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There was a post at the main subreddit. It was "I'm tired of guys wanting me but not wanting to date me".
I'm gonna do her a solid. I'm going to explain to her why guys just want to fuck her and don't want to date her. Sweetie, good old Uncle Al will set you straight and explain to you why you're little better than a piece of ass to most men. All this is true for almost all women who find themselves in this situation. It could be one, or more, or all of the following.
1) You're a slut. You're the town bike. Every other guy's already had a ride. You're shallow. The guys you're sexually attracted to and who you fuck are the kinds of men every other woman is attracted to. You fuck those guys fast in hopes of keeping them around, but because other women offer more than you, you can't keep them.
2) You're a bitch. You're mean, you're angry, you're bitter, you're difficult to deal with. You're too demanding. You expect the world from everyone, and you won't give anyone anything.
3) You're crazy. You're mentally ill. You have a character defect, a personality disorder, or some other kind of mental or emotional maladjustment that resulted from your genetics or some childhood trauma or neglect. Something somewhere in your childhood went very wrong and it's manifesting itself now in your conduct and outward behavior. Slightly related but a corollary: You're socially awkward. You're uncomfortable in your own skin. You don't know how to have relationships with people. You don't know how to act, you don't know how to be, you don't know how to let people close to you.
4) You don't look your best. You aren't looksmaxed. You're overweight (almost all the time this is more than half the problem). You don't have long hair. You don't wear decent makeup. You dress for shit. Your posture sucks.
5) You're unavailable. You have made it clear that relationships aren't important to you. You're too busy with other things. You don't give of yourself.
6) You hang around horrid, dysfunctional people. Your family is shit. Your friends and coworkers are shit. You hang around lowlifes, junkies, assholes, bitches, morons, criminals, shitbags, and mental cases.
7) Your life is in constant chaos and drama. Trouble, drama, failure, and chaos are all around you. Something is always wrong. You don't have enough money. You owe someone else money. You're constantly cash poor. This or that friend is talking shit, or you're talking shit about them. You are causing social media drama for them, or they're causing it for you. You live in a shithole. You drive a piece of shit that never works right and is unreliable. You can't hold down a job. You can't stay in one place. You are constantly losing this, replacing that, or taking care of the other thing. You can't go here or there. You don't have time for this or that.
8) You're a social media/OLD addict. Your entire life, and your own self worth, are based on the pixellated opinions of people you don't like or know. You can't get through a day without checking online. You can't put your phone down for more than 15 minutes. You have 8 different OLD accounts and they're the entire basis of your social life. You've been on 50 first dates and can't get to a second, because none of the men are "good enough".
9) You're an unmarried mother. You're a divorced woman with kids or you're a baby mama. Either you picked a good guy and drove him away; or you picked a shitbag and he took off. Either way, you fucked up the most important decision of your entire life - you did not or could not stay and make it work with a man you chose to reproduce with. And it's on you, because you picked him. This is important for two reasons: First, it shows you have shitty relationship skills. Second, it means your time and ability to develop and conduct a relationship with a man is severely limited. Cuz your children are your world, amirite?
10) You have no domestic skills. You can't cook, clean, or take care of a home. You have no marital or maternal instincts. Not only do you lack these skills, you show no aptitude or desire to learn them. You aren't a helpmeet. You're WORSE than not a helpmeet; your lack of ability in this regard makes you a liability. You are literally useless in a relationship. You bring literally nothing a man values to a relationship. Other than relieving sexual urges, you can't help him or improve his life in any appreciable way.
Because of the combination of items 1 through 10, all you really have to offer is a vagina. Most of us men know that because most women tell us they don't have to bring anything to the table. Because "I am the table!" Uh huh. You have no skills. You have no social graces. You have no personality worth having or knowing. You're unpleasant. So all you really have is a functioning reproductive tract. And because of items 1 through 10, and all I get is a vagina (if I will get even that), all you're worth is sex.
And that, my dear, is why men just want to fuck you and don't want to date you.
