Women have a communistic mind. Generally, what is good for the tribe is good for them. This is because men ensure that women are happy and build the tribes infrastructure to provide and protect their women and children. In this way, the woman enjoys being ‘property’ of the man. With that status, she is protected by him, but also she has a certain amount of control over what luxuries and benefits she gains. Her success is in convincing a man to work hard for her, and collectively, this influence women have over men is expressed in the luxuries granted by his institutions. Since women wish for security, amenities, and service, then that is what men seek to provide for those women that they cherish and commit to.
A womans’ desires are influences for men around her to consider in order to gain her affection, please her and provide for her. Her social prowess and ability to twist words gives her a significant advantage to extracting this male labor and pampering. She is not interested in keeping this arrangement egalitarian though as she needs to ensure men compete for her attention and continue contributing to her needs. So she is built to take advantage wherever she can. This is her solipsistic nature, and it isn’t immoral on it’s own.
The reliability and robustness of the tribe is a shadow to how well the women in that tribe are treated, with a measure of how much responsibility is required to survive. Currently, it takes nothing but a heartbeat and a tribe account # to keep a human alive in our society. How is this possible? Communism. Women wanted the ability to offload their responsibilities, by their nature they need to do this to maintain good health and nurture offspring. The more support she has from the tribe as a whole, the more she will expect from the man she is partnered to and the more valuable she will consider herself, leading to abundance mentality and entitlements.
As men help build society and provide these amenities for their women, the more value and equity their property grows. Women chase after those men that provide the most value and status for their time spent with them. Women exchange their value, their fertile youth and capacity for being impressed upon or submissiveness, for the agency of a desired man. In traditional societies, this is the expectation of men and so he was responsible for the care of his property that way. The higher his status in the tribe, the more access to resources and other desirable men she has. Her ability to lie and emotionally detatch from men is crucial to her ability to raise her offspring, from which all her benefits are derived and with which her window to bring value to a man is short. She isn’t cold or immoral, she is biologically driven to hold the greatest responsibility of the tribe, to multiply the tribes workers, clerks, merchants, farmers, and fertile maidens.
Since women have the greatest responsibility by order of their biological directives, then they seek to offload that burden to men and the rest of the tribe. Being communistic will secure the resources they need as the top of the food chain becomes that collective governing body and naturally all maidens get fed first to ensure healthy tribe members. This all works fine in theory, because men will take care of women at the individual level and ‘benefit’ from the infrastructure that their contributions of labor provide. In theory, all members benefit equally from the institutions that govern participation and obligations of its’ willing citizens.
We see here, that women are naturally socially superior and have an ability that few men possess, the power of dissimulation. Considering this the means from which they extract resources, they have evolved to essentially deceive men and men willingly allow themselves to fall prey to this due to his natural inclination of wanting to protect his property and interests.
Men are savvy and adapt to their environment to exploit its’ profitable channels. They now have an avenue to extract resources from this collective system and take advantage of it. Since the pooling of resources becomes increasingly centralized, then the channels from which men profit grow as well. The ones that deceive and manipulate those public institutions become the most wealthy beneficiaries of it. In a communist inspired tribe where dependence and the superior skill to manipulate is rewarded and even encouraged, a certain level of corruption is required to continue prospering. This increasing requirement to commit higher and higher degrees of fraud in order to excel is the crux to increasing disparity among that societies citizens. Women then chase after those men who have capitalized on that system the most (either legitimately or otherwise), which then further rewards those that seek out these financial advantages. Those institutions that man initially created to provide the protection of his property, has now gone rogue to protect its’ own interests as more deception is required to keep the promises and liabilities of each increasingly ignorant generation looking to extract as much as possible before it collapses upon itself.
Women desire the best of both worlds in a man; a high status/attractive man that takes dominion over her, but also spoils her and lets her exercise her hypergamous nature. As too a man desires the best of both worlds in his backyard; a justice system that protects his property and leaves him alone, but also one that provides paved roads and utilities to it. His compromise is that the a public owner will have easement to his property, just as a womans’ compromise is that she will agree to have sex with only that one man.
What happens is that men and women have a constant temptation to accept less responsibility and thereby a little less freedom for the man and less reliability for the woman.
Eventually, it gets to the point where men are so deceived that they have given ALL of their freedom away and women have social security nets so wide and expansive that they don’t actually need a man.
This is where the spiral of immorality begins and where the “theory” becomes a repeated practicing failure. Women chase after men that have high value in superficial ways because resources are abundant to her and hard working males are expected to continue providing them indirectly with those socialist securities. Men become the functional trustees of the institution while women become the functional beneficiaries. Women are then motivated to deceive men with their true intentions and the tribes treasury is motivated to ensure everyone is deceived to the true nature of its’ resources. The majority of men benefit less and less in this system while women and foreign bankers and their lawyers benefit the most. More and more corruption is required and then one day men wake up to their property being sold off to the highest bidder, women increasingly unhappy, men avoiding dating or working in a rigged system and the crumbling cornerstone of the tribe echoing “Where Are All the Good Men?” across the hazy dawn.
Dls95405 4y ago
Damn good read. I learned a new word too, dissimulation. Perfectly describes them.
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a_manioc 4y ago
Dude stop reading Froid, women do not crave dick and protection, they are human beings and just as rational as men, women do not choose to be supported by their husband or boyfriend in most cases, they get pregnant or become busy with chores assigned to them and get pressured into quitting their jobs. If they do search for a rich man it’s not because it’s their nature as women but what they were thought as children, little girls don’t want to be princesses, they are thought to.
where_muh_good_mens 4y ago
kek
I'm just not going to take you seriously after that, but we do agree on some things you said.
oxyoxyboi 4y ago
True, that is why we need our own security. In the end we all die alone and we need to know that we only have ourselves to blame if we give all our power away
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where_muh_good_mens 4y ago
Just the fact, jack. What you think of the truth is on you.
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where_muh_good_mens 4y ago
No, they naturally desire a society that pools resources because it provides security.
You know, you're gonna have to actually read my essay if you want to have a discussion. Otherwise you just have your feelings on it and I don't give a shit about those.
