Marriage at its most fundamental and universal is simply an agreement between a man and a woman where a man provides resources in exchange for exclusive reproductive rights from a woman. Any sensible marriage would be based on this principle. Marriage in the west is founded around the idea of romantic love and infatuation, which fade over time. The current script of so many women for example is to seek out a 'bad boy' and reform him and to marry him. They're looking for Christian Grey, but he's an abusive sociopath, so they settle for men with those qualities but without the money. They fall in love with the image these fakers create, but in time that image fades and their true deadbeat selves is revealed.
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Where marriage is founded on the universal principle, women will adopt a different script and seek men with different qualities. They will realize their true value as mothers and caregivers and seek out working men who provide resources for the survival of the family. As time goes on, true love will grow from the seed of marriage. Women who don't give exclusive reproductive rights are as worthless as a deadbeat who won't take care of his woman.
ChiTownBob 5y ago
Secular marriage is a piece of paper, nullified at will by lawyers and a judge. It is not a contract. Selfishness kills marriages dead, it is the #1 cause of divorce.
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Holy Matrimony, for those who are able to obtain it, is a lifetime, monogamous, relationship, of one man and one woman, where both partners love each other (real love = unselfishness). Both husband and wife are partners, willing to carry each other's responsibilities and burdens. Unselfishness is REQUIRED.
thewrecker8 5y ago
If you looked at why marriage in America worked you have to look at America pre feminism. This is why people have grandparents that were together from 20 to the end of their lives. Society was different. Things were built to last a long time or were patched to maximize their life. Simple example, mens work pants or jeans. If they got a hole they were patched and you got more years out of them. Things were built to last, today everything has a planned obselence.
If something breaks, you throw it out and buy a new one. Jeans ripping, throw them out but a new pair. We're a world of instant gratification. Something you want? Whip out your phone type it into Amazon and its at your door in two days.
Now introduce feminism into this mindset. "You don't need a man to care for you, you can do it yourself". Women are earning just as much if not more than men. "Your body your choice". You know what you're right, it is my choice. I can do what I want with whoever I want because I don't need a man to care for me, I have my own place, buy my own food, have my own car. "Relationship problems? You don't have to settle" You're right I can put a few pictures of myself on the web and have 20 or more guys DAILY interested in meeting me.
Instant gratification, disposable everything, even relationships. However what stayed were the laws pertaining to marriage when women couldn't easily go out and get a job and were supported by men. See it was assumed years ago that a married woman would stand by her man and if the man didn't want that then it was on him. However women started to hamster and long for other things and instant gratification became a way of life. So as women started to realize the hole between their legs could be weaponized without recourse or penalty. Because the law favored them and being slutty were no longer frowned upon in their minds and men still wanted to be inside them regardless. Marriage allows women to be kids in a candy store who all have rich parents giving them anything they want.
Rick_OShay1 5y ago
One thing that gives eagles majesty is how they are one mate-for-life. Sad that we humans aren't as majestic.
CeleritySteam 5y ago
Marriage is a fundamentally outdated concept.
Even ignoring the countless, countless gender war related problems and female problems that make them colossal liabilities in any and all capacities...
It is as you say, you are buying reproductive rights. Except her fertility drops off a cliff when she hits the wall around age 30, often sooner now because of poor diet, drinking, drugs, etc. It looks down Wile E Coyote style and then hits bottom at menopause but you're not getting healthy children well before that point.
Marriage is a lifetime contract. Except... back then when it actually worked a lifetime was something that generally ended before age 30 and now average life expectancy is in the 70s, 80s, 90s... So before you get a few years out of her and make some kids and now... even if sudden yet inevitable betrayal via divorce rape does not happen she's still around... and you're still paying for her even though she cannot do her part for another 5-6 DECADES.
Once you do consider all of those things I said ignore previously, you realize that not only is marriage outdated as a concept it's an unenforceable contract. About the only means something like that could work out now is set leasing terms. She's all yours age 18-25 and you get your kids while she can still make them. Then you're not paying for someone who cannot do their job anymore and they can go be all strong and independent or whatever. People get really edgy when you suggest anything like that though especially if the man just leases another new model.
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Works well in India.
CeleritySteam 5y ago
You forgot a sarcasm tag. India is a huge haven of false accusations.
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/498a
The females there use this for literal shotgun marriages. As in they falsely accuse a man and make him marry and support her at gunpoint after kidnapping him off the street.
TheYekke 5y ago
Marriage is a construct that fundamentally favors the rulers:
Once you lock down the young men, you remove the number one instability in society (the black September terrorist group was wiped out by marrying them off and turning them into parents).
So now the women with the assistance of dumbfuck men have unlocked the gates of Hell. So what happens next?
Well, if you’re not one of the alpha males that slay poon (this is a transitional state), the feminists hope you will Be scared into self-removing yourself from interacting with women, while still over achieving and providing all those tax dollars that the police state can use to control you. But, history has shown time after time that raping then murdering women that are not guarded by force is a far easier way to sexual satisfaction... that tarrahush thing is a group activity and young men will spontaneously form gangs under these circumstances. The police state can saturate the world with drones and watch 24/7/365, but unless it wants to have 2 police thugs per male it’s going to first stretch, then fail, then collapse into green zones/security perimeters. Baltimore went that way in 24 hours, imagine this happening in every city beyond a certain population size. Go watch some historical footage of the Rodney King riots to disavow any notion that ethnically non-homogeneous countries will pull together.
Will I give two shits to help someone I don’t know, especially if it’s pitch dark and I’m on my own? If 911 works, probably because armed backup is 7 minutes away. If not, I’ll go the other way, or wait until the screaming stops before proceeding.
Marriage is the underpinning of Empire. Polygamy is the underpinning of a clan, maybe a tribe. That shining city on the hill is now Beirut, circa 1976. A great place to be, lots of parties, booze, and oh just one minor massacre away from bat shit crazy.
The Carols we see are more damaging than the 9/11 hijackers, these rot our civilization from the inside.
Rick_OShay1 5y ago
Where did you find this out?
TheYekke 5y ago
The RAND Corportation report on how insurgencies end
toolate4redpill 5y ago
Marriage is a legal agreement which transfers wealth from the man to a woman.
RedPill-BlackLotus 5y ago
It transfers the kids aswell. Money can be replaced.
h6d 5y ago
And house