Out of nearly 9,000 photos, here are the best 387, with dozens more on the way (we're still blurring faces for privacy) this week from The 21 Convention 2017 Ten Year Anniversary Event of Orlando Florida.
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Full album on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pg/the21convention/photos/?tab=album&album_id=10155032008637405
- Full album on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21s/
Speakers from the red pill area/direction:
- Rollo Tomassi
- Rian Stone
- The Family Alpha
- Ivan Throne
- Goldmund Unleashed
- Christian McQueen
- Richard Cooper (EIC)
- Jack Donovan
- Alan Roger Currie
- Tanner Guzy
Some seduction community legends as well including Ross Jeffries, Zan Perrion, Hypnotica, and more.
Special mention as well for retired FBI special agent and body language expert Joe Navarro who spoke on the first day of the conference.
We had somewhere around ~120 people show up, almost all men obviously.
This event was also dedicated to the life and memory of Andrew the Private Man, an alumni #21Con speaker, and legendary red pill blogger who died earlier this year. His final girlfriend - whose house he died at to my knowledge in south Florida - was also present for almost the entire event. She is now in the process of starting a non-profit in his memory to get more men to The 21 Convention.
You can read some blog reviews from speakers and attendees below as well.
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https://basketofdeplorables23.blogspot.com/2017/10/a-heros-journey-21-convention-10-year.html
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https://thefamilyalpha.com/2017/10/06/mentouring-a-21-convention-review/
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http://spartanownership.com/masculine-insights-notes-21-convention-orlando-2017/
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90HsC-an6rU
Any questions let me know.
P.S.
All of the videos will be available with first access at 21university.com as the video team preps and exports them. First month is free, then it's $14.99/month.
Also, if this wasn't obvious, 99-100% of our videos are eventually published for FREE on YouTube/Vid.me/etc. including the speeches. That's the end goal, maximum exposure, impact, and accessibility.
In the meantime, they are ad-free and published early at 21U, helping fund the company, allowing us to keep creating events and publishing videos.
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In33dmon3yz 6y ago
At least a couple of fatties that Do not lift. I thought being in shape was a priority?
Dream_21 6y ago
If you really believe that, then you should get off your fat ass and actually come to the next convention.
In33dmon3yz 6y ago
Https://imgsu.net/image/vlFb here is my fat ass for you bitch boy! And send your mom over to clean my mirror. Oh and i dont even have working kidneys!
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In33dmon3yz 6y ago
Fuckin trendy yo sucks balls tho
FiveStarTendieDinner 6y ago
His mom will be over after she's done with me and the fatties.
aigamithite 6y ago
This was as savage as your lat spread.
Just kidding, looking good bro! You're like the bleached Zyzz.
Rian_Stone 6y ago
Not too bad. There was a few guys with your shred there. Not as many as there should be, but enough. Granted, I've been kept alive with whiskey and sunlight for the last 4 months prior, hence the massive tan.
You would have liked Jim Flanagan. Ivan is a beast too. 6'3 and definitely just as shredded as you, two less ears, but working kidneys
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Wasn't as bad as I was expecting.
max_peenor 6y ago
It isn't a "The Red Pill" convention, Einstein.
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max_peenor 6y ago
So you prefer your fags to be more manly then?
In33dmon3yz 6y ago
I do rather have a conversation with some masculine guy that fucks otherguys than with one of those sorry excuses for a man
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Some guys put real time and effort into this community and making some coin on the side makes sense to me.
I think how my life was pre TRP. Id have paid thousands of bucks to have the control over my life that I currently have.
You can always not pay these guys if you are so offended
Dream_21 6y ago
The videos are literally, eventually, going to be free anyway.
You can choose not to pay, and get all of the speech content anyway, in crystal clear video.
That's only 20% of the value though. The remaining 80% is in the experience of attending.