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where_muh_good_mens 4y ago
Supposedly this is all "equal". Uhh huh.
Why do you say that? Being a part of the tribe carries obligations, most of which women don't want. In order to offload those responsibilities they need men to take 'their fair share' of the burden.
No, it's not. It what I said in my essay. Women are natural dependants as a feminine desire for men. Women are net resource extractors in their households and men are net contributors. Further out (and part of the correlation I made above) is that they desire government or external arbitrators to their men. This way they do not have to submit to a man, but to an "equal" third party. Since women are dependent and superior manipulators and exploiters, then those "collective resources" are spend on them and their desires. They become the beneficiaries of the tribes treasury. Any man that contributes and promotes this communist environment is either a beneficiary (dependent) or a cuck who gives away his labor and property without a direct benefit to himself.
Therefore the mind of the women is skewed towards centralized resources and invasive rulers and authorities. And in all communist ideologies that are eventually practised, whoever controls the flow of wealth and power becomes a tyrannical ruler and the rest her slave.
I don't think you know what that word means.
So, please take this sincerely. I understand you have done some research, but I do not wish to carry on any more of your 'nitpicking'. Come up with something that is aligned to the post and the purpose of the sub or just avoid participation. Thanks.
EdofBorg 4y ago
Technology has set mankind adrift, untethered to the natural biological world that used to demand something in exchange for survival. Now days anyone can survive without any particular skills or intelligence.
ChilledEfilist 4y ago
The system that we men one day created to protect our beloved women is now working against us, in the most blatant and parasitic way. It's time to abandon this game. Forever.
Antifeg 4y ago
Mouse utopia.
alexanderthegroovy 4y ago
Holy shit, this was epic.
You are an excellent writer. Keep it up man.
FewActinomycetaceae0 4y ago
Kurt Andersen u/KBAndersen Fraction of all US wealth owned by Boomers & Gen-Xers when the average member of each was age 35:
Boomers, 1989 21%
GenX, 2008 8%
The average Millennial turns 35 in 2023.
Right now they own 3%.
There will surely be political implications.
federalreserve.gov/releases/zl/da...
11:23 AM • Nov 24, 2019 • Twitter Web App
FalsePositiveRethink 4y ago
This.
Dls95405 4y ago
Truly shocking. But millennials have the power to turn it around on a dime. Organize and vote for Bernie Sanders.
Antifeg 4y ago
Well I only want to say that 20 percent of hundred is less than 2 percent of milion so maybe we shouldn't rush to conclusions that fast without all data because I'm pretty sure average person today has better life than king hundred years ago although he had 90% of wealth.
Dls95405 4y ago
oh dear. that was painful
E-roticWarrior 4y ago
Profound!!!
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FalsePositiveRethink 4y ago
This.
goodmansaysfuckyou Mod 4y ago
Nicely worded and well thought out piece. I have my own set of strengths, but have always been envious of guys like you whom have the ability to put their thoughts into clear writing.
This seems to be further propagated by the fact that no one (men nor women) have been held accountable to their word, resulting in them furthering false allegiance to each other but strengthening their contrition and conformity to the system. In days past, a man's word was his bond. It was assurance and insurance that what was agreed upon will transpire. Men used to instinctively know that a woman's word is worthless, but we somehow lost sight of that and began to assume that, like us, it had weight. We sacrificed any and all methods of holding a woman accountable to her agreements and eliminated all punitive measures for her betrayals. Having no recourse to hold women accountable has not only unleashed women's hypergamy but has disbanded and destroyed the concept of honor and integrity among men. Instead of rebuilding what was once a solid foundation for society/civilization, we have elected to "go native" and blend into the den of deceit, disenchantment, and apathy.
If the tripe definition of insanity is "repeating the same behavior and expecting a different outcome" then
we have allmost of us have gone crazy.where_muh_good_mens 4y ago
Because there were no social safety nets for him and his wife and kids otherwise. If his community couldn't trust him, then he would miss out on opportunities and his entire family would likely suffer as a result.
A combination of having more than we know what to do with, wanting to find favor among them and biologically driven to protect the inferior.
Not elected, but wilfully ignorant. The more ignorance man can claim, the less responsibility he will have. All it took to get an entire society on board with giving up their responsibility to holding governments and subsequently women accountable was the dangling carrot of complacency and franchise benefits.
I think the take away here is that men are willing to compromise more with women and their desires while also falling prey to their own ignorance and apathy. Greedy, power hungry tyrants will always be a diligent force looking to take advantage of weak and confused men. The first step in taking a nation over is to make the men dependent on anything but God and to worship false gods in His place. Once men have given up their service to a Holy Supreme Authority, they are easily deceived to serving an inferior authority.
Original_Username7 4y ago
Epic contribution! Masterfully elucidated.
where_muh_good_mens 4y ago
Hey thanks brother! Glad you got some use out of it. God bless.
some1arguewithme 4y ago
Men aren't so much as opting out, they're being chased out.
Women self segregate themselves into fem agreeableness bubbles. It's no wonder things like women's studies devolved into a positive feedback spiral of idiotic man hating ideology. What else could happen when you pack a class with overly agreeable femoids who aren't willing to rock the boat. High agreeableness people only like being around other high agreeableness people.
There is a race war going on right now. its not a race war between skin colors or anything like that; it's a race war between people who are high in trait agreeableness and people low in trait agreeableness. When i say agreeableness i'm talking about the personality trait from the five factor model or the HEXACO personality model. Agreeableness as a technical term with a definition. Agreeableness as a behavioral trait that is heritable.
What has happened is that these institutions have been selecting for people with high agreeableness, and people with high agreeableness self select into the institutions. This creates agreeableness bubbles. this is group think. Women's studies suffers from this bias more because women are one standard deviation higher in agreeableness than men. Women's studies classes filled with women who aren't willing to rock the boat, of course they're going to spiral into a positive reinforcement loop into insanity and ideology. no one is willing to stand up and point out how dumb this shit is. HIGH AGREEABLENESS.