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Typo-MAGAshiv Mod 2y ago
Most of us are married, including me and the OP.
arguing with retarded overgrown children like you is a waste of time, so banned and muted.
oxyoxyboi 2y ago
To OP yr selection criteria will net you a single digit % of ladies and of course you gotta have the goods to show as well (richie rich chad dik boi). No one is perfect, the only advise i can accept is stay away from crazy and manipulative women. The rest well, we are all human
cryptothrow2 2y ago
Willing to do some of these things for some men, but not others. And being public and obnoxious about that
Overkillengine 2y ago
X) Your loyalty, past, present, and future are in doubt. You are either already married, or in a relationship, and blatantly looking for some strange on the side. Or you are dating multiple people at the same time, or have a history of serial monogamy/trading up. Which means no man with self respect will commit to you because he has no reason to believe you will do anything other than bail on him the moment things get tough, or you get a better offer, or just get bored.
Lameador 2y ago
Fantastic post. Must read for women, especialy for women who want to avoid a high speed crash into the wall. There is more female dating advice into it than in the whole rot/FemaleDatingStrategy sub.
If I may allow a bordeaux pill comment (aka red leaning on black) , women could read this and notice that if they are childfree, sincerely smiling with all of your pair of lips to a moderately succesful delta or self-aware gamma is a magic ticket to a workfree middle class lifestyle, house + safety + family included.
P.S : if you are a woman coming from a very unfavorable background, possibly third world, this advice stays valid. Sincerely partnering up with an emotionally available middle class western guy and giving an honest shot at making him happy is the golden fastrack to the American Way of Life.
Typo-MAGAshiv Mod 2y ago
Please don't directly link to other subreddits, especially misandrist shitholes like that one.
Edit out the direct link and reply to my comment, and I'll reapprove yours.
IsraelWentFullMGTOW 2y ago
The Bordeaux pill.....I like that
Nightowloldschool 2y ago
100% This
V_M 2y ago
WRT #4, women that go to the gym with me are HOT because we share a lifting hobby. I can't stand thin women who whine about me spending time at the gym instead of with her. Thin or not, sitting on the couch and whining about me spending time at the gym is not hot. Having a hobby of any sort more than "live laugh love" or eating, is rare enough among women to be exciting.
I'd add a #12 that some women try to be "one of the guys" but I don't want to date a guy. OLD profile that looks like a linkedin profile, WTF I don't want to bang my accountant. Don't as a woman post a masculine profile if you want to date straight males.
smackgoesthepaddle 2y ago
Bravo!
melonmagellan 2y ago
Number 3 is tough.
Idk what can really be done other than therapy and medication. I kind of agree with a majority of the comments on this sub but like... What is someone supposed to do about something they can't change?
Although, I guess nearly any woman can settle for a slob of a man. Most just don't want to do that.
InevitableOwl1 2y ago
It’s tough it so often ignored by the type of women who complain like this. Or even actively bragged about on dating profiles
butcheredalivev3 2y ago
This needs to be on the front page
MarBitt 2y ago
11) She is attracted to men who do lovebombing. They get into her panties quickly. As a result, she has a damaged perception of how dating should develop healthily, and requires exaggerated gestures from ordinary men, which drives them away.
InevitableOwl1 2y ago
I regularly see articles on love bombing suggested on my Apple news feed. I think there was even one on Christmas Day
I guess (since no one really cares about men) these are primarily aimed at women because it must be a well known phenomenon where many get sucked in by this. Of course both can. It’s arguably easier for men to as the gestures don’t need to be anywhere near as grand and the L world might not even be needed for said manipulation to actually be effective
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InevitableOwl1 2y ago
Exactly . My point is that it can and does happen both ways. But most articles I see very much seem to imply that women are the victims more often. But that is not a surprise I guess given how narratives work
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NoHetro 2y ago
I understand what you're saying but this comes off autistic as fuck, most women use makeup to some extent, and most are good enough to fool you into thinking they aren't, but those huge lip ungodly big ass sluts are disgusitng.
whyserenity 2y ago
Huge difference between using a little make up and slathering it on with a spatula.
CisgenderPig 2y ago
Hmmm... no, it is the men I fuck who are wrong for not seeing I am wife material.