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0signal0 6y ago
I thought it was millenials that had killed the Red Pill community?
ex_addict_bro 6y ago
Your last post “weed is killing my progress”
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ex_addict_bro 6y ago
That's a tad rude, don't you think? I'll gently ask someone like u/PaperStreetVilla to show you the way to the door.
PaperStreetVilla 6y ago
You and Stacey need to stop calling on me like a God damned genie
vengefully_yours 6y ago
Not the hand job you're looking for...
max_peenor 6y ago
So I can't wish for a unicorn? :^(
RedPilledGodEmperor 6y ago
yeah, I'm starting to think that now. I'm gonna read the sidebar and slowly move away from this. I kind of gotten too immersed in these posts that don't add value
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If there's a market for it and you're not selling snake oil you may as well try to make some beer money off being what is essentially a surrogate father for the thousands of young adults and 20-somethings who never had one.
We're not talking about some 100 buck an hour shrink who just tells you its because you're too angry.
Rian_Stone 6y ago
I've posted my speech in its entirety on my blog.
More than welcome to see if it's snake oil or not. Joe Navarro is no joke either. I've liked him ever since his first book, what every body is saying
ex_addict_bro 6y ago
I’m not sure if you ever read Rian Stone, TheFamilyAlpha or the Dark Triad Man. Their content is not an easy read for a desperate beta male.
By the way, you posted recently in teenagers, fidget spinners, Rick and Marty and some gaming subreddit too. Good troll I guess. Remember to get a clean account for the next one.
sadomasochrist 6y ago
Disagree. TheFamilyAlpha is certainly nowhere near uncomfortable red pill. Maybe for guys that don't understand MRP, but it's blue pill, really. Red pill aware, blue pill technique.
There's only a small number of dark triad articles here and they mostly get downvoted. Good call on the post history, I'd say this is concern trolling.
Rian_Stone 6y ago
He started here, decided he wanted to save the world, started his own thing.
Can't fault him for that, he wasn't ready to enjoy the decline, and still fights for 1.0
sadomasochrist 6y ago
I don't think it is a coincidence that every time I find a guy with a marriage or family who is truly red pilled and actually understands the theory, we always find out we're in one side open relationships (not that it matters with women).
MRP, Black label, The Family Alpha etc are just betas doing their best to pretend to be short term mates. Women instinctively understand this game. It will bring you from schlub to subordinate, but not much further than that.
SO many reasons why that is true. Can't fake it. True growth comes when you no longer want your family, that's when you operate in the way that men are supposed to operate.
Hard to explain I guess, but if you have kids maybe you get what I'm saying.
By no means trying to represent myself as an ubermensch. But I have clear issues with the theory and content at MRP\FA\BLL.
I have not found even a chink in Rollo's content. Nothing. Not a flaw.
Rian_Stone 6y ago
Rollos wife is a looker man.
I get what you're saying. Not disagreeing, though it's a disagreement in strategy, not aim. For what it's worth, I'm fully accepting scorched earth
After all, he was married with the kid before he was red pulled, man were.
And some like to do it his way, can't fault him. He knows the risks, and accepts em
sadomasochrist 6y ago
To be clear, I have no issue with Rollo's content at all. I'm objecting to the "here's your blue pill prescription" types. I wouldn't have an issue with it at all if they actually recognized it as red pill aware blue pill theory, but they really hammer home on that silverback patriarch angle.
And man, it's just so false. I swear its gotta be the biggest con that women have ever pulled on men. "Oh no, you big bad man, stop oppressing me. Can you mix a bottle of formula?" I don't know who are worse, women who think they'll keep Chad or men who think they're AF in that arrangement.
Male hamster.
All I can think of is that most women must think 95% of guys are retarded. They must live their entire life thinking "I can't believe they all bought it! LMAO!"