Even worse is that this same pathological over selection for agreeableness has spread to almost every institution in our society. These agreeableness bubbles are an OBVIOUS side effect of empowering women who are one standard deviation higher in agreeableness than men. Here is a quote from Dr. Ed Dutton on how women change the institutions they colonize due to women having different values and predispositions than men.
"The universities used to be about nurturing genius. You'd get these, who is it that is geniuses, who is it that solves these amazing problems, people who have outlier high IQ plus moderately anti-social personality. People like James Watson, those people will tend to do what they do because they are highly intelligent so they can really conceive of these difficult problems. They're moderately low in conscientiousness so that means can sort of think outside the box so they're not bound by rules traditions or conformity. They're moderately low in agreeableness so they either don't care that they offend people or they're kinda autistic or a bit spergy and they couldn't conceive that they would offend people even if they didn't want to. New ideas will always offend so they don't care about that so they come up with brilliant ideas. Now women are the opposite of that. Women are the exact opposite of that, they are the opposite of genius. Well, A because women don't have outlier high IQ; the female IQ is bunched towards the mean. And B they tend to be higher in conscientiousness than men and higher in agreeableness than men, so you just DON'T GET many female geniuses. So when they take over university which is happening they will come across as the MUCH better candidate for the job than this kinda autistic wierdo who might if you leave him alone for ten years might come up with something brilliant. Who are you going to employ? Him or this girl who is positive, confident, outgoing... OBVIOUSLY you're going to employ her. So it changes the whole nature of academia. So academia doesn't become about the cut and thrust of debate and harsh disputation to get to the truth, it becomes about cooperating and being kind and creating a bureaucracy where you make incremental steps and publish every so often and this is A anathema to genius types and B very difficult for genius, because they are a bit autistic and will offend people so they get pushed out of uni. and this is happening. " because of women in university they have changed the WHOLE CULTURE of university to make it where TRUTH is plays second fiddle to Cooperating and everyone feeling good and happy and getting along. whereas truth is amoral of course and doesn't care..."
"Female empowerment will make you less harsh to outsiders, more cooperative to outsiders, it will take the institutions of society which have adapted to and elivated the (masculine) martial values which help us survive and it will make those more feminin and kind and loving, and therefor it wont prepare people for the battle that is group selection."
The Head Girl Syndrome - the opposite of creative genius
The ideal Head Girl is an all-rounder: performs extremely well in all school subjects and has a very high Grade Point Average. She is excellent at sports, Captaining all the major teams. She is also pretty, popular, sociable and well-behaved.
The Head Girl will probably be a big success in life, in whatever terms being a big success happens to be framed (she will gravitate towards such aspects of life) - so she might in some times and places make a Good Marriage and do a great job of raising a family; in another time and place she might go to a top-notch college and get a top-notch job - and pursue a glamorous and infertile lifestyle of 'serial monogamy'; with desirable mates.
But the Head Girl is not, cannot be, a creative genius.
Modern society is run by Head Girls, of both sexes, hence there is no place for the creative genius.
Modern Colleges aim at recruiting Head Girls, so do universities, so does science, so do the arts, so does the mass media, so does the legal profession, so does medicine, so does the military...
And in doing so, they filter-out and exclude creative genius.
The genius is pretty much everything the Head Girl is not. He is lop-sided in his abilities - truly excellent at some things or maybe just one thing, he is either hopeless or bored by many others. He won't work hard for long periods at things he does not want to do. He will not gravitate to the prestige areas of life, or cannot or will not do the networking necessary to get-on.
The Head Girl can never be a creative genius because she does what other people want by the standards they most value. She will worker harder and at a higher standard in doing whatever it is that social pressure tells her to do - and she will do this by whatever social standards prevail, only more thoroughly.
Meanwhile the creative genius will do what he does because he must.
The Head Girl will not ever want to alienate potentially powerful allies.
Meanwhile the creative genius is indifferent or hostile to the opinions of others so long as he knows he is right.
The Head Girl is great to have around, everybody thinks she is wonderful.
Meanwhile the creative genius is at best a person who divides opinion, strongly, in both directions - at worst often a signed-up member of the awkward squad.
The more selective the social system, the more it will tend to privilege the Head Girl and eliminate the creative genius.
Committees, peer review processes, voting - anything which requires interpersonal agreement and consensus - will favour the Head Girl and exclude the creative genius.
(Not least because committees are staffed by Head Girls, of both sexes, who naturally favour their own kind.)
We live in a Head Girl's world - which is also a world where creative genius is marginalized and disempowered to the point of near-complete invisibility.
just wanted to add that one of the defining factors of the west is that we don't just get rid of our geniuses. Most civilizations through history KILL their geniuses. The west, America in particular, has traditionally been just about the only place a genius could thrive. This is all going bye bye due to women's empowerment.
Women's empowerment is destroying our civilization. Most the problems we have stem from women's political enfranchisement. Women gravitate to external locus of control ideology, thinking they are NOT agents and nothing is their fault. This kind of mentality is diametrically opposed to a free and open society. Women vote their temperament and nature. Women's nature is to seek protection and provision. Women have turned the government into big Daddy. The strong independent woman is an illusion of the welfare state. Women have voted in a system where instead of one woman being dependent upon one man through voluntary marriage, all women are dependent on all men through forced taxation.
Repeal the 19th
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This is great.
Dls95405 4y ago
Amazing piece, and I'm not easy to impress.
PhantomCowboy 4y ago
Brilliant comment, incredibly insightful and accurate
PHUCK_THE_HIVE 4y ago
Man, I totally see the high agreement in women everywhere. I usually call it the cackling of hens. It sickens me too because the biological pressure of especially young men wanting sex turns many of them into "agreeable cucks" too and act just like women or else the women would dump them.
Another reason Reddit makes me puke.
However, I would like to mention is that this feminine tendency to agree is I think is a foundation of why (at least in my experience) they only desire sex if you can "charm" them. Charm is not a sweet thing, but society framed it as such. All it is is an emotional and wily manipulative technique to get laid.
