... or at least could be.
Couple of examples in my life when I was confronted by a either:
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mad ex boyfriend
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mad current boyfriend
- mad white knight who came to rescue her from me (the bad guy)
Story_1: Once I was with this chick in a club, sexy dance and all. At the same time the guy who fell in love with her months ago approached me and put his arm around my neck, I grabbed his hand and he immediately punched me in the face, I got knocked back not participating this level of aggressiveness. Not a split second later, guard comes by (luckily he knows me) and bounces his ass out. I stayed inside for the night having fun, but I heard the guy went home for a knife and was waiting on me before finally giving up after a few hours.
Story_2: I was a bartender last year and I was working with (probably the most skilled bartender in my town), he's a real master and I had mad respect for him. He was 26 and I was 21, he dated a HB9 - a girl that attended the same classes I did (let's call her Monica). That bartender went once on a date with her and he bragged how he got a kiss from her. He was madly in love: "She's the one" he used to say.
Monica used to hang out with the same group as I and this master bartender did and months passed by since he got his last and first kiss. After a night out, Monica and I were walking home together since our apartments were close by, I invited her at my place if she wanted to see a movie with me, she said yes (probably knowing what is coming after her), I ended up fucking her. However, I messed it up. Since I need my bed for myself, after sex I sent her home (it was like 6 in the morning). She fucking tells everyone I fucked her and ditched her, and the word comes to the master bartender. Nothing special happened other than him undermining me on every corner and trying to (and failing miserably) to AMOG me. Things got even worse between us two working there when Monica visited that bar only to hang out with douche De Lena, instead the white knight.
Story_3 is actually the one I read on news, you can find pictures of the Chad and the cheating girlfriend on real gore, or whatever the fuck the website is called. Either way the story goes like this: Her boyfriend found out she was fucking some Chad, he ended up acquiring a gun, killing both of them in cold blood. That's fucked up.
Moral of this post (if there is one) is that while we may be blessed for being red pilled and having the ability to pull any girl we would like, there's a 50% possibility of her having some retarded ape who will want to fuck you over.
BIGPAR 6y ago
Sorry, but can someone tell me what AMOG means?
PantsonFire1234 6y ago
Actually in today's society it's the social rule and state law that we cannot and should not do this. But outside of our world this is a perfectly normal way to handle things.
Guy wanted to build up a life with this girl. Who knows if he was alpha or beta. Eventually some no worrying Chad comes along and hits all the right notes in a different way than her boyfriend. Boyfriend decides he wants none of this and opts to shoot Chad.
What in earnest was his defense had he given him a moment to explain himself? "Whhhaait b-b-b-uddy. Lets talk this fucking your girlfriend thing out okay?". Yeah.
I know this myself. It's really easy to talk from the uncommitted site and just fuck bitches left and right. Whoever is a buyer. It's much more difficult to actually stick with one and have her behave. Even if you run tight slut testing game.
I'm not saying any of this is okay. Just that your carefree attitude towards this is hinged on the fact that you form no emotional bonds with these girls. If you would you would probably end up in situations like these to. You wouldn't grab a knife or a gun. But you'd still have to walk away and dump her.
That's something which takes practice.
Crimson_Eyes 6y ago
I am unsure why this is a beta trait. Sure, it might be 'macho' to have a fair fight, but only idiots fight fairly. Swift and overwhelming force is the superior option.
panzerknack 6y ago
Shrug, or chuckling and walking away, leaving the guy who wants to fight look toolish. How much is your body worth? My face is too pretty and there's too much brilliant gray matter in my head to get into a slugfest - even if this isn't true, everyone here should believe it.
Crimson_Eyes 6y ago
Not what I mean. The people here are claiming that getting violent is a beta trait. I don't see how it is, even if the move is sneaky or underhanded. Shanking the other guy in his sleep or putting a .45 to his head isn't beta, or even risky, from a "will the other guy hurt me too?" angle.
panzerknack 6y ago
I respectfully disagree - those are both beta thought processes - because the perp is so concerned with how they've be wronged they go to those lengths.
The successful dude doesn't NEED to enact violence; violence is a tool of those without social power.
HandsomeCub 6y ago
I think it is atleast for BPs. The pain associated with being cucked universally infuriates if there is some feeling of entitlement or investment, regardless if they were friendzoned or a husband. The intensity can be on par with the sharp immediate fear of parasites, directed towards irritation and betrayal. And violence is the popular way to alleviate this anger to replace with a sense of justice. BP sex is serious. RP sex is playful and already expects polyamory, starting with the wandering sexual mind of a hot woman. Personally, i wish everyone was RP. I think there would be less violence over women.
theoctopuss 6y ago
Many on this board assume that women can do the most damage to you, albeit not physically. This is not true, and I have several anecdotes to corroborate.
Situation 1 - I was 18 years old, having just graduated high school. My group of friends included 8 people, with a few who would come and go. One of these friends was a girl named Kendra.
