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Loneliness-inc Mod 3y ago
Gentlemen, let's stay focused.
Yes, we know that.
The difference is that when a man cheats, there are real life consequences. When a woman cheats, there aren't many or any real life consequences.
In the comments, this man was being told that he's still the dad (read: still responsible) to these children.
HE DOESN'T KNOW WHETHER THEY'RE EVEN HIS CHILDREN!!!
A woman can lie, cheat and spermjack all she wants. What will happen to her - nothing at all or nothing much.
A man can be an upstanding boyfriend or husband and father. When he finds out that the children aren't even his, what happens to him -
He will have to pay alimony to a cheating whore and child support for the bastard children that aren't even his. If he can't pay - regardless of the reason - he will go to prison!
That's the difference.
Unfortunately, I can't share the comments without extensive censoring work, so I'll assume that you've all seen this play out IRL.
Initial-Glove 3y ago
But this isnt about cheating. It's about having a whole ass relationshit during the time of this one AND having 2 kids behind it. So whoever is saying that is just an idiot.
Huge difference between one indiscretion and what this bitch did. I'm not surprised that someone defends her, though. Ppl are stupid.
Loneliness-inc Mod 3y ago
You too missed the very point that I was pointing out!
Details. Semantics. Personal values. Whatever.
To you there's a difference, to someone else there isn't. Who cares?
The sentiment that "men cheat too" is the very sentiment that you are propagating. You're so caught up with the details of this specific relationship that you completely overlooked the gendered point I made in the previous comment.
Initial-Glove 3y ago
Yeah. Menz cheat too. Who gives a shit. Womenz cheat too.
This one specific menz didn't, so making this about men or woman as a whole is the work of retards.
We can do absolutes all day but absolutes don't fit here, do they?
So whoever said
Is an idiot
Loneliness-inc Mod 3y ago
Yes, they do.
For several reasons, I couldn't share the comment section in which this poor guy was being told to man up for the sake of the children.
Would a woman be given the same advice?
No. She wouldn't.
And that's what's being pointed out.
aldabruzzo Mod 3y ago
This story has played out over and over. Don't ever think that your girlfriend or fiancee or wife hasn't gotten fucked like this before just because you haven't seen photos or video. She has. They are all sluts. All of them. Either the pictorial proof doesn't exist, or you just haven't seen it. The fact remains that she's gotten fucked like this before.
The point is not to make sure she avoids it. You can't do that. The only thing you can do is make sure you don't pay for it.
This man has the chance to escape financial responsibility. He isn't married to this woman. The children aren't his, or at least there's doubt. Here's what this man should do, and here's what YOU should do if this ever happens to you:
--cut ties with this woman immediately. Sever all financial, emotional, and living entanglements without delay. This woman gets not one more dime of your money.
--review the children's situation. Regardless of anything else, get DNA tests on the kids. If you put your name on their BCs as the father, and you've been supporting these kids, well, you're fucked. You ARE the father, even if you're not. But if you don't support them and your name isn't on the BC, there's a chance. Get the DNA tests and a lawyer. File a lawsuit to establish nonpaternity. Name the mother. Drag her name in public. Shame her relentlessly. Tell anyone who will listen what she did.
--get back to that laptop and download the videos and pics. Find all you can. Keep them. Make sure she knows you have them in safe locations.
--tell everyone why your relationship is over. Pull no punches. Tell everyone who will listen. Sit her parents down and explain it all to them. Show them the video. Show them stillshots from the video.
Shame this woman from top to bottom, from east to west. Make sure everyone in her life knows why her idyllic life has come crashing down. Because she's a liar, a cheat, and a whore.
Loneliness-inc Mod 3y ago
If you get married, you're paying for it. If you don't want to pay full price for used goods, don't even consider marrying a non virgin.
This is good advice. However, the state will likely consider him to be the father regardless of what the DNA test says.
Typo-MAGAshiv Mod 3y ago
Meta note:
a reminder that our first rule of both our subreddit and our forum here is NO SHAMING MEN FOR ANY REASON. The man in this particular situation is the victim. He's a victim of the conditioning we've all received in the gynocentric Matrix. He's most likely fixing to be a victim of family court if he changes his mind about supporting the kids no matter what the DNA tests say. And most of all, he's the victim of a lying, cheating, whore. Any comments we see shitting on him will buy the commenter a ticket to Bansville.
moorekom Mod 3y ago
Is it exclusive if it gets cross-posted?
Typo-MAGAshiv Mod 3y ago
Fuck! I copied and pasted my comment from the removed post without rereading it first because I'm busy IRL and lazy online!
Initial-Glove 3y ago
No one would shame this man. The shame falls on that nasty girl and she needs exposed, when he's ready.
Hopefully he gets a lawyer and sets up untouchable accts for the inevitable child support to be placed, so she doesnt see a penny.
Typo-MAGAshiv Mod 3y ago
There are lots of (mostly newly) Red Pilled dudes who will try to shit on him and say he wasn't alpha enough, and call him a cuck for wanting to remain involved with the kids even if they turn out not to be his.
Initial-Glove 3y ago
Sorry. I meant non autists wouldn't shame him. Should have clarified.
He sounds alpha to me. Takes care of his own, got his own. Almost beat up his dad-- true sign of an alpha lol..
A cuck would be if he tried to stay with the whore. A man cares about kids he was told were his. They're the ones truly losing here, bc of good ol mom. She ripped the security right out from under them. Yeah, grandparents have money but how long will they live? And mom will blow every dollar of any inheritance. Guaranteed. Seen it done. The girls need dad to show them how to be a woman bc mom doesnt know how.
Shit. He's gonna be paying anyways. Might as well at least try to get his money's worth and continue to invest as much as he can before the slag puts the blocks to it, which we all see coming a mile away.
moorekom Mod 3y ago
Too much emphasis is placed on "alpha" in the manosphere and most of it is because of insecurity and seeking validation. This guy is a good man. But, the kids did not lose. I would argue he lost the most, since he did not walk away and he intends to take care of them even if they are not his. Where is his reward for that? Why would any man follow on his footsteps?
Initial-Glove 3y ago
Wasn't really expecting this to be as bad as it was. I do feel bad for the guy. This is a terrible thing to have happened. Here he is thinking that he's found a good woman, but she is a skank. Mom vetted this woman, ffs!
She's only upset bc she got caught. And telling her parents won't have the effect you think. They will take daughter's side. They know she's a nasty whore, that's why they tried to set her up with a decent guy. He'll be the bad guy and they'll work over time to gas light and lie about her actions.
Best of luck to him. He's still young. There's still good women out there, somewhere.