I'm a pretty good looking guy, and despite what incel culture says, that alone was never enough to get me laid. I had to learn how to be an evil smooth talker than can play really good mind games, and then bam, I can get laid easy (especially from the internet). It's funny even though I've gained weight over the past decade, I've practiced my evil charm technique over the web, and I've had 3x as much gfs as I did before when I was young and thin and an uncharming cuck not seeing what most women are really like.
Man society is messed up.
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THIS!
The_lurkers_watch 4y ago
It's funny I have a friend that worked as a barista in Austin after getting her public relations degree. She was so onboard with Bernie, socialism, "the government needs to fix <insert problem>"
It was all about fairness! Everything should be fair!
Until she got married to a decently wealthy guy and started having kids.
It was a slow progression but I can look at her facebook and see how she went from "this is our problem" to "that is your problem".
Her husband probably sat her down and showed her how much he pays in taxes. He probably works 50+ hours a week and this illusion of fairness and privilege is crumbling.
Why shouldn't her husband vote in a way that benefits him and his family?
See she abandoned the 'girl-power' collective when she started a family, now her values are more aligned with a political party that reinforces (whether that's true or not) the family unit.
It was never about fairness or any kind of ideology to her, it was about being pragmatic (which I think, most people are).
FewActinomycetaceae0 4y ago
this is straight from Dr. Edward Dutton: The Jolly Heretic youtube, i forgot which specific video but this is word for word what he said, that guy is extremely intelligent, Great Britian peaked i believe he mentions in late 1880's with 17 genius per some measurement which i forgot and now its less than 6 i think.
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This is great stuff. I’ve seen him too. We have to keep this fire of knowledge alive. I believe the collapse is inevitable, and we will need information like this to rebuild and reorder society on more rational lines afterward.
some1arguewithme 4y ago
You sir are obviously a man of taste. You're correct. A good portion of it is word for word a quote from his interview with TFM.
Prism42_ 4y ago
Have a link to the interview?
some1arguewithme 4y ago
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Bs4c6UXP72Y/
Prism42_ 4y ago
Thanks.
Prism42_ 4y ago
Really great comment, well done.
moorekom Mod 4y ago
OP, consider expanding on this and posting it here as a separate post.
no_its_a_subaru 4y ago
Finally someone puts this in plain black ink. I’m so fed up with this idea of the purely superficial pseudo chad “alpha male” who’s “alphanes” is being tall and posting pictures of his abs on Instagram. The worst part is that the ones propagating this idea the most is MEN to the pure advantage of women.
Take a peek inside the main trp sub, It’s all bro- science bullshit now. “Oh muh bbj”, “oh muh Muay Thai” “real men know how to fight.” If you’re so scared of being attacked carry a damn gun. There is a reason we don’t fight wars with spears and swords now you dolts. How many mma grapples you know is irrelevant if I put a .45 through your liver.
The insufferable cunts over at mrp are even worse. “wHAT’S yOur SQuaT AnD DeadlIFT sTat.” How is someone’s deadlift going to help fix their marriage....? I know two dudes who can deadlift almost 600lbs; I can literally see the metal bar bending from strain. Both of them are fat fucks and get no action; numbers don’t exist for women. The only thing women care about is how lean you look, no woman gives a fuck that you can bang out 75lb curls or how vascular you are; most women probably don’t even know what vascularity means.
I’m not at all dismissing the NECESSITY of exercise; keeps the mind clear, keeps your T high, makes your feel better, and it makes you physically stronger and aesthetically pleasing. Yes working out gives you a man’s body; how you get that mans body is irrelevant however. If you can maintain your abs doing 10 crunches and your biceps with 25lb curls then good for you; don’t let any of these pseudo “chads” tell you otherwise.
Now a final word to you mgtow’s, purple pill, black pill, and lazy fucking rp “enjoy the decline” fags. Since y’all talk a big game but want to put in exactly zero effort to fix society you’re going to get your way. Shits going to get exponentially worse since y’all are content watching Rome burn from the sidelines. So for one second don’t even think that you’re going to be insulated from this, heed my warning. What OP said is true, women will want more and more resources from big daddy government. Within the next 10-15 years you will either have to marry and be a slave to your wife; or you can “refuse” to marry and be taxed into poverty for being a single male. Y’all are fucking delusional of you thing the government is going to just let you “walk away.”
For the ones who can see the writing on the wall, learn to hunt and hoard information on how to work the land. That way when it all comes crashing down you can laugh at the “chads” who can’t stomach gutting a deer; then promptly blow their brains out. You don’t want bands of pretty boy wannabe “alphas” trying to steal your resources. Hey but on the bright side you’ll be able to actually maintain a harem and sire as many children as you want.
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
You are not wrong.
You are wrong, or uninformed. While lean is indeed the female trigger and not large muscles, most guys today can get MUCH faster and more impressive yields at the gym than in their marriage. This then turns into tangible gains in the marriage. Lifting is the first step for the unattractive fucks not getting any action- and the easiest and most rewarding. The stats requirement on MRP is to force guys to take the first step before cluttering up the boards.
no_its_a_subaru 4y ago
You must have missed the entire paragraph where I emphasize the necessity of exercise or are purposefully arguing apples to oranges. Most of the “unattractive fucks” as you describe them are probably fat as I’ve never heard of a skinny unicef looking mofo having issues getting laid.
Anybody that’s worked out consistently and methodically for 6+ months knows that after your beginner gains are done you can’t build muscle on a caloric deficit; You can’t build muscle out of nothing. So the beer gut lardasses who let let themselves go should not be trying to bulk up to gain strength so they can ask questions an not be berated by “mods” and “red comando’s” because their deadlift is “weak.” They should be lifting several times a week and waking multiple miles every day to maximize fat loss. This will make him more attractive to other women making his woman start to fall in-line because of herd mentality.
I’ll agree with you that making his wife physically attracted to him is probably the easiest part of the simps journey to reclaim his balls. However that’s a purely aesthetic endeavor where numbers are largely irrelevant if they are getting results. I could understand if you asked for a bf% for people asking questions. However, asking for my squat and deadlift numbers is dumb as you can lift heavy and still be a fat ass.