Kendra was a good looking girl, 8 out of 10. Most of the guys in this group had a thing for her, but she never went for them. She would blow them off to hang out with me, etc. I never had any expectation of banging this girl, but I never expected to get with her (I got with some of her friends instead). One day we were at the beach, me her and one of her friends. This was the local spot for hanging out, so there was hundreds of people there. We arrive and everything was cool. We were having fun, mingling, and drinking a bit. Except for one guy.
This guy was a coworker of Kendra's and 5 years older than all of us. He was in love with her and very defensive. He wasn't a good looking guy, but she could get favors out of him so she strung him along. Kendra, her friend, and myself had went our seperate ways when we got there, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to introduce myself. They were in a group of 4 or 5 talking as I approached. I began my introduction when the guy says "really? This is who you chose?" and started throwing punches at me. I dodged the first two, but he connected with one before someone else wrapped him up. I was dumbfounded, but played it off and left with Kendra and friend.
Situation 2 - This one is more recent. I was working a retail job for extra spending money while in college. There were several cuties that worked there, but one of them took an interest in me. Unfortunately, she also had baggage in the form of a beta boyfriend. There were times he would visit her at the stored and I guess he picked up on the vibe. I was talking to this girl and he walked up to ys, just staring at me. I didn't know who he was, so I asked "can I help you?". He continues to stare at me until girl introduced him. I tried to shake his hand but all he said was "stop talking to my girlfriend." as he walked off. No big deal, I thought. Two weeks later I was called into the head manager's office. He said that a customer had filed several reports that I was sexually harassing his girlfriend, among other things. I knew exactly who it was, but it didn't change anything. Me and girl would still flirt, etc. A few days later the boyfriend came into the store and started threatening me, saying he would kill me if I talked to her ever again. I relayed this information to the manager and he said he would deap with it. A week later I was told that due to the complaints against me (all from the boyfriend) that they would have to let me go. Once again, I played it off and left in good standing. Later that day, girl texted me saying how sorry she was about him, blah blah blah. I didn't respond.
In short, dealing with betas can get you punched or fired. Be careful, people.
sadomasochrist 6y ago
You fucked up on #2. What's she going to say to her boss? "Yeah, I have a boyfriend and I like flirting at work?"
Of course she was corroborating that you were harassing her. Behind closed doors she was saying she tried all the ways to get you to stop without being rude, that sometimes she thinks your funny but she just wants you to leave her alone.
It was win win win for her and lose for you. She played 3 guys like puppets, and you were the weakest link.
SirKolbath 6y ago
This is why we continually stress not to shit where you eat.
This is preposterous. I don't know what country you work in, but in the United States that's defamation of character and unless there is proof of misconduct, any such allegation made is actionable in court with a counter suit.
You seem to have had a hard time learning that "don't shit where you eat" thing.
That is a threat and is punishable in my state by three months in jail and a $1500 fine, plus additional fines and jail time for harassment.
He comes to your place of work and threatens you and your manager's answer is to fire you without cause? Bullshit. I work in a right to work state which means that I can be terminated if my boss doesn't like my haircut. Despite that, he is legally bound to see to my safety when I'm on the clock, particularly from customers who have demonstrated a track record of harassment towards me as previously documented.
I'd have smiled and asked to use his phone to call my lawyer.
This whole story reads like a 4chan greenpost. If any of it is true, you got fired because you shat where you ate.
Fixed it.
DigitallyDisrupt 6y ago
Lol, found the Law and Order armchair quarterback.
If you know how to do case studies, please come back with the number that went to trial and the outcomes.
FindTheBus 6y ago
did you get your legal education by reading AOLers rant about posts that contained LIBEL & SLANDER?
SirKolbath 6y ago
"Defamation" is a catch-all term for any statement that hurts someone's reputation. Written defamation is called "libel," and spoken defamation is called "slander." Defamation is not a crime, but it is a "tort" (a civil wrong, rather than a criminal wrong)." (https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/defamation-law-made-simple-29718.html)
Shut the fuck up.
FindTheBus 6y ago
Okay, "sir." Fuckin' nerd boy thinks he's a lawyer and defamation lawsuits actually happen, let alone over the circumstances listed. Huff more Raid, you're on that cusp between not having killed enough braincells, and having killed too many.
SirKolbath 6y ago
How about if you and your 44 Karma just close your mouth?
FindTheBus 6y ago
Lol, the nerd with delusional aspirations of being a Sir who thinks reddit points mean anything has never seen a throwaway before
Widowmaker_Only 6y ago
Actual moral of the story: Don't be an immoral cunt that goes after girls who are married or have a boyfriend.
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FindTheBus 6y ago
If you steal my sneakers, I'm beating the shit out of you.
I don't really value women any higher than a pair of sneakers, so, do the math yourself, bitch.
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massivewang 6y ago
I avoid situation two by not ducking with an acquaintances stated intrrrst. Once he communicates he’s into her, she’s off limits to me. It’s not worth the hassle.
Just because I can sleeep with a chick when he can’t, even though I’m in the “right”, I don’t do it. That is my take however, y’all are grown ass men and can choose your own way. There’s no right or wrong answer.