Rian_Stone 6y ago
They are too busy worrying about the guy figuring out they are faking it too.
http://theredpillroom.blogspot.ca/2014/05/red-pill-roles-praxeology-of-dominant.html
I converse with a few who are living just what you say now, men and women. And honestly, I'm pretty sure that's the best we can do as a species
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/did-humans-evolve-to-see-things-as-they-really-are/
We are built to only see our pretty little lies. we are simply replacing them with lies that have more utility. Ideally, you want your woman to think she's pulling a fast one on you, otherwise she will feel taken advantage of, and seek revenge.
End of the day, if it's valuable, you're in the right direction. if it's not valuable, best hope your ego keeps out of the way while you deal with it.
So I guess my response to your 95% comment, I don't think they think that at all, it would require them to empathize with their men, and they are too busy in their narcissistic bubble to do this. As are we.
So which ones are the borderlines? Both of us, and neither. It's just synergy. We dragged her to happiness, kicking and screaming, just as the RP vanguards did the same to us.
Kind of funny when you think about it. Society was supposed to do this, we got tired of waiting and did it ourselves.
sadomasochrist 6y ago
I feel like this is punching above my knowledge level, which I've felt is rare. So please please elaborate.
You know this is a fantastic point I was thinking about the other day. I made the comment that I've started to think about a woman's game theory in the way that "what would Tiger Woods do?"
I mean if you had nearly unlimited resources at your disposal, how would you act and make decisions? Which is really the foundation of male disposability, with Rollo's contribution of the war bride dynamic.
What I feel like I can add to that part of the discussion is if you understand that the nuclear family is a male value system, and that the system understands male disposability, at a high level, not necessarily at the clerk level in court, then nothing about this is confusing at all.
So I think that's the last two points that need to be added to TRP canon.
1) The nuclear family is not a female value system. This doesn't mean they don't love their children, it simply means they do not understand having children in the same way we do. With this you can easily reconcile why the math doesn't add up and why "the family alpha" is still blue pill. Woman are nomadic, not honor or duty bound.
2) A wealthy man with a high number of suitors can't sympathise with the plight of one of his banal SMV5.125 female suitors.
Also I'm not sure if you're directly referencing the BPD\NPD dance in your replies. But I am part of the BPD crew. TBH, I would have stayed in blue pill land if I hadn't had to lock horns with a part time psychopath.
To add to your discussion on solipsism, it would appear in a way that you can "red pill" a woman, but I don't know that it would add any utility outside of dealing with trying to add a small degree of civility to any hypergamous outcomes. I don't feel like my circumstances could be readily replicated. It took a very very long time, and the fear of loss is the only thing that gave me enough time to bring her to self awareness. Who knows if that'll work out or not, doesn't matter.
So really, I feel like the best thing this forum can give guys is the knowledge to understand the covert, behind the scenes mechanisms going into play when she's about to branch swing and at least let them understand what is happening, at least give them a chance to call it out while its going on so that they can keep their frame.
I feel like most guys aren't so angry about the outcomes as they are about realizing much later after the fact what really happened when she "fell out of love."
This place is landing ground for guys with cPTSD that literally can not understand what in the flying fuck just happened to them.
CoupDeGrace22 6y ago
Lol I believe you meant to say the IllimitableMan didn't ya?
If so indeed very advanced reading , some of the best shit I read through TRP was from him, razor sharp observations and solid insight.
ex_addict_bro 6y ago
No. The Dark Triad Man. I thought I'm in the "21 Convention 2017 critique thread" and it looks like you guys don't even know who attended. Shame.
CoupDeGrace22 6y ago
Oh well , good hint for anyone who sees it anyway.
No Dark triad man is mentioned in this post by OP , I was breezing through and dropped a comment, guess I should be ashamed for not checking the RSVP , cheers
In33dmon3yz 6y ago
Look at this two faggots with the purple partner look ???? if this is what represents a mens rights movement we are fucking doomed
PaperStreetVilla 6y ago
It's not. Never was
max_peenor 6y ago
That's rich coming from an incel.
ex_addict_bro 6y ago
That poor bored fucker keeps posting shit in various subreddits. Obvious troll. Reporting him too.
wheresMYsteakAt 6y ago
Just make sure to notify /u/paperstreetvilla
jb_trp 6y ago
I do think the bubble on this sub has burst. I joined years ago, maybe when TRP had less than 40k. Now, it's at 230k+, and so many of the posts read like a parody of TRP.
empatheticapathetic 6y ago
Looks great. Would like to know who was who.
