You get to see all kinds of women at WAATGM and here. Young, old, smart, dumb, educated, dull, pretty, not so pretty, and past their prime - we see them all.
Almost all women here complain about their predicaments. We see all kinds of those too: Leftover/never married. Divorced at 29 and seeking again. 22 year old women with 3 kids, demanding high value men. 40 year old divorcees, asking for second marriages. 60 year old phase II carousel riders lamenting that most men her age can't get it up and that men 30 years her junior just want to use her as a sexual pin cushion. And more.
They all have one thing in common, though:
She made a lot of life choices that got her to the point of creating a profile, post, article or blurb that we profiled. She chose the life situations and circumstances. She chose the men. Knowingly chose those men. She chose the friends. She chose to have sex. She chose to have sex with certain men. She chose to use substances. She chose to get intoxicated with said substances. She chose to get pregnant. She chose her baby daddy (or increasingly, baby daddies). She chose to have her child(ren). She chose her husband(s). She chose the lives she gave those men. She chose to divorce them or she chose to make their lives so bad that they had no choice but to divorce her. She chose her life.
SHE chose it. No one chose it for her. No one else lived her life for her. All of them, every one of them, were her decisions. No one else's. Hers.
She CHOSE it. She made a long series of deliberate decisions that got her to where she is. No one forced her to choose. No one put a gun to her head and forced her to choose. No one forced her to use that substance. No one forced her to have sex. No one forced her to have sex with the men she picked. No one else limited her choices. If her choices were limited, it was a situation of her own making.
Women are unique in that they have near-unlimited choice in pretty much everything they are and do. Work? Part time full time flex time FMLA, 1st 2d or 3d shift, how and when you want. If you can't do certain things, get a man to help you or do it for you. Or, get a beta bux to marry you and don't work at all.
School? Women get preferential treatment everywhere. Women get preferential grade treatment.
Choice in men? Women choose the men they have sex with and marry. Women's choices are now virtually unlimited. All a woman needs is a phone and membership in 2 or 3 dating apps, and she has thousands of men a swipe or text away. Whenever a woman wants sex, she can get it, from whom she wants, any way she wants. It necessarily follows that the sex women have is their choice, fully and completely.
Men, you know what your choices are when it comes to work? Work or starve. Work or die.
Your choices when it comes to school are limited to whatever your talents get you.
Your choices for women are pretty much "take what you can get" and "catch as catch can". If you can Game her or attract her and she responds, you're limited to whatever she's willing to give you, when she's willing to give it to you. Yes, you can walk away, but then, you're not getting sex from her and you're back to the drawing board.
So when you read these profiles, remember:
She chose it. She chose them. She chose this.
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Bellissimo
rubix_fucked 4y ago
Yes a woman's choices are unlimited while she retains her youth and figure. These women price themselves right out of the market for most men. The value of such women is plain to see for Chad. Certainly he isn't looking for commitment but he knows they are and the currency in use is sex.
These women are used for what they are worth (warm hole) and discarded when their usefulness is at an end. Once she has that first kid her value has greatly depreciated. Chad will still take her for a spin. Billy beta will too but more and more even Billy is starting to see nothing but bad investments because there is always a younger women looking to get into Billy's wallet.
Walking away is the smartest thing you can do.
jihocech 4y ago
But this not the kind of equality we wanted...
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You see the proof of this choice with single mothers who have multiple kids by different fathers... it is beyond coincidence that they keep ending up in the same situation. It's almost like an inversion of reality, where the worse the man is the more appealing he becomes. If you've been in prison, you automatically become irresistible like James Bond 007. She also chooses to become an alcoholic and to lay about on a cat shit covered sofa all day long.
loneliness-inc Mod 4y ago
Always, forever, about everything and nothing.
I forgot about our matron saint, Alyssa!
beenthere789 4y ago
Yes... But there is a corrolary to your point, speaking as an older gent who use to date a lot and really got to see and understand them, their hamsters and their psychology. Yes, they had all those choices. Choices are good.. In fact, they are great. When you have no choice with what to do with your life it really sucks. Ask the people living in old age nursing homes.
But what they didnt undersatnd or expect was the consequences od those shitty choices.
Which is why, even if they appear happy on the outside, get to know them just a little bit, and you will find that just below the surface they are the most insecure, depressed, angry, unhappy, lonely, truly miserable human beings that I prefer to stay far away from, in every sense of the word.