Part of abdunance mentally for me is knowing there are always more opportunities, so I prefer to keep it cool with the acquaintance rather than let shit turn sideways. Obviously this is nuanced, but that’s my general rule.
redolas 6y ago
Oh yeah, and don't bet on a pussy to at least say that she was attracted to you or she liked you or anything. You don't matter to her, if you fuck it up, you're on your own.
askmrcia 6y ago
Funny that these women dated these guys. They may be beta, but they sound like the typical asshole douche bag guys that the basic bitches go after.
I personally would not even mess with those women because it's obvious what kinds of guys they go after.
RedHoodhandles 6y ago
Yeah so what. Lift, martial arts, pray that somebody won't pull a knife or gun on you and stay away from crazy. That's all you can control.
desno 6y ago
Good mentality to have. Stay away from danger as much as possible but if confronted by it with no way out, you still have some chance to get out of that situation unscathed.
mma13579 6y ago
Yeah this, sometimes in life crazy people just want violence, doesn't have to be over a girl. You can lift, even take steroids if you're into that, do martial arts, that's all you can do.
I went on nights out with people in the past who wanted to start fights with random people, it just happens.
The main thing is being aware of your surroundings, don't let the alpha attitude affect your ego too much that you feel like you can get away with anything.
Try and stick to busy areas and if you see a group of people when you're alone walk a different way.
22Luika 6y ago
The plenty of dudes that aren't capable of attain their goals And would do anything for some pussy
AuWaP 6y ago
The weak man resorts to violence first. Betas are weak so if you're going to compete against them for mates then prepare for the cowardly violent attack.
Julius Caesar was murdered by a room full of betas.
Bumboking 6y ago
Big up for that; betas the lot of them
22Luika 6y ago
That's have to be the case
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FiveStarTendieDinner 6y ago
I can understand your point but physical violence is actually fun and endearing with the right mindset, it also showcases power. Power attracts and stimulates women, so there's a bonus right there. It must be used wisely though. Violence can be the answer to everything if you want it to be. Whether you use guns, knives, blunt force, or brute force, you have to get blood on your hands to get your point across. Carry a weapon, carry on with life.
dankvibez 6y ago
You are living in a feminism created world. Women LOVE violence and drama. You are all helping them create more of it, and they love you for that.
While many "red pill" truths are good sexual strategies, we must all acknowledge that it is only something we do to get by in this current environment. Men competing for mates destroys society, NOT FEMINISM.
Women definitely get wet for some guy who wins a seemingly fair fight against a chad. Does that make it right? No.
People here need to be careful with redpill, they aren't realizing essentially they are becoming peacocks for females, fitting their narrative. If redpill spreads, this will not end well.
If everyone had this knowledge, why would they work/produce anything for civilization? Or do ANYTHING in the interest of civilization? What women want is directly in conflict with how civilization works. That's why there are so many religious texts talking about how awful they can be.
I'm not saying anyone should stop being redpilled, they just need to understand they are here BECAUSE OF FEMINISM. Not anything else. Men have a gift of tricking everyone (themselves included) into thinking that what they are currently doing is the shit and that is EXACTLY what they wanted to do with their life. I mean fuck, we tricked females into thinking having a job would be fulfilling (more women on anti-depressants now than ever before).
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Well said. My thoughts exactly. We are here because of the sexual revolution. I personally would rather not waste my time worrying about how to "score" with women and satisfy their hypergamous nature. I would have preferred to marry a woman in my early twenties and had some children.
dankvibez 6y ago
Glad other people are realizing this.
A lot of other men have been tricked into thinking "this is the best way of life".
You can definitely use a loophole while at the same time asking for it to be closed.
LiveAFTSOV 6y ago
How do the weak resort to violence?
Kingoffistycuffs 6y ago
Well, if they had good control of their mental state, boundaries, and had game then they really wouldn't be betas would they?
LordFall 6y ago
If your only way to get your way is to use physical strength over cunning, smarts or social ability, you're weak.
Fapisluv 6y ago
Weak doesnt necessarily mean weak physically.They are weak in mentality and frame.
dankvibez 6y ago
Sounds like something someone who is weak and sucks at violence would say bro /s
Time to wake up and realize that women actually are greatly excited by violence, and if you keep playing the redpill arms race, that is where mate competition will end up.
Pork_Sword3 6y ago
Weak resort to underhanded tactics, not always violence. But if they do resort to violence, it’s in the most cowardly way possible. The weak are smart enough to know they can’t go head to head against someone stronger than them, therefore any kind of dignity or fair play is thrown to the side. Always be careful when dealing with these kinds of people.
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LiveAFTSOV 6y ago
Think about this:
Your cousin comes into your room to have a conversation, and ask about a problem youre having.
You decide you dont want to have the conversation, and go to leave the room.
Your cousin stands in front of the door, blocking you, and you try to push past him to leave.
Your cousin grabs you, throws you onto the floor, and slaps you, and yells at the top of his lungs at you about how youre being disrespectful.
There's the violence. Who's weak?
KingMinish 6y ago
The person who can't defend himself.
Being an angry arrogant bastard who can't get pussy doesn't make you weak. It just means you can't get pussy.
