The default male setting is to be a beta protector and provider, to love and cherish women and to give them the world. Alphas are made, not born. To build yourself up and not give a fuck about women does not come naturally to men, not by a long shot.
Where are all the good men you ask? Well, all the men are born good. We're all born with the instincts to love women, protect them and provide for them. We're all born with the tendency for our hearts to turn to jello in the hands of a woman. We're all born gentlemen.
When feminism began demanding this, that and the other, us men gave all these things to you women. We did so because we loved you and cared for you. You wanted to vote? Sure. You wanted to join the workforce? No problem. You wanted free sex, we're certainly up for that.
But then true female nature was unleashed and unrestrained. And as much as male nature is absolutely kind to women, female nature is absolutely mean, judgmental, nagging, criticizing, shit testing and sexually rejecting to men. Only men who don't care are chosen to care. Only men who hurt are chosen to love. Only men who are thugs are chosen for responsibility.
Men were left scratching their heads. What the hell is going on here? Here I am, being a good responsible gentleman and I come last after she fucks all the bad boy loser thugs?!?!?
Add to this the many men who were royally screwed by divorce courts, child custody and support and false rape accusations etc etc etc.
Add to this the growing male responsibility and diminishing male authority in both the personal and public spheres. Men are expected to shoulder responsibility for individual women, to stand up and be a man, but God forbid he have any expectations at all, even from his own wife! Men are also expected to shoulder responsibility for society as a whole. We do all the dirty and dangerous jobs, we're the net tax payers and we're called upon to make the ultimate sacrifice for our country. (Side note, country is a she
RedLetterWord 5y ago
Definitely one of the most concise expressions of the Red Pill I have yet to see.
Throwawaysteve123456 5y ago
Not to mention, evo psych absolutely exploded in the late 90's, early 2000's. This was a relatively unknown field before then. All of a sudden you had the perfect storm of thousands of anecdotal experiences compounded by scientific evidence that even provided an explanation.
moorekom Mod 5y ago
No. I don't believe so. When we were kids, we used to make fun of girls. Girls were there to be teased. They weren't angels. We weren't trying to fuck them until a certain age and we surely didn't give a shit what they thought. These days, kids are being spoon fed the women are wonderful effect so much. They're being forced to put women first and their own well being second. Because we have been conditioned to think in a way that benefits a woman, it doesn't mean that that was our default thinking. We have just been caught up in a situation where each generation of men further weaken the future generation thanks to the brain washing they go through all their life.
You take a man and woman to the jungle, leave them there for a year and see how they act to each other after that. I am pretty sure he won't be a beta bitch and she won't be the bread winner. Betas are created.
VladMartel 5y ago
I think OP is right, he's just wrong to call it "beta." Or perhaps what constitutes "beta" and "alpha" is somewhat fluid and related to culture? Either way, I think men still knew women's place, even in the heyday of us loving and cherishing them. Indeed, it was part of that that made men accept all the bullshit. "What trouble can they cause? They're women lol."
And then our mistake was learned too late, leading to a vicious cycle of societal degradation where broken men and broken women make broken children and those children grow up and keep the cycle going. It can be broken out of, but in my anecdotal experience, it takes a lot of effort and self-awareness and humility and maturity to do so, and most of us simply don't have all that.
loneliness-inc Mod 5y ago
Fair enough.
However, all that changed due to puberty, not brainwashing. Puberty is all part of your biological development.
He will have good old male authority because she needs that for her survival, but he will also be a provider and protector.
Look back at the story of Adam and eve, she said eat the fruit and like a little bitch, he did
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yeah.
I had a lot of "alpha" tendencies. Make fun of the girls. Tease them. Laugh at them.
Then along come your mom, your older sisters, your teachers (mostly female and white knight men), and probably your dad (if you were fortunate enough to have one), scolding you, putting you in detention, dressing you down in public about being so MEAN to the girls and they are wonderful and how dare you talk to them like that and you are just an asshole and if you keep acting like this you will become a criminal and a delinquent and no one will hire you and you will die a horrible horrible death alone and you will never have sex and no one will ever ever love you ever.
And because you are the child and they are the adults, because they have power of life and death over you, and because they (ostensibly) know better than you do because they are older and have been through it.....
you believe them.
And you implement it into your life. You become "nice". You become compliant and submissive. You do what everyone tells you to do.
And it gets WORSE.
And then you're told that you're not doing enough, you're not nice enough, and you need to be nicer.