NippyRex 4y ago
This is why they love all the uplifting Instagram posts, horoscopes, nice messages on the inside of Dove chocolates, fortune cookies, and other "empowering" platitudes. They are in a constant state of requiring pick-me-ups
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With the real bad girls enjoying a nasty cocaine habit lol and having sex to pay for it... Like one of my exes
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You had me in the first half, not gonna lie
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They understood. They knew and understood the consequences of their choices.
They knew if they fucked, they could get knocked up or STDs.
They knew they could get pumped and dumped.
They knew it was just sex. Those men didn't promise them anything else. They said things like "Oh, we don't have to get serious and mess up a good thing" and "Let's just see how it goes". Those players and "fuckboys" didn't make any promises.
And even if they did, it's just talk. None of it means anything until someone stands up in front of witnesses and a judge or priest and says "I do". Until then, things we say aren't worth the effort we took to say them.
Girls aren't stupid. When they get with a fuckboy, they know what they're getting. When a girl becomes some guy's fuckbuddy or friend with benefits, she knows what she's getting into. And they're OK with it because they like fucking the guy. If they're not OK with it, they're free to stop fucking their FwB or FB anytime they want. They're free to avoid fuckboys. They're free to choose nice beta guys and settle down with them.
But.... they don't, and they aren't. They're still fucking fuckboys. They're still KNOWINGLY getting into FwB and FB situations. And they're still making those nice beta guys wait until they're done riding all the horsies on the carousel.
Girls are brought up from birth being very carefully taught, trained, and shown what the sexual dance is all about. Girls are very carefully taught, trained and shown what men find attractive, what men want, and how to give those things to men.
I give girls more credit than this. They're not stupid. So no, I don't believe girls didn't know the consequences. All they have to do is look around. All they have to do is see what other girls are doing, and what happens to them. They know exactly what they're doing, how they're doing it, and why they're doing it. The problem girls have is that men now know these things too, and the girls don't like it.
ogrilla99 Mod 4y ago
I agree wholeheartedly that they know the consequences. But I do think they're in denial about some of them. That doesn't excuse them of the responsibility, but I think they genuinely think that somehow, half this stuff won't happen to them.
That feeling that everything will turn out okay in the end only comes from a sheltered upbringing, where everything is handed to you so easily, that you can't even fathom that the good times will ever end. They choose not to even investigate what "bad times" can mean.
For example, hot girls who were hot since puberty (as opposed to late bloomers), they acknowledge that at some point their looks will fade. And they acknowledge that, yes, that means they'll get less attention from guys. But they fail to see exactly what that means. In their mind, "lack of attention" means that, at a party, the hot guy might not come up right away and buy her a drink. Maybe she might have to smile at him, or, in the absolute worst case scenario she can think of, she'll have to go up to him and say 'hi' in order to kickstart the process of him asking her out.
But in reality, it means that hot guy doesn't even *see* her. She becomes part of the furniture. And if she says 'hi', he'll say hi back and then move on without even glancing. Even worse, she won't even be invited to the party. Her phone won't go from 100 thirsty guys every day to 50. It'll go to zero. They don't want to think about that.
This is still their responsibility. The information is out there. They can simply ask some single 40 year old woman what it's like when, far from guys no longer flirting, they no longer even notice her presence. And if she needs help moving furniture or fixing a flat tire, she either does it herself or has to pay for it like everyone else. There's a reason they buy so many cats. They have zero human interaction with anyone who gives 2 shits about them, and have no possibility of having any in the future.
Does a hot girl know what it's like to end up so disconnected from the world that you could literally die in your apartment and no one would care or notice until a month later when the smell causes your neighbors to complain to the landlord? Solitary confinement is considered an inhumane punishment for a reason, and lots of women (not counting the numerous men) who fail to find a man before it's too late have condemned themselves to it.
Again, I'm not excusing them for lacking this understanding. But regardless, they don't have it. They willfully choose to live in a delusion that everything will work out in the end even if they don't spend any time or effort ensuring what that end will be.
BlackPilledYekke 4y ago
Consider for a moment
Why wouldn’t you use and abuse this with abandon?
If the majority of men continue to play along, this system stays in place, and gets worse every single day. Because why not?
silly_birb 4y ago
The hypocrisy is that those women think "men should not have fun when peak in value after 30yo".