And being able to get pussy doesn't make you a stronger person, a more powerful person, or a better person. It's a metric of physique and skill, but not power. Pussy gives you the feeling of power, and little else.
We're all playing dominance games against each other here, it's just that getting laid a lot is a sanctioned dominance game by the powers that be. Beating the shit out of each other is against the rules. That makes physical violence "weaker" within the frame of society as it stands. You can fuck somebodys wife with no repercussions but if you beat the shit out of them the state will come after you.
It's weird to read appeals to civilization here though considering how degrading the strategies here ultimately are at the wider scale. We're already bandits with this garbage, you know?
max_peenor 6y ago
The Mongols beg to differ with you.
gondlyr 6y ago
Virgin Roman Empire vs Chad Horde
Troll_Name 6y ago
The Mongols offered peaceful subordination first.
max_peenor 6y ago
Generally no. When faced with a siege, sometimes they would do this. Of course, this didn't keep them from killing the the Caliph and his nobles. (Yay for that, btw.). The vast majority of times they fought in open field and gave no warning.
This also explains the halt of their advance. As they pushed into Ungar lands, they started hitting modern (for the time) fortifications that were built and provisioned for multi-year sieges. Unlike Western professional armies at the time, like the French, the Mongols had ZERO supply train. They could last through a shorter siege, but keeping their army in one place for a year would be a death sentence. The shitty excuse that they stopped because of the death of Ögedei is bullshit. They thought they had a chance because the Austrians were squabbling with the French, but a couple centuries later when an even bigger Islam army was on the verge of conquering Vienna, the French showed up and wrecked them. You can shoot short composite bow from a horse back? Yeah, good luck against longbowmen sitting behind a 10 foot wall.
So Batu pivoted south and south east, like a good little faggot. Note that he didn't even think of going after Constantinople. Those fuckers are known for lasting half a decade behind their walls. There would have been nothing but horse skeletons and stupid little hats outside their walls by the end of that.
plainposter 6y ago
this sounds lit bro, you would make a great youtuber for awesome history narratives
AuWaP 6y ago
How so? The Mongols were totally dominated in every metric of civilisation. Chinese treated them like animals. They were living in tents in small tribal groups on a very harsh terrain.
They were the weak ones and they said that violence can get us what the civilised alphas (various Emperors) had.
How are you saying that the Mongols were stronger? How big is Mongolia today and how big is China and Russia today? They got a short term advantage by using a first strike policy and showing little mercy. How is this different from a beta who wants to knock out a redpiller whose spent years on self-improvement? The redpiller can't stand up to the sucker punch, he will fall down. But he is going to get back up eventually and handle his business. The Mongols simply didn't last because they kept using violence to the point that they basically had a self-destructive civil war.
The beta uses violence because he has nothing else. The empires wanted nothing from the Mongols except for maybe some horses and women. So, the mongols could not gain anything in a fair trade. They resorted to violence to steal from the alphas.
Alphas are not gods. They bleed, they die. If you're focusing on your frame, game, and fitness, while some beta nobody is plotting day and night how to jump you and stab you, do you think he's going to fail?
max_peenor 6y ago
Oh, lovely hyperbole.
I'm sure Kublai cried himself to sleep every night for being such a savage after pumping his genetic material into a dozen Chinese bitches.
Genetically, it's giant.
AuWaP 6y ago
Some place in Africa is genetically the biggest. So what?
Savageness does not equal superiority. How is Africa going these days?
max_peenor 6y ago
No. It isn't. They have found earlier humans outside of Africa in recent years.
...and derp. We wasn't actually a savage.
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This guy is actually trying to arguing that the Mongols were weak by some abstract, intellectual measure of strength. lol
Poopy124 6y ago
Lol. He was murdered because he didn't want a senate. Not because they were betas
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Hilarious how many of the members of this subreddit refer to the alpha/beta dichtomy to explain every action made by a man. Talk about dumbing down.
clearairturbulence- 6y ago
This. The alpha/beta dichotomy comes from an attempt at applying Evo psych research to the sexual marketplace. This conversation about the Roman Senate is stupid as hell.
Poopy124 6y ago
This is what I mean. Well said. Alpha male this alpha male that. Its always the same on this sub.
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This is the logical, overt reason. Inwardly, in the hearts and minds of the men who carried out the act, were filled with bitterness and resentment for their leader. Don't fool yourself, behind every act of violence lurks insecurity and anxiety.
Having said that, violence is the only real authority on this earth. This is why being prepared for it and knowing the part of yourself that can carry it out, is an essential ability for any (alpha) man.
iamtheswoop 6y ago
Yeah I'm gonna have to agree on this one, there's not enough historical evidence to gage the deepest psychological motivations. Cato was an avid antagonist of JC and was most definently not "beta" in his intents. We do know that JC broke so many political taboos and basically forced his way into the political power he had. This was more the impetus for assassination. And remember Rome went through an even worse civil war after this event because the political elites weren't ready acquiesce power. It was only after Octavian won and pretended to grant the Senate power that things calmed down.