SMH
moorekom Mod 5y ago
Exactly. You don't need to program yourself to act in a way that is natural to you. What you think is your opinion is rarely your opinion. It's an accumulation of what your parents, friends, family, society, acquaintances, media etc told you. You just develop your opinion on top of that. Most people never do. The people that do have to reinvent themselves. There's a saying that you don't become a man until your 30 years old. This could be why.
loneliness-inc Mod 5y ago
Disagree. I think all this changes at puberty and is biological.
Also, I think coltaine's video called - biology culture ideology is very relevant here.
Blogginginvicecity 5y ago
Shit, I've been into chicks my age since pre-school! But yeah, biology and culture are two powerhouses of influence, no doubt. And like you're mentioning, biology is a huge factor. No logic to my urge to simp, that's for sure. Like these women on WAATGM with all their self-labelled "complexity!" It's not complex... ...it's biology, bitch!
Thanks for the OP, btw! It flowed very smoothly from my eyes to my brain.
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I can probably say this here. The truth: Men abuse women because that's what women want. I think it goes back to hunter-gatherer times. The brutal guys were more likely to bring home a mammoth or something, and the survival value of that outweighed the abuse.
Glork11 5y ago
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[deleted] 5y ago
I hope you're wrong about this.
I have a 12 year old son. I am trying very hard to red pill him. If he doesn't get red pilled now, it will be that much more painful later.
I really hope that a man does not have to have a woman rip his heart out of his chest, throw it on the pavement, and then piss and shit on it, before he gets it, before it all registers with him. That's what had to happen to me. I hope that is not the only way to ingest a red pill.
I hope a man can accept his father or others carefully administering a red pill, rather than having to have one implanted after "emergency surgery" and then put into him IV push for a year. I was in that hospital, as were thousands of other men. I don't wish that on anyone.
Hallitsijan 5y ago
A redpilled father might help for some kids, sure. But remember being a kid and being told not to touch the stove? Some kids will never touch the stove. Others have to burn their hand at least once before they stop touching it.
I sadly was one of the latter, so no matter how much redpills I got as a kid, it didn't help until I had first hand experience.
VladMartel 5y ago
With anything, it depends on the kids really. When he becomes a man your advice will be in his head - that's your part. It will become his job to trust you or not. Some kids do, and some kids just have to touch the hot stove for themselves first.
But teaching him is definitely very noble and time well-spent. He's already ahead of the curve.
BluepillProfessor 5y ago
The problem with teaching teens and preteens about the Red Pill is that unless they are in the top 20% of boys the girls want to suck they tend to go MGTOW and save all the trouble of heartache later.
RedPill-BlackLotus 5y ago
You can red pill a man if he's young enough. If you wait to long he will have to much of an ego investment in the way he thinks the world works and he will see rejecting the red pill as an opportunity to virtue signal in his gonzo failed sexual strategy. If you wait to long, the pill must go in suppository style and that takes vagina.
etherealpwincess 5y ago
That's relieving to hear. I'm 20F, and therefore not too close to the stage of having children yet, but I want to be prepared by the end of the decade for my future husband and I to instill red pill ideals to our sons from birth.
RedPill-BlackLotus 5y ago
Well then choose the right man for that job princess. Dont forget what sub this is.
etherealpwincess 5y ago
Apologies, as I was simply stalking OP's profile from r/redpillwomen. But regardless, thank you, and I'll explore this sub now.
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loneliness-inc Mod 5y ago
I wish I was wrong about this.... I really do...
Remember what happened to you somewhere around that age? You went from "girls are gross" to drooling over those same limply faced, hormonal, backstabbing, emotional, teenage girls. What changed?
You hit puberty. That's what changed. Your big head took a step back from everything related to women because your little head kicked up in all its awkward boner glory.
Can a father redpill his son? Possibly. I hope so because my son is just a few years younger than yours.
I know that we can give guidance but ultimately it's up to them to live their lives and sometimes that - unfortunately - means making mistakes. They just need to know that we'll always be there to help them back up.
OTOH, sunrise hoodie the YouTube channel seems to have a growing number of teenage MGTOW in his audience!
thetempleofapollo 5y ago
A son always thinks he’s smarter than his father. I know I did.
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A good father wants his son to be better than he is.
