has been pretty hidden about what she talks to one of her female friend "Roxanne".
Last night she left her computer open and i decided to sneak and see i know it's non of my business! But they both spend some time together, girlfriend goes to clubs maybe 2x a month, drive around the town 4-5x times a month with Roxanne. But like most girls do they talk about guys and other girls. (awalt)
But what i saw is that apperantly they know this guy "Chad Thundercock" which Roxanne knows better then my Girlfriend. But what i saw in the chat between them was this they where talking about him apperantly.
Roxanne: well Chad does have a nice body and nice dressing style!
Girlfriend: yeah he does.
Roxanne: Would you fuck him?
Girlfriend: Yes i would lol.
Roxanne: Why don't you?
Girlfriend: I have a boyfriend!
Roxanne: So? He wouldn't find out haha.
Girlfriend: Hehe. Maybe
Roxanne: I doubt it.. mine never did.
Girlfriend: heheh :p
This was it, but nothing else came the next subject was an hour later saying..
Roxanne: Yeaaa, You got plans?
It's like something is missing..
What should i do and feel about this? Normally i dont feel this insecure but having her female friend pressing on her to cheat on me hurts badly!

Yozki 9y ago
Jesus fucking christ mate
EDIT: There aren't even sides or opinions or options here but a single ONE.
Fucking hell
EDIT 2: How are you a member of this sub and allow your girl to go to clubs?
-ATLAS-_ 9y ago
Judge a person by the people they admire and the people they are friends with. For women, that's especially so.
Her friend is pushing her to cheat and telling her it's ok. You can't make someone not be friends with someone without being controlling, but you can break up with someone because they aren't good for you.
TeachMeTheWaysOfRP 9y ago
OP is getting anhilated in the comments.
chachaChad 9y ago
You snooped and found out shit you can't handle. That sucks. Even if you'd never read that e-mail, you still kind of knew this shit was going on, didn't you?
This is a clear case of the slutty friend enabling your gf to keep acting single. Your gf said she "would" fuck Chad not that she was going to. It's a game friends play, both men and women. Your gf said she "would" because she's not dead and is a sexual person and can tell that Chad is hot. So what? When Roxanne said "why don't you", your gf showed her commitment and seriousness she takes the relationship. She doesn't want to fuck Chad if it means losing you. That's good.
Roxanne is still on the CC and wants a friend to be there as well so she's encouraging you gf to join her. If your gf does, it makes Roxanne's behavior which Roxanne finds shameful on some level more acceptable. Roxanne is telling your gf it's OK to fuck Chad and that you won't find out. That's a really shitty thing to do and, over time, will influence you gf's behavior. It's only going to be so long before Roxanne makes sure it happens. She'll get you gf loaded and put her in the situation to be close to Chad and encourage her to do it. Fuck, she'll set it up with Chad and hold your gf's hand while she's getting plowed.
You gf wants to be with you but her friend and her inner hamster are pulling her to act like she's single. This is more than just a little ladies night out. They go to bars for male attention the way singles girls do. She's not driving around. That's her plausible deniability. Driving around mean she can do any damn thing she wants and tell you she was just driving around.
Your gf spends way too much time in clubs and "driving around". What the fuck are you doing all that time, sitting at home with your dick in your hand? She's looking around for her next step up the ladder and you're helping her.
askmrcia 9y ago
Your comment is what I agree with the most. It's the friend that's real issue here. And those Roxy girls are the worst because they ruin your relationships. I think this shit is pretty much over. Because Roxy is the type to keep bashing the OP to the girlfriend.
"Eww op does not do that for you? Really? Why you with him again? Chad can do that and more."
Or "girl you're only 22 you need to live a little. You only live once. No one will know."
Or "Chad is much better than op, I bet he fucks better too. Why aren't you with him again?"
Overtime that will influence the girlfriend and we see this happen literally all the time where that one slutty friend wants everyone else to be just like her.
M1ster_X 9y ago
I'm officially labeling all slutty best friends as "Roxy" now.
BestSC86 9y ago
The answer is right in front of you and tells us all we need to know....