AuWaP 6y ago
Or the senate didn't want an Emperor? The beta didn't want to be around a Chad... sound similar?
Menchstick 6y ago
Most of the senate and senate supporters were indeed betas, they used democracy as an excuse to get what they wanted and were corrupted as hell.
Poopy124 6y ago
Pretty sure they wanted democracy for reasons alot of countries have it for today. It wasn't always to get what they wanted but to stop people like Ceaser and potential dictators etc from gaining power.
MuhTriggersGuise 6y ago
Rome never was a democracy, it was a republic. And the senate that killed Caeser was corrupt as fuck.
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italianking13 6y ago
Only a beta would think this was true.
Poopy124 6y ago
Hahah. Your so misguided its funny
nopiller 6y ago
so how do you like communism? Kim Jong Un must be real alpha according to your logic
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biggerbetterjobs 6y ago
Avoid these types of people and these situations. Don't go to bars that attract thuggish crowds. Don't hangout with shitty people. Do activities that generally contribute in a positive way to your life. Center yourself around good wholesome people. Strive to live in and raise children in a low crime high quality of life area.
-OR-
Get tough and hang with a crew/group of friends that will have your back. That's the logical un-disnified way to deal with this problem. In the street, one on one fights don't exist. It always boils down to strength in numbers.
Usually you can't have one or the other and it's a general mix throughout life. So I advise doing both. I think the path of the true alpha male lies in a healthy ratio of the two outlooks. But this is just a simple duality metaphor to explain a much more vast concept in personality and social dynamics.
Jigsus 6y ago
Yeah this guy invited this kind of attention. He should really change the crowd
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biggerbetterjobs 6y ago
It will, but it's one way to deal with enemies. It's not pretty or "right".. It's just a way. Most people involved in these groups aren't in careers where a criminal rap sheet would deter them from making more money at their job.
North_2345 6y ago
Yup my buddy is/was an extremely dangerous beta/omega..He was always the nice guy and never did great with women. He would get insanely jealous a lot of the time when other guys got with girls he liked I mean really jealous..I just don't think he had a lot of balls when it was time to get with women and therefore would lose them or be friend zoned. That being said he may of been beta with women but he was def an alpha among us guys. I mean at 6'3 260lbs and was extensively trained in mixed martial arts he was Much respected and considered to be someone that's not to be fucked with...
I think something snapped in his head after his last fling ended and the girl went back to her ex-boyfriend cause last I heard is that he beat the girl and the ex-bf almost to the point of death. Her face was so badly beaten I heard that she needed facial reconstruction and the guy had a broken nose, arm and cracked skull.. they were in hospital for weeks after the attack apparently . So yes just because someone is considered a beta with women does not mean that there necessarily beta with other parts of life and this is where guys who are good with women need to be careful cause depending on the girls market value she prbly has one or two crazy AF whitenights or beta friend zoned and pissed off males in her past or even currently lurking. From what I can tell these are the guys who after prolonged time become anti women and begin to have a great anger and rage over the dating game itself and then they become dejected which turns into isolation- then rage- then outburst. This is very common among guys and very dangerous for other guys and women alike. These are the guys who rape, beat and murder women. My psychotic friend is now in prison serving 4 years . Careful red pill dudes as with women comes danger and out of control behaviour.
rajputnomad 6y ago
This is nature’s way of saying - “If you don’t man the fuck up, then the other men will fuck you up.”
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plainposter 6y ago
either way just man up bro
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DrBarnabyJonesJr 6y ago
There's nothing alpha about putting yourself in harms way for some pussy. A recent plate was telling me about her jealous baby daddy and how he'd potentially try and fight or shoot me if he were to become privy to our sexual encounters. I soft nexted her and went on with my life. I'm more than capable of defending myself, but I have more than enough pussy on deck that doesn't come with the baggage and potential violence.
plainposter 6y ago
that's a dangerous bitch right there. she's like.. fantasizing about the amount of drama she could create by "accidentally" letting her psychotic bf know about her cheating on him... holy fuck these hoes are insane..
Merwebb 6y ago
Best fight is the one you avoid.
BobbyPeru 6y ago
This reminds me of the time I picked up a chick and went back to her place. We were hanging out and everything was good, and all of a sudden she starts telling me about how her ex-boyfriend likes to break in the door from time to time.
Long story short, I ended up setting up a transition to leave about an hour later. Getting Some pussy isn't worth some crazy fucker breaking in the door with a gun or baseball bat.
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Some wisdom right there. Lets also inject some dangerous rule-breaking morality too and say you make a double good move because smashing some poor cuck that doesn't understand why his life is a disaster really doesn't help anybody.
Those are our (albeit misguided) brothers and sisters out there, fam.
Basic bitches love to watch people fight over them and its a spectator sport of malice that generally is just a disservice to men 99% of the time it happens.
CapitanJuanEsparro 6y ago
yeah, even if you dont have any pussy besides her, its not worth it man your life is priceless, once you die its game over. i prefer to be a little coward sometimes but still alive instead of being a machoman in a casket
RedPilledGodEmperor 6y ago
Exactly. Even in the case that you aren't getting much pussy at all, it's not worth the hassle of dealing with a chick who has someone like that.