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I hope he is wrong too and a few men are wise enough in their youth to see what is going on, but the conditioning we get as men is very hard to see past. When the shaming and blaming keep going full speed and we are all looked at as nothing but bitter, angry men and labeled a "hate group", not many young people are going to want to go against the grain without being burnt once or twice. No matter how easy they get off I think they will all need at least a seed of experience to verify the truth of things, hence the term red pill. It's a small, hard to swallow jagged little symbol of a very hard truth to accept.
PS. OP glad you made this it's own thread. These are words to learn and live by.
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yeah it is a good thread. It's all food for thought, i'll tell you that.
Because in the mainstream media, "red pill" and "manosphere" is
--ugly neckbeards
--hopeless incels
--losers and violent borderline criminal "niceguys (TM)"
--Paul Elam
--Eliot Rodger
--Toronto van murderer
That's it. It's not what the vast majority actually is, which is mostly guys who struggled with dating and sex, and who got royally fucked over, shafted, exploited and used in their relationships.
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MGTOW get a hysterical reaction because MGTOW is a huge threat to the social order. Women need men to support them while they squeeze out their kids. MGTOW short circuits that, and there is no other plan.
loneliness-inc Mod 5y ago
Funny how it's
Not all Muslims are terrorists
Not all blacks are criminals
Not all Hispanics are drug dealers
But all RP men are losers!
Nov51605 5y ago
man, I have not really been fucked over. Ive done nothing but many Short term monogamous relationships, ONS, FWB's. only wanting to marry once, but never engaged, etc.. and im coming up on 50 in a few years.
I just got sick of their bullshit because it's annoying as fuck and not worth my time putting up with in a "live in" situation. Id rather continue in the direction i always have, but with much more focus than before because of TRP.
THere's a lot of polarization of TRP folks by the normies . for them it's either misogynist "incel" or misogynist "womanizer", with no grey areas.
Examples like mine are important for the normies, that TRP is not just for dudes "who musta have been hurt" or for PUA's
loneliness-inc Mod 5y ago
Much stronger than any conditioning is the biological drives!
BluepillProfessor 5y ago
Our biological drive is to dominate women and fuck the shit out of them. Our biological drive has nothing to do with men's fear of talking to women or putting them on pedestals. That is entirely learned behavior carefully cultivated by feminists, Marxists, and other nation destroying scum, and then programmed into us by our teachers, parents, and women.
loneliness-inc Mod 5y ago
If so, why do we turn into Bambi around women as soon as we hit puberty?
BluepillProfessor 5y ago
Because we have not been taught by strong men that girls are not perfect. All of our mothers, sisters, cousins, girlfriends, & wives told us the same carefully coordinated lie that women are perfect and that any man should be happy merely being in the presence of one of these exalted creatures. They further told us that the only way we would "ever find a woman" was to "be nice" to her.
The "Bambi" is a reaction that is learned. That anxiety you feel around girls when you hit puberty can be channeled into healthy masculine aggression or it can be turned inwards into self-doubt and fear. Our society, and almost all of the women in it, have decided they want men to be in fear because they have aquired power, and now they want to hold onto it. That is what #METOO is about. That is what 3rd Wave Feminism is about. Male shaming. Masculine destroying. Grinding men into dust beneath their feet.
Wait! Where are all the good men?
loneliness-inc Mod 5y ago
I agree that there is conditioning, but I also think there's a biological componant that makes us softer around women.
Blogginginvicecity 5y ago
This Red pill stuff has been personally tested using the scientific method. Whereas so many fucks in science can't wait to canoodle their balls while proclaiming, "uuugggh, it appears my hypothesis is correct... ...who could have guessed!?" this red pill hypothesis really is something we want to throw up. To this day I instinctually look to find justification to throw my red pill knowledge down the trash; it's that disturbing to my biological imperative. In true scientific form, men are instinctually seeking to disprove the hypothesis, but it continues to hold, and every woman in our lives continues to validate it.
KingOfTheShitPosters 5y ago
Where are all the good men you ask? Well, all the men are born good.
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I'm going to disagree on this too. Young kids can be absolutely cruel. It is up to the parents to teach them right from wrong.
loneliness-inc Mod 5y ago
Fair enough.
What do you think would happen if kids were left to their own devices?
I remember a study from a very long time ago where they tested this and for the first few days there was chaos, but after that, the kids became more responsible.
At any rate, I agree that little kids can be very cruel and this is part of human nature that we're born with. However, by the time we turn to men, we're mostly good people. That's the point. That "good men" aren't some mythical creatures that hardly exist. They're your neighbors, friends and family.
