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SmallHandsMallMindS 2y ago
Women claim to have 'high standards' then go after the biggest douchebag you can find. Dont take what people say at face value
polishknightusa 2y ago
I didn't want to register in the other forum (yet) so will comment here.
I like what the author is saying because it's something I thought about myself in that the terminology for how women describe their standards as "high" are actually "shallow." As if a man saying he only wants to date supermodels are "high" standards. This terminology allows her to escape the moral consequences of her demands: She makes shallow demands of men and then accuses the men of failing to live up to her standards when in reality, the men did. If her primary standards were looks and money, and the guy brought those, but cheated on her, then he did meet her "high" standards.
It just turns out her "high" standards weren't very high.
"High standards" include integrity, work ethic (not necessarily reflected in money), kindness, empathy, emotional maturity (as reflected by a sense of humor), and certain religious and family values.
Therefore, it's amusing that these women select for everything EXCEPT for those types of high standards in a mate.
michael1962-01 2y ago
6'4 and 480lbs deadlift @6% bodyfat trumps integrity and work ethik in her brain. Throw a mascular face in and a harley and she'll change her high standards according to her Gina tingle feels
MrNeurotypical 2y ago
I think it's hilarious because every red pill guy knows this and uses it to pump and dump them.
houseoftolstoy Mod 2y ago
As the author of that post, thanks for your input. The purpose of the other forum is that it will be a place where we will still exist even if we are no longer on here for some reason. So as long as you are aware of that, there is no problem.
polishknightusa 2y ago
Thanks for explaining that. I'll keep it in mind.
Beautiful_Dust 2y ago
Huh. I'm a woman. I believe my standards are high, but reasonable. Those are as follows: intelligence, maturity, a great sense of humor, kindness, compassion, honesty, loyalty, good morals...not necessarily in that order. Looks mean nothing. A man who has a beautiful heart will always trump someone with model looks. Looks fade with age, but a beautiful heart is forever.
Ok_Management4634 2y ago
Well, congratulations, looks like you have your head on straight. Most women do not, and their main selection criteria is looks/height, followed by money and influence.
[deleted] 2y ago
Talk's cheap, lady.
MrNeurotypical 2y ago
And the only way to know that is to form a friendship and get to know him but that can only happen if a woman is friendly. I swear some of these modern women are so unfriendly. Oh well, not my monkey, not my circus.
Creldi 2y ago
Very astute observation and very nicely worded too.
Should they ever consider the possibility of taking a man's personality into account when prioritizing what they want, there would probably be less lonely men or men who feel they they are defined by nothing but appearance and therefore lesser.
Thanks for your insight.
polishknightusa 2y ago
That's when these women proudly make lists of 60 different criteria they want in a man including "sense of humor", "honesty", and the other stuff I mentioned in a comment above. But note that they'll compromise on 57 out of 60 of the items on their list except for the 3 shallow ones they have hoping that they can "fix" the rest later.
I marveled that women select particularly for height because perhaps it's the one thing they can't "fix". Some women might even try to "fix" a good looking man by encouraging and supporting him to get better educated and promoted in his work (that's what the old fashioned ones did in the past at least.) Or they'll hope to nag him off of his other negative traits.
Normal men I know did and do prioritize women's personality to the point where they even hit on plain looking women in the hopes they're more grounded and down-to-earth resulting in, at times, these women begin the worst to hit on because they've got swelled heads.
Ok_Management4634 2y ago
I never thought of it that way.. Height is something a man can't control, thus she can't "fix" it.. Same with facial features. I wonder though, we see women chasing the wild Chads and hoping to "Fix" them or a woman saying "But he's so hot" when talking about bad things the man does..
But do women actually believe they can change a man? I am not sure. Women are masters at rationalizing things to themselves. That's why (most) women never accept responsibility for their actions.. They can always rationalize it was someone else's fault or it could not be avoided. Not many times in my life have I seen a woman realize she did something wrong, apologize and make an honest effort not to do it again.. Usually she has to be called out for her bad behavior, an argument happens, she denies doing anything wrong, and then if she's yelled at, she will finally give an insincere "I'm sorry", but make no effort to change.
So I wonder, do women actually think they can change the bad boy? Do they lie to themselves and believe that lie? Or is this just an excuse to go Chad chasing, and when someone asks "Why do you stay with that bum?" , she can say "I'm changing him".. even when she KNOWS that she's not, but it's a good excuse to give to her friends/family.
Creldi 2y ago
I'm truly curious whether any woman has managed to turn a jerk into a good man with her "magical vagina™". But from experience and from what I see in this sub, all they manage to do is encourage the very behaviour they're trying to correct. They spread their legs, he gets what he wants, how he wants and for as long as he wants and then either bails or keeps them in his back pocket.
And after they waste their best years on the CC, women become bitter and suddenly all men are monsters. And woe to the poor bastard who'll come across her when she's finally ready for a "good man". Plain looking women are no different, like you said. Just because they get pumped and dumped by Chad when he wants some easy pickings, they think that men like him are all they deserve. I'd even go as far as to say that they're more entitled and demanding than objectively attractive women.
I find it sad and sort of frightening how difficult and if at all possible it might be to find a woman who has her feet on the ground and her head on her shoulders.
[deleted] 2y ago
Let me get this right:
A woman sleeps with me on the first date because I'm a total mysoginst pig, and she expects to change me?
Woman, you just rewarded that behavior!
silly_birb_Banned 2y ago
Dating and sex was always a matter of leverage, the one woth more options is stronger.
The handicap is that brothels are illegal but being a slut for free is not.
MrNeurotypical 2y ago
Yeah and when you leverage to the extreme you get incels and school shootings, MGTOW, red pill, etc.
DownVotesWrongsOnly 2y ago
While often true, there are many instances where reasonable people would disagree. For instance a lot of categorizations would lead to actual disagreements on what counts as high and what counts as low vs parallel categories.
I'm purposely using obtuse language, but you can see what I'm getting at. The point is that often the most uncomfortable things to say aloud are the most obviously true. And no, it's not fair.
houseoftolstoy Mod 2y ago
I have purposefully placed this post as a link to the alternate forum in order to encourage users to have the discussion there instead of here. I will leave commenting open here too, though later posts might in the future have commenting locked.
moorekom Mod 2y ago
Did you just post this in WAATGM in trp forums and then cross-post it to WATGMA in reddit? Tell the truth, did you hang out with u/Typo-MAGAshiv yesterday night?
houseoftolstoy Mod 2y ago
Maybe I did!
Well his posts did give me that idea to do that. Helps people be more aware of the alternative websites.
moorekom Mod 2y ago
Thank you. Please continue doing so.