I went through this myself when I was fucking this chick. Her ex-boyfriend found her snapchat and ended up sending threatening messages. Even though I really wasn't getting much or any pussy, I soft-nexted her. Not worth the hassle of a potential loose cannon coming after you, no matter how much or how little you get it in.
jewishsupremacist88 6y ago
girls like that LOVE to see dudes fight over them. they aint worth it
WalterEArmstrong 6y ago
It's a game. Years ago Eric Berne named it "Let's You and Him Fight."
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
This is the right move.
She wasn't telling you this abstractly for no reason. This was her way of telling you "cross me and I'll get him to fuck you up".
You did well to move on.
justshitposterthings 6y ago
It was also a way for her to show she was 'valuable.' "I'm so desirable men will do violence for me."
Pass.
marplaneit 6y ago
lol Years a go, when I broke with my GF, I was trying to plate her. She was having none of it. I was going to go the same college party as her, and she texted me a few hours before : "If you try being pushy with me Mr Super beta white knight oneites male friend of mind is gonna take care of you."
Looking back he was lanky dude with not much going for him, I would have probably beated the living hell out of him, but meh the risk of being jumped or possible law suits weren't worth it.
Went to the party, made out with another girl and went home with her.
Oh my god she was furious. Woke up to like 20 messages telling me how a piece of shit I am.
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I agree, this was a not particularly veiled threat.
I'm running under the assumption that every attractive female has a constellation of orbiters, ex's, and guys she's just dating. I also have a rocking apartment with a comfortable bed. I don't have any desire to go to their place other than picking them up. It seems not only safer that way, but it keeps them in my frame.
If I could ask, what are your thoughts on this policy?
DrBarnabyJonesJr 6y ago
I often wrestle with the 'my place vs. her place' issue. It depends on the particular woman I'm dealing with, her living situation, and the limited knowledge I may have of who else she's dealing with. I'm not particularly fond of people knowing where I live with the exception of a couple of close friends, my brother (who's my roommate) and my parents. A woman knowing where I live presents an issue should things go south and she unveils some sort of mental instability, has a jealous boyfriend, white knight savior, etc. My home is my place of solitude and refuge and I prefer to keep it that way. I do tend to agree that it's the safest bet due to the fact that it's your domain and if you have an ounce of sense, it's properly secured. I have surveillance camera's, am licensed, armed, and live in a state with Castle doctrine should things get a little sticky. I'd rather not go that route if at all possible. I guess it boils down to personal preference. Keep yourself safe at all costs though.
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Good stuff.
I, too, am armed, and live in a state with reasonable laws, not just in terms of protecting ourselves but also none of that positive consent nonsense.
I'm also a pretty good talker. We've all heard the stories of a one night stand where the guy taped a "bro, I didn't know she had a boyfriend" note to the bottom of the Playstation controller. When it's your place, it's like......I didn't ask questions, she came home with me so I assumed she wasn't taken (of course I assume all are on some level taken).
Still.......there was a murder in my apartment complex, and I live in a really nice neighborhood. I heard the shots that ended that young mans life (I posted that on Facebook, linking to the local paper's website, and was basically banned for a month). The reason for the murder (people are very rarely gunned down in cold blood for nothing) has not been disclosed. 80% it was sex or drugs.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Seems like a good plan. Add recording equipment if you do this a lot.
dickbuttspleasure 6y ago
I imagine why you say recording equipment, its mostly to protect against false rape accusations
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Bingo, and it's one of the things that convinced me that The Red Pill isn't nearly as misogynistic as has been claimed.
I mean.....the only logical conclusion of the focus on recording equipment is that one is acting ethically and consensually.
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Why the soft next? I would hard next at that point
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Troll_Name 6y ago
She'll cry rape to him.
Worldstar Hiphop is full of guys committing attempted murder over an accusation made by his crush/ex.
TheYekke 6y ago
Our Cambodia bound red pill dude will soon also find out that in certain bars the girls are off limits and there will be just 1 warning. Something along the lines of “we have decided that you are no longer allowed to frequent this establishment”
Guys, the US is the only non-tribal country. Everywhere else you find stringers to give you the down low on a club/bar. Ignore their advice at your peril
Xajad 6y ago
Not to sound like a movie, but that is the case in Miami. I was about to talk to a female and was stopped by native bro who pointed out all her grimey cartel bodyguards.
That sh_t will get you disappeared.
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redpillbanana 6y ago
Imagine someone comes and takes your fish.
If you feel that there are plenty of fish in the sea and that they are easy to catch then you'll think it's no big deal. You might feel mildly irritated, or if it is your hungry friend who took the fish, you might even give it to him gladly.
OTOH if catching fish is extremely difficult for you, or even worse, you feel like there's only one fish in the ocean that's suitable for you, then you'll probably become violent towards the person who takes your fish even if he is your friend.
Yet another reason why abundance mentality is so important.
SirKolbath 6y ago
That may be the best analog ever drawn to explain abundance mentality. Well done.