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
I can confirm the last clause at least from personal experience.
Bench: 300 pounds.
Deadlift: Not applicable, bad back, medically proscribed but probably a lot, if I was willing to risk it.
Squat: Again, bad back but I work out with 700 pound leg press 3X10.
BF%: Ummm....yah, much more accurate measure. I will suggest it in modchat. One of the guys is a crossfit dude so I am surprised he hasn't raised that point of order.
SpunkyDred 4y ago
But you can still compare them.
no_its_a_subaru 4y ago
Sure, but is it productive to do so...?
disayle32 4y ago
If walking away to starve the proverbial beast isn't the answer, then what is? How do we fix things?
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greyman0425 4y ago
Revolutions are generally no possible without collapse. Technological tyranny in some form is the result.
DeeplyDisturbed1 4y ago
Revolution is not functionally possible. There is no king. True power is now globally distributed. The CEO can be swapped out. The President can be replaced. Congress can be overturned twice a year, and the global players would just foot the bill for advertising to the masses for the next candidate.
My money is on a civil war. Not my WISH, just my expectation.
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
Right now there are multiple "revolutions" going on around the world so we will test this.
The Arab Spring suggests that you may be correct. The only way to force the elites to give up power is civil war- but even then it almost never succeeds and ALWAYS results in a bloodbath.
where_muh_good_mens 4y ago
There is a king to the masses. Look no further than his name on the title of your money.
All rulers command authority, not because someone gave it to them, but because they etched it out of their world with bloody fingers.
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DeeplyDisturbed1 4y ago
Violation of Rule 1.
BendAndSnap- 4y ago
Sex robots and VR. Not even joking. When women get to the point where they cant even compete with an a.i. and porn technology and artificial wombs in terms of what a man wants, they'll become the nicest, doting and sweetest women ever to save themselves from becoming irrelevant.
DeeplyDisturbed1 4y ago
You are wrong. They will simply make those things illegal.
A perfect example is prostitution. If prostitutes were widely available, with the marketplace creating the usual set of conditions to ensure affordability and quality, the world would look very different.
But our overseers cannot have that. There would very quickly become too few consumers and tax payers.
They know this.
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
I don't think they will be able to make these illegal. While they ignore, pervert, or shit on the Constitution 50 times before breakfast, I cannot see any possible reason or excuse they could find that would make sex robots illegal.
Even if they are able to shred the Constitution enough to find sex robots illegal, I think a sex robot ban would be about as successful as the marijuana ban- they would be easier to get than legal products!
DeeplyDisturbed1 4y ago
Sex robots are not in the Constitution, so there's that.
We have a very crisp clear second Amendment, and that is infringed on the daily. The government literally murders people in their homes for no reason over this amendment. So while I appreciate your optimism, you're going to have to forgive me if I don't hold out much hope.
The people who own large parts of the Western world are nervous about losing power due to the internet and the rise of Trump (among other things). They are punishing large groups of people for this right now.
That being said, I will be first on line to try one when they get close enough to real. For science, of course.
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
I think I changed my mind later in this thread. I was going by logic in this answer. The truth is that the Supreme Court will do whatever it wants.
The Tree of Liberty...
DeeplyDisturbed1 4y ago
It is an odd case. A lot of people have tried to break this down, but it is anyone's guess how this will turn out.
The only thing that seems obvious is the fact that they are taking this on now. I think they all see what's happening and realize what will happen to them if there are no Americans armed properly enough to defend the country should things get - weird.
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anon_likes_tendies 4y ago
We are already taxed to death. All they can do is steal even more.
RagingHardBull 4y ago
The concept that MGTOW men cannot walk away because they will be taxed is flawed. Working, selling of leisure time for green paper, is how they trap you into creating all those luxuries for women. Men are participating less and less in the work force. You can already see this happen. MGTOW advocates minimalism. Work less, have more free time, buy less shiney shit. This reduces the amount of "abundance" in society for women to steal.
There is no way to realistically tax the MGTOW man. In fact, they are already doing the opposite. They are taxing the rats on the rat wheel. If you are super productive and thus enrich society, then they want to tax you even more so they can redistribute it. That will just convert more of those guys to MGTOW minimalist men as they see no personal benefit from their own production. Pretty soon they will run out of real production to tax.
DeeplyDisturbed1 4y ago
Ghandi showed the power of passive resistance. We can do one better - Active Rejection. Also known as "walking away"
It is already happening and the MGTOW movement could use a good marketing team.
RagingHardBull 4y ago
Honestly, the best marketing team is incentives. Being "productive" has less and less perks / benefits associated with it. And, being "unproductive" is becoming easier and easier. Guys already have way fewer base needs than women. Most men were only on the rat wheel to try to compete with men on attracting a female "prize". However, with the juice no longer being worth the squeeze and the "prize" ending up being a dirty turd, guys don't even have that to motivate them.
You see it already in the male labor participation rate. Society blames men. They say they are "failing to launch" or "too addicted to video games". Society will invent any reason it can to blame men instead of developing empathy for men. That is why I know society won't realize it's mistake until it is too late. What will be society's loss will be men's gain as they no longer will be the pack mules of society.
BertTheWelder 4y ago
The rise of high-earning single women is what will prevent taxes skewing too much more harshly against single men.
Remember, taxes don’t punish single men. They punish single PEOPLE. As more women get into high paying jobs and aren’t able to find a husband, that means the number of women paying oppressive taxes is going to increase.
He’s spot on about just about everything, but it would be unconstitutional to tax single men at 75 percent taxes and single women at 25 percent. So to get more MGTOW tax dollars, they will also have to start taking more “cool wine aunt” tax dollars. Which they won’t do.
Instead, women will look to start gutting the budget for the military and other government programs that aren’t soft and touchy-feely. That’s my guess, anyway.
greyman0425 4y ago
If they cut that military budget they are fools. Eisenhower was right about the military(police) industrial complex in many ways. Except what is happening now. Who will protect whose high earning single woman in those jobs without a police and military in the numbers necessary?