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InevitableOwl1 2y ago
Some get lucky. I know a girl who is a massive monkey brancher and I am stunned the guy she is now marrying hasn’t spotted it
I’d have thought the kid with her multi millionaire boss who was still married with kids of his own would have been a give away
She is like you mentioned - moved to the big city after university and got into drinking and partying. Apparently she had lots of events with work that required it. The stress of this lifestyle and her unsuccessful chasing of chads led to her to start smoking as well. And she definitely aged faster than she would normally have done
There was a point we were talking and she seemed to be trying to find out recipes from me because clearly she was trying to transition to being a “housewife” type but likely rarely cooked in the previous 10 years
Still snared a guy though as a single mom. He moved her into a big house and seems to have a successful business. Single dad himself and below her usual looks and height standards.
She seems happy enough for now. I don’t actively wish for it fail but honestly can’t see it lasting more than 5-7 years. But if it doesn’t she will be in her 40s with 2 kids from two different dads (might be another but clock is starting to run out). She might be savvy enough to notice her options are limited at that point and stay where she is regardless of how happy she is. Who knows
I never really appreciated that the “stress” that caused her to suddenly start smoking (and smoking a lot) was not just from trying to manage the nights out. It was likely the old fashioned appetite suppressant (especially needed to offset alcohol calories). But the “new” one to me is that the “stress” was far more likely to have been from the cock carousel and how badly it was likely going (even if she wasn’t conscious of it at the time)
cryptothrow2 2y ago
Single dad may have less options.
Boar_excrement 2y ago
The truly sad thing is any Western woman that only had half of the above points would be considered decent by today's standards.
Gxl4 2y ago
Someone, give this man an award.
Newbosterone 2y ago
I am the table!
Ok. You use a table. When you are sated, you push away and wander off to enjoy your life.
Blackbarnabyjones 2y ago
THIS.
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A wise man once said "Bitch just because you get on all fours, doesn't make you a table".
mimiczx 2y ago
Amazing post! Simple and direct. Kudos.
FromIranWithHate 2y ago
Excellent post. Excellently worded too
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That's not how men are judged. Men are judged on their physical appearance and their ability to generate and marshal resources, not on whether they can make a nice souffle or how well they fold clothes.
cryptothrow2 2y ago
Men who do traditionally female work are perceived negatively by women (except straight feminists)
KoloGupta 2y ago
Such expectations come after a man has committed/married a woman and it's time to "share the household chores 50-50", as household duties are gradually offloaded onto the man and/or hired services and help for which he'll foot the bill.
These expectations are not relevant to women who can't secure commitment though.
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Fist_of_the_mad_gods 2y ago
I think he was replying to how utterly savage that was. Great post.
HephaestusRuin 2y ago
IMO this is the main one, as I have observed with almost every 8+ woman I've met over the last 4-5 years (professionally and my brothers' girlfriends/women). If you aren't banging them (and I mean actively at-the-moment banging them), they are almost unbearable to be with. Argumentative, opinionated ball-busters. Who wants to hang out with that type of person?
PirateDocBrown 2y ago
Even if you are banging them. Once the fun is done, I usually want to just get up and get out of there.
And lots of 6-7s are doing this too.
InevitableOwl1 2y ago
The 6s and 7s didn’t use to but their cavalcade of options from dating apps turned them this way. As they all assume they are at least an 8
It’s how you get scenarios where they flake on arranged dates after having nice talks in advance or just brush you off after one date because you don’t set their world on fire over a 30-60 minute coffee. Or even the ones who will just chat for an evening on a dating app for some attention and then disappear
And this runs from 6s up (obviously because I don’t match with legit 9s and 10s unless they are trying to hawk onlyfans without putting in any effort)
askmrcia 2y ago
You're absolutely right and it's one of the reasons why the apps absolutely suck for men.
You're competing with nearly every guy in your city for one girl. And the women will swear up and down that most of the guys on the app are trash.
I guess that true when a woman will use any excuse to move on to the next guy.
InevitableOwl1 2y ago
I had a long chat on an app on Boxing Day evening with a girl who was delighted that I wasn’t a guy who just sent her “
askmrcia 2y ago
Yup happens all the thing. I experienced the same thing numerous times.
That behavior just reinforces guys to act the way women claim they don't like.
Guys might as well try for sex on the first night or send "dtf?" as the first message to avoid getting strung along or used for their entertainment.
Women will say "not all of us do that". I say bs, enough of you do.
askmrcia 2y ago
Imagine how better the dating world would be had women actually had someone sit them down and talk to them like this?