The one question you have to answer which will shed light on your problem:
When your girl does all this going out with female friends trolling for guys, is she worried in the least about who YOU might be fucking while she is away?
The answer, of course, is a big fat NO....then you are the beta in the relationship and she is the alpha.
They are NOT talking about you and whether Roxanne wants to fuck you now are they? Your GF doesn't even seem that interested in fucking you so why would Roxanne.
It is only a matter of time before she finds a man who sets off her tingles, will have her and she will drop your unattractive ass.
About the only thing you have going for you at the moment is that she apparently is of such low SMV that Chad is not motivated enough to smash her pussy but some other lower SMV dude is likely to be willing and so is she.
Alphabetabetaboy 9y ago
Well she is worried a lot when i say "ok have fun" then later on i tell her "i went to my friend and we are going out for drive or drink" then she gets worried..
[deleted] 9y ago
Look at this dudes user name and he only has one post. This has to be a troll post
BusterVadge 9y ago
you misspelled "ex girlfriend". Chad and her friend are trying to get a threesome out of her.
blackpillguru22 9y ago
HARD...
NEXT
Peter_B_Long 9y ago
Dump her you idiot.
quicklogaccount 9y ago
There are two things to be said to you bro.
This is disgusting, isn't it? Every woman in the planet acts exactly like that, says exactly those lines and makes the same comments in order to get status with her female friends. If you dislike it you shouldn't be in LTRs.
BUT not every girl in the world has a Roxanne friend. Roxy there is the difference between your girlfriend looking into fixing your relationship when things go wrong or lubricating her patience with Chad's cum until she's empowered enough to slip away.
blackedoutfast 9y ago
yes this is the truth. OP's GF might be a decent girl, but roxanne is single and riding the CC and actively trying to fuck up the relationship because she wants her BFF to be her slut buddy.
yes_we_can_t 9y ago
Yeah, an LTR having friends like that would be an easy dealbreaker for me. Couple that with the rest of her shit it's just a waste of energy and resources to keep her as an LTR.
I'd demote to plate immediately if the sex is good, just hard next/ghost if not.
quicklogaccount 9y ago
I guess only "being friends" wouldn't bother me. Of course I'd avoid if a could but the number of girls with any LTR potential is just so low I'd take something like that.
Driving around every week and clubbing twice a month on the other hand is pretty hard to take. It just can't be solved.
MaxwellGaine 9y ago
Very good points - AWALT, but she won't usually do something "wrong" until she feels "given permission" by a friend or family member or TV show etc.
Frdl 9y ago
Girls don't need permission, they just need tingles.
MaxwellGaine 9y ago
If that was always the case then LTRs wouldn't make it past a day or two.
Some women are able to control their urges.
Doesn't mean they don't get the urges.
Doesn't mean they'll always keep controlling the urges, hence the AWALT warning of TRP.
quicklogaccount 9y ago
BULLSHIT.
Your ordinary woman needs encouragement, empowerment, support and someone to share the burden and the blame to fucking BREATHE.
While absolutely nothing can prevent a dedicated and attractive man to swoon a committed woman into bed with some investment, it makes all the difference in the world in a case such as OP's. You can read it as Roxanne lowering A LOT the investment chad has to make.
That gender bends by the way.
1NV0K3R 9y ago
you should immediately dump her cause you've never said anything similar to one of your friends right?
"watch what they do not what they say"
also, you've prob got some mad fucking dunning-kruger going on, most likely cause your in soft peach-mode beta land of 2 years and 8 months ("my gf will never cheat on me we've been dating 3 years!")
Alphabetabetaboy 9y ago
I have yes, but not on places where my girlfriend could read it, ive said it to my guy friends face 2 face.
soft peach mode beta land What ?
1NV0K3R 9y ago
The word normal people use is "complacent".
anusbleach11111 9y ago
Where are you from? I'm pretty sure I fucked your girlfriend.
wheresMYsteakAt 9y ago
Did she make some new faces and sounds she doesn't with OP?
fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck- 9y ago
Wants has no apostrophe.
Hiding stuff, even with another female, is typically a questionable sign. That female friend is the one they tell shit to, including who they're cheating on you with.
Sounds like they're either scoping for guys or fucking them already.