If you really want to nitpick, take this quote from my words "men are born". Of course that's technically wrong because no one is born a man! We're born as little boys
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Made me think of this:
1 Timothy 2:12-14
The reason? Because man wasn't deceived, he was convinced by the almighty pussy power to go against his better judgement. Pussy made him commit the ultimate sin, going against the wishes of his Master. He naturally wants to do good in the world, but women want him to do bad, and at some point he has to choose, to do what women want and continue fucking them, or to do what he knows is right.
But, I have a problem with this sentence. I can accept another rendition that might better serve as your intended meaning, but as it stands, men had their wish, and they wished to get rid of their responsibilities.
Not too long ago, the government ran on the surplus acquired through taxable services, excise and property taxes. All that was needed to function at the municipal, state, and federal levels of government were acquired through taxes voluntarily paid by corporations or people that explicitly signed up for those services or conducted commercial trade that the government constitutionally levied from. But, then the government talked the people into going to war, to keep the country together in order to prevent weakening its economic and militant forces. After the Civil War, the bankrupt government had no way to pay back it debts and so it borrowed to do so. The condition of borrowing required the government to transfer control of its federal territory and the corporation it used to borrow money to fund the war, known at the time as the UNITED STATES. After 50 years, the loners decided to manufacture a financial crisis (as they do every now and then) and thus spurned the Federal Reserve, a private board operating outside of the jurisdiction of any legal requirements, instantiated to solve the problems of a private corporation, and accepted publicly by the people. Thus men gave up their duty to ensuring the welfare of their country to a private corporation that operates clandestine of any impunity while accepting all the benefits of transferring wealth from the people.
Men gave up their ability to control government as the authority of commerce to a foreign organization in order to conveniently absolve their responsibilities to each other and other debtors. Men allowed this private corporation to influence federal commissions purposed to oversee operations within the several states, which gave that corporation the keys to unlocking its own growth, unhindered by the will of the people. It was men who laid their accountability to their country and fellow men directly into the hands of a foreign interest who promised survival at the expense of slavery. It was that corporation that usurped the prosperity of the country by convincing people to give up their sovereign rights, by way of placing themselves within a private jurisdiction, in order to benefit from conveniences of not having the responsibility to do what is required to remain free.
That central authority promoted women having the right to dispose of their own resources, therefore removing the viability of seeking a man. Womens' hypergamous instincts drove them to adopt more programs aimed at security and self sufficiency while giving up their independence. It was easy for them, they were already dependent on men, so being dependent on theState was of little concern. In the end, it was men who gave up themselves, to avoid the undertaking the diligence necessary for a positively functioning body of authority, which paved the way for the deterioration of traditional values and the nuclear family we see today. Feminism was the product of women having a man, the State, and seeking more from their men then they were exchanging. Feminism is not the disease, it is the symptom of the disease, which is propensity of men to be complacent and lazy. Every now and then, men need a booster shot of hardships to treat this disease by cleansing the tree of liberty with their blood, or it will run its course and their children will wake up one day starving and homeless.
But, it appears that men may start looking to treat their disease early as long as the chaotic nature of women is leveraged against them, and their only choice is to enslave themselves to them or walk away. Once the MGTOW man wakes up to the atrocities he is faced with, the hardships of his diligence and sovereign responsibility looks a whole lot better than the alternative, which is to satisfy the impossible wants of the modern, "liberated" woman.
loneliness-inc Mod 5y ago
I think the name Eve comes from evil.
There are many reasons why women never demanded equality until the industrial revolution and why men never thought of giving it to them before then. Colttaine discusses this is some of his other home-run videos.
At any rate, men at the time didn't realize that feminism would turn into what it did today. Had they realized this, perhaps they would have made other choices, perhaps not. Who knows....
The rest of what you write regarding giving up our freedoms - government is designed to rule. Ruling involves loss of individual freedom. Therefore, government will always be looking to take more and more power for itself.
However, people don't just give up their power and liberty. That's where free shit comes in. Works like a charm every time. Unfortunately.
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Eve comes from "living". Adam is translated as "dew" but is actually mistranslated from Abdiel, which is "Servant of God" and comes from "soil".
So if you put Adam and Eve together, you literately get "living soil". Kind of interesting, ei?
loneliness-inc Mod 5y ago
Yes, that's the old testament way of thinking. But what's the new testament way of thinking? I vaguely remember Eve having something to do with evil but I'm not really sure about that.