KoloGupta 2y ago
They've all been told this at different points in their lives, but chose not to listen because YOLO. They only kinda, sorta listen-ish after the good life and preferential treatment are over.
Have you ever tried to talk sense into a woman?
Tidoooo 2y ago
Ouch. You done her dirty in the most eloquent formation. Respect Sir
DontBegDontBorrow 2y ago
Sex & pregnancy can be biologically taxing for a woman. The state, social programs & advancement in medicine took away the need for diligence when vetting for a partner.
Its easier for me to have raw sex with a girl i meet than it is to fully know her.
yoitsericc 2y ago
There is no need for all this. She answers her own problem in first sentence:
Who the fuck takes a woman seriously if she is jumping from guy to guy? Men know that women use one guy for dates and attention and another guy for sex so if we see a woman doing this, we know she is just for sex.
She is dating with zero intention, expectation or vision and getting mad when dudes just want to bang her.
Can't make this shit up.
KoloGupta 2y ago
Musical dicks.
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There is a nice copypasta regarding this:
You have no hobbies, no talents, no wisdom, no legitimate interests beyond your personal vanity, no original thoughts on politics, society, philosophy, or anything else. All you talk about is random celebrity dudes you have crushes on, your exes, and other shit that revolves around men or getting a man while sharing the most generic memes imaginable. What the fuck else is there to want from such a vapid shell of a person? Your only redeeming quality is that you can lay still and take a dick. Why are you surprised?
againstthe-grain 2y ago
Seriously every women I hook up with wants a damn relationship. They come over to my house (no date or meeting in public), quickly drop their panties and then act surprised that I don’t want a relationship. Just because I fuck you, doesn’t mean I want to date. Why would I want to waste my precious time dealing with woman’s chaotic nature? Like the saying goes, why buy the cow when the milk is free?
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They'll give up sex fast because either (1) they've decided you're not fit for a relationship; or (2) fast sex is a Hail Mary for a relationship.
againstthe-grain 2y ago
I’m so dead inside from divorce that it’s dangerous to assume I’ll ever want a relationship. I even tell them this! And then they want me more.
NoonTimeHoopsMVP 2y ago
A female friend once asked why the hot guy she slept with wouldn't commit. I bluntly told her "why would he commit when he is getting the only thing he wants for free?"
She didn't talk to me for a year.
Now she is a good relationship with a decent guy. She learned her lesson. Most don't.
cryptothrow2 2y ago
Did she admit her mistake after talking with you?
KoloGupta 2y ago
Never! At best, she conveniently forgot about it.
NoonTimeHoopsMVP 2y ago
Not really. Which is why our interaction is now limited to her sending an occasional Snapchat.
againstthe-grain 2y ago
Sounds like a great friend to break off a friendship for being confronted with a harsh truth
Futureman999 2y ago
She's dating out of her league even if she won't admit it to herself. Probably at least a little bit fat, but Tinder being what it is she can pull tall, fit guys while being not much herself. Yes they linger a while to get sex, but they're doing that with five other girls.
Sooner or later they hook up with some of them, but since they have to work so hard with so many to get anything at all, after a while they don't really care and it's just a game. Treat someone like they're not special long enough, and they're going to treat you and all the rest like you're not special either.
RealMcGonzo 2y ago
LOL. What a stellar example of the full power of hamsters. She's not easy. She doesn't put out. It's just that **all** these guys do some voodoo shit that makes her drop her panties. It's not her fault.
Moldy_Gecko 2y ago
I remember looking back at the first realization I made in TRP. I met a girl, she asked me to come home with her and as we left the taxi, she said "no sex" and I didn't. I never heard from her again. The no hookup shittest is real, but is almost never enforced by the girl. I felt so dumb my whole life for not understanding shit tests. That knowledge alone changed me from never scoring to getting a gross amount of ass. We all want sex, men and women, they just don't want the stigma of it, so they hamster and claim we got that voodoo. But maybe we do. Knowledge is power afterall.
RealMcGonzo 2y ago
Not worth beating yourself up about it. Society heavily reinforces a jaw dropping amount of lies. You were literally brainwashed. Hell, I still suffer from the effects, despite a lot of reading and practice. Watching TV, movies, reading books, all that stuff makes you think the way to score sex is:
1: Find some chick you really like.