You are correct, it is unconstitutional to tax men and women at different rates. Once passed, how long will it take for cases to wind their way through the Supreme Court? 1 year 5, 10 years before it is over turned good luck getting your money back.
I think it would be far easier to pass excise taxes on products predominately used by men. Give special tax incentives and kick backs to women, such as UBI will end-up women only. Student loan forgiveness is even an issue only because most of the people who would benefit would be female. etc... so in a convoluted way you get the same thing a heavy bachelor tax.
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
You guys have way more faith in the Supreme Imperial Court than is warranted. This court upheld slavery as a property right not long ago. They are almighty clowns in black robes and all you need is enough far leftists on the bench and they will do what leftists do. THey will start making laws, twisting words, giving benefits to their friends (women and minorities) and punishing their enemies (white people and single men). Believe it!
greyman0425 4y ago
Agreed if it ever becomes that stacked then we are all fucked.
goodmansaysfuckyou Mod 4y ago
Well prior to 1913 a Federal income tax was unconstitutional except during a time of war when the central government would need the funds to protect and defend the union. The Feds didn't want to stop collecting the taxes that they were getting to pay civil war expenses, so they tried to tax landowners. The Supreme Court shot that down, so they said fuck it and created the 16th amendment. The system is a parasite and parasites must be fed. Each year the costs get higher.
Women vote and they outnumber us. There is nothing currently in place to stop them from taxing the male population at a disproportionate rate. All they have to do is have the right number of women and pussies to enact another amendment or modify the current one.
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
If they can create "eddies and penumbras" to find the "right of privacy" in the Constitution then they can do anything.
If they can define that "right of privacy" as "woman able to murder baby at any stage even after birth" then they can do anything.
If they can define "equal protection" as "people with colaration slightly darker than Casper the friendly ghost get "extra protection" then they can do anything.
Some commie bitch judge will simply write an opinion saying something like: "What the Founders meant by Equal protection with respect to taxation is that taxation only applies to the family unit, or traditionally disadvantaged minorities (especially wahymen) and not the individual. Since the Appellant man is an individual claiming he should not be required to pay the 95% tax and is not a member of the tax paying family unit, the State law mandating disproportionate taxation rates is Constitutional."
Am I crazy? Vote for this current crop of radical feminist demo-rats and watch it happen in 20 years.
where_muh_good_mens 4y ago
The 16th doesn't create any new taxation. It just reaffirms what is already known, that those who have income derived from sources that could be directly taxed can be taxed without apportionment.
Since the ability to be taxed is a voluntary act, then earning 'income' as a source of taxation is also a voluntary act.
This is still as true as it is today as it was prior to 1913. The only difference is that after 1913, the federal government did not need to uniformly tax those willing participants of its private federal commercial enterprise.
Income != wages
The bottom line is this, if you willingly make yourself available to an organization for profit, protection, or other 'benefits', then all your sources are 'income based'. You voluntarily gave yourself to that organization and are now obligated to provide your end of the bargain, which currently sits around 35% of whatever federal reserve notes you bring in as "profit".
The 16th amendment is always used incorrectly to prove how the "government" oversteps its jurisdiction, but having people believe that is an unintended consequence that favors tyrant overlords. People are not taxed, corporations are. If you are considered a corporation by your government, then you should probably figure out why they think that. I can tell you, on this point alone, that they are not wrong to tax willing participants. The grey areas being where non-corporations are taxed because they could have been eligable to earn profit within interstate commerce (a voluntary activity). But that is a more involved and less obvious argument.
BertTheWelder 4y ago
You’re right about the facts, for sure. However, I think that the country is so polarized that we will never see ANY constitutional amendment in our lifetimes.
If I’m wrong about that, you’re certainly correct that women could push through an amendment to tax single males at whatever rate they wanted. The fact that they haven’t been able to push through the BS “equal rights amendment” shows they don’t yet have nearly enough strength to get the constitution amended for any purpose.
I agree with you that they’d love the endgame you lay out. I’m just skeptical that in our broken democracy that a SERIOUS change to the constitution is ever going to happen. Fingers crossed I’m right on that one.
where_muh_good_mens 4y ago
In fact, willing participants of an organization are not subject to anti-discrimination laws. The federal government can say and do whatever it wants with its employees or 'benefit recipients'.
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some1arguewithme 4y ago
Rome did institute a bachelor's tax tho.
Doc_Sithicus 4y ago
So did Poland from 1946 to 1973.
DeeplyDisturbed1 4y ago
Wow. Like /u/Original_Username7 said, this is epic.
I actually enjoyed reading this. It really pulls from a lot of themes in other things I have read - from 1984, to a Brave New World, to Atlas Shrugged (perhaps especially).
where_muh_good_mens 4y ago
I've been meaning to read those for decades now. Everytime I get low enough on my hobby stack, someone gifts me a book that I was interested in and all others get pushed aside. At this point, I should just download the audio book and listen to it while I sleep.
DeeplyDisturbed1 4y ago
Whether you read them or not, you clearly received their messages. Your writing sounds a lot like them. Their predictions are coming true before our eyes.
goodmansaysfuckyou Mod 4y ago
Seconded.
Also don't forget Fahrenheit 451 and Clockwork Orange. These two along with the ones already mentioned are old school dystopian classics intended to be a wake up call but seem to be used more as a how to manual than a warning.
where_muh_good_mens 4y ago
Yeah, people know what is going on deep down inside. Turning their back on it to avoid their responsibility is when the truth gets covered.
justtenofusinhere 4y ago
I think you are making something very complicated out of something very simple. Men and women do not want the same things. Women want benefits. Men want purity. These aren't ideological, but pragmatical requirements of evolution.
Women need the resources--genes, food, shelter, protection and parental investment to raise children who can survive and reproduce themselves. Men need to make sure the child for which they are providing all of the foregoing are in fact his.
The problem is that a woman might try to get each of the above from a different man. If she can do that, that benefits her and her child--at the expense of all the men not providing the genes.