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In america government was designed for justice. The colonists were sick of rulers and paying tribute to them without getting what they were paying for in return. They decided the history of mankind was wroth with unjust rulers even after the magna carte, so they rewrote what government means. In america that function happens to be a singular "Justice" which is the protection of private rights and the right to be left alone. That is why I said all of that about "the corporation" rather than "the government" because at that time the government had no ability to provide justice to the people without the people taking on the responsibilities of government themselves. After the war, the people were sick, injured, lost their families, their farms, and were on the verge of collapsing. The last thing they wanted was to take on more responsibilities, so they let the government transfer its sovereign capacity into a commercial enterprise. This paved the way for usurping the rights and freedoms that man enjoyed from the protection of a de jure government organization, immune from liabilities.
'Government' that currently exists only exists as a fraud to what government was originally created, written, and continues to be pushed as. You can force this organization to operate as government again, but the de facto design is as a commercially viable organization that is bankrupted where the collateral that is required to continue loaning out is the assets, property, and future equity of the publicly accountable people that ignorantly throw themselves and their children under it's sinking ship.
The presumption currently is therefore that every citizen, by default, is a corporation, enjoying membership to "this corporation and de facto government", for benefits to its resources that they promised. Since it is bankrupted, the Persons actually owe on those resources, so the benefit has already been provided, even if a Person has never received anything from it. They are now obligated to perform for the non-resources they received. That is where the real problems come into play for the people. It isn't with "the government", it is with the lack of diligence the people have to figuring out what "government" is and why they are not only "public officials" but also support the "private organization" that was delegated from it to support it's functions.
I hope I have cleared all this up for you. Your statement about "our freedoms" seems a little misconstrued in that it would only be correct if the People were under conquest. Since that hasn't happened, then individual freedoms are attainable upon the highest order of sovereignty which is the authority over de jure government, which is the authority over commercial enterprise, which is the authority over expenditures that the government needs or has delegated to organizations supporting the members needed to fulfill its end of the bargain.
So if people actually attempted to understand all of this, they would realize they aren't being given anything at all, but a liability for a loan that has paid for unnecessary functions of a private corporation from which they have agency for. Not only that, but they have allowed this private organization to steal from them, imprison them, fraudulently promote their crimes as government functions, fraudulently publish misleading publications about what those functions are, fraudulently avoid disclosing the emergency war powers act in effect, fraudulently avoid disclosing that all laws are governed in international maritime law, etc etc. The People are given a pittance of compensation for a lifetime of slavery, but it is pushed that they are getting a functioning society. It isn't functioning if it cannot operate without a private organization dedicating its' resources to it on interest that can never be paid.
loneliness-inc Mod 5y ago
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I like you. You're smarter than you look. ;)
loneliness-inc Mod 5y ago
Brickles09 5y ago
Pearls of wisdom, all of it. Women are totally unleashed, and that’s not good for their own good. They simply don’t know what to do. If we think we are lost, be certain the females are thrice as lost as we are. There’s this post-wall childless divorced woman on my facebook, and her last post is literally: “Felling so empty, I don’t know if I cry, or if I become an alcoholic, or if I do both.” Can you imagine our grandmothers with such state of mind? It’s sad, man.
TheImpossible1 5y ago
It's not over - they want us dead.
BluepillProfessor 5y ago
S.C.U.M.
It is not a new idea.
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I can’t shake the supreme gut wrenching sadness I feel when I think about the real losers of this reality.
It isn’t men. We learn a few things, reset, reload, adapt and get back out there and crush it. We can come back. Women can’t. The 30+ single mom who just hit the wall has nothing to look forward to and they ALL know it. It’s fucking depressing. I feel genuine sadness whenever a single mom divulges to me shyly that she has a kid with that worried expression on her face. She’s terrified that it’s over and she’s right.
Blogginginvicecity 5y ago
It's during those thoughts that it truly sinks in why so many women are on medication.
JJ3314 5y ago
I feel worst for (1) men who have had their lives ruined by the family courts/ties severed with children, and (2) children who are raised by irresponsible mothers.
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I do too.
But I feel bad for BOTH. I pity EVERYONE. I take no solace in knowing that one group is hurt more than the other. Do you have a finite amount of pity to give? I don’t.
loneliness-inc Mod 5y ago
Is it over after the easy lay or before?
On the one hand - easy lay.
On the other hand - don't stick your dick in crazy!
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I’m talking like the moment I find out they have a kid. So usually before. Although sometimes they don’t tell you until after things escalate.