2: Make her like you as a friend.
3: Make her fall in love with you.
4: SEX!
Nothing else matters at all according to this narrative. If she's married, gay, hates you and is a model on the other side of thee country, it's no big deal. All that matters is that you like her. Shrug off the bad stuff and massive red flags then go win her, you pussy says society. Until you get arrested, anyway.
Moldy_Gecko 2y ago
Haha. Luckily, I learned. My life is golden now.
cryptothrow2 2y ago
Any link to a shit test compendium?
cryptothrow2 2y ago
Any link to a shit test compendium?
Moldy_Gecko 2y ago
I did a half-assed google and got this, maybe it'll help.
https://illimitablemen.com/2014/12/14/the-shit-test-encyclopedia/
LandscapeClear1630 2y ago
Abracadabra bitch, and her legs spread.
Gxl4 2y ago
I sneezed, and poef! my clothes were gone!
Overkillengine 2y ago
They pretend Chad has Magical Dick that apparently removes their free will to say no, and hope that they have a Magical Pussy that will keep Chad around.
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One of the questions from the Its complicated channel is 'Why do women think they have a golden pussy, when every women has one?' The answers were more or less ya everyone has one but it ain't golden. Most women really do think that highly of themselves.
polishknightusa 2y ago
In answer to your question, my hypothesis is that even as women complain that "I wish unattractive men wouldn't hit on me", these men nonetheless validate her self-worth and value. I felt a similar reaction, I remember almost as if it was yesterday, 41 years ago when an unattractive girl at school wrote me a love note. I wasn't interested, but man, I was on cloud 9 for months. I remember it to this day. I feel bad now about how I reacted at the time but my point is that being hit on is a huge deal.
I never imagined back when dating apps started that men would "hit" on thousands of women in dating apps not realizing the tremendous damage they were doing to their chances. It's like a tragedy of the commons in environmentalism: If you chop down as many trees as you can before everyone else does, you profit, but once that becomes the norm everyone suffers because there's no more trees. PUAs caused a similar problem: Hitting on dozens of women an evening has this almost exponential effect of transforming entire regions of women into entitled, delusional princesses where even if they aren't hit on directly, they hear about how thirsty men are.
Some genius in game really needs to come up with a method that doesn't involve hitting on dozens of women to get a single bite because this is toxic. For the record, just out of spite or to set my own frame, I actually threw some women out for the heck of it via my own shit tests which shocked the hell out of them. Imagine if more men did this, even in a limited fashion.
Consider why some women offer to pay their own way, with a disgusted look on their face, when the date hasn't gone well and they don't want to see the guy again. Is that due to honor and basic decency on her part OR.... is it because she fears that some jerk will call her up the next day and say "Hey! I paid for that date! Why aren't you going out again with me?" and she doesn't want to hear it. If all men were "nice guys" and paid and didn't call them again after she said she wasn't interested, these women would engage in all kinds of tricks to still get the man to pay and dump him afterwards.
moorekom Mod 2y ago
The validation you feel is proportional to the attractiveness of the person hitting on you. You might be OK with getting hit on, but you might not want the world to know it. This is the same as a Chad dumpster-diving for a night.
polishknightusa 2y ago
While I see your point that getting hit on by someone attractive certainly is more powerful validation than getting hit on by someone less attractive, I quibble with your claim that they don't want the whole world to know it. Women talk all the time about how they are victims of being "hit on" by "losers beneath them" even as, and this is the funny part, logically us men understand that our SMV is based upon the average attractiveness of those hitting on us but for women, they make themselves out to be victims of logic. A woman 5 getting hit on by 100 5's thinks of herself as an 8 because she got hit on by 100 men, period. She then is a victim of all those men hitting on her.
On the other hand, I don't regard myself as a victim by getting hit on by the unattractive girls at all because I feel SYMPATHY for them, not entitlement or victimhood for myself.
I was reading one woman's account of how tough it is to reject men she doesn't find attractive because she looked like the bad guy for doing so. She didn't have sympathy for them but rather only for herself. My cat has more mercy for the chipmunk she dragged home a few weeks ago...
LandscapeClear1630 2y ago
That's exactly it.