The conversation is kind of interesting. The "slut friend" (Roxanne) is trying to talk your girl into being a cheater, which suggests your girl is still good, so far. However, Roxanne + drunk girlfriend may be just enough for your girl to fuck up.
Alphabetabetaboy 9y ago
Yes, thats what makes me now insecure! That slut friend! She is also sometimes trying to get my girlfriend to hang out with her and some guys.
bltrm19 9y ago
She said we should maybe cheat on you, wants to hook up with the guy, and thought her friends cheating with this dude was cute, she is TRASH.
MattyAnon Admin 9y ago
She is willingly associating with a friend who is encouraging her to cheat.
It's over, accept it.
FuckboyAWALT 9y ago
Hard next that bitch without explaining. She doesn't even deserve to know why you next her.
Stop wasting your time with that bitch. Move on and block everywhere.
If you don't you have no self respect. Cuck.
JackGetsIt 9y ago
More guys need to do this when they next girls. This is more powerful then a lot of men understand.
FuckboyAWALT 9y ago
First of all that + they will use your explanation against you for instance you are so controlling blablabla and at the end of the argument they are the ones that did nothing wrong and you feel guilt (that happens to betas)
JackGetsIt 9y ago
Well said. There's just no closure for men. Any attempt to tie things up with women on the back end will just be used against you in women court!
[deleted] 9y ago
OP should at least have the self-respect to own the fact that he's a cuck and make sure he gets to be in the room with them /s
RPStone 9y ago
OP should also respect us and upload it to /r/hotwife
giantbollocks 9y ago
OP I prefer Powerade, dont bring me that Gatprade bullshit or ill smack you, cuck
daytonbull90 9y ago
Don't let the oneitis give her a chance, if it was you that told a friend you want to fuck some girl behind her back, how would she react?
If your SMV is high enough, this shouldn't look phase you. Dump her, don't give into the beta cuck feelings of feeling bad about dumping her, rip off the bandaid tonight if you haven't already. Get her shit out of your house tonight, drop it off at her place, change your locks if she has a key. Get ready for a rift, too, she's going to want blood if she's psycho, so expect slander at your workplace.
You did right in checking up on her, she would have cheated eventually and you would have been none the wiser. Good luck, man. Don't be a pussy.
econdweeb 9y ago
Seriously? Just dump her and move on or you'll be back here in 6 months with " my gf of 3 years cheated on me what should I do "
GreenPiller 9y ago
Roxanne you don't have to put on the red light Those days are over you don't have to sell your body to the Chad
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Alphabetabetaboy 9y ago
Her friend became single abour 1 month ago after 5 years.
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Alphabetabetaboy 9y ago
True, but it's like missing a part there.. from their converstation.
I wont bring this up.
LordThunderbolt 9y ago
Except Roxanne cheated on her boyfriend and acts like it's okay. Birds of a feather flock together. Going for a "drive" with Roxanne is more then enough of an excuse to get dropped off to Chef's place. Roxanne would do anything to cover OP's girl's tracks. They're both hoes.
OP needs to eject now
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GreenPiller 9y ago
True she hasn't fucked up yet but by the looks of it there is a 99% she will cheat on him. Better jump ship now boys.
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GreenPiller 9y ago
This isn't a maybe. There is a 99% chance she'll cheat on some point. Everything is already set. The beta boyfriend, the slutty friend, and the hot Chad. All she needs now is a little push.
LordThunderbolt 9y ago
Boy stfu. Stop your fucking nonsense. Instead of trying to be big puffy chest Chad who can't get cucked, OP needs to nip the relationship now and avoid further headaches. Waiting to get cucked before leaving is a fool's game. Chad would know he can do better and he would just leave the girl and go hang with another girl who would worship him.
OP's girl has a hoe best friend, that's all you need to know. He could be getting cucked and he would never know. Its best he ejects now.
Alphabetabetaboy 9y ago
Brutal but truth! birds flock together heard and seen it before
LordThunderbolt 9y ago
Bro trust me man, that shit is TRUE AS FUCK. You also hear the "You're the average of your 5 best friends". These sayings have existed since the dawn of man. Do not disregard classical wisdom.