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I feel no pity and no responsibility for these sluts. Women today make this choice. Decisions have consequences. If no one cares enough about the human perspective of men's suffering at the hands of women and the gubmint than we should have no concern for theirs. Fuck them literally and figuratively.
[deleted] 5y ago
This is the “ride the wave” argument. Well I guess I’m just not a nihilist. “Just fuck em” is just sad to me. I’m not a stud bull locked in a pen. There is a better version of life out there and I’m going to find it.
loneliness-inc Mod 5y ago
Dude. It's time to stop. This isn't a debate sub.
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Fair enough.
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
Stop relieving them of their responsibility as if they had no idea what they were doing.
[deleted] 5y ago
How am I doing that exactly? Forget the TRP rhetoric for a second and think about it on a human level. Have you ever made a mistake when you were 18 that you would like to change?
BluepillProfessor 5y ago
Your remorse is like a runaway slave feeling bad because Massa gonna have trouble bringing in the harvest now.
That's the "human level" I understand.
Massa gave the slave his food and water, lodging and even health care and a pension of sorts. Yet the slaves clearly had no duty to them whatsoever and from "human level" perspective were free to leave at any time even if it meant Massa and his family starved.
Women today don't give most men even the tiniest scraps. They don't even bother to put in a kind word. Men clearly have no duty to these women whatsoever and the "human perspective" is that some people are born as examples to show others what NOT to do.
Therefore, meow.
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I know doing heroin is wrong and i know fucking someone without protection is wrong. I haven't done either because i've been told my whole life they are wrong. That isn't a little tiny mistake like not studying for a test. It's a huge choice with ramifications for the rest of your life, that you have been thoroughly warned about.
BluepillProfessor 5y ago
And if they made the choice once and got pregnant in the back seat of a car after the rubber breaks I could muster up some sympathy.
These girls fuck one bad boy after another bareback and then they are surprised- shocked I say!- that they "find themselves mysteriously pregnant through no fault or action of their own. It just happened!
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So what?
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
Women know they are advantaged and Fucking messing around for years on end. They know more than men will ever know. And here you are saying “aww they must feel so sad when they hit the wall after 10 years of absolute hedonistic debauchary”. I’ve watched both my sisters do it and an array of women relevant to mine and my friends lives.
The issue is you seem to think they regret it. They don’t, they just regret not jumping off the ship before it crashed, like any human maximising their advantages.
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loneliness-inc Mod 5y ago
Cut out the man shaming.
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theres no empathy for willfully bad and completely aware choices for 10-20 years where they had literally ALL and any opportunities in life to be better people and to be in better positions and guess what, even when they crashed down to the bottom of facing consequences the first time in their lives - they still get E V E R Y T H I NG from abortion to undo their 'mistakes' to adoption and baby boxes, affirmative action, better treatment by default and still willing men lining up for them
like to even get to this point of "desperation" you have to work hard, like this doesnt just happen, this is coordinated nigh restless labour for ages on end with nary a thought to do anything that they don't get left behind like all their fellow women that they see every day 24/7, their future if they follow their current path lingering infront of them every inch of the way - STILL they choose it and have the audacity to complain ontop of it all
no healthy rational human being could possibly feel anything close to empathy for that
[deleted] 5y ago
Then I’m an unhealthy, irrational human being.
I don’t forgive or condone their actions and I demand they take responsibility both actually and morally but...
I STILL feel bad. Sorry, not sorry. I garner no sick enjoyment from the suffering of others, no matter how well deserved it is. I’m not a sadist.
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
Very clever discrediting of my argument. You are smart person. And then you talk about lack of empathy. Hilarious.
Why are you on this forum? You’re obviously a troll.
[deleted] 5y ago
I’m not trolling.
My stance is that empathy is non-negotiable. This is reflected by my emotions. If I see someone in pain, I feel bad for that pain.
Your stance is that empathy is conditional. If they did a bad thing, you don’t feel for them.
Am I correct? If so, we agree to disagree. This isn’t a debate if we are that fundamentally apart. Get it?
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
I understand you have changed the argument entirely, are generally not appropriate for this forum and talk in a condescending manner like a woman. Kindly leave. Thanks.
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empatheticapathetic 5y ago
Answer this question you moronic troll. Why are you on this forum? You're obviously one of the good men women are looking for. Go save them from their horrible existence and choices because you are so empathetic to their suffering. Find the saddest biggest alpha widow and go show her good men do exist. She will be so happy she found her knight in shining armour.