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ex_addict_bro 6y ago
The days shooting solved problems with women are over son.
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ex_addict_bro 6y ago
Well, maybe it didn't. On the other hand, having a romance with a life-threatening addiction, then getting out out it the first time when I saw the light, with the help of various people, reading dozens of self-improvement books, finding TRP, getting divorce, finally made possible for me to becoming a good father for my children or a worker that you can depend on. It helped me get out of the shithole of obesity too.
7 years sober, who would have thought.
With my deepest regards,
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Rian_Stone 6y ago
Should have come to the after parties. A masculine guy like you would have cleaned house with the local talent!
blackedoutfast 6y ago
so who ate the soggy biscuit?
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The bald tattooed guy is gay.
sadomasochrist 6y ago
Just waiting to see bolupua and the bald tattooed guy on altmrp.
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AllahHatesFags 6y ago
I would expect to see a bunch of swole alpha Chads at a Red Pill convention.
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sadomasochrist 6y ago
As much as you want to hate on these guys and tell us about being a high beta, with the username "biggerbetterjobs" guys like that get laid. That was the take away literally a decade ago in PUA.
You may not like it, but that's how it is.
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So, you are saying you only look up to people that look like Bradd Pitt and are 6'1"?
Hmmm that sounds oddly familiar... Sounds like what a woman would say.. Either way at least they are doing shit. How about contribute to the sub instead of calling people manlets "haha lol"
You add nothing of value while these guys are attempting to add some value. That makes YOU less than garbage.
biggerbetterjobs 6y ago
whatever you say manlet.. LOL !
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I'm 5'2"... I'm not even close to manlet status.. grins mischievously ;)
vengefully_yours 6y ago
Leprechaun? Munchkin? Tall Dwarf? Well my dick is so tiny it looks like a large clit! I am shorter than you are for sure, and have the bonus of a micro dick!
Gotta enjoy the insecurity of tall guys who lose girls to us short fucks. It's even better when they assume they're bad ass then get a beat down by some 5'7 dude who's had to fight for everything in his life. Insecurity is the hallmark off the tall beta, and bigger (laughable) is exactly that.
RP085 6y ago
I will say this.
I've been interested in learning about these subjects (women and dating) for about ten years. And I've read and watched a ton of stuff from all kinds of sources.
Even though in the end, The Red Pill was the single biggest and most powerful chunk of my learning, before I stumbled upon it (around 4 years ago), I learned a lot from individual people who were out there teaching things they knew.
Among them were Alan Roger Currie, Zan Perrion and Johnny Soporno. Who are probably the top 3 people I've learned the most from pre-trp, and they're all part of this event and picture album.
I have so much respect and appreciation for those three men I would do anything for them short of sucking their dick, and I sincerely think I cannot repay them for the shifts in paradigm they initiated in me which have improved my life more than anything else I've learned from anybody else (before the red pill).
Guys like them are the closest I had to older wiser male guidance, and I know thanks to them and a few others, I am a better person.
So when I see anyone organizing an event that gives them a platform to speak, and teach others the kinds of things they taught me, I'm going to support them. If not financially, at least morally.
Sure, some of those speakers are not personally what I would call ideal, but that's life. Sometimes you have to learn to take what works for you and discard the rest.
Awesome event, dude. I can't wait to watch their speeches when they come out for free. (I'm cheap).
cellphon 6y ago
I'm intrigued, never heard of any of your three authors.
Could you please tell us what sets them aside for the other existing pua stuff?
If I could pick a single book by your top three, which one it would be and why?