You want to know who a girl really is? Look at her closest friends and look at her mom.
Alphabetabetaboy 9y ago
Never heard You're the average of your 5 best friends .
Time to save myself headache!
LordThunderbolt 9y ago
Don't explain anything to her just tell her it's over. Or you can just secretly denote her to plate status. Stop texting/calling her all the time, only text her to meet up to fuck at your/her place, start seeing other girls etc.
But I would just advise you to next her.
UnluckyPenguin 9y ago
Girls are not only similar to their friends but strongly influenced by them. Who's to say it would only be a 1 time thing.
On top of that the only reason is because she has a boyfriend. Not because she likes you more or has future plans with you. You are her accessory, like a purse or underwear.
FYI, top post in science right now is about incurable ghonnorea. Think about it.
GunsGermsAndSteel 9y ago
REDDIT I CANT FIND MY ASS WITH BOTH HANDS PLZ SEND HALP
fakeplastictrees87 9y ago
holy fucking shit, it makes my stomach hurt bad by just reading that... fucking unbearable... if she has respect for you she would ditch roxanne and if not at least tell her to respect your gf and you, you are in damn relationship.... wtf is this bullshitery.
Walkebe 9y ago
Your GF is at a time of her life where the partying scene is new and exciting. Her friends are like the girls in "Michael's Story". They are "finding themselves" (re: Riding the CC). Your GF is likely feeling intense internal/moral conflict about whether she is "missing something." She loves you. She is committed to you. But she sees and hears about the excitement her friends like Roxanne are experiencing and begins to wonder if you are "the right one."
Under the best of circumstances, your relationship is at a period where the footing is going to be rocky. But now you've got Roxanne, a remorseless slut, chirping in your GF's ear. Undermining you at every opportunity. Roxanne will nit pick your perceived flaws. She will cheerlead for Chad. She will actively sabotage your relationship.
You are in a near impossible situation. Attempt to root out Roxanne out of her life; you are the controlling, jealous asshole Roxanne said you are. GF "feels trapped" and "suffocated."
Do nothing and Roxanne's poisonous treachery continues unabated. Your GF clubs/parties more. The nights became longer. Her clothes more revealing. She doesn't answer your calls. Guys hit on her. Validation. Your life, by comparison, seems boring. Is she missing something?
Where does this lead? Possibly she cheats on you behind your back. Most likely, and she does sound like she defended your relationship, so I'd say, she comes to you before cheating and says "I need to take some time to find myself." You "take a break." She goes mostly silent for a month or two, while she fucks multiple guys. She calls out of the blue. She missed you so much. She's got your old sweatshirt. Can you meet to pick it up? She is wondering if she made a mistake? Should she get back to you? Most likely, she will say something like "she still loves you, but she's not IN LOVE with you." And then she tries to make you an orbiter for the rest of her life, while she goes and gets alpha males.
thetrpthrowaway 9y ago
NEXT
Archwinger 9y ago
Maybe your girlfriend cheated, maybe she didn't. Maybe she wants to cheat, maybe she doesn't and is just talking crap with her friend. Maybe she deleted messages to hide bad shit from you, maybe she didn't.
All of this doesn't matter that much. You're with a girl that doesn't respect you or your relationship.
And if you really want to know the measure of a girl, check out the friends she keeps. Girls worth making into a girlfriend don't have a bunch of slut friends.
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She doesn't respect you to even talk well about you behind your back, or condemn the cheating of this terrible friend of hers. She doesn't keep good company, and she's not LTR material. You know what needs to be done.
jb_trp 9y ago
You should not be in an LTR with a dumb girl who goes clubbing alone with her cheater girlfriend (who also jokes/encourages her to cheat).
F_Dingo 9y ago
Time to let go m8. The jig is up.
TRP321 9y ago
4 Options:
Start blatantly flirting with other women in front of her.
Demote her ass to plate, & fuck other women.
Hard next, & fuck other women.
M1ster_X 9y ago
4 isn't so much an option as it is necessary. He's gonna need some time to regroup.
mallardcove 9y ago
Without you?
Alphabetabetaboy 9y ago
Yes without me.