Men have an incentive to provide resources such as food, shelter and protection in exchange for also passing along his genes. Prior to modern science and DNA, a woman's "integrity" was key to ensuring that her child was also his child. Without DNA testing, or even sophisticated culture, evolution had to hard wire certain cues into men and women. Women are duplicitous, men are jealous.
The problem now is that women have had all sexual restraints removed. They are taking full-short term-advantage to get the best genes and resources from several different sources. And they are doing so openly. Men can see this and they. Also, women are no longer exhibiting the evolutionary signals to show they are commitment worthy.
For the first time, perhaps ever, men's conscious and subconscious are on the same page. Women are no longer signalling evolutionary fitness for commitment and men can clearly see what is going on. Men are left to focus on things that matter. Turns out, that generally doesn't include killing themselves for nothing. Who'd have figured?
where_muh_good_mens 4y ago
I explained all of this.
I explained this too.
Men want feminine affection, accomplishment, equity, status and to multiply themselves. Passing genetic material after he dies is a relatively useless goal in the overall scheme of hormones, chemicals released during intimacy and having a supportive partner respect him and desire him. But I mean not to quibble, just to point out that men people don't have children as a means to pass along their genetic material, it's not their purpose for having children anyways.
I explained the root problem for how this happens though.
This is a good observation, but men don't need women to show they are commitment worthy as that is a mans evolved value to a woman. The woman is the one that has to bear and raise offspring with or without the man, so she is the one that seeks out commitment from them. There will always be men willing to put a baby in a woman, and those qualities that the man has that proves he is willing to stick around are relatively useless to modern women with the welfare state. So they let their guards down on that front.
jp_mra 4y ago
Communism destroys the reward system for work. Why work hard when that guy sitting under the tree all day gets paid the same amount? An increasingly authoritarian system is needed to force workers to work and pay crushing taxes. The system eventually collapses when no one works, nothing gets done, and starvation is rampant. Communism will eventually backfire on women, starvation plus loss of all legal rights.
Case in point, North Korea suffered mass starvation when the government forced distribution of food. The hard working farmer had all his food taken away to be distributed - so he stopped farming.
Educating men and women on capitalism and weak government is the only solution I see.
where_muh_good_mens 4y ago
Correction, men taking the initiative to learn the law and hold government accountable under God is the only solution. It really doesn't matter the system of government imposed, as long as the men willingly consent to be a part of it and are diligent to ensuring it benefits them and serves a supreme authority.
Capitalism will be the result of men understanding how the law works, because their capacity to prosper and own private property is dependant on that.
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Sheriff,
You have outdone yourself this time around. This post was nothing short of a masterpiece. It truly is succinct in making connections that I never thought existed. There is indeed a spiral of immorality going on within today's society. I'm not sure if anything can actually be done to correct the current path we are all on. MGTOW, TRP, MRA etc are merely a reaction to this madness. When it all boils down to it, females have been given too much without actually earning these things. They have more rights than men and are praised for simple things. It is a bit stomach turning to see it all unfold in real life.
I'm what most women would describe as a good man. However, it was when I was the receiving end of true female nature that I woke up. I am confident that more and more men are waking up. That is what matters. In order to change society, good men must check out of it. Simply starve the gynocentric society of resources. For example, try your best to not shop. Save your money, invest and do not participate in pop culture. Do not vote for anyone who supports big gov either. Oppose anything that isn't meritocratic. These are simple steps but one that must be taken. I do not support Hollyweird [I haven't been to the movies in years] and I generally do not shop. I save my money and invest. It's a small action but it builds up.
where_muh_good_mens 4y ago
Astute logical conclusion you made there. And it's absolutely correct. Slaves have no ability or agency to change their masters wishes. They can but beg for a softer whip.
Voting is a rigged game. Voting is currently consent to being governed by a commercial corporation. Dependants have control over their own resources and that group is growing out of control. The hard working men of the middleclass is shrinking every year. Before long conservative values will be ancient history.
This is a great idea. Always have a backup plan. But really, good men should be expressing their unwilling and compelled association to this communist monstrosity. The more men that do this, the less fraud will be possible, and therefore the more freedom and liberties are recognized.
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We are all currently enslaved in this clown world. It has become a twisted joke. There is a reason why the propagandists [the dishonest press] does not bother to address the valid arguments of people on the MRA, TRP, MGTOW etc spectrum. They resort to libel and slander because they lack the moral and intellectual muscle to refute our points. Taxation in this country has become the ultimate form of slavery. The profits of a man's labor is unjustly given to degenerates, females, military aged invaders [aka 'refugees'], supporters of infanticide [abortion], gender experiments and societal chaos.
The only sensible thing to do is to starve them of the resources needed to enslave us further. I take pride in how frugal I am. I do not spend more than I need. Not a single cent of mine is transferred over to; media, Hollyweird, the dishonest press [aka mainstream media] or anyone that morally supports degeneracy. I encourage everyone to do the same. Do not support companies that operate in bad faith, provide no monetary/moral support to cucks or those seeking to enslave you. Do not let females have a say in how you spend your hard earned money. Once you start to check out of society, you feel a certain level of emancipation. It has felt that way for me. No kids, wife, marriage, not purchasing a home, avoiding Hollyweird etc. THIS is just step one in building a better society.
Ultimately, the entire political body of the Western World is rigged. I'm not a gung-ho Republican/Conservative by any stretch. I am Right Wing, period. I want; meritocracy, American Nationalism, low to no taxes, law & order, iron clad 2A, criminals punished to the maximum allowed by law, illegal aliens deported and their bastard offspring stripped of citizenship, Marxist scum removed from every institution of higher learning and enemies of the West sent out.
It is the only sane way to go about it. Start by mentoring young men around you. I have converted a few Socialists into 'centrists' by nudging them in the right way. Next, vote with your dollars. Do not provide clicks to the degenerate media, do not support their content, obtain citizenship in a foreign country [invest there as well]... There are a ton of steps I have taken to 'decouple' myself from society. In my everyday life, I look as normal as the next guy. I don't eat at restaurants either [they hire tons of illegals]. I also try my best not to date/mingle with 'femicunts', the low I.Q, immoral or pop culture influenced tramps.