RP085 6y ago
Sure.
When I look at all the guys out there teaching stuff, for the most part I notice a distinct lack of core "redpill" understanding.
All of these three guys "get it" at a deep core.
From Johnny Soporno, I realized the utter ridiculousness and madness of our societal/cultural beliefs and paradigms regarding sex, and how they corner women very unfairly into positions of guilt and shame if they choose what feels good to them, and I learned his attitude of being a friend to women. Being on their side rather than against them, and the difference this makes.
Alan Roger Currie is hands-down the most direct, balls-of-steel—sometimes even x-rated—"approacher" I've ever seen. He obliterates the "act" women put up of not being sexual, and often when he does, he gets them. And has crystal-clear awareness of all the ways in which women are manipulative and doesn't fall for any of it.
Zan Perrion is possibly the single wisest man I've come across regarding women (and the larger context of this subject) outside of the more bitter redpill truths. He understands women not just in a "scientific" way from the outside, but also, as if he was in their shoes. He understands their "heart", if that makes sense.
If you are already "red pilled", then the core teaching of all of Alan's books will probably be redundant for you, and if you did decide to read them, what you'd get out of them would probably be mostly nuances; little distinctions and refinements about different kinds of situations/scenarios/contexts with girls.
Alan has 5 books:
From Mode One you'll learn to be direct as fuck. (Very good for you).
From "Oooh... Say It Again" you'll get a guide on making women wet by talking dirty to them with balls. Includes great examples of him breaking women's "wholesome" act down and getting them.
"The Possibility of Sex" teaches how women manipulate men a lot based on the possibility of sex.
And I haven't read the other two.
Johnny doesn't have any books; only extensive talks on Youtube.
And Zan has an unbelievable book that I'm glad I read before getting into the redpill, because it saved me from being bitter.
It's called "The Alabaster Girl" and it guides you into noticing, realizing and experiencing the beauty of women, and of life. Very wholesome (yet far from naive), and definitely a benevolent perspective on the whole thing (even while being redpilled about women's ways and being in no way deluded). And it teaches you the essence of what makes women be "in love" with a man (as opposed to just sexually infatuated).
cellphon 6y ago
Thanks alot brother for your very helpful post and information. I'll definitely check it out.
Any advice for day game? I've been doing ok online but just can't bring myself to cold approach women. Alcohol doesn't help much.
RP085 6y ago
Yes, my single biggest piece of advice for doing anything that one finds difficult as a result of fear, is to get rid of the fear by diving directly into the beliefs that cause the fear.
I'm good with beliefs so if you want you can PM me and I'll give you some free coaching over Skype/Hangouts.
(Same for anyone else reading this)
Rian_Stone 6y ago
Should hear Alan speak. He's got a cadence. It's like ????
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RP085 6y ago
I think a year. For no other reason than that's the "sense" I've gotten from previous talks; that they wait from a number of months to a year to release them in full for free, but I don't really know. It's just an estimation I made up in my mind.
Dream_21 6y ago
This is approximately right, however, the delay time can vary widely. It can be 1 month from 21 University to YouTube, or it can be 3, or 6, or 12+.
It depends on us as a team, as well as the speaker, should they have any requests. Some actually have us delay a speech release on YouTube to better prepare a new website, product, book, etc.
This is only for the speeches though, the most premium content. Interviews and podcasts don't necessarily work on the same content pipeline.
Such as this new video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeBm9nXhquk
And the other 21 Reports we will be rapidly publishing.
RP085 6y ago
Well, this is the most clear and informed I've been about this until now, thanks.
(Oh, a full interview with Rollo, cool. I'll watch that now.)
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vengefully_yours 6y ago
Try harder, I'm sure you can manage being gay. Try wearing a dress.
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dr_warlock 6y ago
Breaking and entering a house for a dress. Tell me how that's not gay.