Sir_Distic 6y ago
Exactly. When I was at my most beta I honestly and truly believed that the women I was attracted to were mine. If I flirted with a woman and she flirted back I was obsessed over her. If I saw another guy flirting with her I'd get pissed. Dark fantasies about hurting him, in my mind. I once lost a job because I told a guy who was interested in this girl I talked to at work that she was my girlfriend. Word got back to her, then to her boss and I was gone.
100% deserved too. I was a jealous, stalker-ish, beta. Don't be like I used to be.
She's not yours, it's just your turn.
plainposter 6y ago
thankfully you smartened up. good on you mate.
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If you have abundance mentality and there's plenty of fish in the sea, then why would you go and try to steal girlfriends/wives from other men, and then complain when they get angry? I mean, there's other fish in the sea, right? You don't have to steal fish from other men, right? Wrong.
Abundance mentality in this case revolves around you being able to leverage your looks and status to steal women from other inferior men, fuck them, and then dump them. They are simply not able to compete, so abundance mentality is delusional thinking for genetically inferior males, because there is no abundance. They either have to bow out, go home and cry while jerking off, or use "violence mentality" to get you to back off.
Merwebb 6y ago
So there is plenty of catched fish?
I agree with both of ya, fish are aplenty in the sea, and if you count the already catched ones, well, there is more
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Well if you behave like a feral chimp trying to bang everyone's girlfriends then you should expect that some of those guys will come after you.
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The danger of beta guys is that they are without any sex or girls and they are basically insane. Look at most of the assholes that shot up movie theaters and all that. They are beta losers with no game . The irony of it is they think they are the good guys, but they aren't. They are the assholes. We are the ones just facing reality so we aren't prone to the violent emotional reactions.
LampshadeThis 6y ago
Beta Guys and Beta Chicks, the formal name for Dicks and Cunts of mankind
Frenetic_Zetetic 6y ago
Beta guys are the most dangerous, since they have nothing to lose...because they have nothing to begin with.
Wax on, wax off.
Kryptic_Knight 6y ago
Firstly, being red pill just means bettering oneself, not just being a pussy hog and seeing how many women you can bed. Women are a bi product of evolving into a red pill...putting yourself in harms way is the complete opposite of the game.
Yes, sometimes they'll be an AMOG or a white knight, but your job is to exude excellence, not aggro every meathead in sight. There's a certain finesse that comes with mastering the red...
heyimjason 6y ago
How are these guys betas? Sounds like they had you dominated in both strength and authority. You got owned and you just let it happen. When you watch something like that on the nature channels, they're not calling the victims or the followers the alphas.
FindTheBus 6y ago
There's always more women out there but if another dude tries to take one that I'm with, that's a personal affront to ME. That's treating me like a bitch. I don't care about the girl, same way as someone in prison doesn't care about their slop on a tray if someone tries to take it- you still fuck them up, or you're a bitch.
basebool 6y ago
No pussy is worth any potential harm on you.
heyimjason 6y ago
That depends on the situation. If your woman is in danger, sure it's worth fighting to help her. If she's just fooling around with other dudes, then no, just walk away and be done with her.
ineedabetterme 6y ago
Willing to kill a man and ruin your life over a woman who isn't being exclusive to you doesn't seem alpha to me.
askmrcia 6y ago
It may not be alpha but I won't call it beta either. These guys still banged these women for an extensive amount of time sooooo yea.
MuhTriggersGuise 6y ago
55 year old fat balding "yes dear" men have been banging their wives for decades. It doesn't make them alpha.
heyimjason 6y ago
It doesn't seem intelligent, however, it is, by definition, and in nature, completely alpha.
I'm not sure if you just don't get the literal meaning of the word, or if you're using "alpha" as some loose slang, or what... but watch any nature video and that's all they ever talk about is the alphas kicking ass and taking what's theirs. It's not cool, and it's not fair, but that's how the "alpha" thing works.
Patriarchysaurus 6y ago
I've heard David Attenborough mention males fighting to the death over the right to mate like a million times.
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heyimjason 6y ago
You seem to forget that humans are just mammals and part of the animal kingdom. The same rules apply - even the shitty ones. Chicks looking to get laid are often going to go for the more aggressive alpha types. I mean... you should have learned that just from attending high school, if not middle school. If you don't think size matters, I'd like to hear you explain why there aren't short, fat male strippers. Women will watch something like Magic Mike and get moister than an oyster. That's just biology and hundreds of thousands of years of evolution saying "If you need to fuck (reproduce), fuck him because he can protect you and your offspring). Shit, look at any dating site and see how every other girl wants a guy who's over 6' tall.
That's why it's hard to feel sorry for girls who keep fucking idiots and wonder why they always get dumped or cheated on. Smart women that are worth the time and who are actually looking for relationships are generally intelligent enough to look for other traits, such as mental stability and good personalities.