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Just because they decide it's time to change their requirements it does not follow that the man should follow suit. They just love it when older men like Brad Pitt get younger models!
whittlingman 4y ago
Reading this makes me think a big part of what is written about here, is the holdover of how society WAS, versus, how society is NOW.
Essentially, less than 100 years ago, women WEREN’T able to choose many of those things. They were able to get good jobs, educations, etc. leading them to being forced to marry young, then couldn’t get divorced, but it wasn’t culturally appropriate to ask out men, so women literally had to choose with what men asked them out, eventually being asked to marry, which they may have accepted because of a need for better housing, etc, cause men had good jobs. Even when married, men could choose to get their wives pregnant and women didn’t really have a choice in that. It was heavily frowned upon to get pregnant out of wedlock. Abortion wasn’t a big thing, nor was divorce and families had like 10+ kids.
I’m not saying any of this was bad or good. I’m saying it actually put women in a position to NOT be responsible for the things that happened to them. Leaving women to culturally grow to not feel responsibility for many of those things. Moms taught daughters, friends shared their thoughts on how life was “it is what it is”.
Hence, the concept of men being responsible for women. Chivalry. Paying for dates. Women and children first. Only men being drafted. Etc.
Again, not saying it was good or bad. Just clearly men culturally took on a sense of responsibility as result of gender norms, just as woman weren’t expected to be responsible, so they accepted that mentality.
Then women gained the ability to make those choices at a breakneck speed. First voting, then jobs, then housing, divorces, college, abortions, single motherhood, casual sex, etc, dating apps.
Flash forward to today.
Women culturally haven’t changed, as that takes times. Culturally there’s still this holdover of the accepted mentality amongst women: of not being held responsible for actions; or the expectations that someone else is generally held responsible, not women.
But they have the vast opportunity to make choices legally and culturally.
While some women flourish in this new environment they’re the ones who got the concept of responsibility and probably have skills, are smart, end up getting good jobs, create great families.
All other women, haven’t got the memo that they are NOW responsible (like men have always been) for their actions and choices, as they ask the mothers or grandmothers for advice, or friends who have been raised by other mothers and grand mothers advice and cultural and mentality influences - of its not a woman’s place to be responsible.
So, there’s a disconnect that might take a few generations to work itself out of the culture.
goodmansaysfuckyou Mod 4y ago
Exactly. SHE CHOSE IT!
Women hace the extent of everything in the workd at the tip of their manicured fingers.
Men have to work and fight for every single thing that they create, need, want, or have.
Only now men are CHOOSING to not deal with, contribute to, or try and placate women. Let them choose to figure it out on their own.
malemedicine 4y ago
Oh man, this should be stickied.
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Like her knickers, always in a constant state of stickied with all that Chad spunk dripping down her legs...
Swampos 4y ago
Preach
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moorekom Mod 4y ago
It's fine to link to manosphere subs.
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moorekom Mod 4y ago
Thanks dude.
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Captain-Tripps 4y ago
I don't get your hate towards divorced women. I'm on here a lot for the lolz, but from what I've seen, your feelings on that front are more personal than general WATGMG. Y'all seem have this whole, find a girl young and grow old with her together, mindset. That's basically the exact mindset that women getting divorced have or had, but then their schmuck of a ex turned out to be lying when they said they wanted to same thing, thus the divorce.
If you are grouping divorcees in with the others, you are excluding from your dating pool the exact type it seems you guys want. It is such a stretch to put these divorcees in the same camp as the 3kids+OnlyFansIncome type, that I don't understand why you would even do it. It's fine to not want a premade family, but don't limit yourself in such a broad way. That's just making it that much harder to find someone who will make you happy.
Editing to add, that's just my opinion though.
Porphyrogennetos 4y ago
No, women initiate divorces at far higher rates. You're wrong about this.
Captain-Tripps 4y ago
I wasn't talking about initiating divorce at all. I honestly should have been more specific, but that's my fault. The part I don't understand is the divorced at 29 as a negative. It boggles my mind.
[deleted] 4y ago
"Who Hurt You??"
"Why do you HATE women??"
Come on, man. You should know by now that that shit doesn't fly here.
This isn't hate. This isn't even about divorced women. This is about protecting men from toxic women.