Girlfriend says i got no business going to clubs with them because it's only female friends with her.
My friend who is a bouncer can confirm that.
And drive around without me because she sometimes want to spend time with just her friend Roxanne
RPShitlord 9y ago
The bouncer probably fucked her, too.
exemptme 9y ago
Theres a girl with a bf in the town where i live. She sometimes comes over after the bar. She never goes out with her bf.
Girls who go to bars by themselves = RED FLAG. RED FLAG. RED FLAG
i know you may have the feels for her. You are her crutch, she acts like she doesnt need you, but she needs you more than you need her. Getting rid of her will be easier for you.
You know you've found a good one when they bring you food everytime they come over, or ask if you need anything from the store on their way over. She calls me master when i joke about putting a collar on her. She's still a plate though.
[deleted] 9y ago
Oh, like when roxanne takes her to see the guy fucking her up the ass, then discuss whether roxanne should get a turn too?
DadOnDabs 9y ago
Cuck. Leave her. You are obviously in her frame and have a lot of work to do.
niczar 9y ago
No wonder she wants to fuck an alpha.
DopeMeme_Deficiency 9y ago
Leave that cunt
Radioactivebuny 9y ago
RIP
fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck- 9y ago
Well, it's ok for a "girls night out" in the same way for you to have a "guys night out." Do you ever have that? Ever? Ever ever?
The main red flag here is Roxanne. Slut friends eventually talk their non-cheating friends into cheating, even if it's "just one dick."
vandaalen 9y ago
Not two times a month. She shouldn't be interested in going out without him anyways.
max_peenor 9y ago
When their night out involves doing what she did to try to land her a man it's a problem. You don't do the mating ritual if there is zero chance of mating. I have no problem with women doing their own thing, but it needs to be their own thing. Going to places where you look for sex is my thing, so if you are doing it without me, we are done.
Alphabetabetaboy 9y ago
Yes maybe 1x every 2 months..
Yes agree with friends can talk each other up!
mallardcove 9y ago
Women live vicariously through their single friends.
True and false. It's one thing if it happens every now and then, but it's clear the frequency of these girls night outs, is a red flag.
fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck- 9y ago
Well, yes. I agree that her friend is taking her out often in the hopes of having a friend slut it up with her.
Archwinger 9y ago
While you are correct that you shouldn't be needy and clingy and insist that you're with your girlfriend 24-7 and that she never goes out without you or has any friends without you present, because that would be retarded, it is definitely possible to go too far in the other direction.
If your girlfriend is acting single, she's not respecting you or her relationship with you. If she wants to go out for a couple of drinks with a female friend once in awhile, that's great. If she wants to go out clubbing all night long with her female friends and come back in the morning, that's acting single.
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Archwinger 9y ago
Maybe. Do you hit on girls when you're out all night drinking and come back in the morning?
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Archwinger 9y ago
When your girlfriend goes out, it's different. She can just sit there, and guys will hit on her. Often, that's part of the fun for girls when they go out. It's not directly their doing or their fault, so they can feel innocent about enjoying attention from other men and at least passively keeping half an eye out for any really interesting or exciting opportunities.
Even if your girlfriend doesn't do anything overtly sexual with someone else, should she really be touching other guys (even if the guys are the ones making the move), chatting them up, lightly flirting? Should she be deliberately putting herself in positions where this is the norm?
Even if she's trustworthy and doesn't do anything extremely wrong, it's disrespectful to you and to the relationship to be seeking out those kinds of situations.
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Archwinger 9y ago
I don't know all of the tiny details about your relationship. I just know that most non-ugly women that go out to a meat market location without their boyfriends or husbands get hit on. And that women who really respect their men and their relationship don't engage in behavior that looks even a little suspicious or inappropriate, even if they don't plan on doing anything wrong.
mallardcove 9y ago
You sound like a winner. Your girlfriend goes out about town to clubs twice a month and with her girlfriends to bars 4-5 times a month without you. Because you "have no business going with them".
Nothing is wrong here, nothing to see here, move along, this is fine.
Let me guess, you live together too.
Alphabetabetaboy 9y ago
No we dont live together.