And can be created on the spot if you know what you're doing.
moorekom Mod 2y ago
I was just savvy enough to bring social game to cold approach after realizing that most girls will use you for their entertainment at that moment. I had better outcome when I started opening conversations for fun with everyone (at that point it was not PUA cold approaching) or when I was opening a group. The crowd can bring in connections and expand your network whereas the girl is going to be flaky if you chase her. Women do not want to get what they can have and when you chase her, you are telling her very clearly that she can have you. There is no challenge in it and most women will not be interested in the slightest.
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moorekom Mod 2y ago
Yes. The best way I've heard it described is that a woman is like a kitten playing with a yarn of wool. As soon as it catches the wool, it loses interest. There is also a corollary to this. You cannot be too unobtainable. You should place yourself at the sweet spot where she feels comfortable enough to chase you. She has to start by qualifying herself to you and as you warm to her, she will invest more and fall in love.
Yes, quantity also matters. But it rarely matters as much as quality.
LandscapeClear1630 2y ago
Living a life full of mating privilege does that to you
... until they hit the wall.
mustangfrank 2y ago
Well written words and all true.
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Dazzling-Importance1 2y ago
But they will stay single cause they have no tingles
LandscapeClear1630 2y ago
Yeah, but those are the men she doesn't want cus "she deserves better".
moorekom Mod 2y ago
Read Rule 1.
RealMcGonzo 2y ago
A major reason is women reaching up the ladder. She wants a "relationship" with the hottest men that'll fuck her. Men'll reach down the ladder (way the fuck down in some miserable cases) for a quick and easy fuck. So the hottest men that will fuck her will never LTR her up, by definition. They don't want their friends seeing her. They don't want their parents thinking he's banging her. They SAF don't want the super hot chick to see them slumming it up.
Mundane_Worldliness7 2y ago
Yep, for women, the best she can do concerning a relationship is to go with the most attractive guy who will commit and NOT the most attractive guy who will fuck. Circling a group of Chads at a tailgate, and finding the drunk, depressed, lonely, horny and unwell one during a time of weakness doesn’t mean said guy will date you (or even want to be seen with you).
I-am-the-lul 2y ago
If the average chick could see the ugliest woman that a Chad they were interested in has ever fucked, they would be horrified, possibly enough to be turned off by him.
Women say that men shouldn't have standards, but if they realised how low many men will go to moisten their dicks, they would start demanding that men should have SOME standards otherwise it would make those women willing to sleep with the Chads feel even cheaper than they do already.
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^(EDIT: Added the 'if' to 'but they realised')
InevitableOwl1 2y ago
From what I see on line there are plenty of women who bitch about how low some men’s standards are
The issue I believe then becomes one of:
them being angry that despite this the Chad they want hasn’t dropped them low enough for the woman doing the moaning
they have such a high/over inflated opinion of themselves that they don’t even consider they are in the “lower tier group” that some of these guys scrape the barrel for
This latter one is the most laughable considering women do the same thing but not on looks but character. When it comes to sex they will sleep with the most awful of people in terms of how they treat them IF they are are hot enough . And some will even try to keep them as they are getting battered by them and/or cheated on
So they are allowed a disconnect but men aren’t.
Zcuzz 2y ago
I've been the dude in that situation. Don't want to get caught picking the low hanging fruit. Sometimes you just need to fuck a freak bitch and have a little fun. No way in hell you're gonna parade that hoe around like a trophy. It's bad for your image.
Mundane_Worldliness7 2y ago
Proud to say I’ve never agreed to it, no matter how drunk I have been. I’ve been pursued and nigh felt up (while in a drunken haze before), I’ve never understood my bro’s who could lay down with dogs.
askmrcia 2y ago
My cousin, older brother and one of my best friends will sleep with women I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.
And to them it's all the same. It feels the same and they just want to get their rocks off with minimum effort.
Now these guys have scored decent looking women at times, but if a fatty is throwing it at them, they will not turn it down. It can be too much work to score a 7 and higher.
Plenty of guys are like that. They like the easy ones. I say all the guys I know that have high n counts, a lot of those women are 5s and lower. Ofcourse they are not bragging about the 5s, they brag when they have a better looking woman.