Bull-fucking-shit. Women initiate 70% + of divorces. Almost no one anymore, men or women, goes into a marriage thinking it's forever. Divorces are incredibly easy to get now. (They're easier for women, especially women with children - all she has to do is get divorced and get the kids, and she's got a guaranteed years-long income stream, all because she was married to a guy and had his kid.) Most divorces result from "growing apart", i.e. "unhappy" women who just don't want to be married anymore, or just don't want to be married to the men they picked. It's not the men who are driving them to divorce. They just don't want to be married to their husbands anymore, so they leave their marriages. They're deciding to divorce. So I'm calling bullshit on this whole "their husbands are liars and didn't want to stay married" crap. Because it is.
I'm a married guy so I'm not dating any of these kinds of women. This isn't about including or excluding this or that woman or this or that grouping of women from any dating pool. Men are free to date, or not date, or fuck, or not fuck, any woman who's willing or wants to fuck them, including women profiled here. I just think they should go into it with eyes wide open and knowing full well who and what these women are. Society and women work very, very hard to conceal these things from men, precisely because when men know these things, men avoid relationships with them.
Don't shed any tears for women profiled here, Cappy, and don't worry about them. Most of them will get someone to wife them up, and all of them will get their basic needs met, courtesy of the American male taxpayer. I don't feel one microgram of pity for any of them, especially when my tax dollars support them.
This is simply a reminder of facts: That these women chose the men they now don't want. These women chose the shitbags who pump and dump them. These women chose the sex, the kinds of sex, the baby daddies, the husbands, and the divorces. These women chose to marry their husbands and then chose to mistreat them and divorce them. They chose it. They chose it all.
It's not men's fault. It's not some beta bux's fault that these things happened. It's not men's fault that women make the choices they make.
Instead of asking yourself "is this a personal thing with the author", maybe you should be asking "is what he's saying true, or not true?"
Captain-Tripps 4y ago
Okay. First, who the hell goes into marriage thinking it isn't forever? That's the entire point of marriage. I understand that we all come from different viewpoints and that's probably where we are losing each other.
I said in another comment that it is most likely my fault for not being specific to the point I don't understand, so I will clarify. I don't understand the negative of a woman who is divorced at 29, especially given the preference for women with a low count in this sub.
That is fucking awful if true. Who the fuck marries someone if they don't want it forever ? I get that I'm projecting my beliefs, but there is no way that I am the only one who feels that way.
Child support isn't spousal support, lol. If the child is past the weaning stages, the presumption that the mother is the best is not applicable anymore. Custody is a whole thing that is completely seperate from alimony, and it takes (I think 20+ years) an assload of time together for lifelong spousal support to be a thing, and around (I think) 10 years of marriage before even alimony is even a thing.
See, I'm a married woman so I just don't understand the whole way marriage is just treated as some casual shit. Divorce is a big thing, as marriage is a big thing. That's why I just don't see how it's a negative. I just do not have the capacity to imagine it being so meaningless that being divorced is a negative.
Marriage is a big deal (to me atleast, but maybe I'm alone on that one). If someone is getting divorced at 29, it is just hard for me to apply the same scenario that you guys assume is the norm. Like, I'm trying. But what's even the point of going through marriage if someone is going to casually toss it with the recycling.
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I told you. I laid it out for you in great detail.
She's already been married once. She's already been "ruined" for marriage because she just had a "bad experience" with it. Choosing whom she will marry is the single most important decision she will ever make in her life, and she fucked it up. Or, she was dissatisfied with her decision. Who's to say she won't make the same decision about the next man who decides he'll take a chance on her? She's ALREADY either fucked up the decision, or she had a good man and she got rid of him because "um, he's just not hawt enough" or "he doesn't make enough money" or "this isn't fun" or whatever other fucked up immature reason she decides to leave him.
To sum it up - she already fucked up in choosing who to marry; or she had a good guy and she ruined a good thing.
Another thing is that you are presuming that these marriage failures are 100% the man's fault. Not so. Both are at "fault". But the men usually decide to stick it out if they can at all. It's the WOMEN who are ending and leaving these marriages. AT LEAST 70% of divorces are initiated by the woman.
You think a woman divorced at 29 has a low N? HAHHAHAHAHAHA Are you being serious right now? I've met too many women with Ns in double digits by age 27. I have no idea what you're talking about right now - most women can easily get to double digit Ns.
It is awful, and it is true. Women initiate AT LEAST 70% of divorces, usually because they just don't want to be married anymore. And no one anymore thinks marriage is forever. The attitude now is "well if it doens't work out we can just get divorced".