RedPillWizard 6y ago
because B&Es are badass thats why
Reformed65 6y ago
Wait, that's not even an insult.
buddhadarko 6y ago
Just like with anything we have to sift out the bullshit and focus in on what works. Of course something like TRP which has picked up in popularity over the years, is going to attract some trolls and people who are just looking to make a mockery out of it.
I don't see an issue with people from TRP community meeting together to discuss information that they find to be useful and important in their lives, and that they believe will help the lives of others as well. This is what men do. Motorcycle enthusiasts and car heads (Honda guys, Subaru guys, etc.) meet up, talk about their bikes and cars. They exchange information with each other and it really boosts a sense of community and togetherness for something they find to be important. Cigar enthusiasts meet up and sit around, smoke a good cigar, and discuss things - there are even meet ups for sneakerheads. They get together, discuss sneakers and whatever else they find to be relevant to their culture.
If anything, we need MORE RP summits.
Dream_21 6y ago
I have an American one planned for 2018, maybe a European one as well for 18/19,
This was the 14th 21 Convention, with 3 prior events in Europe, and 1 in Australia.
buddhadarko 6y ago
Awesome. I'll be looking out for the details as I think this is incredibly important and helpful to TRP community.
Dream_21 6y ago
I do as well, look forward to meeting you man.
freshona 6y ago
Well, if nothing else, you're a tenacious motherfucker. 13 prior events, and ~120 visitors.
Dream_21 6y ago
It gets better, much, much better.
https://twitter.com/beachmuscles/status/922620567064367104
Rian_Stone 6y ago
Also, for your list
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Dream_21 6y ago
The content is not exclusive. In fact in thinking so you have entirely missed the point. That's literally the opposite of my goal.
I want all of the content to eventually be as free and accessible as possible. My actions for the past 11 years reflect this perfectly. We have over 1,000 videos for free on YouTube alone, hundreds of which are full length speeches.
The point of attending the convention isn't just to learn from the talks, it's to spend hours, days, nearly a full week talking with the speakers, and hundreds of other men facing similar if not identical challenges to you. Divorce rape, child custody rape, dating, marriage, family, fatherhood, the fate of the west, etc.
You live in a world that despises men and masculinity. The opposite is true at The 21 Convention, and you get to LIVE that for days on end.
It's a real life Galt's Gulch for men.
If you grow some balls and risk attending, you'll see this for yourself.
Rian_Stone 6y ago
Get out of it what you want to. Some were there to cry I to bobs bitch tits. Some where there to learn, some here there to master.
The funniest part, at one point, tanner, myself, goldmund, and McQueen and hunter sitting with rollo having dinner. Few guys sat and joined, talked about online business models, clothing, fucking for hours with a bunch of attendees.
That and the German guy who got jumped at the club, made up a plan to use as his pua routine.
My last post was from one of the nights out, where I gave an impromptu lesson on approaches, Ivan brought a bunch of girls to attendees, etc. At least 3 guys got laid just by meeting the speakers, and actually practiced approaches. https://rianstonept.blogspot.ca/2017/10/fear-is-mind-killer.html
Jay29688 6y ago
How was the session with Frank T.J. Mackey?
Dream_21 6y ago
Ross is one hell of a character.
bsutansalt 6y ago
What topics are you considering for next year? I'd be open to presenting something.
Dream_21 6y ago
In rare cases, I ask a speaker to hit a particular topic. I.e. I asked Joe Navarro to speak on cluster B personality disorders in women [he opted instead to speak on non-verbal communication, but did accept questions on his book Dangerous Personalities].
Generally, though, the platform is open, to the extent a speaker doesn't run off the rails and start promoting crazy shit like feminism, aliens/ufos/parasites are eating my brain right now/etc.
So it's up to you, if you end up confirming to speak at the event. As founder and CEO I'm here to lead and make final decisions, not dictate how speakers think or present.
Droe19 6y ago
a bunch of 40+ year old virgins who've never been in a gym before in their lives. Yep, you guys look exactly like what you sound like