KoloGupta 2y ago
There is nothing pleasurable about a fatty, in my experience. They give me ve very good head, but that doesn't make up for them being revolting.
Mundane_Worldliness7 2y ago
Honestly, why sleep with a woman who’d you’d be humiliated to be seen with in public? A woman who, if she posted on your Facebook the next morning saying she had fun, would cause you to delete your social media out of shame (yes, I’m talking about real cases).
Typo-MAGAshiv Mod 2y ago
To get your rocks off.
I did it once, and I regret it to this day. It's a fun story to tell, but the experience was not a positive one.
askmrcia 2y ago
I hear you and you're right.
But a "wet hole is a wet hole" as my cousin would say.
Zcuzz 2y ago
In her defense, she was a lot of fun and a really good lay. There was chemistry, I actually really liked her. She was smart, a good cook, and had a green thumb, cooking with her own grown veggies. She could skateboard and punch out the glass containing fire extinguishers in a single punch at 4'11".
She just needed to get her broken ass teeth fixed and not be such a wild ass drunk and I could've gotten past the flat ass and A cups.
ZarBandit 2y ago
Number 4 should be number 1. If she’s not size 4 or less, or weights more than 120lbs, then stop. Go straight to fat jail. Do not collect $200. There’s no need to read any further.
ZZT-OOPsIdiditagain 2y ago
I had to relax my limit of 160 pounds (my then-current weight) because it filtered out everyone even close to my age but the 18-20 cheerleader types who were totally unapproachable by non-Chads unless you could massively betabux your way past that requirement.
The feminine weight problem has gotten THAT bad.
ZarBandit 2y ago
And who wants to wife up someone 20-40lbs overweight when it’s all downhill from there?
Fit, feminine and friendly. A women lacking those qualities are the equivalent of a man lacking a job. No one marries that unless they are a loser themselves. But they might hit it for a while.
InevitableOwl1 2y ago
And I thought my 140lb limit was brutal. That just comes from using English “stones” in that a woman should never ever be in double digits (think I read that here)
ZarBandit 2y ago
Yeah if there are genuinely tall women - around 6ft then they likely go over that. But for most avg height women 5’6” that’s the correct weight. If they’re short, we might be talking 110 or even 105 for 5ft and under.
gfgdhj5784yu8 2y ago
Dating involves making a long term investment in a woman and modern women are not worth a man's time, money and thought in this relationship bear market.
biccat 2y ago
Because they can.
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Typo-MAGAshiv Mod 2y ago
Not even close
Banning your sorry ass from this one, too.
SeparatePicture 2y ago
Why would I milk a cow when I can just buy milk from professional cow milkers?
ZZT-OOPsIdiditagain 2y ago
Or get free milk with a little luck and effort?
The cow doesn't have to be smart or pretty, milk is milk...
Balefirez 2y ago
Because she has allowed it to happen. She has said yes to all these men. All the men she said yes to got what they wanted and didn’t have to give anything (i.e. a relationship). She could have set a higher price for herself, but chose not to. She has no one to blame but herself.
GoMake_me_a_sandwich 2y ago
Her next idea will be to start over. The next guy will have to commit first. She will say 'No.' He will have to wait, and work for it. She will think it will make it more meaningful. He will be a good guy and good men wait 3 months. But she ignores her past. Her partner number so high she likely doesnt even know how many men she was with. Men before got her easy. They got her at her best in her youth and in her desire for them. She wants her past to be forgotten. But the nice guys are arent accepting that anymore and realize thats all shes worth.
KoloGupta 2y ago
It's not her fault. She was walking down the street one afternoon, on her way to her grandma's house, when she tripped and landed on a dick. The same thing seemed to keep happening over and over again.
She knows her worth, but accidents happen.
Balefirez 2y ago
Right, I forgot. She gets a pass, then. She can’t be held accountable.
KoloGupta 2y ago
Correct. Nothing is ever women's fault.
FormerBTfan 2y ago
Well honey just wait till they don't want to fuck you anymore either that time is also coming for you in the not to distant future.
InevitableOwl1 2y ago
Yeah these articles never quite go this far so they. Lamenting being wanted only for sex is one thing. But can they imagine being wanted for nothing. Like, oh right, the majority of men
loneliness-inc Mod 2y ago
Good post, but I disagree with the following point.