Almost every bit of what you wrote in that graf is a lie. They don't call it "chilimony" for nothing -there's a spousal support element built into it. Child support is WAY WAY more than what it actually costs to support a child. WAY more. Divorced women get custody of their children 85% of the time. Women are almost conclusively presumed to be the "better" parent. When it comes to child custody, all an ex wife has to say is "I WANT THE KIDS" and the court will order that she gets the kids. Men in divorces are told "don't even fight custody, you're going to lose, the judge will give custody to your ex. Don't even ask for custody. You will lose and the judge will penalize you even for trying to make an issue out of it." To lose custody, a divorced woman practically has to be an insane, hospitalized for mental illness, destitute, homeless, jobless, incarcerated drug addict with hypodermics sticking out of her arms 24/7 and who is threatening to murder the kids.
Alimony is based on the ability of the recipient to support herself. If there is a wide disparity in earning power between payor and payee, the payee WILL get alimony, at least temporarily.
You are just 100% wrong about every word of this. Not one shred of it is true. Not one.
Go talk to your divorced girlfriends and you'll see what I mean.
You're the woman. You're of the sex that's doing this. You tell me.
This is not men's fault. Men are not doing this. Women are. Women are not divorcing men because they are lying schmucks. They're divorcing good men, stand up guys, because they "just don't want to be married anymore" and because they treat these men like shit and because they cheat on those men. So don't come in here lying to me that this is men's fault and that everyone treats marriage like it's a big deal. I know a lot more about this than you do, I've seen more of this, and I've talked to and counseled dozens of men who have had their lives upended by some bitch they loved because she just didn't think he was "good enough" for her.
So I don't buy this "marriage is a big deal" bullshit for one fucking second. If "marriage is a big deal" to women, women wouldn't be blowing up their marriages to the tune of 50% of all marriages ending in divorce, and women initiating at least 70% of divorces, mostly because they're just "unhappy".
AzN1337c0d3r 4y ago
https://ibb.co/ZV9pW7k
https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/i0k38g/my_25f_husband_27m_demands_evidence_everytime_we/fzpz7hc/
Would not engage this poster anymore. She already ruined a marriage with her argumentative BS that she is apparently literally professional at.
Talk about throwing a marriage away...
Captain-Tripps 4y ago
Lordy, you're not accurate on a bit of this (the legal bits), but I understand where you are coming from since it is the common belief of many people.
I mean, men and women can get there. It seems like people get laid the most in their 20's. If they are in a faithful relationship, that number doesn't increase.
I feel like you are using the same flawed application of statistics that I see redditors use when it comes to racial matters. There are generally things behind that statistic that tell a fuller story.
I have never even heard or seen that before.
I mean, I'm pretty sure that courts stopped using the tender years doctrine as it favored one sex over the other. The best interest standard doesn't really work like that, but I completely understand how it seems like it does.
It depends on how long they have been married, really. It's partly why Britney Spears didn't have to pay hella alimony to that dude she married in Vegas.
I mean... I study this, but whatev.
Literally not anyone I know divorced has that attitude, but at the same time... I hang out with people who share my values, which is why I'm trying to understand this alternate perspective.
Come on, you know that doesn't make any sense. That is as honest an argument tactic as me asking you some insensitive shit like, "You're the man. You're the sex that keeps shooting up schools. You tell me why."
See, you are misinterpreting what I was originally not understanding, but I understand why now. You seem to be approaching this from a 100% the woman's fault view, no matter what. I was approaching this from a, this category doesn't seem to fit with the rest, view. I was trying to explain why I didn't understand that category's inclusion in the list, but I hadn't figured out how to state that concisely. That is my bad.
I get that you have your viewpoint, but I didn't realize that my viewpoint and yours could not exist at the same time, at least it seems. So I will try and rephrase with the understanding I should have been more specific in my first post.
Let's say my question about how being 29 and divorced was a negative was focused on a group of women who either did not cause the divorce by their faults and/their ex-husbands initiated it. Is it just that they have a bad marriage experience so they are trash tiered?
Also, sorry about the bad formatting in advance. There was a lot and I couldn't figure out what to reply to and what not to, lol.
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No, I'm right and you're wrong.
I've been there. I've been with men who've been through this. I don't approach this from a 100% woman wrong viewpoint. I said in this thread, that relationship and marriage failures are almost never 100% one party's fault. What I am saying is that women are the ones blowing up their marriages for light and transient causes.