Having "mentality," as you put it, and not being as aggressive is exactly what stops one from being defined as "alpha," and you know, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's not an insult or a bad thing to not be considered an alpha. Few people are, and a good chunk of them are assholes. This is common knowledge.
vegandawg 6y ago
Nah man the lion that chose not to engage in violence is the alpha. Alpha lions keep their cool and let other males try to mate with their females. They know that if they react and turn potential suitors into a gorey mess then they lose power and the female is more likely to leave them.
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heyimjason 6y ago
That is exactly how it doesn't work......
livinlavidal0ca 6y ago
That was obviously sarcasm, brainiac
heyimjason 6y ago
Wasn't so obvious, guy. Still doubt it was sarcasm.
vegandawg 6y ago
It was obvious unless you're autistic.
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Work-Hustle-Kill 6y ago
Alright. And how can we deal with these kinds of situations? What can we do to prevent and/or eliminate such threats?
Cross_De_Lena 6y ago
I don't think you can really prevent this. Best thing you can do is to anticipate that something like that could happen and act accordingly.
I was caught off guard the first time.
Work-Hustle-Kill 6y ago
We live and we learn. Maybe with experience we'll be more prepared to deal with these kind of situations.
Metalageddon 6y ago
In my experience just don't kiss and tell, and do the after care. That covers 80% of the shit. (Which happens after a girl feels used for whatever reason)
Aside from that, being aware of your surroundings and being willing to walk instead of get into a physical fight are important.
Look, just because I can make the guy bite the curb doesn't mean I should. It's rarely worth it.
Also note, a girl that wants you enough will shut down her white knights and orbiters for you. They often won't dare to cross her. Add this to your vetting. Really useful.
Work-Hustle-Kill 6y ago
Those two last paragraphs were really helpful. Thank you very much for sharing your insight.
Reformed65 6y ago
That's right, there are desperate and thirsty men who have nothing to lose.
Adding to OP's post, I find that some men- in attempt to get panties wet- will get more aggressive when there's a girl in the picture.
Cross_De_Lena 6y ago
Yes. Thanks. I forgot to add that:
*Easiest way to identify those guys is by observating how their behaviour changes when around girl they like.
maplemaximus 6y ago
Where do these lunatic beta's come from? Who is manufacturing these dudes? What happened to looking at your damn self? I was once interested in a girl and she wanted all of these other guys. I could have tried to game her but I didn't and let my opportunities slip. My first thought was not to swing at these guys or do some petty shit.
The amount of theatrical insanity in some of these blue pilled guys is pure female-esque.
dr_warlock 6y ago
He gave her a kiss and thought he was in a relationship, how cute.
bl1871 6y ago
Sounds like you were trying to be a tough guy and got whooped, and are now bitching some victim menality shit, read; I was bending over in front of him all night inticing him we went back to his place and I got fucked it just happened, I grabbed his hand and he was hitting me in the face see any similarities, Buck up
odileLee 6y ago
Don't go out with crazy. Sane women excist.
GunsGermsAndSteel 6y ago
It's not even necessary for there to be a female in the story. I've had betas fuck me over at work just because they were jealous that I did well with customers, made more money, had a nice motorcycle, or whatever.
This one guy in particular, I tried a couple times to talk to him about it and work it out. But you can't "talk" to a guy like that. They're like cats. You don't rationalize with a cat. The cat will just sit there staring at you, then shit in your shoe while you're away.
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Doom_and-Gloom 6y ago
Cool story, bro. I'd make a joke about it needing more dragons and shit, but honestly, that wouldn't make it any less plausible.
Cross_De_Lena 6y ago
I'm Cross De Lena. Not Cross RR Lena.
Koryphae_ 6y ago
It's a pretty shitty book tbh. Puzo's worst.
Cross_De_Lena 6y ago
I think it was better than Omerta.
NavyBlueCrow 6y ago
I fucking hate this to. Once a guy wanted to fight me at the toilet because I was apparently staring at his gf. Yes, I was doing that, I was looking at them while thinking why an average girls are with guys who looks like redneck and gopnik mix.
It's stupid because it's never worth it. If you try to fight then a) you can got hurt b) you will be thrown out from the place c) you will boost the cunt ego because she will think that "boys are fighting over her" fucking joke
Bear-With-Bit 6y ago
Good stuff.
The strict no mate-guarding policy is one of the best rules I've learned from trp. When you're out with your plate in group settings, don't hover. Let her be on her own for half if not most of the time.
Betas mate-guard to the point of self sacrifice. Don't be like that.
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CaffineAddictNYC 6y ago
Dude you need to up your writing skills.
reddttt 6y ago
I kept seeing other men here using TRP amoralness in regards to sexual strategy while dealing with the topic of fucking or not a woman who's supposedly "with" another man.. Sure, you can and it will be fun as hell but be prepared to the possibility of meeting a furious estrogen fueled chaotic mind of a beta who's going to have a personal vendetta against you
scriptkiddie1337 6y ago
And all the gainz, mma training, and being alpha af won't stop a bullet, baseball bat, or a car being driven at you
pras 6y ago
Isn't that Nature?
Isn't the Red Pill a COMPLETE CONTRAVENTION of nature and Subverting Nature by men help men (ha ha hahahahahahhahahaha) how to succeed with women?