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
You left out the two most important things:
Arm up. There is a collapse coming and the people with guns will beat the people without.
They already can't keep the lights on in Commiefornia and it is going to get worse- much, much worse before the dawn.
goodmansaysfuckyou Mod 4y ago
Amen brother
where_muh_good_mens 4y ago
Man, I commend your efforts to avoid contributing unnecessarily to the hedonist media and perverted consumerism that has taken over the once coveted patriotic pride, but I don't agree with your methods.
It's not that I think they are counter-productive, just not accomplishing the goal you are setting out to accomplish.
To reiterate:
Does government know that you don't consent? Does government have evidence in their possession that you are coerced and compelled to use their communist private enterprise? If they don't, then you are helping foreign bankers separate you from your countrymen. If you haven't legally declared yourself as the People, then you are currently one of the communist party members. Sorry to say it that way, but it's the damn truth.
Your citizenship is default: "Commercially dependant slave" You need to be an "American National" and instruct your government if you want to weed out the perversion and fraud that is perpetrated by their unholy financial dictators. Only then does the rest of society whom is regulated by them fall in line to your superior authority. Until then, the prospect of leaving is the only light at the end of the tunnel you have.
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Sheriff,
In the grand scheme of things, I am one person. I try my best to influence others within my social sphere to reject hedonism in all its disgusting variations. Part of that, is using the power of currency. I do not let the scum within society benefit from me in any manner. Without going into too much detail, I keep my taxes as low as humanly possible within NYS. That means; avoiding shopping, never buying new things, voting against the current monopoly political power, paying cash when possible, investing my money very wisely, never shopping on major holidays, rejecting marriage, encouraging those around me to embrace a similar mindset, not interacting with females at work etc.
Speaking of work, there are not that many females in my industry. Thank GOODNESS. I do not have to interact with them. The ones that I do come across are basically on pins and needles. In my everyday life, I am a 'nice guy'. Friendly, smile on my face, well spoken/mannered... Basically an upstanding citizen. But I avoid mentoring females at all costs. I do not provide fodder for these crocodiles. I'm just the 'black guy' at the office. Most of them know very little about me. If I told you how little I spend on food per month, you would think I am lying lol. Quite frankly, I have decoupled myself from modern society to the best of my ability. I only use the bare essentials. As a NYC resident, it is difficult but I do my best. It's my form of protest if you will.
My real impact is that I mentor others to think like me. That is where I have a real impact. People like me in my industry [I rather PM you than mention it here] are a rarity. Females naturally assume I am on their side LMFAO. It brings my great joy to watch them sink or swim. I mentor and mold young black/hispanic men to reject modern society. Not in an obnoxious manner though. I nudge them towards the truth.
My parents country of origin recognizes dual-citizenship. Which is good, that country is a sh*t show [no feminism but all the other problems of the 3rd world]. I try my best to exercise all of my 'rights' in this gynocentric clown state known as NYS. This place is a fu*king joke! Bums, scum, beggars, commies and filth everywhere. I cannot wait to move out of NYS!!!
where_muh_good_mens 4y ago
I understand. I do commend you on your efforts, especially with helping young men fight against their gynocentric urges and programming. I am not meaning to detract from what you are doing or to belittle your goals. I am simply trying to clarify something very important with the manner in which you contemplate solutions for yourself and your community.
If you have a "tribe account #", then you have no recognized rights. My point is that if you want freedom, you will find it in NY, just the same as every other state of the union. But you have to learn how you were placed in a jurisdiction that doesn't have any rights first.
The trick that people fell for, wasn't to give women unconditional care without responsibility, it was to give their responsibility unconditionally to a foreigner. You would be wise to study the law here, to understand how you became a willing trustee to a communist collective. Only then will you be able to instruct and hold accountable that organization for the benefit of the people. The greatest impact you can have against an organization that has conquered your neighbors, is criminally prosecute them for fraud. But you can't do that or even legally state that they are fraudulent unless you prove they have injured you, YOU SPECIFICALLY. It is not "us" against "them" as we have been led to believe. It is "me" against "them"; "you" against "them", "him" against "them". Once you have declared yourself no longer a privileged member of this organization you despise, this organization that jails your brothers, steals from your brothers, and supports single mother trash, then and only then, do you retain the right of redress and bare the royal seal; and only then do you have the authority over that which you despise, to create a better organization, one that serves the People and not themselves.
All that you can do, will never come close to the impact that it would without first declaring your true intentions and allegiance. If you are serving a foreign god, then that foreign god will continue stealing and pillaging your country and neighbors, regardless of how much you let it steal and pillage from you.
If you are a willing participant to something evil, then don't be surprised when that evil takes away your dignity and serves as the interloper to your God and true Authority.
“But our rulers can have authority over such natural rights only as we have submitted to them. The rights of conscience we never submitted, we could not submit. We are answerable for them to our God. The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. If it be said, his testimony in a court of justice cannot be relied on, reject it then, and be the stigma on him. Constraint may make him worse by making him a hypocrite, but it will never make him a truer man. It may fix him obstinately in his errors, but will not cure them. Reason and free enquiry are the only effectual agents against error.”
― Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia
"It does not take a majority to prevail… but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men."
― Samuel Adams
It has always been known (until recently) that you can submit to any authority you want, you can make yourself a willing slave to any inferior power by your consent and acquiesces. You must declare who you are and your non-consent explicitly. Have you done that? Have you shown with evidence that you are not privileged to this communist monstrosity that pays single mothers to sit on their asses all day while you work to support them? If not, then none of your actions will materialize into freedom and you will inadvertently direct men into supporting it as well. You must seek to discover the Truth. You must pray to discover what is behind the hidden veil that keeps men and women docile slaves. You must prove you do not wish for it and to get the fuck out of your country, or anywhere in the world you go, you will be followed and made a good example for the rest of the monkeys to see what happens when you pick the lock to your comfortable cage they made for you.
digitalEarthling 4y ago
Coool