I study this too. I've been studying this for about 9 years now, but not in books. I've been studying it in on the ground reality, in the lives of men who've experienced it.
Captain-Tripps 4y ago
Hey, well I study books, but I'm not in the field yet. All l I have is what the books tell me the system should be using. But if the people in charge in the actual field are only using standards as a suggestion, the books aren't going to reflect that, lol. I got the impression for were coming from women bad100% due to the whole, good men getting divorced and I should understand since woman, bit.
With that all taken care of, am I wrong in my confusion of the 29 year old divorce part? Is it just the fact that these women are divorced that makes them trash-tier? I don't have any friends who are like the women you described (probably because my friend group kinda has shared values on things), so I'm actually trying to understand.
It's not a big deal, but I can't give dating advice to my older bro if I don't understand why he is so exhausted on the hoes he deals with. I get not wanting a pre-made family, so I'm kinda asking the negatives of someone who is 29 and divorced w/o kids. In general, is it the kids aspect that usually accompanies divorcees or just the fact that they were divorced at all?
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I wouldn't say divorce makes them "trash tier". Those are your words, not mine. I would say that a divorce makes them poor relationship risks for the reasons I mentioned: Either (1) they fucked up in who they picked; or (2) they picked well, but fucked up the relationship in one way or another.
Divorced without kids is still a bad bet. They had a chance to make a good decision and they fucked it up . Or, they made a good decision and then fucked it up after the marriage. Who's to say she's "learned her lesson"? Who's to say she won't do this again to the next man? I can't in good faith advise men to take a chance on such a woman.
Do women "deserve" a second chance? Not at a man's expense. It's men's individual decisions what she "deserves" from each individual man. Men, not women, get to make that call. When it comes to what a woman "deserves" from him, that's up to him, not her.
You shouldn't be giving your older brother advice about anything. At all, ever. And if you do advise him he should not be listening to you. With all due respect, you as a woman have no place advising him about anything.
EDIT: I have done a little research on your post history. You evidently are a law student. OK. I was a law student once too, and I thought I knew everything then too. I found your post about your current husband and your antagonistic adversarial relationship with him. Let's end this convo here, because I think we aren't going to convince each other, and I am pretty sure I understand where the disagreement is.
Captain-Tripps 4y ago
You got it on the head! I'm a law student.
So, I think my error was taking everything literally. I didn't realize I was until you used the phrase high risk, and then I understood where my mess-up was.
I was taking you as saying these were irredeemable flaws when really, these are just warning flags that she may not be the effort. That makes sense. Someone's divorced, they either fucked up or were dumb enough to be fooled. The whole "she made that choice" part of the OP wasn't translating to that for me, so atleast I am finally getting that part. Lol.
everything under here is a reply to your last message but not directly related to the OP this convo was about. You can read it or not, but I had to say something.
First, come-on, if you saw my history you know I consider marriage a big ass deal. There's no need for you to disrespect that, that's rude. I mean... Cool, yeah, I'm a woman so I don't deserve respect or whatever you feel. I don't care about that I'm a big girl, but, he's not here so please do not insult him by treating him as some passing fancy. Focus your derision on me, please. He is my bestie, so if I seem protective, it's because I am.
Next, It's cool you don't get my relationship style, and you are not the first person on reddit to say it's adversarial, but to each their own. I like competition, and it makes everything lightly competive. Banter is the name, shit talking is the game. It keeps it fun. :) Back and forth keeps life exciting
------Editing to add since I'm dumbly erased part of below.
Hey now, no need for sexist judgements. When dealing with women, it can help to ask a woman for advice. Example - My bro is a good dude, so sometimes he needs advice since as a general rule, the more good a dude is, the worse he is at text flirting in a way that gets hoes/women to respond back. --shit, part of why I like this sub is because it helps me understand a bit of background so they don't have to explain it when it's advice time. Lol
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moorekom Mod 4y ago
It's funny to me to see how the prescribed treatment to spoilt behavior is not to enforce consequences, accountability and responsibility, but an urge to handle them delicately, to demand more from the other party and to praise them for being strong when they're anything but strong.
If men started treating women exactly like they would treat another man they would relinquish equality in a day. I have come across quite a few tomboys in my life and as soon as I started treating them like men, they turned feminine and submissive. Wonder how that worked.