What is wrong with not going with her to clubs? Because sometimes guys can be a stuck up too by being all up their asses 24/7.
No not to bars 4-5 times a month, for a car ride.. drive around and talk.
vandaalen 9y ago
This is about her and not you.
She shouldn't be interested in going to clubs without you.
Kommanderdude 9y ago
This. My ltr rarely goes out with friends and if she does I'm always invited. Now on the flip side, when I go out with my bros. she's always at home in bed with the dog.
bminuscplus 9y ago
With the dog?
Kommanderdude 9y ago
Yeah she let the dog develop the habit of sleeping in the bed before I met her. It's almost a deal breaker for me.
PunkYetii 9y ago
With the dog.
Mans_Right_To_Choose 9y ago
With the dog.
mallardcove 9y ago
It's one thing if she goes once in a blue moon without you. But twice a month without you? That's a problem. You think she is just going to these clubs to sit around and talk to her girlfriends? No, she is going to grind up on the dicks of the Chads there. THAT IS WHY WOMEN GO TO CLUBS. For the male attention.
I think you need to read this article by Rollo: https://therationalmale.com/2012/08/27/girls-night-out/
Basically TLDR of the article is that its a bad thing to get jealous if she goes on a girl's night out to the club without you. But if it becomes a pattern and a routine(which is the case here if she is doing it 2x a month) it means she doesn't respect you at all. If she respected you she would find no need to go on these girl's night outs without you. It's clear you are the whipped one in the relationship.
Yeah, sure. You can trust her on this, they aren't doing anything but just driving around and talking. On an unrelated note, I got some beachfront property in Nebraska that I would like to sell you.
Jesus, this is a red pilled sub. Do you think this is just some generic relationship advice sub? Have you ever actually read any TRP material?
Alphabetabetaboy 9y ago
You made a good point there!
I havent read any TRP material, but gonna read Best Of Rational Male 1-2-3-4-5 today!
numandina 9y ago
Read about dread, it's the only thing that makes an LTR work. The girlfriend will be too scared to go out without you.
Alphabetabetaboy 9y ago
Is that this?
mula_talks 9y ago
yes
mallardcove 9y ago
Never would have guessed.
I really question why so many people post here who haven't done any TRP reading.
Alphabetabetaboy 9y ago
Haha, since i guess you have read it, what would you suggest me to do when she says she wants to go downtown?
Am i too late to set them boundaries?
dr_warlock 9y ago
read the damn sidebar. for both askTRP and TRP. Then read the top posts of all time for each flair. Then ask questions.
mallardcove 9y ago
You are beyond fucked. You have been the beta bitch in this relationship for nearly 3 years, you really won't be able to salvage anything at this point. She sees you as her whipping boy, and if you tried to change course and become more of a man, it would be off putting to her.
This relationship is not salvagable, you have contaminated the well with your beta bitch behavior for 3 years. There is no undoing it. You are best off ending it, reading up on TRP, reprogramming your mind and then cultivating new relationships with new women with your new knowledge.
However I know my advice will fall on deaf ears and you will ignore it. You have deep oneitis here and think this girl is your special unicorn soulmate, so you will not leave her, you will continue to be her bitch because you have no other female options.
Leave this woman.
But in the future if it were to happen, ask to go along. If she has nothing to hide she will invite you along. If not just act like its no big deal, say "OK" and let her go. Ideally you will have run enough dread to this point and make it clear you have options to where she will think twice about it. If she respects you enough she wouldn't consider going without you.
Alphabetabetaboy 9y ago
Savage!! Damn man truth hurts!
But asking to go along on "girls out night" feels wrong!! Maybe because my Girlfriend has brainwashed me with it..
Btw about dread? I read the article the level 12 of dreads
LordThunderbolt 9y ago
Stay and get cucked, or break up with zero explanation and hard ghost her. Roxanne cheated on her bf. Birds of a feather flock together.
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question is: How hot is Roxanne?
RPAlternate42 9y ago
This is another faggot post.
"My girlfriend says she wants to fuck Chad and hangs out with her enabling friend 4 to 5 times a month at clubs and bars. Her friend encourages it and I think she might duck chad."
You're a faggot. You know the problems here so act on them.