Yes, being overweight is a problem, but it isn't even close to being half the problem. It certainly isn't more than half the problem.
Many slim, pretty, hot women - are having the same difficulties finding a husband.
Many overweight, plain Jane women - can find a husband without a problem.
Why?
Because us men aren't as shallow as women would like you to believe. Looks actually aren't everything in a marriage.
Your average woman is an entitled, mean, nasty, demanding, criticizing, cajoling, manipulating, tantrum throwing, brat. These traits repel men from coming close and push away the ones who already were close.
Your average woman has a dull personality and there isn't much that's interesting about her in your post nut clarity. If this was her only flaw - men wouldn't care too much, but on top of all the rest, this is a big problem.
Your average woman already had sex with many men. The pussy she's offering to you has been visited by many men before you. There's nothing special or intimate about sex with her.
Your average woman isn't nearly as interested in sex as you are and she categorically refuses to meet you in the middle. She expects your sex drive to fully conform with her moooooooooooods. She expects you to have the responsibility of wooing her and chasing her, while she maintains the authority to accept or reject your advances. Over time though, she turns into more and more of an ice queen. Requiring bigger and better circus tricks to pique her interest.
Notice that all of these flaws exist in most women today and that's without even being fat or a single mother!
OTOH, plenty of overweight women have no problem finding a husband. This is especially true in patriarchal societies. Many of the wives are not exactly in the best shape. This doesn't seem to be much of a problem.
Because men care more about how a woman treats them, than about how she looks. Men would rather have a plain Jane wife who is interested in him sexually and otherwise, who treats him like her hero and who looks up to him with admiration - than to have a boring, entitled, ice queen of a supermodel.
Therefore I say no. Being fat is not more than half the problem. It isn't even a quarter of the problem. It isn't even much of an actual problem altogether. All it amounts to is that if there were two women who were the same in every other way - you'd choose the non fat one.
But in the actual world, millions of men have married overweight women since time immemorial and to this very day. This isn't actually an issue for most men. It's merely a preference.
polishknightusa 2y ago
Good point. I would add that being overweight is a problem IN COMBINATION with demanding the man being a top 10 percenter in looks and thinking that's what a "normal" man looks like.
20 years ago, there was a film "Shallow Hal" where Jack Black portrayed a pudgy guy who wanted to pull down hot girls at the local disco. This is the opposite of modern reality as we all know. If a guy is top 10 percent in looks, such a woman doesn't require effort to get turned on by him but that guy has choices.
This ties into personality a bit: I went on dates with such women and they treated me like I was the garbageman. I was equally repulsed by their attitude but here's the thing: even if I was as good looking as they wanted, would they be able to turn on genuine charm to keep a guy like that around? There are guys out there who treat other men like dirt and don't mind women treating normal men badly, but eventually, what about when he needs to rely upon her for something? A person's character is how they treat vulnerable people or "Watch how she treats the waiter because that's you in about 10 years."
applecider5114 2y ago
I believe what the OP meant being overweight is "more than half the problem" in regards to looks, not more than half the problem of the woman overall.
moorekom Mod 2y ago
Well said.
loneliness-inc Mod 2y ago
Naturally
PirateDocBrown 2y ago
If you date men with lots of options, don't be surprised when they treat you as optional.
Her best best is to shack up with her favorite orbiter. Pluck one out of her friendzone.
InevitableOwl1 2y ago
Eww. How my-soggy-knee-static ! She is a kween and all those men are their for a reason don’t you know! None of them deserve sex despite how well they treat her! Even if is better than any of the guys she actually sleeps with by a considerable margin! Don’t be ridiculous! That would be “settling” for, um, reasons…?
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InevitableOwl1 2y ago
And imagine trying to explain this to a woman. Even the most mild and rationale one will go red in the face and absolutely lose their shit. I know because it happened to me with a friend
And I wasn’t even as blunt as the comment above. I approached it more indirectly
They go mental and refuse to see it as a double standard.
NoonTimeHoopsMVP 2y ago
This right there is the crux of the matter. Many men are waking up and realizing if why stick around if those are the terms? Why pay $100 for a fancy dinner to only receive a reluctant good night kiss when Chad has her come for no effort?
The reasoning of "you are special and unique" isn't cutting it any more.